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Rabbi Dr Bentzion Twerski
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Do you Hear what I am Saying? How to Hear the Intended Message Behind the Words
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and uh my minion started at eight
o'clock
so you do brushes at eight
and review
at uh 8 10
and i would always you know make sure
that i
i start on time but when they tell me
you have to get to preserve some shots
by this in this
moment i would always make it like a
minute or two later because i discovered
that the meaning of the basement
was if they say chakra starts at nine on
shabbos it means it doesn't start before
9.
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when it starts you don't know so
whenever the rabbit walks in
all right so today we're talking about
communication
and this may very well be for some of us
the equivalent of a college course
called communications 101.
i'm going to talk about just some very
very simple basics about communication
that that we
tend to overlook we tend to
minimize them
and
here's what communications 101 is
obviously if i'm talking to you
i need to make myself understood that
you should be able to hear what i got to
say you also have to be the one
listening because if you're not paying
attention you're not listening you're
not hearing me the message isn't getting
to where it has to go
so much as we would talk about travel
you know you get in the car over here
you have to come over there there's a
path that you have to go in order to get
there if you're going to use the wrong
route and follow the wrong map you can
end up at the wrong destination so
obviously what communication
requires i'm not telling you something
that that that is not that is not
obvious
is if i'm trying to communicate a
message to you i have to give it to you
in a way that you're going to understand
it to whatever degree i'm less than
clear you have to be able to figure out
what i really mean i'm going to explain
more about that momentarily
remember when we were in younger grades
in
ghetto in school we had a
hamish with big letters with the posik
on the top
and small letters with rashi on the
bottom
right
rashi is trying to tell you
the intended message of the posik is
this
right
sometimes he he brings letters he brings
a lot from that
but whatever it is this is the intended
message of the possibility that's what
teresa is
the reality is that we need to
recognize that when we're communicating
the person on the other end is hearing
the words we say
but then they have to decipher
and break the code what is the message
that is really met
and we there are so many ways of doing
this wrong
and it is so easy to do it to do it
wrong let me give you some examples of
just how bizarre things can get
so for instance there was a couple that
i was speaking with
a week or two ago
and one of them described the scene that
actually happened
where
the husband asked the wife
can you please pass me the salt
and her response was
oh you mean i didn't spice the food well
she she got she she picked up completely
the wrong message was an
unintended message
and at the same time there are messages
that we are trying to convey that don't
get through i want to relate
to
events
in
my own experience
there was a summer shabbos
that
i had everything ready i have a list of
like last minute chores i don't know if
most men get this but it's mine i got to
make sure that the hot water is put up i
may have to make sure that the black is
done a whole bunch of last minute things
and one of the last minute things
is that the kishka that was taken out of
the freezer
was left on the counter
and wait i wait for it to thaw superman
so i can tear off all the wrappers with
with letters before shabbos and then we
put it into the chunk then we're good to
go
well what happens is that the kishko was
on the counter all day and one of my
chores is you know before i set the
challenge onto the blast that's what i
do
i
i had another five ten minutes before
lift mentioned and i went into the
living room i sat down on the couch and
i have arms length to the stronger my
finger let me see something on the
posture so i'm sitting there and i'm
keeping myself
busy with looking into a
cypher
and my wife comes downstairs and she
makes turn the other direction to go
into the kitchen
and i hear her calling to me from the
kitchen
where's the kishka
i put it in the chunk
okay that was one time
about 10 seconds later where is the
kishki
i put it in the chunk
so this is two
okay and the score kept on going up so
about eight times
she kept on saying where's the kishka
and she's she's giving me the same
question i'm giving you the same answer
like
what part is not being understood
there's a reality
that she's around this way so the sound
has to travel
completely around the corner but then
i'm over 40 and in our family we get
nerve deafness by
somewhere by the age 40.
