Q&A With Rabbi Efrem Goldberg (Hosted by Nachi Gordon, Meaningful Minute) - Part 1

welcome everybody hope you're doing well we're very excited about tonight okay we'll give a second for everybody to join oh okay if you're joining tonight we have quite a gift planned for you we'll be joined by ephraim goldberg and we'll be doing some q a there is a i believe a question box down below or a question mark at least you can submit questions as we go along and some of them will definitely get answered and if not for this week maybe next week we hope this will be a weekly series every thursday night so if you're new here make sure to follow meaningful minute you can follow me from goldberg as well uh tonight's live stream is sponsorless all the learning inspiration should be an elias for the neshama and here we go we are adding or by goldberg feel free to add your question below as the live is going on there are many people who have sent in questions the whole time robert goldberg thank you so much for joining us my pleasure matthew great to see you good to have you guys it's good to be back together i'm very excited about this new series that we're launching over here me too it should be with a lot of mazel we should answer a lot of people's questions mercy um man it's better to be with you on air showers than it was on tissue above last time together so absolutely emergency yeah absolutely so let's let's jump right in and again i want to mention um for everyone who's just joining now feel free to either put your questions in the comments or if not i believe there's a question mark box down there you can submit your question over there and we'll hopefully get to it perfect someone just did that if you see that question box you could just go ahead and put a question there to start off we're gonna start off with a hard question that was sent in okay i am an older single and it's hard to remain positive my friends are most of them are married with kids how do i not let the fact that i am single consume me it's a great question and let me give the disclaimer before we even start i don't have all the answers for myself i ever obey my teachers i have people around me nor do i think that i might presume to think i could provide all the answers to you for tonight so with that disclaimer it's just my thoughts based on my own experiences and thinking out loud i hope people will share their reactions and comments and thoughts in the in the comments as well um it's a difficult question i mean people go on in life and they see the people around them their peers their age group and they want to be living that life they want that stage of life and it's very hard it can be very very difficult it takes almost superhuman ability to forgive to feel happy and joyous for others the ghazal rabbis tell us among the 48 ways the torah is acquired is no say but we have to have the capacity to lift the all of our friends and the simple understanding is you see someone in pain or suffering cook them a meal make a phone call lift their spirits unburden them however there's another interpretation the author of kelm says it means to forgive you can be with someone else not only in sadness you could be with someone else in happiness so one of the ways is to channel and realize that your friend's happiness is an extension of your own if you care about your friend and you see a piece of yourself in them then take joy in their simcha and their accomplishment in their in their achievement number one number two and i think much more importantly is we live in a world unfortunately that tries to define people by their marital status are you single are you married but being married while it's a major part of life certainly it defines lifestyle is not the only part of a person's identity there are people who are married you know i was talking to a shotgun who pointed this out to me that there's unfortunately a negative trend sometimes parents will have one child who's not married be a little bit older who's accomplished in a hundred other ways education professionally and yet they're not married yet not another child who's married but is unaccomplished hasn't really achieved anything professionally educationally leadership and community wise and sadly some parents will act as if the fact that one child is married is the greatest accomplishment and this is my married child now my other one who's a nobel prize winning discover the cure made peace in the world but they're not married so therefore they are less adequate and that's a mistake being single or married is not the sole definition of a person's identity of who we are it is certainly uh it has an impact on who we are but it's not the only definition so my advice is to try to forge a life and to make a difference in people's lives be a community leader volunteer take on a project realize the mission that we're meant to to do what difference we're meant to make by being here and while taking the initiative of going and trying to find that person and get married don't let that be the sum total of defining who a person is right so so to sort of wrap it up your relationship status should not define your entire life there is a lot more to it than whether you're married or single exactly you're an evident what's your relationship with god like david are you what kind of learner are you what kind of do you volunteer to do there's your social status what kind of friend are you there's community status what kind of community leader or volunteer are you but so much so much of our so much of our lives and i guess in the from jewish world is surrounded around marriage and kids and stuff like that so you you understand like it's it's difficult it's definitely absolutely i don't mean to suggest that it's easier to minimize the pain or the tension or the challenge of it for the person who is single sometimes for the family members who are longing it for them to be married you're right jewish life is dif is is designed around the family the shop is taking the table it's people make friends with where their kids are in school and so on and so forth so there is no question that that that is a big part of defining