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om L Bomer means a lot of different
things to a lot of different people and
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the book is called logba om the fire and
the soul the mystical power of LBA om R
shim barai and the Z hakos RAB Danielle
gladin a pleasure to welcome welcome you
back to JM and the
am good morning how are you hasem doing
fine a happy early ler to
you likewise thanks for having me m
shabas it starts ler is
Sunday I think this is one of the thing
and this is of course uh o only to help
um remind people that people like
yourself have done a tremendous amount
of research that we're going to be
gaining from through this book I think
logba om is one of those days and topics
that the more I study it learn about it
and hear about it the more complicated
it gets I just I it is there's so much
to this day there is so much built in to
the day of L Bomer the type of
celebrating the type of inspiration
we're supposed to get from it the mix of
sadness and happiness for obvious
reasons because of what the OM
represents in general uh R gladstein do
you agree with me that log B is more
complicated than we think
well it's it's more profound Than People
realize it's more than just uh shooting
bows and arrows and uh joyous festivity
if I may say you know uh lagba om has
actually become the most uh the
celebrated day on the Jewish calendar
there is no event throughout the life
cycle of uh of yam toim that has more
participants you know that last year
a half a million Jews made their way to
meon unfortunately that is not available
uh this year but I'm I'm particularly
excited because there is another sadic
who has his yard side on the who uh the
is based upon and we're going to be
leaving Wednesday night to crack out to
be at the ra k for lag so you know if
you can't be at meron that's uh cocal is
a nice place to be but I say if you
can't be by either then by studying the
Torah of rabish sham it's like you're
virtually transposed to to meon and to
connect with his uh amazing Tyra and
sanctity and elevation so you'll be
spending shabus and
crao yes yes and the raama yard site is
a definitive we know his yard with her
shim there's a little bit of it's it's a
little bit more of a cloudy situation
with his yard site
correct exactly actually uh there's a
lot of uncertainty whether the in fact
passed away
on writes that we don't have any
authoritative source that passed away on
which adds to the mystery and Mystique
of the day where so many people are
flocking to the Kev and yet we're not
even certain that it's his yank right
pretty interesting and by the way I mean
I just I got to put this in because I've
been on this bandwagon for many many
decades already there's a benefit I mean
it's unfortunate and terrible the
circumstances of this year's LBA om and
mayron obviously because the Safety and
Security situation has called for for
basically no event or a very very very
limited event but the benefit is frankly
as we said last week on the air that we
know that when lock Bomer is on Sunday
there's a tremendous amount of shabas
that takes place on on Saturday on
shabis in order to prepare for what uh
you know is a tremendous movement of
hundreds of thousands of people right
after shabas up to mayone and at least
uh you know there's a silver lineing
that this year that's not going to
happen so I I never really understood
the whole M shabas Sunday thing because
I thought that you know there would be
more sensitivity to that but in in fact
this year because of the way the uh
security situation is that might be a
drop of a silver lining just want just
wanted to put that in there and uh you
know for whatever yeah for whatever it's
worth so to speak yeah I always thought
that the the Torah Giants would be much
more concerned about that um in term
just like the raban is concerned about
shabas when it comes to Y and that's why
those days are moved um but again it's a
something we discussed last week on the
air just an observation that I think is
an important one so where does this come
from we we know as you know as we were
taught in Yeshiva that LBA om is this
you know break in SP where either the
talum OFA actually stopped dying or or
they had you know they had all died by
then because you know there are many who
hold that L Bomer is the end of that
period and of course there are others
that feel that L Bomer is just a pause
in that terrible tragedy and that that
has to be acknowledged that there was a
day where that tragedy um you was was
not uh you know didn't happen so where
did this all come from is LBA om and its
popularity all an outgrowth of the
history that we know
of yes so even even that point that the
students of stopped passing away on also
is not mentioned in the gamar which is
also a great mystery all the gamar tells
us is that the students passed away
between p and the gamar makes no mention
that they stop dying at any point during
the days of s it's based on a tradition
we have from the go that thei sites so
the fact that the students stopped dying
a it's uh it's based that's a tradition
that's uh up to question exactly when
did that happen and and furthermore if
you think about it is that really cause
of Celebration if the reason they all if
