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Welcome to Behind the Bea. Super excited
for our newest episode. A great
conversation with the founder of United
Hotsella, Ellie Beer, about leadership,
about life, about lifestyle, about his
upbringing, and much more. But first,
Moscow, I'm excited to be with you and
learn more about your life and your
lifestyle.
>> Well, you I'm an open book. You could
ask whatever I want.
>> Okay. Tell me about your running. My
running. Are you still running these
days?
>> I am still running these days. I'm
actually training for a half marathon,
the Miami Half Marathon
>> with Kai Lifeline.
>> And uh you know, it's interesting
because I've been running really early
in the morning. Specifically, Sunday
mornings are the long run. So, I did 10
miles this last Sunday. And it means
getting out really early in the morning.
With sunrise here now, not until mid7s.
You're really running in the dark by
yourself for a long time. No, it
actually I want you to know it's it's
amazingly hypnotic and very
introspective experience because it's
you in the road in
>> you run with other people or just by
yourself?
>> No, on the long runs I only run by
myself.
>> By yourself.
>> And uh and you're out there listening to
anything?
>> No headphones. Me. Me and mother nature.
>> Stop it.
>> Yes.
>> How long does a 10mi run take?
>> Uh hour 35.
>> Hour 35. So you spend an hour 35 by
yourself in your head.
>> Yeah. And it's amazing. It's amazing. I
recommend it for listening. No music, no
podcast, nothing.
>> There are two sounds that you hear, the
sound of your feet and the sound of your
breathing. And it puts you into this
trance, especially that early in the
morning because you can't even see
anything. It's pitch black.
>> And it puts you into this trance that is
it's amazing. I do my best thinking.
>> Will you show your root or you don't
want anyone to see your cast?
>> Are you running the circle?
>> No. No, no, no. I need 400 people seeing
me. No. I uh I get off the circle and
but each rout's a little bit different
and I you know you try to mix it up
because you don't want it to be
monotonous. Okay.
>> Um and but it's amazing and I love it
and I look forward to it and you know
this Sunday
>> I want to be you in my life. No, you
don't.
>> I've tried I've tried so many times to
run. I find it miserable, boring. What
you described as amazing. All you hear
is the sound of your feet and the sound
of your breath are what makes it
miserable. But
>> I could play tennis to the point that
I'm passing out and dying on a point,
>> but but the same amount like one minute
into running, I'm like, "Okay, that's
enough. I'm good."
>> So, I'll tell you what what I love about
it and and maybe we could pivot to this
conversation, but there's only one
person you're competing against when
you're running, right?
>> And that is yourself. From the second I
step out of my house until the second I
get back to my house, it is a constant
battle between my body and my mind. And
to me, there's something very special
about that experience. I think it builds
up certain muscles within willpower,
self-control, tolerance, and that to me
is what it's all about.
>> But are you miserable the whole time and
doing it nonetheless? Or you actually
get to this runner high and I'm enjoying
it and the endorphins and I don't ever
want it to stop.
>> No. No. So, first of all, anyone who
tells you that's lying in an hour and 35
minutes that I'm running, it
vacasillates. It waves. There are times,
there are miles where I feel like I'm
gliding and I could just go on forever.
And then there are miles where I'm like,
"What in the world was I thinking? Get
me home. I want my coffee. I want my
bagel as soon as possible. And um I
think that's part of the fun of it also
is it it you know keeps the challenge
going.
>> Do you take sips? Do you drink?
>> Um so once I cross a certain time period
that I'm out there to keep sugar levels
up, stuff like that. Yeah. I'm I'm
eating a little bit. I'm drinking a
little bit just to
>> Do you pause or you keep running through
the eating and drinking?
>> Keep running. You don't pause.
>> Keep reading while you're eating and
drinking.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
>> In fact, it could be one of my children
was supposed to pick up some things for
me to use while I was running this week
and they didn't and I had to pull an
audible pretty early in the morning.
>> Um, but uh, yeah, that's part of the fun
of it. I
>> How does your family feel about it?
Like, are they sick and tired of hearing
about it or do they miss you the time
you spend on it or they're proud of you?
>> Unlike I know you think I don't talk
about it all the time. I actually
haven't mentioned it to you at all that
I'm running.
>> Um, my family's come around. I would say
at the beginning they thought it was a
little bit absurd but I think they
realize it it has a massive
psychological impact on me. It relaxes
me. The endorphins whatever
psychologically and you know
scientifically is happening in my body.
It definitely makes me a better person.
I think my family realizes so much so
every now and then they'll say why don't
you go for a run and you'll come back
when you're more relaxed.
>> Have you been able to recruit any of
them to run with you? Do you take your
children with you on a run or do you
want to keep things separation church?
But I do on shorter runs I do run with
people in the community. Some people may
have seen us out there and that's fun
because when you're going short
distances and you know Friday afternoons
we go out there we're sharing different
Torah on the para and it's like a fun
experience and and you'll pick up people
along the way. So you might not have
realized that one of your other friends
is out in a run and you'll pass them and
you'll pick them up and you know you
could have this week we had five guys
going out there. It was a lot of fun.
And does your sleep the night before
impact the quality are like your
nutrition, your sleep. Are you at that
level that you're monitoring now and
watching and training like the right
sneakers, coaching, the right steps?
>> First of all, 100%. Once you get past a
certain mileage, it takes over your
thinking because you're either preparing
for a run, you're compensating post a
run, you're making sure you're getting
calories in, carbs in, protein in. And
so, yeah, you think about it a lot, but
I've learned I don't share it with you.
I don't share it with my family cuz I
know I know how you feel about runners
who share it, but I do my thing.
>> No, I I tell you the truth, the biggest
issue I have is envy. Like I I wish
because
>> it cost you, you know, the shoes, but
generally you could be anywhere,
anytime, and you just put on a pair of
sneakers and you're exercising. You
don't need a gym membership and you
don't need someone to play against and
you don't need equipment for it for the
most part,
>> right?
>> So I I wish I wish I was in that what
you're describing clearing the
>> hang. In fact, I actually think, you
know, let's take I actually think you
lost a bet at some point that required
me. I don't think I made it as far as I
was supposed to, but I did. Um, you
know, would be amazing for your running
for recovery afterwards.
>> Yeah. Nice bath.
>> Ice bath. Took an ice plunge afterwards.
The recovery.
>> I should I'm sure that's just what your
wife would want is after I come back
from my 10 mile run to go into your
bathroom and use your ice bath.
>> No, no, I didn't say you should use it
at my house. What would be great for you
would be and No, but I really I wish I I
wish I were into that. I've tried. There
are things in my life I've tried. I went
from what people call coffee, but which
is a milkshake to black coffee. And I'm
proud of that. Worked my way off of the
milkshake. Um, black coffee like a real
man all the time. Never concerned about
being flakes. Never worried about
cautious where I am. Never needing my
creamer on the road. And I've tried.
There's certain things I've tried. I've
tried the running.
>> But what's that thing? So for me,
running is that thing when I need to
blow off energy, when I need to do some
thinking, when I need to de-stress
myself, running is my thing. Yeah. What
is we all know the ice bath. Other than
the ice bath, what's your thing, Rabbi
Goldberg, when you're having that day
and you're like, I just need to blow off
some steam right now. Is it a book? Is
it learning? Is it tennis? Is it golf?
What is it?
>> You know, [laughter]
first of all, I like I try to go for a
walk every day. We live in paradise,
although it's frigidly cold. I think
it's in the 60s. It's very cold. I just
had to take off. Yeah. Um and and we
live also in paradise that we're right
next to this beautiful lake with all
kinds of animal life around it. And so I
made a commitment to myself and for the
most part I've kept it that in the
middle of the day every day to try to
find a way to just go for a walk around
the lake. It is far from exercise. It
doesn't register as running or jogging.
It doesn't get up my heart rate. I don't
change into other clothing for it. But
in this weather in the summer it's a
little hot a little harder. But now just
just to go for a walk, like you said,
just first of all the vitamin D, the
sunlight, um the natural air, being
outside, you know, hearing birds
chirping and and seeing iguanas across
in front of you and ducks and turtles
and frogs and it's all really
worthwhile. I I try to do a lot of
meetings that way. So if someone's
coming to meet with me about something
very confidential or private or
emotional, obviously I don't say, "Hey,
let's go for a walk." But let's say
someone's coming about something we're
working on, plan, I don't know, and and
I can say, "Let's go for a walk." So
we'll go for a walk around the lake. And
I find that fantastic. I I enjoy that a
lot.