life and lifestyle but it doesn't have to be the only one i'm not suggesting give up hope don't get married move on and create an identity independent of being married be single no take initiative make an effort davin don't take uh excessive initiative this is an area that's only going to grow right that it says that hashem is the one who makes him so a person has to put their faith and submit and surrender to him while we take initiative we network and we make an effort but it doesn't have to be other people may try to limit you to define you by your marital status but you don't have to define yourself and what you object to others doesn't have to be defined by that alone right okay that sounds that sounds great i love that a lot of people are chiming in in the comments it's awesome continue to do so um and i see people are sending in questions over here so let me just check them out okay we have a question sent in let me see if i can okay how is a busy mom and business owner during this time can we prepare for the kadusha of rosh hashanah also a great question i happen to not be a busy mom so i probably have no credibility to answer i'm married to a pretty busy mom she's not a business owner but she's pretty busy with with the community um i'll tell you my simple answer is that don't put the pressure on yourself as if you were at a different age of life and had all of the free time and ability to be invested in the in the preparation for shoshone you did when you were in seminary or when you did at a different stage of your life before you had children before you out of the responsibility uh there have been some great gadoli who've written letters to moms who say that if you can't make it to rosh hashanah where you are you can't make it to the length of sure that you want to be there or show me your kipper don't beat yourself up and don't feel guilty being home with your children is your job that is your role that is your responsibility if a solo member runs out of davening to go save a life do we say you missed parts of david you don't take it seriously we say that's your job in that moment that's what we count on you for so those children they need life-saving supervision they need that inspiration and influence and that is the responsibility so that that's my simple answer i mean i do think that there are there's an incredible program called meaningful minute meaningful people the whole meaningful series you could be a busy mom and a business but you have to make it to work from work you could be watching you could be listening you can the beauty of meaningful minute what you created is you taught people that in one minute you can scroll mindlessly you can waste your time on nourish kite or in one minute something can touch you in a way that changes your whole day that changes your whole week that changes your whole life maybe you hear a speaker in that meaningful minute but to the great music and the great background and the great way that you stream it you could hear something that's that changes you so it's not all about sitting and going through you know whether you're going through uh you know some safer in preparation for rosh hashanah studying the master technology's afforded this opportunity to steal time i hate that express steal time when commuting when cooking when doing different things we can steal a minute still a minute there and the inspired but i think much more fundamentally don't put pressure on yourself beyond where you're meant to be at that stage of your life if you have young children at home you're a mom that's your job that's your job right now do the best you can to also prepare for astronaut but don't feel guilty and don't beat yourself up beautiful beautiful i want to part of this series that we're doing and something i'm going to try to do is just get as many questions out as possible and keep keep getting answers a lot of times a lot a lot of question and answer segments in the front world become question and answer because you know the focus is on on one really if telling me shorten the answers no you're doing great you're doing great so far i'm just you're a child like i'm ready to go okay we have another question sent in do you have any practical tips or advice to calm nerves and anxiety my nerves and anxiety have gotten a lot worse over covet absolutely number one if your nerves and anxiety have escalated they're elevated and you need help do not be shy do not hesitate get the help if you are if your tooth hurt if your elbow hurt if you had a physical pain you absolutely absolutely go to a doctor and if you have anxiety attention to the point that you think that there's a diagnosis that you need some support you need some therapy you need some medicine seek it there's no shame there's no embarrassment whatsoever i don't know if you've been alive the last two years and you don't have any anxiety i think there's something mentally unhealthy about you check your pulse check your pulse right if you're alive and and now the delta variants back and the pressure and the politics and the policies and the yum and the rhyme everyone is is heightened so number one is are you like clinical diagnosis level get help if it's general jewish neurosis anxiety here's a few quick ideas number one living with ammuna living with ammuna it's not a panacea i'm not suggesting that if you put more faith if you submit to hashem if you feel god in your life then don't worry you'll never be not a past it you have to remind ourselves all the time but when you make that effort to live with study watch subscribe listen there are countless resources to encourage and promote us living with emunah today and the more that you can stop yourself and realize hashem yesterday i flew back with my family a beautiful simha and the flight was delayed a couple hours and this thing didn't work then that was going to be delayed last night we have our podcast we had a technology breakdown i couldn't stream live the platform collapsed i was sitting on the plane with no wi-fi no ability to address and and you know what i just remembered i teach this living with emunah just take a deep breath let go and let god everything's