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from Boca Raton, Florida. This is Behind
the Beimma. On this episode, the rabbis
are joined by special guest Congressman
Jared Moscowitz, US Representative for
Florida's 23rd Congressional District.
Congressman Moscowitz opens up about his
unwavering support for Israel, even when
it means breaking party lines. He
reflects on his family's Holocaust
legacy, his Jewish identity, and the
deep moral clarity that drives his
advocacy for the Jewish people. With a
combination of honesty, humor, and
urgency, he shares what it's like to be
a pro-Israel voice in Congress at a time
when anti-semitism is on the rise across
college campuses and within political
discourse. Plus, an inside look at the
complexities of navigating
bipartisanship in Washington. Why social
media is a double-edged sword and what
it means to be Jewish in public life
today. All this and more behind the
Beimma.
Welcome back behind the beimma joined by
my dear friends and colleagues at least
one will continue to be a colleague
Rabbi Philip Mosqu and Rabbi Joshua
Brody also continue
we will continue forever a friend
forever lifetime lifetime contract the
countdown begun Brody till the alias the
packing started no because oh you know
what this is breaking news I wasn't
allowed to start on May 10th which would
have been a 100 days because it was
Aigal's birthday, but now it's May 13th,
so I guess that's 97 days. It's
official. Well, you'reowed. I don't I
don't even understand what you just
said, but okay. But you're allowed to
start packing now. Yeah, because I I
wasn't allowed to steal her thunder.
It's her birthday, and I can't start a
100 day countdown on her birthday. So,
Got it. That sounds good. But we have,
for those who don't know, Bookeron
Synagogue, the most pro-Israel shul in
the diaspora is three of our senior
staff members are making aliyah this
summer. the Brodies, the Barnes, and the
Gold Grabs are fulfilling the Jewish
dream and bringing their talents to
Israel and represents a huge transition
and turnover for us, but one that we're
happy to have if it means that our
senior staff are contributing to the
Jewish future by moving to Israel. So,
uh it's exciting exciting little
stressful time here, but exciting there.
And uh we are in only admiration and awe
of our beloved. But we know you're going
to be back, Rabbi Brody, a lot seeing
you. Yeah, you won't. You're going to
tell me stay go back. We're going to
stay in Israel a little longer.
Yeah. Tell us about your future. Well,
I'll tell you, it's a little un unsure
right now because we don't have a place
to move into yet. And we also don't I
don't know that we have a a confirmation
on the flight yet. And what I just heard
last night from some others, there is
basically one, they're all exciting
flights. Like everyone that wants to go
to Israel, even if you fly by yourself,
but if you're on like one of the ma
major neffesh flights, you want to be on
the best one, which is like the biggest
one. And supposedly there are a lot of
people trying to get on that flight
right now. So you're not you had any
connections to nephesh benefish that you
No. That's obviously very clear, but
like I just, you know, maybe this gets
into a whole another discussion of do
you use connections and gifts, gifts?
That's a great qu it's a great question
because you're not allowed to bribe and
you're not supposed to, you know,
Israel, you better start to get used to
it because Israel runs with protects you
and um I once gave a series of shirum
here of classes on that topic and there
is hakic literature on that question. If
you have access to somebody, let's say
you have a loved one who needs an organ
transplant and you have access to the
person running the registry, can you get
your person more towards the top of the
list? Or getting your child to enter
school. There was a scandal in America a
couple years ago of very prominent, very
wealthy people who were essentially
buying their children's way into Ivy
League universities, if you remember
that scandal. But but it's really no
different. You know, we had Ben Brothman
recently speak at our shul. It was a
great weekend. We're grateful to him for
it. and and his sons in Ramadan skull
inim is harder to get into probably than
all the Ivy Leagues combined and you
know a lot of yeshivas and seminaries if
a person makes a meaningful cont I'm not
saying his if a person makes a
meaningful contribution you know that
also changes some equations because
people also need to keep the lights on
so it is a great question of of what's
the appropriateness or or morality or
ethics of using connections
cutting lines through those connections
protects you to get ahead or have
special treatment or favors is a sort of
if you have it, use it or even if you
have it, don't use it because it's
wrong. It's a good question. You know,
it's interesting. I remember reading JD
Vance's autobiography, Hillbilly Elegy.
And one of the things he points out was
until he went to Yale, he never
understood the concept of using
connections to get further in life. Like
where he grew up, you just, you know,
you didn't know anybody, so you had no
access and you had no connections. And
all of a sudden he goes to Yale and he
starts getting invited to these fancy
things and this guy is introducing him
to this friend and this guy knows
someone on Wall Street and all of a
sudden like a whole world opens up to
him and he said I never knew that so
much of where you can go in life is
dependent on who you know and I laughed
a little bit because as I was reading
that I was like it's called kittish. In
other words, like we grew up with that
mindset like it was understood that you
go to kesh on a shabas morning and you
know people you know doctors you know
lawyers you know people in finance and
and no matter what industry or no matter
what you needed access to you were
always one two degrees of separation
from that person or from having access
to that and I don't I wonder if it's
just like a culture that we take for
granted because of the insularity of our
communities. For sure it is. And and
that's why Jews are never satisfied with
their local doctor or hospital. They
look up who we have whole organizations
that help refer who's the best and then
how we can get you in there even though
they won't see anyone for six months.