so i'm past that already and
so you can attribute it both to you know
my
my age and the
layout of the house
she comes running into the living room
she says
i'm about to bench look where's the pish
guy i want to put something in
okay
so that that's that's a that's a very
elementary simple version of
communication
now here's here's a here's a far better
story
the story was that my youngest married
son
is married to a young grace so my hypnos
the one who is the shuldin woodburn
this the famous rabbits in june grace is
the second cousin to him
but after the war the families kept very
close they were very tight
so they go to each other's synchros and
here in the middle of the dancing
the
the servants and young guys wants to say
to me
so she they they opened up a few inches
of the pizza at the far end of the hall
and they called us over that she should
say mazel tovtos
now in the meantime
the
kitten
is a very very loved man
and a lot of the singers and performers
are coming to the
hassana and one of them was lipa
okay lipa comes he's wearing his
collared necklace and he's
he kisses everybody downstairs and he
goes upstairs to the balcony to the
music and he takes over the microphone
we knew this was going to happen
so he takes and he finishes the next
song and then the music takes a
10-minute break my favorite time at
hasanes is when the music takes a break
because you know all of all the blasting
and the zetzing with the
and the noise you can at least talk to
somebody
and hear them
so
the music takes a break and the
robinson uses this opportunity to say
muslim now for those of
us or from the
new york area
there are hassanis we can refer to as
hit and run
you show up
you find the
martinez
and you're out of there
your spouse is waiting in the car so you
don't get a a a ticket and uh nor did
you have to look for parking and you go
home or you go to the next center
so um
how long does it take you to say muscle
tough
30 seconds 45 seconds you know you know
you know the family a little bit closer
maybe takes you before a full minute
represent young guys
was a speaker
and when she spoke she would go for
sometimes an hour or two
probably without breathing in the middle
as far as we could tell she had so much
to
to share she is not saying mazel tov for
45 seconds
she filled 10 minutes easily
and she's going on and on and meanwhile
the music the opposite side of the hall
on the balcony is starting to play
now
she's still talking
how do you quiet
down music
so that she can finish what she has to
say it's only it's only proper
so there's a bunch of people standing in
back of us
and a few of them turn to the face the
music and they go like this
their hands up high like shut up
and what was lipa singing
and if you ever watch the consonants
when he would sing with whoever the
singer is singing
everyone's walking around like this
the same message that's intended be
quiet
is actually turning
is turning them on and it's actually
stimulating that much that th
the the noise and the singing to keep on
going
so what we have is the fact that there
are there's
when you look at a dynamic of
communication
you have one individual
who is
performing what we call expressive
communication they're conveying a
message they're saying something
on the other end there's a receiver
now
in a dynamic let's let's let's take the
typical
you know or we always say communication
is part of the problem is in marriage
and that is
you've got
the husband or the wife is the
expressive communicator saying something
to their spouse
right the spouse is receiving the
message
now if they're tuned into the same
frequency
show them how you throw it's great this
is exactly what we're looking for but
what if they're not
and the husband is communicating this
and the wife hears that
so to whatever degree his express of
communication
is
for lack of a better uh description
description idiot proof you can't
misunderstand it that's terrific
but what about if he is not a perfect
expressive communicator and he doesn't
say exactly what he means
so she has to somehow figure out from
what he said what is it that he really
means to say so we have to have
we
we have to have good skills for
expression
and good skills for
reception
we have this all the time if
we're talking to somebody and we're on
our cell phone or today even our home
phones are our cordless phones remember
corded phones anybody
um
if if somebody's
signal from their from their cell plan
is weak
the conversation's not happening
these are things that we all understand
because we do with them on a daily basis
um
anything that's going to
prevent somebody from expressing
themselves clearly
is going to impede communication
anything that's going to prevent
somebody from receiving and deciphering
the message clearly
is going to is going to
is going to is going to interrupt that
so you really need to have two people
that are on the same wavelength
i'm going to repeat
briefly what vivianka solomon shared
last night
in his presentation it was speaking
about the love languages
and
when i work with couples
we we have to talk about the love
languages and i i always recommend the
book for people who aren't aware
um the five love languages
is a book that has been modified
for different populations so there's the
five of all languages for truck drivers
five love languages for people over 40
five love languages for you know
like chicken soup for the soul for you
know for airline pilots and chicken soup
and it's all for teenagers
any identifiable there is
a book the five love languages for
orthodox jews
um and it's available you can you can
you can look for it on whatever your
your online websites are there are some
judaica stores that actually carry the
book
um so it it
leaves out things that would otherwise
be
um
offensive or not well tolerated in the
firm community and there's some things
that i written to be to be more um
compatible for us and the author