>> You know, it's funny you said that cuz I
I was we first of all, we run into each
other a lot. But second of all, someone
asked me to meet last week and I said,
"Sure." You know, you can come meet to
my office. He goes, "No, when I meet
with our Goldberg, we take a walk." I
said, "Okay, that's apparently the new
standard meeting."
>> And I don't do it like I'm proitizing.
We should be walking. It's just
convenient. Like time passes. I'll tell
you the other thing also with it which I
found very interesting. Do you remember
that we had um Dr. Dr. Gabriel Fagen
came here
>> and um brought his expertise in a lot of
different areas, but one of them was uh
teaching fathers how to talk to their
sons about the conversation and the
talk. And one of the takeaways from
that, which at the time I had a lot of
daughters, I wasn't listening so
carefully, but now I have a son that I
actually used was that when you're ready
for the conversation, the talk or
sometimes what can be awkward talks,
sensitive talks, do it, he said, either
while driving a car or going for a walk.
when you have to sit opposite each other
and make eye contact and it's awkward
but if you're if you're walking together
you know every now and then you look
over but you're generally looking
outside when you're driving you know
person you're having a conversation and
that's what happens sometimes on these
walks also in these meetings which is
very valuable so I like to go for a walk
I'd like to listen
>> you recommend that for like marital
counseling in other words if a couple
was fighting would you say go for a walk
you're not staring contentiously at one
another this way you could
>> know each other if they're going to be
in the middle of a public place yelling
and screaming and calling each other's
names probably bad idea but if Actually,
sometimes being in public will help you
keep it together and communicate at the
decibel level that you should. I think
it could be fantastic
>> cuz I got that advice once when Ariel
and I were had had to make a difficult
decision at some point. We got advice
from someone. They said, "Go to a
restaurant and only have these
conversations in public, right?" They
said, "Because if you're in private, you
know, if you're in public, you're going
to behave yourselves. Everyone's going
to stay calm." And it was the best
advice ever.
>> For sure. Yeah. So, that I like to go
for the walk. I try to play tennis once
a week and don't always too many times
don't get to it. Um, but I like to
listen to comedy as I've said many times
in the car. Um, certain podcasts I find
very inspiring. It's funny what um, you
know, my family will see like you're
supposed to be relaxing right now, but
I'm listening to some productivity
podcast that's getting my wheels going
and my engines and my juices flowing.
That for me,
>> See, I've learned that about you. That
makes you different a little. Yeah, most
people would find that stressful.
>> Throw me weird if you want.
>> No, I just did. I actually think I just
called you weird because most people if
they're reading a productivity book, a
self-help book, it makes them a little
tense cuz it's pushing them out of their
comfort zone a little bit. You love it.
Like you go on vacation, you bring come
back with the six books that you read
and I'm like, "Buddy, did did you relax
for a second?"
>> That's relaxing cuz like during the year
I can't
>> obviously we love learning Torah. We
have our favorites forum. I don't want
anyone to think that we're out there
doing we're running reading productivity
books, listening to comedy and and
whatever else. I'll have an occasional
cigar, which I'll sure I'll get in
trouble with for mentioning here, but I
also find uh relaxing and healthier than
Diet Coke, which we [laughter]
a long-standing conversation and debate.
So, yeah, it's important to build that
in. Sleep, I'm working on sleep.
>> Got to get enough sleep.
>> You you and I have different sleep
patterns also, but yeah,
>> sleep is my that's my uh Achilles heel.
>> My my issue with sleep, I think
different than yours, is not going to
bed early enough. Meaning I I may wake
up, I may not wake up, but my issue is
not the quality of sleep once I go to
sleep. My issue is that, you know, I
wake up early and I'm I mean to go to
bed earlier than I used to, but it's
hard. I wake up at night and you're
finally done whatever you were doing
that day and and having the discipline
to say I need this minimum amount of
sleep, it's hard.
>> Yeah. It's not just discipline. I mean,
you and I have been in meetings that
have gone till 10, 10:30, 11 at night.
And I try to like it's hard to just come
home and go to sleep after that. Like
you need to unwind. Your brain is at a
million miles an hour. Yeah.
>> And it just takes time to decompress.
And then as you said, like you look at
the clock and it's late and then you're
getting up early the next morning.
>> Yeah. But some of it is discipline
because about those meetings, we know
people who be like, "No, it has to end
at this time or I'm not available then
or this is my schedule." And of course
there can be an exception once every few
weeks. But you know, if if 90% of the
time you're getting your minimum amount
of sleep, you're going to feel
different. You're going to produce
differently. You're going to serve
Hashem differently. And the studies
about correlating amount of sleep with
dementia later in life, they're they're
scary and startling. There's nothing to
help you go to sleep earlier than
reading those studies and those outcomes
and realizing the future.
>> Now, what would your advice be to
someone? Because we have a mutual friend
>> who documents everything. Yeah.
>> They have spreadsheets of everything
they are working on in life. And if it
can't be measured, what what's your
line?
>> What gets measured gets managed.
>> What gets measured get me managed. They
have a spreadsheet for everything. And
every day they're filling that out. And
if there's not, there's that personal
shame if I don't have the X. Is that
what you'd recommend to people? Someone
who's working on whether it's sleep or
exercise or learning, whatever. Is it an
Excel spreadsheet?
>> I've done it for periods for sure. I
have a bunch of them. Um, and it's
useful because you first of all,
forcing yourself to record it means
you're reporting it. And if you're
reporting it, you're much more aware of
it. And again, they're different
personalities. I'm a very competitive
person and I compete even with myself.
And I compete even when no one knows.
Like no one sees a spreadsheet. But like
the idea that I'm not going to check off
I did the ice path. I'm not going to
check off that I whatever it is, you
know, didn't bring my phone into dabing.
I have all these columns and all these
things and you see trends and you see
what worked and you see how you were
feeling and um I I think it's enormously
useful even if you keep it to yourself.
But if you create an accountability
partner where you say we're both going
to do it together and now you don't want
to be the one who didn't make it or who
didn't make it a bunch of days in a row
and it didn't
>> which is why I mean Judaism was so ahead
of its time. That's what a kusa is. You
know, if you're not getting up in the
morning, then some guy is going to be
sitting there by himself,
>> and you don't want to be that person.
>> I'm past the point of beating myself up
about the running. Meaning, I wish I I
wish I loved running, but I no longer
feel guilty or ashamed I don't. I could
have just lean into it and like that
doesn't work for me. So, now let me find
what does like so as long as it's some
form of an exercise or or or cardio or
doing something, you know? So, it's
true, by the way, for me about running.
It's true for other people about other
things is like we sometimes compete and
compare. We see what other people are
doing. We beat ourselves up. We feel
guilt or shame. And instead, you have to
lean into that's not me and it's not
going to be me. And stop wishing and
pretending it's going to be you and stop
waiting and longing for it to be you.
It's not you. So figure out who's you
instead. It's not an excuse to not do
anything. Just figure out what works for
you.
>> Yeah. That's what I always tell people.
They say, "Rabbi, I can't run like you."
I said, "Take a walk. Go for go for a
one mile run instead of a 10 mile run."
Like to me, there's a value in getting
out of the house. There's a value in
getting exercise. is there's a value in
getting the endorphins major mental
health you know benefits physical
benefits obviously and 100% you got to
figure out what's now is golf a sport
>> new topic is golf a sport
>> like would you consider golf physical
>> exercise you walk no I I don't I don't
consider physical exercise unless you
walk and there's two types of walking
you could decide you're walking all 18
holes so you're not taking a cart but
there's also even when you have a cart
and another person in it you could be
consciously making this effort that says
I'll meet you up at the green or I'm
walking to the next tea box or I'm you
could be incorporating significant
walking into it and by the end of the
day if you walked 18 holes or even if
you do the modified walking if you count
your steps to see you walked many miles.
So then it was a good use of time and
then even if you play poorly at least
you got a good walk out.
>> Do you remember we had a guest on who
was I think 80 90 and we asked him what
the secret to his longevity is. Do you
remember what he said? He said steps. He
always took the steps.
>> Yeah. He was over 100.
>> Over. Yeah. It was it was the couple.
>> The couple. That's right.
>> They're both over a hundred and they
always took the steps. Well, a secret of
longevity is also doing good things for
other people. And we are honored to have
spent some time with Ellie Beer, a good
friend of our community and ours. Uh the
extraordinary founder of United Hatsah
doing amazing work in Israel and beyond.