Right. Right. Yeah. I get now is that so
different than some of the news taking
place because there's a major news issue
right now where our president is being
gifted a plane from the Qatari
government and there's a lot of
discussion about the ethics and the
morality of that. Um where do you draw
the line with that? Also that's
obviously occurring favors. They're
gifting something to the president. one
would assume that there always going to
be strings attached with a gift like
that. Um, is that different? Do do you
view the ethics of that differently than
Rabbi Brody using his, you know,
position and his access to be able to
get onto a better Neffish benefic? What
do you think, Brody? Well, first of all,
I'm not, let's just be clear. There's no
money changing hands between me and
Neph. That's number one. There's no
millions of dollars and there's no new
name. But they are getting the probably
the number one advocate for Aliyah in
the world. That's uh the most exciting
Jew in the world is going to be taking
that flight. So that's an very exciting
moment for for Nefish Benevich, but
we'll see if that works out. But uh I
would and I would say that's not a
bribe. Meaning let's say Neesh Benefish,
let's say our dear friends who who run
it determine to themselves, Rabbi Josh
Broy's got a big social media presence
and he likes to publicize and share
whatever he's doing. So giving him a
spot on that plane will help nephe
elevate its brand, advance it. Let's
just be clear, most of that following is
in his head.
But it's not doesn't have to be reality.
Rabbi Brody, you could call a press
conference for when you land. I will.
Yeah. All three. So, we were talking
about this. My mom will be there. Why
don't you tell people what that
references to because that was really
one of the all-time great Rabbi Brody
moments. It was my first That was an
historic event. Yeah, but that's the
whole point. He said, "You guys are
missing the point. It has nothing to do
with who was in the room." And I'll tell
you something. Not only is it not about
who's in the room, but it did get a few
hundred video looks. I mean, again,
today that's not so exciting, I guess,
but 400 views, a few hundred views. But
there was actually one person that saw
it. I'll tell you offline. I don't want
to tell you who it was, but there was
one person that saw it that actually got
me a job because of that. They were so
impressed. They did not know that no one
was in the audience. Just for our
listeners, Rabbi Brody when he started
an outreach organization, threw himself
a press conference, taped microphones to
the Beimma, to the Stender and the
Beimma with nobody in the room and
pretended like there was question,
right? Answer questions from the
fictitious audience. Answering
questions. Correct. He was a gift from
ABC News. Fake news. Not only that, but
I still have the sign that I put in
front. I have I still have it in It's
actually behind the Beimma. It's in my
Beimma. It's in my Anyway, so the point
is that a guy a guy like you who's
willing to do that is well worth giving
a spot. But that's not right. I don't
think that's using protect you or a
favor. You'd basically be making the
argument for this is why it's worth it's
worthwhile. It's worthwhile. It's that's
why this is a very very very gray area
receiving gifts. Not all gifts are the
same. Sometimes someone's giving a gift
out of genuine appreciation and for you
to reject it is to is to be ungracious
to not accept the gift of somebody who's
appreciative. Other times, sometimes
people get disappointed when they're not
getting gifts. Every week that I don't
bring flowers on them, I hear about it.
Some people expect a gift. Other people,
you know, sometimes gifts are coming
with very big strings or chains or whips
that the that the gift is has certain
expectations of what's going to be
coming on the other side. So, not all
gifts are equal and not all protect is
equal. You know, when we when we see
there's a long line, let's say to get
into the Shai Robbo concert at BRS,
meaning to get through security, to get
through the door, and then you see
somebody who's made a significant
contribution to our capital campaign,
you say, "Come here, come here come
through my office. Don't wait on this
line. Let me take you to your seat." So,
you know, is that right, wrong, is it is
it fair? Is it Yeah, don't worry. You
could just sit in you could sit in Rabbi
Brody's seat. Hold on. I want I want to
just clarify that also because And let's
say there's somebody else on that long
line who hasn't given one penny but
gives endless amount of their time.
There's a Gabby who's here. Let's say
you see our friend Stuart all morning,
all night. Gabby balor volunteers to
give bavly daff shami daf. You say,
"Come here. Come here. All that you do
for the show. Don't wait on this line.
Come here. Come through my office." I
don't I don't want to make it about
money because not everybody could give
money. But let's say there's someone
else who does selflessly an enormous
amount and so you pull them in. So
there's a lot of gray and protect the
ethics of protectia, the ethics of gift
giving, the ethics of gift receiving.
No, for sure. And as you said, not all
gifts are created equal. you know a lot
of times and I'm very appreciative when
you come back from Australia you'll find
a safer in a store you'll inscribe a
beautiful inscription and those farm are
very meaningful to me so I don't think
there are strings attached I don't think
that you know you're doing it for all I
think it's just a nice gesture and um
you know sometimes that's like that's
just an act of friendship I think in
other cases where as you said they're
not just strings but they are chains and
whips attach attached that's when it
becomes uh extremely problematic I know
a r in New York who um got so frustrated
because every time he went into a
restaurant um when he went to pay
someone always covered his bill and it
bothered him so much. He said, you know,
the gar is
explicit that you're supposed to not
you're supposed to run away from gifts.
And he said, I just I was very
uncomfortable that I couldn't take my
family out like that. And so he only
started going to restaurants. He made
the matra promise that they would not
take a credit card from anyone else and
that they would only let him pay. And
that was just something that he was
comfortable with. It was a frustration
of his. He wanted his kids to see a
different value system and um you know
so there there's a world out there also
of those types of experiences. Yeah, I
don't see it like that. I see it a very
different in a diff different way. I
think
that again let's just talk about rabbis
and we talk about good rabbis, rabbis
that really are sincere and work hard
and if people want to take care of them
and those rabbis want to then in turn
return the favor. I think that's that's
the way the world operates. I think that
there are people that care and then you
care back. We take I I will take care of
people that take care of me. That's
that's I I don't take care of everybody.