the reason they stopped dying is because
they had all died that would be a pretty
unusual reason to celebrate imagine you
know we're all uh dancing and in great
festivity why because they all passed
away right so it it definitely requires
much further
analysis um there is really a beautiful
idea that elevates to a completely
different status namely you know we just
read in parar the par of all the we read
about
P Rus
but included in that discussion are the
days of the OM and one may wonder you
know what are the days of s doing a
discussion of the the days
of aren't they days of mour they're days
of mourning well you know they're in the
wrong para right but that that
demonstrates to us that fundamentally
the days of the are part of the cycle of
yam they could be viewed really as a
between and and they and they were in
said days then in the time of of they
were not and and uh even today then they
really retain their fundamental status
of yam it's just their overridden their
their they're it's cancelled to it's
nullified because of the mourning of the
students of RAB AKA right but
on when they didn't die on that day so
it's not that we're celebrating they
didn't die it's that the original status
of Y is able to shine forth it's able to
be restored really sense is a Biblical
yum spoken about
inar so that's important element of sort
of representing the entire sphere right
is that how we would put it yeah
representing the entire SPH right and
any day that would not be canceled or
nullified would have retained that
status but that day that did retain that
status was the day of lag om glad with
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so um you know what's unbelievable in
terms of and and really what you just
said might help us understand this
because it is elevated more when we
think of minor holidays PES Shen is
coming up this week and uh and you know
you think of shushan purm outside of yam
and you know days like that you know you
know there there's something there's a
slight ritual there's a a minig to do
something nice have some matah for
breakfast you know this coming Wednesday
things like that but but you may just
have explained that that as much as L
Bower we would think would be in that
category where it should be recognized
don't say t on that day you know that
type of thing but but there but there
because of how you just connected it
literally to a ora literally to the
holidays that we know are you know that
we are obligated by because it's in the
Torah I I feel like all that gives it a
certain elevation and then of course you
add the whole mysticism part of it the
whole repai part that the whole Raba
students you know again according to the
opinion uh you know stopped dying that
day the the the entire you know Heights
of spirituality Zohar kados etc etc that
one can reach and obviously the day has
become much bigger do you think that
that's a legitimate way of looking at it
because of the because of its source um
because of its source it has a a little
bit of a um a different element PES Shen
is I'm thinking about P Shan is not in
that list of holidays that you just went
through and that we read this past
shabas and you know and certainly
shushan puram isn't uh do do you think
that that might be a an approach that we
continue to need to explore definitely a
a foundational approach to understanding
lag you know you could think of it that
these days have this tremendous
power they are fueled by them being
mentioned in
the but like you know they're all
covered over and they have and they have
no way to express themselves but there's
this one little opening all these 49
days only have this one little opening
to burst burst forth their biblical
Tower and like all 49 days come bursting
forth like a geyser on the 33rd day of
the OM so you know it gives us a little
bit of an understanding for this
magnetic pull that people have t shim
and ton and enjoying lag om it's this
Supernatural force that has no way to
express itself other than this little p
this little opening on the 33rd day of
the Omar and that's all and and again
the meron connection is all because of
rip shim this assumption or this
tradition that it's his yard site and
and and and we use that opportunity to
use that location to enhance the day
yeah if I may if I may you know even
aside from the element of it being Rim's
y side or if it's right the in general
there there's a certain mystique and
mystical element
of because it the 33rd day of the the
number 33 is a very mystical number
there's an idea that there are
32 regular Elementary pathways of wisdom
in the T and that is reflected in the
opening of barus when Hashem creates the
world you'll find the word eloim 32
times and that represents the
32 foundational Pathways of T but the
number 33 represents the secrets of the
T the hidden light of the T even the
33rd word of bous is
God saw the light that it was good that
represents the hidden light of the Tyra
so the 33rd day of
the is deeply rooted in the secrets of
the Tyra the mysticism of the Tyra the
the cabalistic wisdom and that was
something that brought to the world so
even aside from it being Rim's yard site
it's also the day that begins the
preparation for cabal for the more
Sublime elements of the T so in other