He's been on many podcasts. You've heard
a lot of conversations with him, but
this one was different. We went
somewhere different with him and that's
I think evidenced by the fact that he
kept saying that's a great question or
I've never been asked that before. So,
we hope you enjoy this conversation as
much as we did. Without any further ado,
the great Ellie Beer. We are excited to
go behind the beam again with our dear
friend Ellie Beer, the founder and
president of United Hatsah. Hat Salah
depending who you're talking to Salah
>> Hatah
>> that's a Syrian community.
>> Ah exactly. So we cover all of our bases
and grounds. Ellie, this is I don't
remember how many times you've been on
behind the beimo with us but you were
with us from the start when we really
began during Corona when we used to
stream live. I think you woke up in the
middle of the night in Israel. Yes,
>> you were wearing the orange vest in the
middle of the night, cup of coffee,
pajamas underneath, and we spoke to you,
of course,
>> after the miraculous recovery during
Corona
>> and uh and after October 7th, we also
spoke to you, and here we are again.
Grateful to be live in person to welcome
you back to Bocarone and Bocarone
Synagogue. So, thank you so much, Ellie.
>> It's it's incredible to be here. I'm
this is my 26th year being here. Not
every year, but 26 years ago and to see
the growth. Couldn't even recognize the
building. It's unbelievable the growth
of this community and the shul. It's
unbelievable. Really,
>> we got a lot going on. And I'll say not
only to you and I'll say not only
because people are watching, but what we
believe in the bottom of our hearts.
We're building all of this because it's
going to lift up and it's going to come
to Israel. We're going to get a great
spot right on the beach of Gaza,
Boeraton East. And uh we really we're
always pushing and encouraging aliyah
and we're we're thinking about and
making our way there every day. But for
now, Jews are making fun though.
>> Yeah.
>> Come to Gaza.
>> We're going to do a fundraiser in Gaza.
>> Exactly. No problem. You'll come to
>> behind the bea in Gaza.
>> Gaza. There you go.
>> Do it. We like we like the ring of
sadly. Phillis, what's the latest?
What's going on? Hatella, Israel, um
ceasefire. All but two of the bodies are
back. Um, and obviously those two are
still on our minds. We're not done until
everyone is home. But tell us the
feeling in Israel today, the ceasefire.
Have we turned the corner? What does it
mean for Hatsella in your work? How how
are things going?
>> Well, I just met Steve Woodco last
night, Thanksgiving. I mean, I don't
know when this is broadcast, but uh I
just met him and uh and I told him like
I was showing him live how Israel had to
attack last night in Rafa Rafa. And I
said, "This doesn't look like Hamas is
like giving up." And he said, "Yeah,
you're right." I mean, Americans realize
that this is not over yet. It was
amazing what was done getting the
hostages back. I think every Israeli,
every Jew in the world felt a relief
that our brothers and sisters who were
alive and the ones who are not alive,
almost everyone are back home. But we
still have a long way in front of us.
And we we see it in Lebanon now. It's
happening as we talk now in Lebanon. Um
my son was just serving in Lebanon and
he said, "Aba,
every building, every home has weapons.
They we destroyed a lot of them, but
still have a lot of buildings and a lot
of homes in Lebanon that are weapons
that are aimed towards Israel. Same
thing in Gaza. We have We still have a
big problem. Hamas is not giving up.
They want to hold weapons. They want to
rebuild their their power. And I I
really hope that American government,
President of the United States, realizes
that we not we're not done with the job.
>> So So can we talk about exhaustion for a
second? Because when you tell me that
and paint that type of a picture, um
it's exhausting for me and I've done
nothing for this war. All the more so
for the soldiers that we have that are
both battling PTSD and their family
lives and the interruption of their work
life. What's it like for Atala
volunteers? Right. You've now it's we're
we're almost two and a half years post
October 7th. Obviously for that that was
a a traumatic day for many of your
volunteers. Um what's the mindset of a
Salah volunteer who's now two and a half
years in they hear all this stuff. They
see that there's optimism but also a
bleak future. How do you keep people
motivated and optimistic despite all of
the challenges that we continue to face
two and a half years later?
>> Well, I I always tell people just go
learn history.
If you want to be, you know, if you want
to get depressed and see the situation
and say, "Oh, just see the history of
the Jewish people." We are, we're in the
strongest place ever in the Jewish
history. 3,000 years. Look at us today.
Boca Raton, New York, even with Mamani,
uh, Israel, Europe, we have a strong
presence. And we we we have to remember
one thing. And and this week, last week,
Ellie Zahira, who was the head of
intelligence of 1973 war, the Yumipa
war, died, passed away. Ellie Zer, I
love history. Ellie Zira
was a person who was in charge of all
intelligence of Israel in 1973
and he dismissed everything he had.
Every time they said, "Oh, the Egyptians
are getting organized for war. They will
never do it. We just had the 1967 war
and six days we wiped out everyone. We
conquered everything we wanted. We are
now in control. No one's going to ever
do it. And look what happened only a few
years later. Five, six years after 1967.
Boom. They almost wiped out Israel. Eler
passed away. Now the same thing happened
in October 7th. We had Arun Khaliva then
who was a head of intelligence who had
all the signs in the world but he
dismissed everything. We have to
remember that in Israel and the Jewish
community has to be strong all the time.
We can't relax. We can't say, "Okay,
we're taking a break now." And even
after a war of two and a half years, and
I tell my volunteers in Israel, we have
8,000 members. I said, "We're not done."
And I don't think we'll ever be done. We
have to train. We have to always be
prepared. And now we're doing mass
casualty incident training for all over
Israel. Why? Because in case we have a
war with Iran again, Iran could hit us
again. Iran is getting prepared for that
in case we have kas shalom or earthquake
that could happen too. So you can't say
oh hatella okay we just had a war two
and a half years guys take a vacation
only babies are going to be born now
heart attacks maybe babies maybe that we
might have another very bad war we
should be prepared for I wish Israel
will always think this way if we always
think this way then we might have
another war coming the same way Hatsella
thinks and we always thought like that I
always if you remember all the years I
came here and he always said to me Rabbi
why do you still need a fundraise why do
you need to do this.
>> We'll get to that.
>> Yeah. [laughter] But I just wanted to
say we always need to have the
preparedness and readiness for the next
disaster, the next meas.
>> Out of 8,000 volunteers, how many do you
know personally by name? My mother told
me and we give our condolences. You
know, Ali, you know, recently suffered a
loss and we're sitting Shiva. My mother
said, as volunteers came in to pay the
Shiva call, when they would leave, you
would say to my mother to other people
who, you know, oh, that's so and so.
That's so and so. You won't believe the
story that he did, that she did, what
happened here, what happened there. out
of the 8,000 volunteers. How many do you
know?
>> I I think I know not all eight, but I I
know a lot of them. I would know
thousands of them and I and I care about
them. I love them. And I think the
biggest donors of Atella are not in Boca
Raton. The biggest donors of ATA are
these volunteers are the volunteers. Not
Miriam add the biggest donor. The
biggest donor is a guy called Sammy
who's a taxi driver in Shalim and he
goes out to five emergencies every day
for free. He stops his work. He could
kick out a customer out of his taxi.
He's driving a customer from the Waldorf
to Tel Aviv. And he says, "I'm so sorry.
I have an emergency. You have to leave
or stay. Just wait. I'm going to go save
someone." He's a crazy guy. He's a sugar
nut like all of us. Carries this orange
vest and he loses money every day by
saving people. And these are our donors.
So, how could I not know him? I have to
know all the most important donors.
>> Amazing. So, you know, it's said that
when when God needs some money, he calls
Ellie Beer. [laughter] So, um,
>> you know, it reminds me that they say
the difference between Donald Trump and
God. God doesn't think he's Donald
Trump. [laughter]
>> Let's hope he doesn't see this episode.
Ellie,
>> you won't be invited back. So, um,
you're you're one of the great, um,
fundraiser of our time. And I don't mean
that because you're some salesman. I
mean that you believe in what you
founded and what you do. you know the
difference that it makes and you've been
able to get a world of people on board
in in in doing that as well.
Help us both both as fundraisers and and
the audience understand in whatever
they're doing because everything in life
is sales. It doesn't matter what
profession you have and what you're
doing. Everybody's a salesman, a
fundraiser, everyone's what what's the
secret of your success? Um here you are
a Karedi kid from Bay Vagan started this
organization that you know thank God is
incredibly successful by measures of
volunteers lives saved and also you know
thank God the financial health of the
organization you're going to have a gala
here in Miami and every year I sit there
and I say can't Ellie just give like 10%
of this back to BRS you know just just a
little bit what he'll raise in one night
we don't raise in in 10 years so what's
the secret to it
>> I think first of all I really believe in
siata desmaya.