But I will give special attention to I
take care of people even if they don't
take care of me. In other words, but I
do that also. But I will take extra
extra care. I give you a little extra
because you know what? You went out of
your way for me. I'm going to go out of
my way for you. Listen, I think as you
were saying, there's a different there
are gifts and there are gifts, right? So
you could be at a restaurant and there's
someone there you did a lot for whether
there's sim or their sad time or
counseling or help or a little extra
love or attention and you know and they
notice your family and they send over an
appetizer, a dessert, a bottle of wine
and it's their way of saying thank you
which is very lovely and it makes you
feel validated. It makes you feel good.
I don't there's anything wrong with
that. You know if there's somebody there
who wants something from you right?
there's someone there who's been chewing
off your ear about why you need to do X
Y and Z or give them the business or
make a connection for them and all of a
sudden you know your your bill is paid
or there's you know three huge stakes
that are served and you understand that
they're simply prepaying for something
that they want in return. So
everything's different. Now I I
mentioned to you before that as as one
of the chairs of the RB of our cash I
don't take free things in restaurants
you know from the restaurant. Um I was
recently in a place and they said you
know oh take that you know it was a
counter service. Oh take this one for
free it's on us. I said I I I can't do
that because my name is on the
certificate and it can't be it wouldn't
be questionable. The truth is there's so
many layers between the actual
supervision of the kashras and and where
we are. But I don't want it ever ever
ever ever an accusation or suspicion
that oh the rabbis let that slide
because they got freebies or the rabbis
gave a warning and didn't withdraw it
because they get something out of it. So
circumstances are different and and
that's true and this is a good segue to
our guest Congressman Jared Moscow. our
congressmen is the reason that there are
very strict ethical rules for elected
officials. They're not allowed to take
gifts over like I don't know it's $10
like a very very very small amount
unless it's an airplane unless it's
going to go to your library before the
end of your term which is somehow some
legal loophole which whether it's legal
or not is a bad look and and probably
more than just bad luck. You know I'm
I'm building a library also so if anyone
wants to give me anything it's going in
my library. Your library. You don't even
know where you're living yet, but you
know you have a library. That's good. I
have a library. That's good. Congressman
Jared Moscowitz had big shoes to fill.
Our previous congressman, Ted Deutsch,
was enormously pro-Israel and a dear
friend of our community. When when he
met with me when he was running for
office, he actually said, I hope it's
okay to say this. He said to me, "I'm a
much less nice Ted Deutsch. I'm Ted
Deutsch, but less nice." Which he said
with pride. Um, and what he meant by
that is, uh, because Ted's an
extraordinarily nice guy and Jared
Moscow is also a nice guy, but he meant
you're not going to lose anything on the
pro-Israel, what you're looking for and
and the loyalty to the community and the
Jewish community and what you want. He's
like, you know, I'm I'm less softer. I
have a little edge, which he does, and
he's and he's great. The truth is, he's
been he's we've needed that. You know,
he's gone on talk shows, he's gone on uh
media, and he's been, you know, he's
been harsh when he needed to be, and
he's pushed back when he needed to be
and blunt when he needed to be. And
that's what the Jewish community needed
right now. Yeah. And we're grateful and
we're super proud. And and I'll tell you
this also, you know, it happens to not
be true with him or Ted, but in other
cases, relevant to our our previous
conversation, you know, we host elected
officials, we help elected officials
because, you know, if we believe in
their in their agenda, then we want to
see them in office and be able to
execute on it. But those relationships
are really also important. Like the same
person might be critical of of one of
us. Why' they have to fly to Washington
or why' they participate in that thing
or why' they go to that thing? And then
their child needs a passport or someone
they know can't get a visa or they need
an immigration issue or they need
something. They're like, "Do can you
call the congressman's office?" Well, do
you have a relationship with the
congressman? when you call the
congressman's office, does he remember
the platform you gave him, the
fundraiser that was hosted, the audience
he had among constituents and and
voters, you know, and will will he put
you towards the top of that line to help
get things done for your congregant? Or
has he never heard of you? You never met
him, you never done anything for him,
and so he's just one of the many many
many constituents and you'll wait your
turn. So all these things are
complicated and gray when they're to our
advantage and we need them. all of a
sudden they feel ethical when when
they're not, you know, then then we're
we're skeptical and a person should
tread lightly because they are very very
Here's one thing that's not great is
that he has a wonderful last name.
He has a decent last name and he is a
very good person and a great advocate
for Israel. You just figured that out,
Rabbi Broady. And a great advocate for
Israel. A great advocate for I had a
look at the uh banner. What was it? And
this was a great conversation which
we're excited to bring you. So without
any further ado, our congressman whom to
whom we're so grateful and about whom we
are so proud, Congressman Jared
Moscowitz. We are honored to go behind
the beimma with our very own
congressman, one of if not the most
pro-Israel congressman member of
Congress, Jared Moscowitz. Congressman,
thank you for being with us. It's great
to see you again. Good to be with you
guys. So let's let's just jump right in.
Rabbi and Rabbi, that's it. That works.
Rabbi squared. Perfect. But only one of
us has the right last name here. True.
Fair enough. Although Goldberg is like
right there, right? We got We got the
generic Goldberg and then we got the two
Moscowitzes. So, we've got the Jewish
thing
covered. So, Congressman, let's let's
jump right in with um with I think
what's on people's minds when they see
you and your activism and the voice that
we're so incredibly grateful for. And I
want to say we are amazingly proud that
you are our congressman. uh proud and
also grateful. I remember when you were
first running and we met and um you
know, you talked about your your
pro-Israel background and support and
where you're coming from and I knew it
and I believed it and I'd heard about it
from from other people, but you've far
surpassed it in terms of your your voice
and it's not always easy. I think what
makes it even unusual and and it's not
an exaggeration, heroic is your
willingness sometimes to go against
party lines, to be nonpartisan, to take
on certain risks, to continue to express
your pro-Israel voice. Where does that
come from? What are those calculations?