words the first 32 days we prepare for
the foundational elements of the T the
last 17 days beginning we prepare for
the secrets of the this is alluded to in
the words
La L days the first 32 days of the those
32 days we have to acquire a la a heart
a mind and now we're ready for T 17 days
17 days to tap in into on whatever level
one is able to even just to have a
little bit of a taste or flavor of the
secrets of Tyra and that's another
important element of L and there's a um
there's a two-word phrase that's
inserted every night when one does the
entire ritual the entire service of
counting of the Omare what is the uh
what is what are the two words on L
don't mean to put you on the spot I'm
trying to think yeah so that's also a
very beautiful point
uh the two words that we add on
referring to the sair the the mystical
emanation of the day is the category
counting the category counting I would
say right Shah is 33 well that's on the
33rd day and and you know what's amazing
is that the word hide which maybe could
be uh literally translated as Splendor
comes from the root h of gratitude and
this is is very significant because you
know from a Torah standpoint how what
how do you understand why the students
of Raba stopped dying on why that day
why the 33rd day was there something
about that day was the water healthier
that day was the air cleaner that day
what was it about that day that the
plague stopped you know from a Tor
standpoint how do we Define life what's
what's the meaning of life DAV tells us
repeatedly
the dead can't
praise there are a lot of things dead
people can't do they can't listen to
your program either you know they can't
they can't they can't go golfing they
can't bowling can't go to school they
can't go to school they can't put on
fill they can't learn tile why does D
say they can't thank you or we say every
morning God bet what benefit would you
have in my
demise will the earth thank you as if to
say that if I go I can't thank you
anymore yeah I can't do anything can't
tie my shoelaces can't brush my teeth
but from here we see that thanking
Hashem is not something that we do when
we're alive it's the very definition of
life from a Torah standpoint we
say the living thank you what do you
mean the living could do everything no
everything we do is only what we do but
thanking Hashem is the very definition
of life in fact the word is an
acronym stands for someone who is healed
from a sickness yam someone who crosses
the sea someone who's out of
jail and the me stands for the one who
travels through a midbar and this
represents the four people who have to
show gratitude to Hashem gratitude is
the very definition of life
is gratitude gratitude the epitome of
gratitude the Pinnacle of gratitude the
crescendo gratitude on this 33rd day
which epitomizes gratitude which is the
very definition of life that's when the
students of rabika stopped dying that
was their Merit to stop dying so it's a
great lesson that for all of us to apply
that the more we devote ourselves and
focus on thanking Hashem the more that
will bring us and our families and K
life that is the greatest Merit for life
this is what saved the students of RAB
AKA this is the explanation of rabf
Angel who by the way was one of the last
in and he gave
thisa on in the of the in honor of the r
and when did he do that how long
ago about a 100 years ago
and now you'll be back a hundred years
later probably repeating that V I bet I
have yeah I I would have a feeling ler
is written by by danil gladin LBA the
fire and the Soul check it out brand new
from Arts girl it is amazing when you
think about it I mean look it's not
unusual in our tradition that somebody
could have this type of you know effect
on clol effect on the Jewish people for
you know such a long period of time but
still when you think about it you know
it's almost 2,000 years from shim barai
and his work and his um and his uh you
know inspiration whether it's his yard
side or not you know has had a profound
effect on the tradition of Claus and I'm
assuming I have to assume this that in
the last 100 200 300 years as you know
as an attraction ofus spirituality
mysticism more popularity popularity for
theor you know I have to assume that
this has only increased in recent in
recent centuries would I be right about
that absolutely you know many are not
familiar the
Z was only found um say 500 years ago it
it was not the rein Rashi and Tas did
not never saw the Z right they didn't
have the Z so certainly the revelation
of the is of more recent history and the
interest in rim has only has exploded in
an hour in our very times I mean I'm
sure you remember 30 40 years ago people
would go to merron but it wasn't even a
tenth of what it what it is today right
no question about that all right a
couple of them in hug him wh why do we
associate up Sharon those families that
have a tradition not to cut a boy's hair
for the first three years of his life
why do we associate
Mayon with the up Sharon ceremony
yeah there there there is a report by R
vital who he saw that his re ARA went up
with his family onba to to perform that
ritual but that that's the entire basis
right uh you know so for those who have
that custom it's based on that report
ofal what himself did and a lot of
people go out of their way from around