together with the from the professional
uh had collaborated for that
the
side of the five love languages besides
knowing what they are it's a very very
important
basic basic theme and
the active mentioned it last night
if i'm trying to convey an affectionate
message to you
i have to use your language not my
language
so that if you're in a foreign country
and you want to ask directions
because you don't know where you are you
better know the language of the land
if you're going to try to ask them in
english
they're not going to understand it
because they speak whatever other
language that is
is used over there
so you're in france you better figure
out how do i ask in french where am i
going to
my father described when they were he
was a vocal learning
in
in yeshiva and bob of this and then when
they first opened in 1947 there was a
talmud there
who
was a
a holocaust refugee did not know a word
of english
and he wanted to go from bubble was then
on the upper west side he wanted to go
to brooklyn to logansburg whatever
and he asked one of the other gohan
there who was
one of the few that was able to speak
english and he said
if i
need to ask directions on the
on the subway
what do i say
and this book has said to him you ask
somebody where is my destination
right he came home like he he made it
back in time to put on film the next
morning
so the there's
the the the critical piece
is that the that the most effective
communication
requires
that
that the expresser
expresses clearly
the receiver receives clearly
and that
that that we're able to manage is now
we've spoken
very very
fundamental basics
of
normal communication
okay normal communicators
what happens now when you have a
situation where the two people are una
one of the two or both
are unable to communicate
properly
and there's many different situations
that can lay that that lay the the
groundwork for this and if we have an
idea of what they are
we know where
are the potential trouble spots
so that what if somebody is
handicapped
and cannot speak clearly
can we understand what they're saying
there's a
yin man who
the last several months has been
davening in their basement with us
um and he's a friendly guy and he makes
he makes conversation with people
i've had conversations with him and most
of the time of my shaking my head i have
no idea what he's talking about
he mumbles in a way that it's just just
not clear to me
so i'm nice to him and i behave
but if he's trying to tell me something
i have no idea what he's talking about
um
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that's a
one version of somebody with difficult
communication
there are people who are are unable to
communicate properly because of clear
handicaps
right this is a speech handicap they're
people with with
neurological problems the people who are
are are less able to communicate because
of
of of aging
one of the
and obviously there's mental illness
which can make a very big difference one
of the things that is
clear
is that when we're dealing with our kids
that are going through
major difficulties
which is true way too big of a
percentage of the time where they're
victims of trauma
we're dealing with somebody who can
not communicate accurately
now
let me go away from the from our kips
for a moment let's talk about a normal
kid not a kid
four-year-old kid
and the kid says something to the parent
which is really
what's my dick
nasty
right
i was i once got a phone call from the
parents a seven-year-old kid
mild-mannered kid kid comes home from
school one day and says
mother
seven-year-old mother if i had a knife
i'd cut you in pieces
he's like what
now
the mother was
sat back and said there's something
going on here i don't know what it is
they called me and i'm not a child
therapist who were able to actually
figure out what was what was what was
happening
it was one of these cases of
me having a lot of scout to dismay and
guessing right
but
there was
there was a reason why the kid was
communicating that way and it turned out
that there was it was a particular
medical issue that was having a
psychiatric side effect whatever it did
that it was a
it was something was broken able to be
resolved relatively easily and
happy ending they lived happily ever
after
the kid that comes and speaks to a
parent with foots i get the question
probably at least once a week my kid
talks to me with hooks
how do i react to that and
the the knee-jerk reaction of a parent
or a rebbe or a teacher
is to react disciplinary
you shouldn't talk like that it's not
nice to talk like that and that's true
it's not nice to talk like that
but if we understand
the perishabashi of what the child is
really saying
it changes the entire the entire dynamic
what's wrong with but it's a disgusting
way to talk
it's a distancing thing
it's more of an attack it's a verbal
attack is that what we want to accept
from our children
the answer is no we don't want to
but that's not what's really happening
and if we pay attention
to what is really taking place it's a
totally different dynamic
and what i'm
the the suggestion that i'm going to
give you which is true so much of the
time is the kid that's talking to you
that way
and again not even kips
the kid is saying something is bothering
me
and with the kids they're saying i'm
hurt i'm in pain i'm suffering
and if we realize that what the kid is
telling us
is not
mother i hate you
tatty get off my back you're making my
life miserable
what they're doing is they're they're
reaching out and they're connecting and
saying
tate or mommy i'm in pain
they're not called kips kids in pain
just because it's a cute word
the kids are suffering the husband is
it's not a nice way for them to say it
now
the response to the
parent who says my kid talks to me with
football
how do you respond to that
instead of approaching it in the
disciplinary way
my typical response to them unless
there's other individual factors going