Do you feel you've you've lost anything
or in any way you've been compromised um
by by needing to do that sometimes?
Well, I mean, look, obviously my you
know, my grandmother was part of the
Kinder Transport out of Germany. Her and
her sister were, you know, put on a
train and and shipped out of Berlin. Her
parents were killed in Awitz. Her
husband, my grandfather, was the sole
survivor from the Pgrams in Poland. He
lost everybody, aunts, uncles, cousins,
nephews. He only told me the story one
time uh growing up. Uh I mean, on my
dad's side, uh everyone got out of
Czechoslovakia thankfully in time. Um,
so obviously there's a rich history
there of what happens when, you know,
Jews become the pariah, the scapegoat of
of society and and when when systems of
government fail. Uh, and so, you know, I
didn't think uh that I would come to
Congress and this would be a seminal
issue for me. I mean, Ted Deutsch and I
always discussed this, how, you know,
when he eventually was done, someone
pro- Israel should fill the seat. has a
rich history from from Ted from before
him to Robert Wexer. Uh Ron Klein had
this district uh you know before
redistricting pieces of it. Uh and so I
understood that that history but you
know look I have a background in
emergency management. Uh and so when
October 7th happened you know for me
that was it's an emergency. This is
emergency time and it's time to go out
and respond. Um, and so, you know, even
though I was doing pro-Israel stuff and
working on anti-semitism before October
7th, I mean, you're talking that was the
first 10 months of me in my first term,
right? And so, it was obvious that uh we
needed a voice, not just someone who
would vote for the issues. There's
plenty of people in Congress that vote
our way, but there's not many people
that are willing to go to the camera and
communicate uh and not equivocate,
right? Um, you know, look, Israel
doesn't do 100% everything correct.
Neither does the United States. Neither
does any country. But the double,
triple, quadruple standard that Israel
has to deal with, that the Jewish people
have to deal with, uh where is where I
was going to draw uh the red line. And
so, look, yeah, I have to take on my own
party from time to time. There are
elements in my party that are growing
clearly that are uh anti-Israel and
anti-semitic. This idea that you can be
anti-ionist without being anti-semitic.
I would say you could. They're just not.
Um and and you know then after October
7th we saw the anti-semitism in this
country on college campuses. We saw you
know college after college failed to
enforce their code of conduct. Jewish
parents around this country knew that if
it was a black student, a Latino student
or or an LGBT uh uh Q student, you know,
then at the end of the day, this
wouldn't have gotten past lunchtime on
the first day. But for Jewish students,
you know, we were confused. Do we
enforce the code of conduct? Um, and
yeah, I worked across the aisle. Uh,
whether that was with Mike Lawler uh on
Iran with the ships act, whether that
was Elise Stefonic uh after we saw those
college presidents fail, Alisa Stefanic
and I did the resolution putting
Congress on the board on whether those
those college presidents should be fired
and more than twothirds of Congress said
that they should. Um, and so, look, I'll
work with anybody uh on this issue. Uh,
I went to, you know, Israel with Ronda
Santis when I worked with him. You know,
I went to Israel with, uh, Speaker
McCarthy, uh, while he was speaker. Uh,
and I've gone several times obviously
with my Democratic colleagues. And so,
look, right now, uh, you know, the
Jewish people, not just the situation in
Israel in the Middle East, the Jewish
people, uh, are are, you know, facing
really the worst times we've seen since
the Holocaust. And I'm not comparing the
two. They're not comparable, but the the
the leadup to it, and quite frankly, the
only thing the right and the left agree
on in this country is they don't like
Jews. They get there different ways,
right? The right has a white nationalist
isolationist
uh you know, issue uh and the left has
an anti-Israel
uh uh issue. And so, you know, both of
them right now, you're seeing growing
sentiments on the right and the left.
So, look, it's easy for me to go yell at
Marjgery Taylor Green and the
isolationists that want to cut off
foreign aid Israel, and I will do that,
but it's also it's much harder obviously
to yell at the elements in my party. Um,
I'd like to see some more of my
colleagues on the right call out their
own colleagues. I'm doing it on the
left, as are Josh Godheimer, Richard
Torres, and others. I'd like to see some
of my colleagues on the right call out
Marjorie Taylor Green and Thomas Massie.
That's fair. That's a very fair thing.
That's But I just want to follow up. Are
the are the concerns for your party
exaggerated? They're seeing the drop of
support for Israel among the Democrats.
Is that a genuine concern? Is there
something we should be doing about it?
Is it exaggerated? Is it political that
there are these concerns? Why do you
think it's happening? And what could or
should we be doing about it? Well,
here's what I would say. I'm going to
give you two answers because they're
both true. And you know, people who care
about this should know both. Okay. The
situation on the left is much bigger
than than we think it is. It's big.
Okay. It and it and it is rooted in
being anti-ionist, anti-Israel. Okay.
There's no doubt about it. You know,
we've lost a lot of young kids because
of Tik Tok and what the Chinese and the
Russians and the Iranians have fed the
propaganda online. They've been fed this
lie that there's a genocide going on,
right? That Israel is an apartheite
state. All of these racial, you know,
all this racial language that they've
been taught about what other countries
have done, you know, and and and they're
teaching kids through through that vein.