I'm like I can't say this to two rabbis.
Like I'm the one who as a simple Jew. I
think God loves the organization and I
somehow
got a good relationship. You know, I
think that's uh that's the key. But
second of all, believing in the mission.
I will never leave anywhere in my house.
I would go on vacation without this
vest.
I would walk around the streets with a
brochure or something about United
seller. I I I don't go to sleep at night
before I think about what I'm doing the
next day to help the organization like
247. This is Unitedella wherever I go.
And people really fall in love with the
organization. Not only donors, I'm
saying as I said before, the donors are
the volunteers too. And I treat the
volunteers the same way I treat the
donors and vice versa. So I really think
believing in the mission and fighting
for the mission, not taking a vacation.
Okay, I'm two weeks off. I don't want to
talk about United Salah. So really
people really feel like even donors who
invite me for Shabbat, which you know
someone invited me for Shabbat, they
know that I'm there. I'm going to talk
about this organization,
people invite me to their boats, to
their you vacation homes, and I'm really
I'm not selling because I believe in
this. I really think about this. My kids
are following my footsteps as
volunteers. So I think United atella is
an example and I'm not the only one. I
think every one of the 8,000 members and
you've seen them in Israel. One of them
is your brother. They actually love the
organization. They feel connected and
and it starts with me and everyone else
is like that and the donors are like
that. Donors keep thinking about it. We
were just on the way here and the donor
calls me and he's a very important he's
he's getting honored. Barry Skolnick.
He's one of the biggest donors of the
hospitals and here in Florida. He's the
head of the chairman of Mount Si and he
says, "I need to get more people
involved. I need to get uh this guy." He
says, "He's not Jewish, but he would
love what you do." Like, this is the way
we need. Everyone should be connected.
Not only Sammy, the the taxi driver, but
the biggest donor of the organization
should feel the same.
>> Is there It's definitely genuine. It's
coming from you. You living and
breathing it. Um, is there a
professionalism or strategy? What would
you tell people? Is the matter of
touches that you have? You remember the
birthdays? You guys do great videos to
commemorate an anniversary or celebrate
an anniversary and here's all the lives
that you
>> I'll tell you what I think he does
better almost than anybody else I know
and then then you'll answer the
question. You you are a brilliant
storyteller even just listening to you
right now when you when you talk about
Sammy the everyday taxi driver creates
an image in everyone's head of what and
and I I've heard you many times from the
pulpit here you're always telling
stories and I think it's the stories
that really resonate and relate to
people. Um but I'm wondering if there
are other strategies also. I I think the
fact and I'll just give a few secrets. I
I actually think being very transparent
with the supporters or donors about not
only the successes also failures, they
feel connected when you you're
one-on-one. But of course, building a
personal relationship is the most
important thing. When when a donor knows
he's not only a donor, he's a friend and
you're there for him and he's there for
you and in any situation and being
involved with their life and inviting
them to your home and being part like a
donor is not just once a year come get a
check. If you think that's the job,
you're going to get a one or two years
that's it. But if the donor knows you're
there 12 times a year, not only seven,
your bar mitzvah, birthdays, you know,
Neie Phallic from here. Sure. phallic
family, a very big philanthropist. Neie
is going to be the chair of our gala
with another family, the silver family,
Mark and Barbara. So there I'm telling
you personal names, right, of people.
Neie has great grandchildren already who
are supporting United Hutsella and she's
a birthday yesterday. Calling her and
wishing her a happy birthday makes a
very big difference.
You know, like think about it. It takes
five minutes of your time to call. Well,
it's not only p people like her. Even
like smaller donors, you call a donor,
even a person who didn't give a lot and
he gets that attention.
I'll give you an example. This weekend,
I I was in Miami and I saw a family from
from Brooklyn and they're not big
donors, but they're nice people. Really,
really nice people. And they saw me and
they said, "Oh, we're having lunch in
this restaurant. Could you join us?" I
said, "You know what? Could I come for
10 minutes?" I came for 10, 20 minutes.
It made such an impact and they know
they're not big donors. Talking about
they they some years they don't give at
all but they did give and and they saw
in the street giving them a little nas a
little personal connection.
>> They're back on on the back to support
their work.
>> You ever have boundaries of who you
don't take donations from? If if um you
find out somebody's indicted, somebody's
a criminal, there's questions or
accusations or they're sketchy, would
you turn down that donation? Um what's
Hatella's opinion about evangelical
money? Um I I recently was um was
sitting next to a pastor who through his
evangelical network had has raised tens
of millions of dollars for Israel. And
even the people who are principled and
said they would never touch that money.
Little do they know that the medical
care they're getting in parts of Israel,
if there's a if there's a hospital, it's
because they donated it. Or if a a fire
engine comes to rescue them, it's
because that firehouse was donated by
them. So, does Hatala have strict rules
on its donors? If they're criminals or
alleged criminals, if it's coming from
non-Jewish sources, what those sources
are?
>> Well, that's a amazing question. Every
we had these debates many times, and I I
just said, and this is a rule we have,
if someone has an agenda of hurting the
Jewish people, we will not take them
because we're there to save the Jewish
people. So, we had checks. We return to
missionary groups that are come to
Israel, not the evangelicals who love
Israel, who don't have an agenda of
missionary. If they have a missionary
agenda, we will not take money and
because it hurts the Jewish people when
they come to Israel and they and we had
a story of a a organization who out of
the blue showed up and gave us a very
big donation. And I said, "Who are
they?" They had a very Jewish name. And
I I looked in and I see they are Jews
for Jesus and they are in Israel
trying to recruit people to join their
their group. We gave back the check. We
don't want to take money. And a lot of
organizations said, "What do we what do
we care?" I said, "Look, we're there to
save people. I don't think they're
saving people. They're hurting the
Jewish people. Simulation is part of the
problem we have." And but others like uh
Pastor Hegy and others who are giving
money to Israel, they don't have a an
agenda like that. you know, they have
their beliefs and and that's
questionable also or what exactly the
beliefs, but for now they're our best
friends and these in, you know, in our
gallery honoring now two non-Jews. Oh,
sorry. One non-Jew is um Mike Pompeo.
He's a religious Christian and he really
loves Israel. If he if he wants to write
a million dollar check, it's fine. We'll
take the money. And we're honoring him
because he loves Israel and he has no
agenda besides loving Israel. So we have
to always check to see what's the agenda
behind it. If someone comes to if
someone's a big criminal and they're
giving us money to clean themsel up to
look to show it, we have to check it
out. I mean we do a lot of times we have
these situations.
>> You know Ellie, every time I see you and
and I admire you for so many things, but
one of them is that whenever I'm talking
to you, you feel so present in the
conversation. I'm a little nobody. I'm
not a big rabbi. I'm not a certainly not
a big donor to United Atsella,
>> but I feel like yet maybe if I win the
lottery.
>> We almost we we had
>> we almost got I just I was a few numbers
off. Um no, but really every time I feel
like I talk to you like you see me. In
other words, you're very present in the
conversation. Is that something that
comes natural to you? Is it something
you work on? Are you a naturally just
relaxed person and able to be present in
conversations or are there things that
stress you that you have to overcome in
order to be present in those
conversations?
I I I must say these are things I never
got asked and I'll be
>> we're behind the bea now. That's
>> No, this is amazing. I'm going to be
open about my my personal challenges I
had over the years and I became better
and I learned and I think I used to be
invited to very important like
conferences and years ago world economic
forum and I got awarded as a young
leadership young global leader which is
a big m and you you meet all these very
like Bill Gates is right next to you and
all these other guys and I learned
something very very important there. I
really learned something very important
and I wrote in my book 90 seconds. I
went there and I realized very very
wealthy people, billionaires, they want
to always meet people who are wealthier
than them. They don't want to pay
attention to people who are,
you know, they don't want to meet a
millionaire. They want to only meet
someone who's a really bigger
billionaire than them. And then I went
to an event there in in the World
Economic Forum of the Bank of America.
They had like a nice, you know, evening
event and no one was talking to me
because I was like, "What do you do?" I
said, "I I build this uh fast response
of volunteers who come immediately and
how much are you worth?" Exactly.
>> And like they listen to Oh, very nice.