on
but my typical responses you tell your
kid
i know you're trying to tell me
something
and i very much want to hear you
i don't understand that language please
say it differently and this is the same
for the kid as saying
kid is speaking with
vulgarity
right very common these days
does anybody realize what vulgarity is
well guarantee is a way
of saying things in a way in a manner
which is rash
irritating
but making sure that you're going to
hear it
and when a kid
is
deteriorating to the point where they're
talking in that language
they're saying i gotta make awfully sure
that you hear me
and this way i know i'm gonna use some
words that are gonna get under your skin
i'm gonna irritate you
i know that you've heard that i'm that
that i'm talking to you
and the kid is it's more it's an
attention-getting thing
because vulgarity is usually not part of
the subject matter that they're talking
about it's how they dress it up
so that
the if we can
get past
the
offensiveness of the kids saying
words that are vocabulary that shouldn't
be in our
homes or our classrooms and we can say
you know what i know you're trying to
tell me something
i'd love to hear you
but it's got to be a language that i can
understand because this because this
isn't it
right and to whatever whatever you have
to do to to give message to give that
message to the child is critical
the kids that are in trauma
and
um
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i know that i i said this yesterday
afternoon but the
the definition of trauma is a very very
broad definition
and as we go through shabbos you're
going to hear different versions of the
same message
many many times
there are
there's a there's a wide variety of
situations that create trauma
um yeah you have the drama ones you have
the ones that have you know flashing
lights and hot solo calls and and
police and and and and
and all the and all the action and you
have traumas that you know that some
people here are calling it mini traumas
or micro traumas there are there are
situations which are traumatic rather
than a a traumatic event
and
those things have
a profound impact on the mind of a child
who wants to communicate
so that if somebody was kashalum in some
sort of a serious accident and they
walked out barcelona they're going to
bench guymo
right
they're going to be telling people
they're going to tell somebody something
you know there's an old
there's there's an old story of a
reformed rabbi who
wakes up you keep in mourning
and he's got a job right
yeah
i know it's him kipper and
i have a job and then a rabbi and a
temple and
you know what
i'm not in the mood of any of that
i'm going out to
to
to the to the to the golf course and i'm
going to shoot myself a couple of
a couple of holes of golf
and he gets in his car with his uh his
his apparatus his golf clubs and he goes
out there and he tees off you know tee
off is when you set up the ball on a
little thing you stick in the ground you
give us that's the ball and it flies
somewhere and it has to go in the
direction of wherever the hole is right
and it's usually quite a distance from
there and
there's like norms or an average of how
many times you have to hit the ball to
actually get it to go into the little
hole
there's such a thing
as a hole in one
now if you just think what the
statistical odds are of getting all in
one they're extremely tiny
so this guy sets up and he tees off and
the ball goes really really high and far
and hits the top of the tree and it
ricochets bouncing down from one branch
to the next and it finally
gets down to the ground and there's a
pebble there and it ricochets off that
and then it bounces something else in
the root of a tree and
finally finally finally nothing on some
iso hole in one
so the angels in heaven are going into
god almighty
god
this guy's blasphemous
he belongs in temple he's supposed to be
fasting it's young kipper he's got a job
he's supposed to be giving sermons he's
supposed to be demonstrating to other
people to bring them close to god
and and and you get you let him get a
miracle like this
and god says to the angels
calm down folks who's he gonna tell
the
when we experience something dramatic
we're accomplishing to tell somebody
it's pushing out of me i remember when
my
my youngest son was bronze big kiddish
you know
i was over 40 and my wife was i think
she just hit 40 or something like that
and
i i we were thrilled beyond right
i couldn't get a car service to get home
from the hospital whatever there was
there were no car services and i have to
wait an hour
i walked home it was a nice distance and
i stopped at this medicine i i wanted
and i got milk there and
i stopped in the store to buy something
and all i can tell you is
i was going crazy i walked i walked into
a store to buy something
okay
i didn't do it but i really felt like
telling the shiksa behind the counter
my wife just had a boy
now she doesn't know who i am she
doesn't care who i am she doesn't care
if i had a baby she just needs to do her
job
i was itching to to share it's a piece
of it it's a piece of news the same way
that these major events in our lives
that are positive are things we like to
share and the damage is off we should
always be able to share things like this
somebody who is experiencing a negative
event
is polishing
by nature to share it with somebody
because to suffer alone
is
is a is a magnified form of suffering
so that
it's perfectly
common
and rational
to expect a kid that is suffering
internally from whatever their trauma is
it's a accumulation of micro traumas
it's a traumatic event it's a series of
traumatic events
and and and and all the things that
follow that the
loneliness the anxiety the self-blame
the the rage that they have towards
towards towards towards others the
um self-esteem that goes that that goes
down the
the that goes down to drain for them all
of these things are things that they