So, the next crop of candidates you're
going to see on the left are are mostly
going to be anti-Israel. Um, and so as
these more senior members are retiring
or not running for re-election, I'm
concerned about uh who's going to come
behind that. So, there is a major
problem on the left. No question about
it. I will not downplay it. Okay? We
have to try to control its spread. Um,
at the same time, I will tell you the
problem on the right is being
downplayed. Okay? People think, "Oh, no,
there isn't this." No, no. The right is
is very pro-Israel. I will tell you that
the JD Vance wing of the party wants to
cut off all aid to Israel. They're
against all foreign aid and they don't
exempt Israel uh from that. Uh they are
also softer on Iran. You're seeing that
now with, you know, Witoff and Vance
with trying to figure out how to appease
Iran. This is the time to put maximum
pressure on Iran. Look, I didn't vote
for Trump, okay? I'm not a Trump
supporter, but I had thought that when
he had come in, we were going to see
Trump be Trump be tougher on Iran than
he would be on Greenland, tougher on
Iran than he would be on Canada. Okay?
And and yet we're negotiating. Well,
what's the negotiate? They they either
dismantle their nuclear program or we
should do it for them. Those are the
choices. And that's how Trump talks. Uh
and yet we're not seeing that. we're
seeing, you know, maybe there's a deal
and that is this wing of the MAGA
movement, uh, that, you know, wants to
be an isolationist, wants to withdraw
from the world. Uh, and every time we
withdraw from the world, China comes in
with their friend Russia. Uh, and so,
look, this is not just about Israel. A
nuclear Iran would destabilize the
Middle East. It would be a threat to the
United States. We can't just withdraw
and say, "Oh, there's a big beautiful
ocean uh, be between us." Okay? Okay. It
was a mistake to allow a nuclear North
Korea, let alone a nuclear Iran in the
most dangerous neighborhood uh in the
world. It would be existential for
Israel. Um and once it happens, it can't
go back. Then the Saudis are going to
want nuclear weapons, right? And then
we're going to have this this this rush
to to to nuclear weapons in the area.
And so, look, I'm right now, it seems
like I'm to the right of the Trump
administration on what to do with Iran.
If I could just follow up with with what
you were saying, you we spoke about the
fringe on the left and the fringe on the
right and you spoke about a lot of what
you're doing in terms of reaching across
the party lines. What about the middle?
Right. I'm a student of Apac and I
fundamentally believe that the more
bipartisan support Israel has in
America, the stronger Israel is. And
just reading the news, it's so bombastic
now. It's so divisive now that you get
like a very depressing sense that Israel
has become a wedge issue. that that
bipart that overwhelming bipartisan
support that we used to enjoy is now
withering away. Is that the case or is
the center holding strong and Israel
does still have that strong bipartisan
support that we hope that they have?
Listen, I would say twothirds of
Congress uh is in that group you're
talking about, strong supporters of
Israel. But yeah, look, there's, you
know, there's, you know, 40 me 50
members on my side of the aisle at any
time and there's probably 10 or 12 on
their side, uh, at any time. And and
those numbers are growing, right? What I
said the other day, I was at an APAC and
I said what I said is the the growing
anti-Israel sentiment that exists in
both parties, the Democrats are just
ahead, right? it started earlier, so
they're ahead where the Republicans are
just starting now because of this
isolationist wing uh of of the party.
And so, yeah, the the numbers are bigger
on the Democratic side. You see that
also in the Senate, by the way. I think
you had 17 uh senators, Democratic
senators vote to cut aid off uh to to
Israel. And and and so, you know, like
this is a problem. This is a growing
problem. It used to be a bipartisan
issue, and what Apac is doing is trying
to keep it a bipartisan issue. Israel
cannot become a partisan issue. Uh but
everything is becoming partisan. Even
FEMA and disaster aid, right, is now now
partisan. So everything is going there.
You know, if Trump touches something,
Democrats have to be against it. Um and
so all of that is being caught up uh
caught up in this. And so look, I think
what Apac is doing is dramatically
important, which is trying to slow the
spread of all of this. Yes, it's great
to take out members in the House, but
also you got to stop if you take out two
and 10 more come, what did you really
accomplish? So, you got to stop people
from getting there. Uh, you got to win
elections. Uh, and look, I think the
dramatic part of the country and
Congress is in the middle. They're just
quiet. They're just quiet. And that's
why people going to the microphone and
communicating on this is more important
now than even voting uh our direction
because politics is all about comms.
It's all about communications,
especially in Congress, which doesn't do
much anymore. Congressman, tell us um a
little bit more about you and and why
you went into this. You know, when you
said that that last comment, Congress
doesn't do much anymore. Not that long
ago, it was exciting to meet a
congressman. I can only imagine to be a
congressman. Today, the politics has so
much, you know, whe what whether you
call Washington the swamp or whatever
language you use, it's not as I don't
know if it's prestigious, prominent, and
yet here you are a public servant.