for a reason everything is for a reason and when you put your faith and you submit and surrender to him and you recognize there are no coincidences it's all choreographed from above then you can handle anything that comes your way take that deep breath and restore your soul and you are good to go so number one is living with ammuna and number two very briefly is those thoughts come knock you're lying in bed at night you're in the shower you're in a commute you're walking somewhere and those anxious thoughts they come knocking what if and what will be and what if it doesn't and you start to panic you know we have the ability to decide what thoughts we will let in and which thoughts we keep out just because the thought comes knocking doesn't mean we have to let it in we can keep that door closed we can keep it locked we just have to have the mindfulness to realize thought you can knock i'm not letting you take up valuable real estate in my head that's like i feel like uh that skill set to be able to keep that door locked is sort of like any other muscle that we have you need to work that muscle and you know i don't think anyone should get discouraged if you're not able to keep that door locked and every thought that comes to your mind walks right in it just means like you haven't worked that muscle you know like try using your toe muscle maybe it's very very weak you never worked it out like you have to you have to do how do you work that muscle a big old very how does someone another brain what are ways to like work on that discipline it's it's like any other muscle if you don't work it you don't use it it's going to atrophy and die but the more you flex it the more you use it flex in the positive sense not like the millennial kid sends but the more you use it then the healthier the stronger it becomes or it's going to hold you up so yeah it takes mindfulness takes consciousness right so something's happening and you start to panic going to miss the flight the thing is delayed the thing's not going to work out the technology didn't you know it collapsed it imploded and you start to panic and your blood pressure goes up and your pulse increases and your sweat glands are pumping and you start to think the world's coming to an end so it takes the mindfulness to reset and to come back and to remember now whatever's happening right now is what's meant to happen nothing is random nothing is chance it's all by design and therefore i just need to decide that even those thoughts are coming i can click that door closed i don't have to let them in trying to fall asleep at night replace them one of the ways to keep the door locked is to replace who's knocking on it so you won't hear the knocking if you're sitting with a guest who you welcomed in who you're so excited is there have some go-to thoughts that you go to that calm you have a happy place i i don't know i think a lot of people have while they're falling asleep while they're whatever they're those happy place that you go the thoughts that that come and relax you so when you're sitting with the guests who you welcome you're able to better ignore the guest who's trying to knock who you desperately don't want to allow beautiful okay we have another question here and i'm going to put it up on the screen if you have trouble doubting and having a relationship with hashem how do you happen to him um yeah that's an angel question that's like a five hour beginning of a conversation not these two minute allocation to me for these answers but i would say that dominating is hard it's a foreign language to most of us um and that hebrew is not even if we understand the hebrew it's not our first language not a natural language and the language of david malik is sometimes complicated poetry it's hard it's not our natural language but i think a lot of the struggles look in davening you can work hard to study the sitter to learn the sitter like a safer most people don't we have all kinds of magnificent books that come out and we read those books we learn those books but we forget that the sitter is also a safer so there's also a book that you could learn you could spend time on you can try to translate and understand and dissect and see different opinions about but all of that you know you take a sentence from the sitter and offer six different interpretations of what it means but you don't have a relationship with god you're not going to get anywhere it's all about a relationship with god if you do have a relationship with god then the center is just going to be the platform for you to be able to communicate that relationship hanging in my house my wife's grandmother her body allah i'm a holocaust survivor an amazing woman who lost her husband a child before the war remarried had one child my father-in-law she was a very very special woman so hanging in my house in a box frame is hurt to him hurt to him the pages are stoked with her tears her tail in the pages are worn out the words are almost worn out her telling the cover is falling off i'm pretty confident i don't say this to insult her i'm pretty confident she couldn't translate most of the paragraphs of telum if you asked her what these words meant i'm pretty sure she'd have no idea but you know what she did know that when she was saying them she was talking to the shepherd she was talking to the creator she was talking to someone who's very real her best friend in the world that she could confide in and talk to with no judgment who she could trust and was reliable who she could express gratitude she could object to and protest to when it didn't work out so i think a lot of the challenge we have with david is because we're an adhd generation dominic is not you know multimedia it's just a sitter the same words and we should invest time in understanding them but i think as much we need to invest time in developing a relationship with god and then we'll find the conversation will flow much better right i hear that so it's important to connect you have to connect first stay here you got to connect you got to be in a real relationship i'll tell you this if you never talk to god when you're not sure you're going to struggle