And they like walk away very fast. And
my wife was there with me, Gy. And I and
I said to Git, you know, no one really
cares about what I do. I could save the
whole world. They don't care. They just
want to meet richer guys than them. And
I said, "You want to see how they do
care about me? I'll I'll show you." and
they want to talk to me. So, one guy
comes over to me and my wife's there and
she didn't expect this. And the guy
says, 'What do you do for a living? I
said, 'Oh, I own a falafel stand. The
guy says, "A falafel stand? What do you
falafel stand?" I said, "Yeah." I said,
"In Madison and 53rd, I have this
falafel stand. I sell falafel." He looks
at me, he says, "Falafel? Is that the
Israeli the Mediterranean thing?" I
said, "Yes." He says, he looks at me, he
says, "So, how did you get invited to
the World Economic Forum?" [laughter]
said, "It's a very successful falafel
stand."
>> Yeah. I said, "We make we sell so much
we sell so much volume a year. I made
$50 million last year." He says, "How
did you do that?" I said, "I don't
change the oil. I make [laughter]
like I just made up a story. The guy
called all his friends over to hear my
story because I sell falafel. $50
million of falafel. That's more
interesting than motorcycles,
ambulances, helicopters, saving lives.
That's not interesting. That's not
making money. So I told my wife, I have
to start paying attention to everyone.
Because if you see a guy and you just
dismiss him basically, oh, what do you
do? I'm a rabbi. Okay, I want to meet I
don't want to meet a rabbi. I want to
meet the donor of the sh. If you give
attention to every person for the long
run, it's going to be the best thing.
And I started paying attention to
people. And before that, I was like
them. I used to see someone and talk to
them in the face and look above their
shoulders to see who's the next guy I
want to talk to more importantly.
>> And today and I realize that's the worst
thing for a fundraiser
>> because sometimes you know you get stuck
with a person and you see this a lot I'm
sure it's like he's just finished
speaking in front of a thousand people
and everyone's like excited and all of a
sudden this old lady comes over and she
says oh my grandmother grew up with
[laughter] your grandma and you get
stuck. What do you do? and you see this
billionaire walking around and you want
to talk to that person, but you know
what? For the long run, it's worth it
for you to learn how to give attention
to the person talking to you and it
changed my life.
>> I want to go back to something you said
before really struck me. Um, one of the
successes of fundraising is that you
live and breathe hot 247. The vest comes
with you wherever you are. Whatever
you're doing on vacation, at home with
your family, it's what you're thinking
about in a very different scale. I
relate to that because you know BRS the
work we do here our work and trying to
inspire and teach and share Torah to the
world also it's it's sort of synonymous
with who I am and I waver between that
being an asset a wonderful thing to be
so intertwined and so connected and live
and breathe it to it also being a
liability that who am I and what's my
identity without it if if it were taken
away from me tomorrow what's left of who
I am and and do you ever struggle with
that um does your family ever say to you
you know does gi say Ellie or your
children say abba like turn it off. Shut
it down. We get it. We love too but like
enough. You're an abba. You're a
husband. You're an Evid Hashem. You're a
friend. You're a a neighbor. You're a
child. Like just turn it off. That's not
It is a beautiful incredible thing you
built. It is a legacy, but it isn't your
identity. Who you are? How do you
navigate the wonder of it being part of
who you are which is part of the secret
of its success but also the danger of it
being part of who you are that you have
to have an identity and a life separate
and apart from it.
>> That's a brilliant question. I I'll say
first of all it comes to I have an
answer that have to divide it to two. My
family I tell my family stop talking
about it. It's funny because we sit
around the table. My wife is a
volunteer. She's a paramedic. My
daughters,
three out of my four are volunteers. My
youngest, 18, is going to be one soon.
My son is finished the army. He's a
paramedic. He's a medic in the army and
he's joining a cellar now. And my two
son-in-laws. So, think about it. I'm
sitting around the table. All they want
to talk about is first of all, they want
to complain. Oh, this this that that
this. [laughter] I don't want to hear
any complaints. I'm not I'm not in the
Hella office now. Like I want to sit and
just enjoy a meal, hear about the kids,
hear about So I'm the one pushing to
stop talking about the organization.
They actually are waiting for me. It's
like a meeting literally a Shabas
dinner. It's like they all have an
agenda,
>> right?
>> This guy didn't get a motorcycle. This
guy's complaining. This guy this and
that. And they they people talk to them
to talk to me. So I actually say nothing
in the in in the table. I'm the one and
I love it that they want to talk about
it, but it drives me nuts.
>> And sometimes we I really like get
upset. What are you like? It's like I
felt like I'm a lynch. They're lynching
me, you know, like that's the first
part. The second part is
I realized something very important in
fundraising.
Being a friend of donors is not only
talking about United and it was very
hard for me to learn. I was I learned it
in the hard way. I actually I have a I
have a big supporter. His name is Bob
Book. I wrote about him in the book. Bob
Book. I wrote him in my book and he's an
amazing person. He does so much. He's a
really great guy. At one point he got
very upset at me. All I was talking
about United like every corner like his
like invited me to stay with him for a
few days. I stayed with him. I had a
great time. But I was like I had to like
build conversations about other things
understanding other things. I don't know
anything about golf. I don't know
anything about tennis. So some people oh
I paid paddle. What is paddle? Like I
had to learn stuff to be in fundraising.
if you want to be a friend of donors and
we and he really taught me Bob said stop
only talking about this this is years
ago and he made me a better fundraiser
by telling me this because a lot of
donors would not tell you they just say
I can't have this guy all he talks about
is the United States so I had to learn
about politics American politics Israeli
politics if I'm in Europe talk about the
EU and and then talk about like paddle
is a new thing now I didn't know I have
to learn about paddle now because
someone started talking to me about
paddle, a big donor of ours. And now I'm
like learning what is this new thing. So
this is part of being like you're a
rabbi. You could only talk about Torah
and no one's going to come. But I know
that every time I and your shu and I I
heard both of you speak, you're
brilliant speakers. You start with a
joke. You start with something funny.
It's not like you make people understand
you're not only that rabbi that wants to
push Torah, but you want to also push
other things. You talk politics a
little. It makes people understand that
you could be a friend, not only a rabbi.
>> That's huge. Can you can you shut off
the hatella for yourself? Not only as a
strategy in developing relationships
with donors, but for you, can can you go
away for a couple days and you know what
would you do? Read, learn, knock golf,
obviously maybe paddle, but can can you
turn off the hata?
Well, that's very very hard. Honestly, I
that's my biggest trouble. I can't even
fall asleep at night. I have to take a
sleeping pill every night since co since
that episode I had I think about it all
day and it's everything I have I'm
partners in a real estate business in
America and my partner says to me Ellie
come on you don't call like I forget I'm
totally forget that I'm involved with
him I never talk to anyone about it and
I'm like my life is surrounding this
organization so now I have to shut it
off so I have once a day I have a rabbi
who calls me Eton my good friend from my
but he's originally from Newell and he
calls me every day to learn with me 90
seconds
>> we know him
>> you know Rabbi
>> sure
>> he's amazing and he and he pushed me for
it I couldn't do it I never learned
before like my whole day is at salah so
I'm like saving lives right so I don't
have to learn I don't have to do
anything I just save lives and he's like
every day calls me 90 seconds and I
answer him and I learn with him 90
seconds that's really not only 90
seconds. I'm not
>> What does that do for you that Torah?
Tell the people listening that the great
Ellie Beer to shut off learns Torah for
90 seconds.
>> It It really helped me remember who I am
as a Jew, you know, like some people
learn all day. I think that's too much.
I think you should learn part of the
day. You should I can't commit myself
more than 90 seconds. And anyone who
knows me knows it's true. Like that's
who I am. And I think that 90 seconds
really brings me back to
the essence of being a Jew to remember
the Torah. Like he gives me a V Torah a
day every day. Yesterday was about about
thanksgiving, you know, connecting to
like every day is connecting and uh
>> those 90 seconds save your life.
>> You're 90 seconds you're saving other
lives and the 90 seconds save your life.
>> Yeah. I I actually think first of all, a
lot of people followed me, friends of
mine, even nonorthodox people. I tell
them I learn 90 seconds a day. They
said, "How do you do that?" I connect
them with Eton and they learn with him.
>> My daughter works for him. My daughter
learns with a group of women 90 seconds
a day.
>> Really?
>> We're signing people up and it's such a
beautiful thing because there's nobody
on earth who can say I don't have 90
seconds.
>> And that way not one day goes by that
you haven't learned at least 90 seconds.