You've dedicated your life and in a
refreshing way, one of the things I
admire about you and you alluded to it
earlier is in our great state of
Florida, you were dealing with disaster
relief. You worked handinand with
Governor Dantis across an aisle, maybe
disagreeing with enormous amount
politically, but finding the common
ground and getting things done. And
you're just common sense on a lot of
these things from Israel and and
everything else. So, you know, we get to
know you a little bit. You're definitely
active on social media. I enjoy your
sense of humor on Twitter. You've been
some cutting edge. Couple times you had
to walk it back a little bit. I guess
that's part of the learning curve and
the learning process of of politics and
being a a public figure. But tell us a
little bit about you and what drives you
to be doing this at this time and at
this point you could be continuing a
career in something else much more
lucrative maybe with even more
satisfaction. Why are you dedicating
your life to Congress? Well, look, as
you know, rabbis, right, sometimes you
tell jokes, they don't always land
right. Uh but but yeah, I'm trying to to
bring sarcasm and humor to the process
because I think yelling and screaming
just doesn't work. I don't think it
breaks through. There's so much anger uh
in in Washington. And I don't I don't
want to bring it through anger. I want
to bring it through, you know, pointing
out something that is, you know, that I
disagree with, but doing it in in in a
more upbeat, humorous way rather than
just doom and gloom and pounding the
table and screaming you're you're this,
you're that, you know, and furthering
the divide. Um, you know, even when I
attack Republicans and I do it in a more
upbeat way, they come over to me and
they're like, "You're that was really
good. That was very funny." Right? even
even when it's at their own expense, you
know, but when I see other people scream
and yell at them, they don't ever speak,
right? That that that that shuts down
the debate. And so that's really the
tact. Uh and look, Twitter is Twitter,
right? I mean, X is X. It's not real
life. It's it's it's it's meant it's
meant for that. Everyone's playing that
game there. You communicate differently
there than you you do uh in Congress or
in real life. Wh why am I doing this?
Look, I've been doing this since I was
25 years old. that got elected when I
was a law student to my local uh you
know city commission. It's just
something I grew up grew up with. My dad
instilled these things in me, you know.
I believe in in in government. That
doesn't mean government is always great
or right or government can't be smaller
or spend less money, you know, but but I
believe in government. I believe in
institutions. It's what separates us
from the rest of the world. And and you
know, I would just rather be at the
table than on the menu. Uh and so, you
know, I'd rather be, you know, in the
arena than watching from the sidelines.
And so, look, I don't know, maybe at
some point in my life. I will go back to
the private sector, uh, which I was
doing when I did this, you know,
part-time. But, yeah, look, I I I think,
you know, only politics, politics is the
only business where working together is
a bad thing. Everywhere else, business,
life, dealing with your kids, you got to
compromise. You got to figure out how to
coexist. But in politics, no. No,
coexistence is the you it's the
opposite, right? You you you actually um
you're incentivized to divide, to hate,
you know, getting people foaming out of
the mouth. That's where the money is.
That's where the excitement is, right?
There's no be like, "Let's make a deal."
Where does that exist? Um I I try to do
it because I I think that's where the
majority of America is. Again, they're
just quiet while both sides are, you
know, are are arguing with each other.
And I I just think it's important. Um
So, how do you shield and protect
yourself? Right. I hear from a lot of
people doom scrolling. They're on X all
the time. They're scrolling through
whatever their media source is. And the
news is always bad because good news
doesn't sell. So, it's always going to
be bad and it's always at the stock
market. That started with the local
news, right? The local news was always
bad and this person was shot. There was
a car accident local and then it went
national and now it's in social media.
And so, yeah, all right. So, it's around
us all the time, especially for you
also. You're surrounded by it. And I'm
sure on X, you know, 99% of the people
love you, but maybe 1% don't. And let
you know that was a joke. I wish those
were the statistic, you know. How do you
protect yourself? How do you protect
your sense of optimism? You say you like
to keep it light, but it's so easy to to
lose faith when everything around you is
doom and gloom. So, how do you protect
yourself from that negative news
coverage all around? Well, a couple
things. What one is I take breaks from
it. You you got to take breaks from
watching the news or being on online.
You got to take breaks. Okay? I can tell
you the times I take breaks, I feel so
much better, okay? Me me me me me me me
me me me me me me me me me me me me me
me me me me me me me mentally. Uh that
that's number one. Number two is I try
not to let people get under my skin. I I
try to let it roll. So like people come
after me, they're like, "You're you're
Jewish or you know, you're short." And
I'm just like, "What? You figured both
of those out? You're a genius." Right?
like I I try not to get into like
arguments and like fighting back. That's
what they want, right? So I try not to
give that to them. Um you know, and so I
think having a thick skin is important.
Um you know, I think some of my
colleagues who say they have a thick
skin, they dish it out, then as soon as
something comes back their way, they you
know, and it's like fun to watch. Um you
know, and so you know, so not taking
this too serious, right? Uh I think is
important to let you get through the
day. Now the third part is not not fun,
right? And that is that, you know,
because of what we do, like my life's
been in jeopardy, uh, at some points,
right? There's been, you know, an
assassination plot with a guy that lived
in Margate. You know, he had, you know,
a rifle, a scope, a suppressor, a vest,
hundreds of rounds of ammunition. Um, he
was googling wind resistance and
distance. Uh, he had a anti-semitic
racist manifesto. His he had a target
list with my name on it. He was a former
felon, by the way, and he was target
practicing in his backyard, which is how
we found him. Um, and I get online
threats all the time, you know, against
me, against my kids. We have to
investigate those. So, that piece, that
piece is not fun. And I will tell you,
it's mostly linked when I go on TV and
talk about Israel. No question about it.
There's a direct correlation whenever I
talk about Israel and the death threats
going up. Um, so that piece I take
seriously. The rest I just try to, you
know, let it let it roll off your
shoulder. Talk to us a little bit about
your Judaism, how how your Jewish
background and your Jewish practice,
your Jewish identity informs the work
that you do. Are there particular um
values or lessons that you're drawing
from that's informing and inspiring the
work that you do? What does your Judaism
mean to you? Well, look, I I grew up in
a fairly Jewish household. Uh, you know,
I grew up in a kosher household. I went
to Hebrew school. I was bar mitzv. Um,
my you know, my dad uh went to yeshiva.
