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🎶 Waterbury Returns (Feat. Waterbury Mesivta) (Ep. 156)

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hi this is dominolowski and welcome to the special shavashira edition of the raviolovsky show [Music] and whether you're watching with our friends over at tour anytime whoever you watch or listen to your podcast as always we are happy to have you um i did a shabbos in muncie years ago for rabbi center and the robertson uh had a word that she liked to use she was using it to explain a number of situations serendipity serendipity means that you know uh things move along in a particular way whether you realize it or not you just don't see it all all the time so it happened to be that this group of australians came to my house um and it happened to be just before shabashira so i said as long as you're here why don't we make a musical episode for shabashira and that's what we did the first year on shabba shira on the raviolivsky show the second year we managed to bring in some of the most sort of after musical talent in the jewish world who had all studied in the waterbury yeshiva and now they're all in imribena and they did a musical show last year we were on zoom and i hummed it quietly to myself as i said in my little room by myself in a very very sad shiva now hashem this is the fourth shabashima show that we're having and as it happens in that in the three and a half years of the raviolamski show the show with the waterbury boys was the highest rated show and uh you know i make this look incredibly easy part of that is the fact that i'm so incredibly talented part of that is just you know um the fact that i've i've been i'm in the business many many years in fact uh when we're filming this it happens to be my birthday i'm 63 years old which in gematria is sag because everything starts to sing i mean thank you very much that that wasn't meant for an applause line but i'll take it that's pretty good because you could also read it backwards as gas and i think there's something to be said for that as well but at any event you uh you get old you get old you have a little bit more experience so it's it's it's easier but people don't realize when you come on to this set it is a challenge and almost everyone who has been here has said gee i i you know i would like to do it again a little differently et cetera you know and uh so uh this is uh i would say the first repeat performance or appearance that we've ever had on the raviolovsky show so before we go any further i'm gonna ask right away our special guests to offer us a special performance of one of their special songs and then we'll pick up from there so this song is called uvnai by waterberry massiveta composed by benny stein ankara rachman gorgeous song [Music] in a house so far from home we're surrounded [Music] darkness [Music] me [Music] [Applause] oh [Music] is [Music] oh [Music] [Applause] is [Music] [Applause] beautiful beautiful the gift of music um before we do our sponsorship i just want to uh give a shout out to a good friend of the robert rowlowski show uh arie razza who got us a new ruby olavsky show mug um with the new logo if you didn't notice we have to change the logo and so this mug reflects the new logo which by the way is going to be used now in various rubriolovsky show merch okay along with uh pictures of all of the waterberry guys [Applause] why would you want pictures of one of the guys well that brings us to our sponsorship we're sponsored by the chicago crested fund in honor of their fifth annual shots for shidduchim [Applause] and uh if you sign up you get any one of them i'm just kidding anyway i'm just kidding you can get to it but anyway we are no singles who have been struggling in the shitty world maybe that single is you maybe not anyway there are plenty who are trust me oh you hear the stories all the time such a difficult thing as a community bound together by torah values we would do anything to help ourselves and each other through what can be a very difficult parasha it definitely is i never got a second date with anybody including my 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that's not just their problem that's my problem and yeah you have to when a question comes to show we don't say tachman you know why because it's a simcha for everybody that they're building by his name on the israel this is a tremendous host securius course at chas for shidduchim.org okay so uh i want to start by introducing uh our special guest for this shabbos i'm going to start with my son moshi huda orlavsky known to the world for reasons that are unclear to me to this point as mo young i never called him oh yo i always called him because he was named for my father who's 25th yurt site is going to be uh yud zion spot this is 25 years and uh and when i had i had a daughter and i had another daughter and then i had a son and he said to me look i had the chance to be sondik your father-in-law never had a chance to be sondik give it to him and i'll take the next one and then i had another girl and then i had another girl and then i had another girl and then i had another girl and then he passed away and um uh so uh oh i had another girl first another girl in fact by that point he was very sick and uh he said that