Like whether it's Hatsala or whether
you're a lawyer, whether you're in
private equity, whatever you're in, you
need 90 seconds where that's not who you
are. 90 seconds where you remember who
you are. It's an anchor. It's a
beautiful program he has.
>> And I never thought I could do it. I I
made up with him a week and then another
week, another week, and I'm doing this
for almost two years.
>> Wow.
>> And I said, I never had a kusa before.
Like I couldn't even in yeshiva like I
never showed up for kusa.
>> Yeah.
>> And uh all of a sudden I'm learning 90
seconds a day. And I think as a Jew, you
should commit for Judaism. Think put
your business aside. So, United sellers
is 247 besides 92,
>> right? Amazing.
>> I love that. You know, one of the one of
the things you read about a lot in the
news recently is that whether it's
millennials or Gen Z's or whatever we
want to call them, they are the selfish
generation, right? It's a generation of
the iPhone and the, you know, it's all
about I I I you've somehow broken
through that and created a culture where
volunteerism is exciting and celebrated.
Um,
what are some ways that you've done
that? In other words, how have you
tapped into this very selfish,
narcissistic generation and yet you've
created this culture of volunteerism?
And what have you learned about our
generation when everyone else is
knocking it? You've seen the best of
young people stepping forward and
volunteering their time. Um, what gives
you hope in terms of the next
generation?
>> Well, I love that question because I
really see the best of the best. The
people I hang out with are only good
people. So I don't like a lot of people
have businesses that they have to
negotiate with people and they steal
from each other and they they lie and
they just I deal with good people in
essence of good like people from all
sectors like it could be a guy from
Mashar told us who wants to be a
volunteer and he had to hide the fact
that he's in a volunteer organization
that is not you know like a hidden and
now thank god we have 30 volunteers from
to 30
>> and I went to visit him and then he
could go to kibuts in the south of
Israel
in in a place where in Yung Kipur they
have a big barbecue
and you meet the best of the best of
that kibuts and all of a sudden you
realize that you are a magnet of people
want to do good and in all all like
locations that I go to even Arab
communities in Israel which is shocking
sometimes I had last week in Abu Gos
150 young men and women Arab women
Muslim Muslim who came for a yearly
event that they came to, you know,
celebrate. They're all volunteers and
they're in part of United and they are
proud of it and they and I had Jason
Greenlat there and I'm
>> just saw this. I just saw this today.
It's great
>> and Jason had tears in his eyes. you
know, he was negotiating with the king
of uh of uh Bahrain and the king of Abu
Dhabi and this and that and he's like
dealing with all of he sees that in
Israel there is an organization that
that brings together people who just
want to do good and I always thought it
was only in the from communities which
is really interesting you see here in
Boca Raton and in New York and Miami and
other places and they're amazing people
they do unbelievable work but they they
come from the firm community so I grew
up in Bagan
And that's who who surrounded me from
volunteers. And all of a sudden today,
United Aellar has eight and over 8,000
volunteers
and almost 800 of them are Muslim.
Now I was shocked to see what Muslims
there to kill us. Yes, they have a small
population in Israel who actually want
to be part of what's going on in Israel.
And we have to embrace it and we have to
actually look for these people to bring
>> Do you worry? Do you worry about vetting
them? may be politically incorrect, but
we're living in such a time that you
have to be suspect. Do you worry that
somebody's going to sign up to be a
Hatala volunteer when the truth is that,
you know, they're they're from Hamas or
they're from even the Palestinian
Authority, there's some nefarious plan,
they want to get on the inside where
they can create that the very event that
you're training people to have to, god
forbid, respond to, could be created
from somebody who who breaks in as a
volunteer. Well, I had that issue like
18 years ago when I started joining Arab
volunteers from East Jerusalem. I had a
guy who was in politics. He's a good
friend of mine now, but he was attacking
me. His name was Arya King. He was like,
now he's like the deputy mayor of
Jerusalem. And he was like, Ellie,
you're taking terrorists and they're
going to they're going to kill people.
And he was attacking me even on the on
the radio, national radio. I had once a
debate with him. And I said, I never
heard of a terrorist who wants to go
through a year of a course of CPR,
delivering babies, um, oxygen and IVs,
if he could just take a car and run over
people and kill them without a year
course. Like, why would someone go
through a whole vetting process that we
have? We actually check everyone,
interview them, they go through the
course, they go through at least 10
tests during that year, and then they're
not going to go kill people. And I had I
think this was the best success we had
bringing people from communities that we
didn't trust each other into one
organization. I think you know people
who are very right-wing in Israel were
shocked when I did this and then they
became the biggest supporters like David
Freriedman who lives right here.
>> Yeah.
>> David Freriedman.
You could ask him. He when we had a
board meeting he was on that board many
years ago and we said and I thought he's
going to be against it. He said, "This
is brilliant."
>> And that's actually one of the reasons
he became ambassador because when he was
when the Senate were when he had a
hearing in the Senate, they asked him
about what he does in life. And when he
got to United Attella, like everyone lit
up, oh wow, Jews and Arabs saving lives
together.
>> And he had a Democrat vote for him
because of that. We needed that extra
vote. Um, and that's the beauty about
this organization. We actually check
everyone no matter if they're Jewish or
not Jewish to see who they are and we
want to see if they don't have criminal
records or anything else. But once they
join, they become committed. Their life
changes. Same way I wear this vest every
day. They have it with them wherever
they go and they they jump into the suit
and go save people's lives.
>> Well, you are amazing at name dropping.
You mentioned Marilyn add, you mentioned
Mike Pompeo. Obviously, Rabbi Goldber is
going to be at the gala. Um
>> Oh, yeah. right up there.
>> You've met kings and politicians and
gazillionaires. Is there anyone that
you'd love to get in front of? Is there
anyone out there that you say if I could
just get
>> Who's on your short list?
>> If I could get five minutes with that
person, I could turn them into a donor,
into a supporter, into a lover of
Israel. Who's that person?
>> First of all, my dream is to go once
more into behind the beimma. That was
[laughter] one of my
>> check. No, seriously, if you think about
>> I'd rather be behind the beimma with the
real deal. so sweet.
>> Instead of like who who am I going to
meet? The king of Saudi Arabia. Like
come on that guy. I don't want him to
chop me up to pieces. Like I don't want
like I want to be in the real where the
people the real people are and the
biggest the biggest hearts. That said,
who's on your list? Your team, your
amazing team. Who are they working on
still getting you?
>> Uh we have a list.
>> We'll help you get the meeting. Give us
some names. Come on. We'll set it up for
you afterward. Ken Griffin is a good guy
to have. Bring him over to the gala.
>> Okay. He's right here.
>> He's local. He's right here.
>> He's local here. Yeah. So, look, I
always want to meet. The truth is
meeting people for picture. I used to do
that years ago. It's years ago when I
was younger. Oh, you meet this guy, take
a picture. It doesn't mean anything
anymore. It's like, how do you get
someone involved?
Someone like these names that we always
think about. How do we get them into the
shel? How do we get you could bring you
could bring here uh like Jeff Bezos into
the show? He'll speak here. It's going
to be great. A lot of people come hear
him, but he's not going to donate here.
It's like
>> how do you translate that? How do you
translate someone into a donor? How do
you translate someone into a believer?
These, if you had Ken Griffin here right
now, he would say, "I give millions of
dollars a year to charity. I have a line
from here to New York City with people
who are asking me for donations." when
you get in there, how do you turn that
person who's got a million
organizations, oh, I already support
Main DevOp. How do you say, "No, no, but
this is different." Like, give me five
minutes to explain to you that this is
different and I promise you it'll not
only change my organization, it'll
change your life. How do you make that
sell quickly?
>> Well, this is the elevator pitch you
have to always practice. And I always
say like when I meet people like him, I
once met in the World Economic Forum. I
met Bill Gates
and I and I said and I was in actually I
met him in the bathroom and he had like
>> you had him cornered
>> 30 seconds like washing your hands and I
was like and I said to him um just to
catch his attention I said I have an
idea that can make you a rich man.
>> So he started laughing and then I said
he says what do you do? So I I said I
created the fastest medical response
paramedics on motorcycles.
That was it. And that was interesting
for him to have a conversation. Then he
gave me his the card of his head of the
foundation and I spoke to and he said,
"I love everything you do." I spoke for
30 minutes with him and we sat down and
he said, "Well, we don't do in Israel
anything, but if you ever do it in
Africa, whatever, you know, but if you
meet a guy like Ken Griffin or anyone
else like him and you want to bring him
involved, like he needs to feel like
this is something that he could benefit
from, like this is part of his agenda."