My dad grew up Orthodox. Um, and so, you
know, that was instilled in me as just a
a young a young person again with the
the story of my grandparents. Um, you
know, they spoke Yiddish. That that
didn't translate that didn't translate
down. Um, but for me, it was making sure
that I continued the Jewish culture and
identity. Like with my kids, they go to
Hebrew school, they'll be bar mitzvah. I
have two boys. Um, but you know, we
don't we don't keep a kosher home. Um,
but I I just think right now the the two
most important things to keep, not the
not that the religious piece isn't
important, but I think the two most
important things to keep is the Jewish
culture and the Jewish identity, right?
I mean, you know, right? Right now, I
think, you know, pe Jewish people are
losing their culture a little bit and
Jews want to be quiet and not
necessarily publicly identify because of
what's happening, right? I mean, th this
is all being done intentional, right? I
mean, they want to silence us uh by what
you see on college campuses or throwing
red paint or protesting outside people's
homes. They want to silence us. Uh they
want us to be quiet. They want us to go
away. Um and so, you know, I'm I'm I'm
Jewish. I'm proud of being Jewish. Uh
and you know, I want to make sure my
kids understand that also, but
understand the reality that they're
growing up in now. It's not the reality
I grew up in in the 90s. Uh it's
dramatically changed. Uh and they're
going to run into people that are going
to say stuff and they're going to read
stuff on social media and they need to
understand or or they're going to see
Kanye, you know, coming out with a song
called Hal Hitler, you know, and and and
so I think right now the two most
important things, the Jewish culture,
Jewish identity, and making sure we pass
that down and and and and continue that
because, you know, obviously, you know,
there's less and less of us. Um, and you
know, we're we're the where we're we're
the problems with everything, right? We
barely exist in the in the global
population, but somehow we're the bane
of everyone's existence. It's just it's
just a joke. So So what would you tell a
child on college campus or a teenager on
college campus? You know, we're we've
been largely immune to it here in South
Florida, but you know, you pick your
college campus around the country, your
Ivy League College, and they're getting
bombarded with anti-semitism and
anti-Israel and anti-Zionism, and
they're getting threatened and walking
to class isn't as safe as it used to be.
And you just spoke beautifully about,
you know, someone has to identify as
Jewish and be Jewishly pride proud. What
would you tell someone who said, 'You
know, Congressman, that's really nice
and sweet, but I'm on campus X where
every time I walk to class, I'm getting
hurled, you know, slurs at and yelled at
and threatened and, you know, this is
just not like I I just want to go to
class. I just want to live my life.
Like, why should I why do I have to wear
my Judaism on my sleeve?
Yeah. I mean, look, right, so obviously
I'm not a 20-year-old, right? and I'm
double their age and I'm in Congress and
so I've had to develop a thick skin,
right? I mean, you know, look, I've
gotten into it, my colleagues, I've
gotten into it with AOC over this issue.
I, you know, centured Rashida Talib, uh,
over, you know, uh, o over, you know,
River to the Sea. And so, I've gotten
into my colleagues. It's made it
uncomfortable at times. There are still
people in the house that don't talk to
me, give me death stares when when when
I walk by. Um, and so, look, it's nice
to be liked. you want to be liked by
everyone. Uh but I I I prefer being
respected. Uh now that's harder for a
20-year-old, right, who, you know, just
wants to, you know, live their life and
be happy and go to school without having
slurs yelled at them. Uh look, I I would
tell those college kids, and that's why
I went to Colombia on Passover to show
those college kids not to be afraid.
Walk to the class. If they're assaulted,
report it. Obviously, that's a crime. It
should be investigated. But otherwise,
you know, do not uh in my opinion, do
not give them an inch, not an inch uh of
solitude that they've silenced you,
right? Don't if you used to wear a
Jewish star and now you're hiding it.
Don't don't do that. Don't let them see
that. That lets them know that this is
they're winning. They're going to
continue to do this. They're making
progress. That's what they want. They
want us to go back into hiding. Um they
want you to take off your yarmaka if you
wear one. Um, and so I know that's hard
to tell a 20-year-old is, you know,
these idiots are are yelling at them.
Look, these folks are sheep. They're
lemmings. They've been brainwashed,
okay? You know, just go do your thing.
Get to your class, focus on your
studies. Forget them, okay? They won't
be working on Wall Street or in or at a
Fortune 500 company with the way they'll
be going. They'll be the next, you know,
Occupy Wall Street group living in
tents. Um, you know, and so, um, you
know, that's what I would tell a Jewish
kid. Let them know that that there are
people behind them. Um, you know, don't
get yourself into trouble. Don't you
don't have to instigate, right? Don't
get yourself in a situation that can
cause you harm, but but you don't have
to be afraid. You have a lot of allies
who are coming to help you. What has
your experience in Congress been like?
Uh, is it your first term? Has it
surpassed what you expected? Is it
different than what you expected? What
what is the average person who only sees
Congress by the news clips and the
interviews and like you said the
fighting that happens publicly? You
know, you mentioned that their their
colleagues even on the other side who
will who will come over to you and
acknowledge the funny thing that you
said on Twitter even if it's about them.
You know, do people posture online where
they're fighting, but then offline are
you able to sit and play cards, go to
dinner, hang out? What is the experience
of Congress that the average person
doesn't know? Yeah, I'm still below the
age of the card uh the card playing
group. back. Um, yeah, there there might
be a Marjon uh group in Congress. I'm
not I haven't been invited if there is.
Uh, but here's what I would say. What I
would say is there are aspects of
Congress that have been amazing, right?
I mean, I work in the capital. I go onto
the floor like that's not lost on me.
this grandeur uh of this job. This is
where you know Abraham Lincoln and John
Adams and these amazing people uh you
know John Lewis I mean I serve with
unbelievable sort of giants you know
that you know were in this building um
you know so it's you know that aspect I
think has been great as far as but no
Congress is not what I expected right I
mean we we we not legislating the 118th
Congress was the least productive
Congress in modern history and the 119th
Congress was like hold my beer let me
show you how to do that. And we're even
least we're even less productive now. So
I we're not helping the American people.