he was um he had made arrangements to be medevac to israel so that he could be sunday so he didn't make it so then after he passed away i had another girl and then i had a boy and it's a little tricky because my father is moshi huda and my father-in-law is moshe so i asked rashus if i could if i could name for my father he said yeah just don't call them moish they call me marsh just don't call me so i was always carefully called moshi and uh and my my family thought that was too long a name for somebody so small and so they condensed it to mojo they tried a couple of different what's up they tried a couple of different uh things and so most people refer to him as moyo i always call him because that's his name call me crazy anyway that's it and by the way uh i then had another boy and i told my father-in-law you know because you were so nice i'll let you pick the name and so my youngest son norbert will uh kidding anyway okay so monsieur it's good to have you back yeah it's great to be back it's funny you mentioned um grandpa so i never had this close to me and grandpa that would be awkward like 20 years ago or something like that 25 25 you just said that correct one of the things i got from grandpa was memory loss actually he knew was named uh uh uh uh the guy what's his name uh uh uh it was like it was always playing charades every time he spoke anyway yeah um that's actually funny i was telling someone yesterday um that i'm named and that's really irrelevant really what i want to speak about anyway it's it's really really good to be back on the show i'm super excited you know two years ago it's been a long time we've been through covert since then we've been through like all sorts of like stuff delta variant we've been through the only you know what i'm saying we've been through a lot i actually had the only this is the first uh time we're having guests since copenhagen right now when i was doing it on zoom so we did a perm one with jakob and right you know all of us huddled together a little thing and i looked like i was being held hostage anyway oh my gosh um but yeah it's really nice to be here wonderful and with you is sannenberg from baltimore um i'm named also after my greater grandfather's arts it's not coming up but uh that's that's the fun fact for now all right eddie produced thank you mommy thank you [Applause] go out there and support and thank your mommy let's go for those who don't appreciate it i put up on i mentioned on the show and i put up on the website it's still there uh mostly who composed a song in honor of my wife's birthday um uh called we love waterbury i don't know i couldn't say that thank you thank you and so that was uh that was uh very exciting so we uh uh he composed it he uh produced it very nice and ellie dex and i'm not named after any grandfather but um i am doing that after ellio navi which is pretty cool i thought i could add that [Applause] this is your first podcast yeah yeah i'm not the best at this but we're gonna try this this is listen it's a new experience it's very exciting there's nothing to be nervous about everybody's watching you now yeah and deciding should i consider this guy he went there yeah he did but don't worry this is a safe place and finally returning from farah and i've been here before zip code and street address house number you know people ask me do you believe in reincarnation and i say in my last life i didn't but since then i've been coming around to the idea so i i find this uh fascinating from the last time you guys won the show because the reaction we got was tremendous obviously um because of just the tremendous amount of talent and playing and singing and composing and uh and i'm reminded of a story that i heard many years ago a guy was in hyberlin and he asked for putting a uh if he could play a classic and he said to him it's not a good life for you should have buffer because you're out late at night and you kept getting up in the morning afterwards and you know but uh but do you feel that you have talent he says yeah i have talent singing and playing and composing he says then you always have to find the best teacher to make sure that you continue to develop this because if a kurdish borough who gave you a kayak to use it that's an unbelievable idea um reuben and good they say we can't go in there throw we have lots of cats so answer because they say so no problem make a big barbecue you know on the range if i don't call you shop eat up all the cows and not go in there and chill you're going to give up married child because you have a lot of cows and the answer is he says if i could give you something you're not allowed to waste it you can't just throw it away because who gave you all these cows he wants you to uh he wants to be a herder you know so um uh so it's it's something that could send you away and if you have a talent that the coach broke who wants you to develop it the question is has that situation changed in client yourself are people discouraged now from developing natural talents whether it's in music or it's an art or it's in performance or anything else amazing wow i really really like that i really like that topic good question it's great yeah i'm saying so you mentioned that so mikhail is just very into like this idea ruby kalish is uh whatever