to talk to god when you aren't sure if you never talk to god outside the sitter you're going to struggle to talk to god inside the sitter the most authentic daughter is the one we do in our heart you're in the car god make the light stay green help me find the parking spot we're at the supermarket you're putting the potato cooker in the oven you're putting together the dress shirt for shabbos you're walking into the courtroom the operating room the board room to make a deal whatever you're doing in life when you talk to god says wouldn't it be amazing if people died in the entire day so i forgot which rabbit is who interprets it doesn't mean wouldn't it be great if you could sit in schuler all day it means wouldn't it be great if before every activity you did before you go to the gym the supermarket work and sure you offer a little fila make the potato go go work out let the shopping trip go well let the technology for the instagram live tonight go smoothly and just incorporate talking to hashem in everything we do every time you got in the car not feel the saddara but every time you got in the car he said hashem let us get there safely let us get there smoothly let us get there quickly so it's talking to god all the time outside the center i think will help you talk to god inside the city talking to god outside of shuro will help you talk to god inside the show okay sarah k who asked that question if you have any follow-up feel free to to write it over here um but like you're moving on we have a very important question one i think that many people can relate to rosh hashanah happens every single year i find myself doubting for forgiveness for the same things every single year and i am kind of jaded the question sort of ends there i'll take it from there yeah it's a big problem that's the vortex from you know hashanah the racist hashanah was a beginning of the year to the year so the answer is the answer many give is gracious hashem at the beginning of review you say this is a year this is my year i'm going to finally do x not talk volunteer give stukka make it to school on time in davening be more patient with my children this is the year and then soon after showing him kipper sukis it's like any other year it's not the year so einstein's definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result so if every um you do the same thing over and over again which is saying the max we're clapping the alkane kipper but we're just doing the same thing over and over again we're insane if we think we get a different result so it's time to mix things up to do things a little bit differently try to change the habits of our life to break the habits in our life to take on realistic small bite-sized cabelas okay here's what i'm gonna do i'm gonna bench from adventure here's what i'm gonna do every time i feel ashamed of my life i'm gonna put it in a whatsapp group i'm gonna record it i'm gonna share it with someone close to me i'm gonna work on identifying and feeling hashem in my life whatever small kabbalah whatever small thing we accept upon ourselves you know if you say i'm gonna run 20 miles every single day and you've never run three steps then you set yourself up for failure but if you decide that you know i'm not uh you decide it's not that i'm gonna run a marathon on day one i'm just gonna take a few steps and then i'm going to jog and then i'm gonna run so i think doing the same thing over and over again expecting the result is insanity the question i have to ask ourselves is how am i gonna mix it up this year how do i set realistic expectations and goals and you know psf writes they look at psf now you come to mo he writes he says you know most people what they call goals are really wishes listen to this fun he says most people what they call goals are really wishes i wish i wake up tomorrow and i'm 20 pounds lighter i wish i wake up tomorrow and i'm more patient i wish i wake up tomorrow and i'm a millionaire i wish i wake up tomorrow and fill in the blank we claim it's a goal but really it's just a wish really we wish we could close our eyes and wake up and be that thing we want he says what's the difference between a goal and a wish is whether there's a resolution a resolution means here's how i'm going to do it here are the metrics to my success here are the accountability people in my life a spouse a friend children my rabbi my rebbe who are the accountability partners who i'm going to state my goal i'm going to make a resolution i'm going to have action item plan i'm going to have a timeline i'm going to have metrics to measure whether i'm succeeded or not peter drucker is a management guru says what gets measured gets managed so what happens we decide in elul and for rosh hashanah i'm changing everything these big bombastic major statements have changed and then we don't measure whether we've changed anything what gets measured gets managed if we don't measure we can't manage it we don't know if we're growing in it so don't do the same thing every year don't do the same thing over and over again make a commitment take a cabala don't just have a wish and a goal make a resolution with a plan how to achieve it do you find that that line what gets measured gets managed do you find that to be like ironclad i find it to be almost ironclad somebody who says i'm taking ten 000 steps a day and where's the fitbit or what apple watch or whatever they're wearing if they measure it they're going to see how many i i went through this phase didn't last very long you know you're looking at the end of the night you realize how many steps you're short you start walking around your house circles you look like a total because you said you know what i gotta i gotta hit my ten thousand steps right who hasn't been there so let's say you didn't wear that watch that fitbit and you had no idea how many steps but you just took upon yourself i mean how long would it last three days that you're gonna try to walk a lot and having no idea how much you've really walked so what gets measured gets managed you know i actually have a spreadsheet i talked about this in different contexts this is the way i am i'm like when i talk