Like we love Israel. I will not say
Israel is part of my like I want to make
Israel strong. That's not his agenda.
But I created a network of volunteers
who will stop everything they do day and
night and run out to save other people's
lives. And it's the fastest mechanical
response and they their goal is to get
there in 90 seconds. So here you have a
story and once they have that story then
you can build a conversation because you
need that 30 seconds not five minutes.
>> When did you come up with the line for
Bill Gates? I have an idea that can make
you a rich one.
>> In the bathroom while I saw him I was
like
>> it was right then. wasn't that you said
I'm going to this Bill Gates will be
there if I cross paths I should say
this.
>> Yeah. And I met amazing people there
like
you know Michael Dell I met there. I'm
throwing names not because because they
these they have foundations you could
look they support and he I it took me 30
seconds to give him that pitch. And then
I sent him already by email my TED talk.
Then you know many years ago that was a
great way of me like a guy who like him
he knows what TED talks are. So once he
heard that he said I want to support the
organization.
>> What about you you mentioned the
Democrat who voted for Ambassador
Freriedman because of the work of Jews
and Arabs together Muslims together.
Have you have you tried or thought of
not only your work in Hatella and saving
lives but obviously somebody who
dedicates his life to represent and gain
support for Israel? What about Jewish
celebrities in America? so many of whom
are are liberal, are left-leaning, are
have have not been there for Israel the
way they should the last two plus years.
What about getting them to see the
beauty, right? And and and because
Israel's painted as this aggressor and
this blood liel of our time that
Israel's perpetrated a genocide and all
the lies that Israel's extinguishing,
how about bringing to them this beauty
of Israel? Look how Jews and Arabs as a
model working together to save lives.
You know, you you see or you believe or
buy into this worst, let me tell you
about the best. And then getting some of
these Jewish celebrities who have
enormously large followings to be able
to see and celebrate that part about
Israel, something they can get behind
even if they're sadly buying into the
lies.
>> It's it's funny saying that because just
this week I was I got a podcast in
Israel in Jerusalem Post and we were
talking about this. You I have we have a
tunam organization. Forget about the
country we're serving in. We actually
created something that Jews and Arabs
and Christians all could unite in one
mission and we should spread it around
that people should understand that this
is the real Israel. What they read on
the news of some guys beating up Arabs
and some keep some Yeshua in Judea and
Samaria, that's not the real Israel. Is
Israel is what you guys believe in. The
rabbis believe in you believe in this.
When I say Arabs, I'm not embarrassed to
say it in a shul or an Orthodox sh
because we believe in this mission.
And this is who we are. This is the the
real Jewish
nature of helping each other, helping
non non pe non-Jewish and Jewish as we
never had a situation when I grew up. I
never had in my house and I grew up in
an Orthodox home. We only have to save
Jewish people. Never. We go to save
everyone. We help everyone. This is who
we are. So I actually want to promote it
more. I want to do it more. I want to
speak more about not only fundraising
but also promoting what who Israel is.
>> Yeah. Because even if you don't raise $1
with it, but you raise lots of
supporters of Israel and you can offset
this horrific narrative, that's as much
as life-saving mission as raising the
dollars because Israel needs that. The
Jewish people
>> I would love even
offline talking about how do I do that?
I actually never did. I always think how
do I get more funding for Unitedella but
I actually do want to make sure after
two and a half years aggressive years
against Israel this was the worst PR
>> we won big time because we had seven
countries battling with us and look
where we are now but
>> in the other hand it's a hard time for
Jews in the world in terms of PR and I
think if we start talking not only about
United but other organizations like us
and and companies like does. Let's bring
the beauty of Israel.
>> Yeah. For for every time Rashida Tle Ban
Omar put out a video that Israel
practices apartheid, Hatal put out a
video saying a partid. We work together.
We collaborate and we save each other's
lives.
>> Or or the mayor that you're the mayor.
You're in you're in, you know, violation
of international law. Why? Because we're
bringing Israelis and Muslims together
to save lives. You know, which
international law is that in violation?
could be a new extended mission of
>> I would love to make like a hundred
videos of Arabs and Jews in Israel
practicing learning. We actually have
Nancy Spielberg is coming out with a
like a documentary about us about
following two women, an Arab Muslim
woman with a hijab and a religious
Karedi woman with a training together
for MCIs and EMT training with a United
Hutella. And this is a documentary about
the whole process. It's unbelievable to
see. And that's the real story. what
Mani is trying to do and he attacked us
for that that we're helping in Judean
and Samaria and we and we are like
violating international law. That's
nonsense. We're saving lives of
everyone. We never said to one person,
"Oh, sorry. Uh oh, you're not you're
Muslim. We're not going to help you." We
help everyone. We put our lives in
danger. Actually, on October 7th, we had
a Muslim volunteer who was killed,
murdered by the kamas
while he was saving lives on the Nova
Festival. He came a wad and I spoke
about this before. He came into the nova
to to help people and save people. He
didn't run away. He stayed there with
Barriststein and many others who stayed
to help people. When the kamas came,
they saw he was a Muslim. They saw he
was an Arab. He prayed five times a day.
They shot him 25 times
and he was wearing the hatal jacket. And
that's that's who we are. That's the
world should know about this. Do you
encounter anti-semitism when if you're
ever pitching to someone? Do you ever
get a response with anti-Israel vitrial
that I would never support or you do
enough due diligence beforehand to know
that you're pitching to a supporter?
>> It's interesting. Not in the last two
years, but before that, I had a few
situations where I spoke to very
successful Jewish people from here in
America without mentioning names. They
said, "Well, we like Israel, but we have
nothing to do with Israel." like, "Yeah,
we're Jewish, but we we don't support
Israel." And I was shocked because I
heard that story for my father as a
child. My father grew up in New York in
Lower East Side and my father was
raising money for Vada Salah and he
raised money to save Jews running out of
Europe. My father was a amazing person.
You met my father
>> as a kid actually in his store
>> before I never heard of Ellie Beer
Hatala. Before you dreamt of Yeah. He
did so much and he went from store to
store. This is 1943
to try to raise money to save Jews
running out of Europe. They had to get
into America. They couldn't get them in.
And uh my father went into a beautiful
jewelry store and the guy started
screaming at him. He said, "The Jews in
Europe, they should take care of
themselves. They're not our problem. I'm
an American. I'm not a European." And he
kicked my father out. My father was
crying outside. And I heard the story as
a child for my father. He told me the
story and I said to him, "How did you
overcome?" And I was crying when I heard
the story. How could a Jew say a thing
like that? And then he said to me, a a
person passed by and he saw him crying.
And he said, "Why are you crying?" And
he said, "What happened?" He said,
"Don't don't worry. Not everyone
understands and I understand what you're
doing. Come to my store. I want to give
you $5
>> and you should come every week because I
want to support what you're doing." My
father was a kid, 12 years old.
And when I heard that story, it shaped
my life. And I learned how to deal with
people who told me that. And I met a guy
who could in one second write a 10 10
million hundred million dollar check
with one second. No problem. And he said
to me, is Israel is not in my I don't
care about Israel. I like Israel. He
didn't he wasn't against and I was
thinking about the story my father told
me. So I was thinking about that. Not
every Jew
is Z has a merit Z is merit right
>> to help Israel and we should promote
more and more and get them and
eventually I I have in my agenda to
break him down like [snorts] I think one
day that little
>> yeah I mean
>> has anyone replicated what you're doing
I mean you think of anything Manhattan
Manny could use United Hotella the the
model not for you to open a franchise
there but uh the idea of people being
trained and and be able to respond in 90
seconds in areas where there's highly
high high congestion, you can't drive,
ambulances can't get through. So, are
there cities, states, countries that
have replicated what you've done?
>> Well, I think Mumani is thinking about
opening united now.
>> That's his agenda. It looks like
>> um I don't trust that guy. I don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong. I
>> Forget him though. I'm saying Manhattan
place open like I would if Mumani will
change which you see you know you follow
the news you know he's been the white
house and this and that I think New York
City could benefit from an organization
like United Atella and of course they
have in in New York and all the Jewish
communities they're amazing in Brooklyn
and Manhattan and Stat Island even in in
in everywhere but outside of the Jewish
world they don't have a they could wait
15 minutes for an ambulance
someone choking in the 50th floor in a
building in Manhattan, that person is
dead, but if they have an organization
like United Attella, which is
peer-to-peer,
imagine yourself every so why isn't has
anyone are there countries in Paris and
London and New York anywhere someone
studied and said, you know, Hatal has
figured this out in 90 seconds. This is
the technology. This is the these are
the volunteers. This is the the the
transportation. Anyone replicating what
you're doing? Well, so we we're to we
had a replication in New Jersey in
Jersey City with the mayor of Jersey
City and it was very successful and then
CO came and the whole thing stopped
because of CO the unions were like very
tough. No volunteers will go out. I
didn't make it didn't make sense to me
but then I took a rest for a few months.