don't want to contain inside because
we all want somebody to share it with
and when they can't do that
it's suffering for them and they they're
they're trying desperately desperately
to do it and what they need to be able
to do
is to share the experience and we need
to be there to share it with them
so that they're going to be saying
things they're haunting to say it
and they don't
they're unable to express it
properly or at least in the way that we
want to hear it
because they can't do it and in order
for them to do it they have to get into
vulgarity they have to get into huts but
they have to speak in ways that we don't
like sometimes they're not saying it in
words they're saying it in actions
the kids that change the way they dress
they're not doing it because those
things are more comfortable
now i can't tell you what short skirts
feel like i've never tried it
okay but
why would somebody want to walk around
less covered up
i i just don't understand it
right why does somebody want to have
more hair in the front it's a pain in
the neck right
the kids are making statements we
recognize that the kid that changes
their lavoosh
and their manner of dress is making the
statement they are conveying a message
to us
and we need to hear that message
so that
and yeah pretty much almost everybody
there is dress you know the
vacuum suits whatever it is whatever the
regular
the regular
the wishes and every so often somebody
comes in
and they're not dressed like that
and they used to they used to come
dressed like that and today they're
wearing something else
and i make it my business to go over and
whatever way is socially
acceptable and proper i embrace them
they're making a statement
and
my message to them is
i'm not interested
in the statement that you're making
unless you want to tell me more about it
but i am going to reach out to you and
tell you
that you are to be embraced because very
often what they're trying to say is i
feel separate from you i feel
disconnected and i'm not and and i'm not
going to let them get away with that
because
that's that's a message of pain
and if i can help a swag and minimize
their pain in any way whatsoever i want
to try to do that
the
so the kids are making statements
and the statements are not being made
verbally verbal schools are not going to
help you for that
when they're making a statement
behaviorally
you need to respond to them behaviorally
and and connect
there are many things that control
the way that a person conveys messages
we've mentioned trauma
we've mentioned languages
there are
factors that are very different
in
different in
different languages different dialects
different locations different times
when i was in my early days working in
the field
and
encountering people using drugs
they referred to marijuana
as grass
and pot
in the new york area
when they said dope they were referring
to marijuana
when i was working in new jersey dope
meant heroin
and these are the street names for drugs
and those street names have changed
so that
in bar park
in the populated neighborhoods around
brooklyn
um marijuana was called grass because
grass could not mean anything else
um
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in pennsylvania you know grass gave me
something else so they called it other
stuff today the common common expression
for it is wheat and there's many other
nicknames for these things and if
anybody wants to deal with the drug
scene they better be up to date on on
on
what the names are that are being used
for things and
recognize that over the period of time
those things are going to change because
because um the vernacular does modify
over time
um
the the uh
we're beset in our generation with
certain challenges of communication
that are
the things we have to cope with they're
they're here to stay
um
do we text the same way that we speak
would we
would we submit a a letter to somebody
that spells people ppl
or before the
letter be in the number four you know
you will you you wouldn't do that but
that's okay in texting language and how
many of our kids
have a huge amount of their
how many of us
of our communications are being done
that way
so what we've done is we've modified the
way that we communicate to be able to
to uh to to follow certain trends and it
can be unnerving to people i i i find it
really irritating when i get a text
message that's like that i have to like
decipher it before i can before i can
actually read it
um
it's
it becomes now
a critical piece of how
people can interact
maintain
a way
the medium of interacting is
communication
can we express ourselves well can you
receive the message as well
is there a disability or a handicap
on one or both sides of that
two that make it difficult for us to be
able to communicate
for for a while
i was unable to communicate with my
father well by phone
there was a problem between the receiver
of the telephone and his hearing aid you
know it became problematic for him and
we communicated better
by email
no we did speak on the phone but it was
half the time i was saying things and i
did not know whether or not he even
heard me
and these are these are are common
common
challenges that we have
think about the people that we're
talking to
and i'm not even talking about our kids
i'm talking about us here
how many of us here
are coming in with our trauma maybe it's
primary trauma maybe it's secondary
trauma
that we're here and we're parents in
pain we're pips
and when we're talking to somebody else
are we communicating in a way
that we're saying what we really want to
say
and is the person hearing us hearing the
message that we're actually saying
um in the
in
bianca solomon's presentation last night
he made reference to
a colleague of ours
uh dirhavan named dr mayor wickler
dr may wickler
one of the books that he's written the
last time i spoke to mayor it was it was
in its 17th printing
it's probably far beyond that now and