about things that's what will hold me accountable to make the changes some people around me wish i would share less a little bit less but i have a spreadsheet at the beginning of the summer i made certain commitments the beginning of the summer i was going to turn the notifications on my phone off on email and what's that i would delete social media from my phone and i made certain other commitments that i was going to try to work on over the summer and i have a spreadsheet now for 60 days every day that i fill out and i look at it in the end of every week there are averages how much did i really sleep at night take sleep we can't be healthy and we can't be our best selves if we're not getting enough so how many of us all of us know we need more sleep and we have all kinds of procrastination reasons of why we don't sleep enough but we make this promise this pledge this year this is my year six seven eight hours whatever it is you need enough sleep i'm gonna sleep but we fool ourselves we lie to ourselves but if you keep track if you measure how much sleep and then you average that week how much you got now you have something real to look at now you just want to talk to the rabbi writes that's to be out loud if the video if the confession were only in your heart it doesn't count when you say in your heart i need to work on a b and c you're not really confronting it you're not facing it when you say it out loud and you bring it into the world when you measure it by admitting it and confessing to it now you're confronting it and now you're much more likely to change it okay that's definitely a lot there that people can take and really grow from we're going to answer one or two more questions and then we'll wrap it up because we got so many more for next week that we gotta you know keep um there's so much to work on and there's so many things that are mentioned i watch a lot of shiram a lot of cabalas are mentioned what should i prioritize during the owner everybody has different lives everybody has different things they need to work on everything everyone has different things that naturally come easily to them and other things that are much much harder so i think there's a good generic answer but three dimensions we live in simultaneously we are in a relationship we are in a relationship with hashem we are in a relationship with other people and we are in a relationship in other lots more with ourselves right every time you see the number three right three ways three three ways the world stands three things are moving from the world three this three that it's always those three things between a person themselves which is the most neglected dimension we live in interpersonal with others between us and god so maybe this time of year everyone's different everyone has to figure out what works for them but a kabbalah take upon something in each of those three dimensions what will i work on between me and god what will i work on between me and man what will i work on between me so example between me and myself is getting enough sleep eating right actually exercising time management between me and others is being more patient gossiping less being more generous between me and god is saying bracha's being mindful when i talk to him when i dive into him outside the center so i think if someone took something out in all three realms that's a really great start okay beautiful i'm just going to pick one more question from this list that people sent in um here we go advice for relating to friends and relatives who are otd and have anti-from attitudes yeah advice related to friends and relatives are off the derrick event from attitudes my my thing is love love love love love the people who are off the tariff and there are no simple answers in many cases it's not a philosophical argument that if you get into it you're going to win if you start debating god's existence god's role in their life don't you know you have to be fruitful you know you're going to burn what's going to happen to you if you're not from i don't know that anyone ever became firm for those reasons you know shalom and others said nobody ever started to keep shabbos because the rock was thrown at their car when talking about the rocks being thrown into cars nobody ever started keep shabbos a rock went through their windshield like you know what i should talk about so people don't come back on the derath terrac because someone was judgmental or dismissive critical of them or because somebody excluded them i think they come back on because there's a space for them there's warmth and there's love that doesn't mean we accept every decision doesn't mean we have to love every behavior every lifestyle we can love people without loving their decisions and without loving their lifestyle and to me that's the key thing when someone's off the dara first of all what is the derek there are many there are many paths in life our goal is to try to steer people and to stay on the path ourselves but i think the best way to bring people on is to show them love shower them with love this isn't me what do i know again many many great rabbis great gadoli israel told people who came to them the answer is not to sit and shiver for them the answer is not to push them out or exclude them the answer is love them love them more that's your job not hate them and not judge them love them more again i think it's important to communicate we can love people without loving that that's where it gets to be a fine line because we have people who are not observant who are making lifestyle choices that we don't love and there are people who fear well if i love them aren't they going to conclude that i also condone their lifestyle the answer is no people are understand they're sophisticated they're nuanced they can comparmentalize and they realize that you can love them without loving well just like people love us when they don't love all of our choices all of our lifestyle and i think that's the that's the goal that's the message to communicate it's probably super important to separate people from their actions sometimes absolutely absolutely yeah but that was uh it says right we we dive in that