I was like out of business and we had it
for five years working in Jersey City.
Jews and non-Jews in Jersey City was
were responded. We lowered response time
from 11 minutes to three and a half
minutes in Jersey City. So that was our
case study that we saw that it could
work everywhere. I'm very busy in Israel
now, but once things relax in Israel, I
want to bring it to another city. Like I
don't know about New York, but I want to
bring it to the non-Jewish crowd. I want
to bring this beautiful tikunam idea
to a country or a city that would say,
you know what, we want to do it. Oh, I
forgot to mention we had the we had the
deputy mayor uh sorry the lieutenant
governor of Iowa visit United Hudzella
and now they're in the process of
building Unitedella model in Iowa the
state Iowa with the governor. So they
actually are it's not done yet but
they're in the process of doing it. So I
really one of my missions in life I'm
only 52 so I have a few more years I
want to bring this idea to the world and
you see when I came here to Boca Raton
years ago they never had a seller here
after speaking and talking about it
people here woke up and they created
>> here is fantastic we were hesitant at
first when they first opened also
because we have a we had a very good
response time locally and why do we need
that but Atella is an incredible
organization locally and what they bring
not only in the response time but also
the familiar familiarity of the
volunteers knowing the community people
sensitivity going well beyond their
mission you know other emergency
services if someone passed away you know
they did they could they pull right out
our volunteers stay in with the family
transport they it's it's extraordinary
so we're very grateful and supportive
and everyone should support in addition
to United Hatsella in Israel but the
local hatella as well
>> definitely and they have in over 50
places around the world
>> and now they're creating one in Colombia
the not the university That's too
dangerous. The country
>> the country Colombia they're actually
creating in the Jewish community there.
Hatsella I I'm very proud when I see
Hutella volunteers you know Kasco Bud
and here and other guys here it's just a
beautiful thing that people are willing
to stop everything they do and it's it's
a crazy idea and it's it's working
people more and more people want we
probably have
10,000 kids right now who are dreaming
this second how do we become Hatella
volunteers no matter where they live and
we have a program the light legacy
heroes of children.
>> You're speaking to our youth department.
>> Exactly. The light. This is um big
supporters of ours here in the community
and they have, you know, um Lynn and uh
Polite and they're amazing people, your
parents friends. And they said, "What
about the next generation, the kids? How
do we get them involved?" And now in
this year, we recruited almost 2,000
kids
>> like the Reb's army like uh you know
Hashem. But but let me ask you about
that because you were talking about
getting kids involved and obviously on a
volunteer level that's easy and it's
exciting and it and it gives someone a
certain purpose. You have a big gala
coming up. Probably Goldberg made a joke
about the amount of money that please
God you will not just raise but surpass
your goals at the gala. Um, it's very
easy for someone to look at that and to
look at the names, the Jay Lenos and
the, you know, all the speakers that you
have and the glitz and the glamour and
say, you know, if I have like a small
thousand dollars to be able to give a
couple hundred dollars and for me that's
a big amount. Like Hutella doesn't need
me. They've got the Jay Lenos and
they've got the Ken Griffins. They don't
need a Phil Mosquitz's thousand.
>> Last year, two years ago, Elon Gold said
he raised his hand. You were going
around then he raises I'd like to
announce a pledge of a million dollars.
He said, "Wow." and he said,"Id like to
announce that, but I can't [laughter]
give a million dollars." That was a
great line,
>> right? But like, what would you say to a
smaller donor, someone who again isn't
going to move the needle tremendously
within Salah, but you want them to feel
part of that organization, you want them
to feel that they're not just they're
volunteering, but their donation
matters. What would you tell that
person? Well, I think first of all, you
could see I I just this morning I read a
little email that was sent to a a young
young kid who donated a defibrillator
for his bar mitzvah. And uh he did a
project. He didn't donate the money. He
actually raised the money uh for his bar
mitzvah. The defibrillator was $2,500
and he raised a little more, but he we
have a defibrillator with his name on it
that was given to a volunteer in Bean,
which is, you know, the border of of of
uh it's middle of nowhere. Bean is like
most of Americans don't know where he
is. And someone had a cardiac arrest in
Bean last week. And this defibrillator
saved that that person's life. And this
now he's 14 years old. He gets an email,
your defibrillator just saved someone in
Beal's life.
Isn't that amazing that a kid 12 years
old, 14 years old get an email like
that? It's does you don't have to be you
know the the big mach is giving a
million dollars. You could give a
thousand. You give $360 to buy an oxygen
tank. Hatella is made out of thousands
of people. Everyone gives their the max
the maximum they could give. Some people
go out to 10 calls a month and some
people go out to 250 calls a month. Some
people give $100 and some people give a
million dollars. You need am Israel. You
can't say, "Oh, Atella is only for rich
people." Adella is for everyone. Same
way Atsella would treat everyone equally
and not charge money for that service.
Same way everyone has to support the
organization and not only in Israel,
also in America. Yes, Hashem gave
success to Unitedella. We are very I
think since we started this
organization,
we never had a deficit. It's
unbelievable.
Think about it. You know, so many
organizations can't pay payroll. Hashem
helped United Atsella to be in a
situation we don't have a deficit, but
we run the finances in an incredible
way. We have an amazing finance
committee, audit committee. We have a
planning committee. What do we do with
the money? This year, this coming year,
we're going to train every volunteer in
Israel with mass casualty incident
training. It takes two or three days to
train volunteers. Even doctors,
they come to a situation where they have
50 people injured in a terrorist attack.
Who do you treat first?
So, you have to learn this. It just
doesn't come from, you don't learn it on
YouTube. You actually have to train and
practice. To do a drill like that costs
tens of thousands of dollars, one drill.
And we're talking about training 8,000
members.
>> So, these things cost money. To train
one volunteer to join Autella costs
$10,000.
Why does it cost so much money? Because
you have to train them if it takes
almost a year to finish the training.
You have to give them the walkie-talkie
cost $2,500. A defibrillator which cost
$2,500. The medical equipment. So we
look at it as a package. When we join a
new course of volunteers, that's a
couple hundred,000 that we have to raise
for that. So when we do a gala and we
bring these fan like Jay Leno comes and
he says, I want to support and people
and we raise $10 million. That goes for
training. That goes for buying oxygen
for the year. That goes towards specific
projects that we know just to start
January 1st, we have to pay insurance
for over 2,300
vehicles.
Think about it. Just one ambulycle
insurance is almost $45,000 a year. So
millions of dollars just go to pay
insurance. Why is that? because if a
volunteer of ours gets injured and we
had a volunteer killed just a short
while ago on the way to save a life we
had a few unfortunately but even to a
guy like Bar Cooperstein who was
released his father was a volunteer of
ours Kooperstein on the way to save a
four-year-old girl in Colon
and someone crashed into him he was on
an ambic cycle he is on a wheelchair now
he can't even talk
and someone that insurance is a helping
not not enough of course but that you're
talking about one volunteer that had to
get help because of our insurance
>> so this is what we do and this is part
of where the money is going to so when
we do these events I want people who
don't have money to come to these events
and some people say I have only a few
hundred could I come I said of course
>> amazing Ellie thank you for your time
thank you for coming behind the bea
again we're looking forward to a great
together
>> and I really hope to come again you
invite me one day again
>> we Well, Hashem should bless you. Keep
doing your great work. Hatah in Israel,
Hatalah locally. And please God, hat
should only have to deliver babies and
spend all their time only doing good
things.
>> Mind you, last time I was here, one of
the last times I was here, while I was
here for Shabas in Boca Ratau in
synagogue, the war broke out in in in
Ukraine
>> and I was busy the whole Sha I was
speaking. You remember that?
>> Yeah.
>> And we actually saved a a one-day old
baby.
>> Yep. got the baby out.
>> That's that's something I'll never
forget. Every time I come back here and
I think
>> deja [clears throat] vu,
>> nothing should happen. But
>> that was powerful. Thank you, Ellie.
Thank you for all that you do.
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