the world to literally be like B that
day to do that and that's you know again
it's developed as a tradition over all
these years and finally or by gladstein
I mean I don't know which one you want
to address first but please address both
of them tell us about bows and arrows
and tell us about
bonfires
okay the uh the bows and arrows are
associated with the fact that shim's
level of righteousness was so great that
uh there was no there was no rainbow
that uh appeared in his time you know
the rainbow the rainbow represents the
treaty that God made that when uh when
people sin and it angers Hashem Hashem
has to recall the treaty he made not to
destroy the world
so was uh elevated his whole generation
that that Covenant was not even needed
because Hashem would never come to that
point so upon his demise is so to speak
you know it's the return It's the Return
of the rainbow now now we need the
rainbow again now we need that bow that
bow again to to symbolize that uh God
will will not destroy the world in terms
of the bonfire there's a lot of
controversy about that oh I'm glad
you're acknowledging that and I'm sure a
lot of people listen to I'm glad you're
acknowledging that
good I'm sorry what I think there are a
lot of people listening who are glad
that you're acknowledging that there's
some controversy around it
yeah first the question is you know
where does this come from right is there
any uh we know that it it's made we know
that they light one but the source of it
is somewhat unclear there is a
collection of letters by the banura
where he writes that when he visited is
and he went
on well well on what many say is which
is he saw great fires lit by rebi shin
and the question is which Reish Shin is
that now that's going to depend on what
date the B was referring to so many
would like to say that he's referring
to and the rein that he's referring to
as
rabim the truth is in the critical
editions of the writings of the banura
it does not say it says and the rebish
shin would then be Shi and not
re um so that's somewhat of a
controversy but you know there's a
concept in Judaism
that that when the Jewish people
practice
something that itself gives it
credibility that itself gives it h
Holiness and meaning so if this is
something that's practiced for hundreds
of years there must be uh there must be
basis for it and I humbly suggest um as
one of the reasons in this book that uh
based on another beautiful idea
teaches quoting the Z that when the
Jewish people left Egypt they left on
the 15th day of
Nissan and on that day they they uh
received their
Brisa and the Z says something fantastic
he says that at the time that a person
has a Brisa that's when the Jewish Soul
enters their body but it takes the soul
33 days for it to acclimate and get
comfortable and you know find the
the right position you know it's like
when you get onto an airplane you sort
of have to you know wiggle Shuffle
around until you find that right spot it
takes the soul 33 days until it
acclimates into the body and the the Z
says that the souls of the Jewish people
were fully acclimated on on the 33rd day
of the and says that's in his opinion
the reason for the celebration of it's
the day the joy of the Jewish Soul fully
acclimating into one's body and now we
understand how it's a day that we could
begin to probe some of the secrets of
the Tyra of course we need we need full
full power of our soul to be able to
understand it so the soul in the tanak
is referred to as a great
fire man's soul is like a burning fire
it's a a force of great spiritual energy
so the bonfires of lag represent that on
this day the soul is fully acclimated
into our systems and it's able to so to
speak uh be ignited in Holy Fire and uh
on this day we we try to whatever on
whatever level we can to connect with
the tah
of who makes an amazing prediction he
says that in the end of
days the people are destined to taste
from the Tree of Life what's the tree of
lifeim says
that's he says when we do
that we will be redeemed in great mercy
so certainly we're not on the level to
to be expert in this great discipline
but every Jew can
access of
the of
there are many s that we can access and
can understand that bring down for us
teachings of the zadash and making them
available and accessible to us so and
even if we just taste that wisdom just a
bit it will help bring the Gula uh ever
closer pretty amazing L Bomer is is a
fascinating day everybody it really is
no matter what angle you're coming from
it is a fascinating day and one
certainly of significance in Jewish
history to say the least uh and uh
everyone's got their own um uh benefit
from the day everybody gains from the
day in different ways and by the way we
we explored a lot about by gladin book
but I'm letting you know there's plenty
more plenty more uh he talks about the
uh uh the um uh meron in general and the
historic Revelations there and he talks
about Bara and of course that whole
story and R shim's inspiration in that
entire episode and so much more so it's
really a compr apprehensive look at LBA
om from so many different angles and of
course we are highly recommending it LBA
om the fire and the soul the mystical
power of
L and the zel gladin is the author it's
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