we get rid of the world not the sinners of the world we're not trying to destroy or obliterate the sinners we're trying to remove the sins so we can love people even while we don't love all of their actions and behaviors that's what i you know unfortunately increasingly even within the orthodox community i have people who come to me whose children or grandchildren are marrying out or into marrying and there's that big question to go to their wedding not go to the wedding how do i relate do i acknowledge their spouse do i bring them in and the message i always try to get across is to find that balance between loving them loving them even more than ever letting them feel more loved than ever but also maintaining your principles that you don't have to love their actions and people i think who feel that the love is genuine genuine can understand that we don't have to love one another's actions i'll tell you the truth you don't have to go off to derek or marrying out there are people who are living through a very hard time divisive time right now people who are vaccinated unvaccinated mask no mask different schools different schools different decisions different people sometimes it's hard to remember you know that doesn't that's not the whole person my entire relationship doesn't have to be defined by their attitude to corona or my attitude to corona we're allowed to have a relationship where that's one part of it and please god it'll be one that's gone hopefully soon the car of quickly and and we could have important disagreements about it and principal disagreements about it but it's only one part of the relationship we have i can love you even if i don't love the choices you're making in this area i think that's such a just how i feel like throughout covent i feel like there's been so much division between pro-vaccine anti-vaccine pro-mass anti-mass and it's gotten so out of hand what you're suggesting is that that doesn't really need to define your relationship with somebody you don't need to just like obviously it's not the same someone likes the color blue and you hate the color blue that can't just derail your relationship some would say what do you mean someone doesn't wear a mask they obviously don't care about other people's health and if they don't care about other people's health then i don't want to be friends with them i imagine that's the rationalization that people make that's exactly what's going on first of all other people say i can never trust their judgment again i learned so much about them over these two years of the pandemic they're not who i thought they were um you know there were people we thought were crazy turns out they're normal the people they thought were normal it turns out they're crazy and they're people who are neither they're just different than we are and i have very strong feelings believe me and i don't think we either of us want to talk about this right now i've shown feelings on what's right and what we can do to put this whole thing in the rear view mirror but i have to sometimes actively make that choice to remember i loved this person before corona members of family members of a shul i admire i love them i feel so connected to them i'm not going to um punish myself by not having a relationship because of this one aspect can i can i give i don't know if it's a t4 or a flex i'm still confused the difference between two but on the honor behind the bmw with mariana rivera the great new york hall of fame yankee closer he answered one of the questions was when you play boston that rivalry do you carry it off the field he gave such a great answer to it and he said on the field we fight with everything we've got we want to destroy each other we want to beat each other we want to win because but do you know that after the game we got for dinner or the game we go grab lunch he said i got great friends from the boston red sox aside from the fact that he also spoke about it's just a game but his point was you could have a rivalry on the things to disagree about you have to be able to put that down and put it aside and then go out for dinner and then have the friendship afterwards and i think we've got to learn that in politics uh somebody one of the commentators writing that right now we got to learn that in politics we've got to learn that in covet policies we've got to learn that in hashkafa and from kite these things matter not minimizing these differences are important and we can talk about another time because i know we're out of time tonight what should you do when your loved one is intermarrying do you go to the wedding not go to the wedding that's maybe a good teaser question for another time i'm not saying you go to the wedding i'm not suggesting you go to the wedding we could talk more about that but i am suggesting that outside of the wedding the whole relationship doesn't have to be summarized by that one component of the relationship amazing we got to so many great questions tonight and i'm sure over the week many people who joined us tonight are going to be watching this afterwards are going to be like whoa i have questions because these are such good answers so every thursday night everyone who's here make sure to tune back in we will mr save this live you'll be able to watch it on our igtv if you haven't watched the behind the bema episode from last night with mariano rivera i highly suggest go ahead and check that out it's a really great episode that's a flex it's a t4 it's all the above um you'll find that right right from goldberg is a huge red sox fan in the first few minutes anyways guys go ahead and check that out um thank you so much robert goldberg i'm very excited about this series i hope there's many many more of these to come naki thank you for hosting me it's a lot of fun i love the off the cuff and i hope people will if you know people want to continue i hope they'll ask whatever's on their mind it could be in any area i don't have all the answers but i'm happy to share some thoughts and continue the conversation so thank you so much for putting this together thank you so much all right have everyone have a great night and a great travis thank you