We're too busy arguing uh with with each
other. And so that aspect has been a
letown. Uh Congress is more about comms
than legislating. I didn't realize I
would turn into a you know a little comm
shop. You know I tell college students
that are like I want to go into elected
office. I would say you better be
studying comms. Get out of political
science. Go study communications. Those
who can communicate are the ones that
rise. You know, you can you can
absolutely see that on the right and on
the left. Uh I would say there's a lot
of relationships across the aisle that
you don't see like the cameras turn on
and it's like a Broadway show and the
cameras go off and then there's some
chatting. Some people stay in character.
Marjorie Taylor Green stays in character
or she's just that miserable all the
time. I I don't know. Okay. But she know
she doesn't change. There's no talking
to her. But there are others um even in
the Freedom Caucus that you know have
personalities that talk um and we have
conversations. And so there's a lot more
talking in Congress than you see on
television or on social media. A lot
more. Not as much as it used to be, but
a lot more. Are there things that we
could do to improve that situation?
Should would you be telling the average
voter that we should demand of the
people that we elect a willingness to
work across the aisle? It all feeds
itself because the people most engaged
in politics are the most outraged and
the people most outraged don't want
their person talking to the other side.
How how do we change this before? I
mean, there's only I mean, under the
current dynamic, right? I mean,
obviously, we could talk about fixing
gerrymandering and independent
commissions and and having open
primaries. We could talk about all of
that. Um, but if we wanted to change who
we're sending to Washington right away,
immediately so that they're more
moderate on the left and the right, then
every independent, every registered
independent needs to pick a party,
right? Every independent needs to pick a
party. Go register as a Democrat. go
register as a Republican and you need to
vote in the primary, right? If you want
more moderate people, then we got to
moderate the pool of people who are
voting in these primaries. And the only
way to do that is for independents to go
pick a party uh without changing the
system. Uh but so long as the left and
the left primary voter and the right
primary voter gets more pure, people are
leaving and registering as independent,
making that more pure, and the
gerrymandering that's continued to go
on. No, Congress will continue not to
function. There's no incentive to be
partisan. There's no incentive because
you're worried about being primary to
the left and the right. It's a big
problem. Boca Raton celebrating its
centennial year. 100 years, which is
really feels like a long time or sounds
like a long time, but relative to cities
around the world is very short.
Certainly from a Jewish perspective on
our relationship with the land of
Israel, a hundred years is is nothing.
Any reflections on Bokeh? You serve, you
represent us, you represent Bokeh as
you're looking back a hundred years.
anything about Bokeh that you're
particular it's changed even in my
lifetime I mean it's amazing what's gone
on uh in Boca Raton I mean it's a still
a growing city it's a big city all the
redevelopment that's going there it's a
amazing 100redy year uh anniversary I
spend most of my money in Bokeh that's a
plus I I I guess it's right there next
to Parkland we don't have we don't have
much uh commercial in in Parkland so
Bokeh is a great town it's a great town
to raise a family it's a great town to
be Jewish uh in um you know and So, um
I'm I'm very uh very happy that Bokeh is
celebrating its uh 100y year centennial
uh and anniversary. Congressman, you
spoke about keeping it light. I guess
one more question. I noticed as you were
lifting your arm, you have a few
bracelets on I guess your right arm. Any
of them have particular significance
that would interest our audience? Yeah.
You know, it's funny. Some people come
up to me all the time and they're like,
"Oh, what's up with your colorful
bracelets?" and they like they try to
like get under my skin and then I tell
them actually there are names on these
bracelets and the names that are on
these bracelets are the kids that went
to to Marjorie Stoman Douglas on
February 14th and didn't walk out of the
building uh seven years ago. So the
parents, you know, have given me these
bracelets over the years. I've replaced
them as they've uh as they've worn. But
it's a reminder to me that just down the
block from my my home because we turned
the page in the media cycle so quickly
is that, you know, parents sent their
kids and loved ones, husbands to school
one day and they didn't come home. And
that was just a total failure of
government, of institutions. Um, it was
a failure of the school board. It was a
failure of the Broward Sheriff's Office
didn't go into into the building that
day. It was a failure of Tallahassee to
do more to protect our schools on school
safety. It was a failure in our gun
policy. It was a failure in mental
health. It was ma dramatic failure. The
FBI had hits on the kid. They failed.
Failure of the federal government. And
so this reminds me, going back to why do
I do what I do. This reminds me every
day why I'm doing what I do because, you
know, government failure has major
repercussions. You know, these families
have moved on uh move forward, I should
say. These families have moved forward,
but they're never going to move on. Uh
and so, you know, losing my dad was a
big deal to me three years ago. Uh, but
I would tell you, watching parents put
their kids in a box, that'll shake you
to your core.
No question about it. Congressman, we'll
end the way we began with tremendous
pride that you're our congressman and
gratitude for all that you do, first of
all, with common sense, bipartisanship,
and unity, and uh, standing up for the
USIsrael relationship. It means the
world and in a world in which it's
increasingly uncomfortable and there are
repercussions. You spelled them out,
threats on your life and your family.
That's a very heavy price to pay and one
that is not lost on us. We're incredibly
grateful and thankful for our special
relationship with you and wish you a lot
of and blessing and success as you
continue to go forward for these things
that we we share together. We value
together. So, thank you for making some
time for us. Well, thank you Rabbi and
Rabbi. Thank you. We appreciate it.