even though the book was originally
published quite a number of years ago
it's still found on the shelves of
judaica stores and it should be
the name of the book is 10 minutes a day
to a better marriage
and what he describes there the very
beginning of the book and i recommend it
to couples
because it is just that valuable
for them to learn how to communicate
properly
where the tendency that the 10 minutes
is a
um
basic exercise and we can all do it with
whoever it is that we need to
communicate with whether it's our our
husbands our wives our children
what it is is
it's a a technique called reflective
listening where i
the practice session is i say something
to you for a couple of minutes and you
reflect back to me not your response to
me but you reflect back to me what you
heard
when you do that i can now hear oh
that's not exactly what i meant so let
me let me
let me try to say it differently and we
may have a back and forth on this any
number of times before we get it right
when we do this exercise we learn
to be better expressive communicators
and we learn how to receive messages
better
in other words when you're not 100 clear
because perfection is not for the
members of the human race when you're
not perfect
all right you've communicated a message
i think you mean such and such i can get
better at figuring out what you really
mean
um
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simon pointed out a really really
major major aspect of this and that is
that communication involves other things
besides the words there's the tone of
voice there's the expression in which
it's being it's being it's being said
it's whether you're speaking softly
you're speaking loudly it's the body
language it's the facial
expressions we get better with this we
have to be aware of it
so that when you know when you're
talking to somebody you can't see them
right there's a certain certain thing
that you're missing okay so what's that
fix that
right
we can facetime or whatever it is we've
we've fixed a little bit of that
but that but
you still miss an awful lot
the the uh
uh
so in reflective listening
you basically practice
how to be able to speak
in a way that conveys the message you
really need they give you a very very
simple example
of communication both verbal and
non-verbal
men you come home from work
you're hungry
and you go to the refrigerator and you
open the door refrigerator and you're
looking inside
your wife happens to be in the kitchen
what is she going to say to you
what are you looking for
are you hungry
right
obvious
what if what if the real reason that
he's looking at it because he's going to
go to the grocery and he wants to know
if you need milk or eggs
there's
there are other possibilities
to what to what to what somebody means
if we're conscious of that
we can at least we can at least respond
that way
now
there's no you know there's no no
disaster of saying are you hungry when
all he's doing is trying to check if
there's no connects right
but there's so many times that we can
actually miss a
situation so now
how many of us have had stories where a
kid comes home from yeshiva
right
and
something happened in class that day
and the kid wants to talk about it
right
now let's say it's something involving
the kid that's disciplinary in nature
right
it's not a narcissist it's not an office
of communication
right so we're not going to be thrilled
to hear it
how's that communication going to go by
you're going to show the you're going to
show the child
i don't hear stuff like this
right
you may say
body language maybe not in in words
what message messages the kid got
you just communicated to them while
they're talking
you know
that again
so there's
these these things become
critical issues
in every every home
every day
no matter what the situation is
how do we communicate
right
we do it in action we do it in
in words we do it in all the other parts
of how we
speak with the the body language the
facial
expressions the tone of voice how do we
do all that
when we become a lot more conscious of
it
it changes us do we practice the
reflective listening is a fantastic
exercise we each have a couple of
minutes saying what we want
whoever we're trying to communicate with
says this is what i this is what i
i'm
i'm hearing
and it it becomes it becomes a very very
different somebody says something to you
which is not true
you know we can do
we can be very much at the surface what
you said is not true it wasn't this it
was that
right the person wasn't drying is
driving a chevy they were trying driving
a a
honda you can get into that
right
is that productive
maybe maybe it is but it probably isn't
what you got a better chance of doing is
recognize the person just said something
that was not factual
what is it that is going on that they're
trying to
that they're trying to avoid
why are they giving me a different a
different message why are they saying
something is not accurate why would
somebody lie maybe they're misperceiving
it maybe they didn't understand it
properly
but
if we recognize that the message being
sent to us while it's untrue
there are other possibilities of what
the person's trying to convey to me we
can focus on that instead of getting
carried away into the
into the
mitsia's detail which as shimon said
yesterday is a total waste of time
because it does not it's not
it's not communication that produces
anything
um
remember that when we are talking
to each other
we're talking about our own experiences
we're talking to our children we're
talking to somebody that the
communication
has
a good reason why to be
less than a hundred percent
we need to understand what the real
messages that they're conveying because
we can otherwise get completely lost
please have a wonderful shabbos and
enjoy it and be conscious of when people
communicate
thank you
um
i have time the program doesn't have
time
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