right is that high school actually what's the official name um no so this this idea of like of like embracing and like like expressing talent within like the firm wall the firm world um as a guy many girls i think do have more opportunity in this area because and it makes sense because like it became like more of a girly thing to be like good at art and stuff like that um so they'll have like a play and a show it's all like guys there's something that averages shiva won't and something requires very into is he's very into like sports and he's very into music and there's a guy actually that no one ever knew he like he could draw he came to waterbury and like two months later the guy's like drawing up the coolest like like just like amazing different type of art and and yesterday i was talking to my rebbe about this idea i remember it and he brought in a very cool idea he said that he always thought that the reason why kayla's just so into all these different like side outlets and he invests so much in it is so the guy will get good association with the other sky through that and then hulk come to the base magician do the real big boy thing of learning tyra and he said recently he said he he understands a completely different a deeper way and it's not true because because i shall give someone a talent with any talent that god gives someone you could serve as shown with that talent meaning a basketball game could be just a basketball you're just hooping around or it could be that like i'm working on my meters i'm working on my on my competitive like side like i'm we're going to stop the game to pick up yamaha that's why you shoot us i'm sorry this idea of like taking the talent like cabin type of idea and and take it like i'm very into that it's just like it's a very broad topic too when i toured nursing i had a guy who came and asked me a question they wanted him to be in the perm play they didn't do a spiel they did a play it was a it was a real real deal performance you know it was uh some of the most amazing things because they had people who actually had been in the entertainment field you know you know smith and this guy said to me they want me to be in the play i'm going to have to spend a lot of time in rehearsal uh can i justify the bitter tire i said a hundred percent it's it's a purim spiel has such a power in the firm community in the yeshiva it brings achtus and it's it's social criticism i mentioned this of course and the quechua's you know how when you write a comic strip you can say things that you can't say you know normally the same thing in the forum play you know you can you can say things that you can't say normal context you know listen imitation is the is the finest form of flattery i mean i when i was in yeshivas and they used to imitate me i loved it because you get to see insights that you never realize one year they do mean the prime play i'm sitting there talking i mean and then i stop and i go like this and everyone left i was like what's that and the guy did it like three or four times i said what's that because remember you do that all the time i said they never do that you know anyway the next time i said point it out to me so i wasn't sure i was doing the whole thing and then i stopped i went like this and they said see oh now i understand i said because there is a method to the madness and i try to throw in enough you know humor and fun to get the point across but not so much that it should be cause roach so i try to stop but i never realized that about myself you see it in yourself so a person who's who's upset by an impersonation i think on some level they're just afraid to see themselves to make my own uh porn play with just men that would be a lot of fun with songs and this and that you know and because i think we're going to trigger this kissing okay sign up um i have three different um i have three different uh what do you call it uh scripts that i wanted to develop but uh i just don't know you know i'm gonna make it time i keep i keep trying to pretend that i'm a real rabbi and i feel like if i do a big play production i think it might take it away we fell for it give me a second i don't know if i should do it anyway anyway yeah it's it's a problem moyo said it very very good and i would just add that that uh anytime that mix is what you're saying as a person with talents and we have many different aspects of us every once in a while for a guy to to show what his gifts are and to put it on stage put him up there put him in front of guys and to and to be out there and express and it's it's a nice it's an opportunity but also like when friends get to it's it's an exercise where people get to appreciate it and and laugh and enjoy with their friends and enjoy and then and then appreciate the gifts that they have appreciate what hashem's given them i think that's very powerful wow amazing yeah i i think the world nowadays is getting more open to do these type of things like waterberry you know what the problem is when you talk about the world things are dividing so much you know what do you mean people are either moving to the right or they're moving to the left but trying to maintain that balance it's very harder so in in the real there's certain circles in clay israel where the guardian principle is passing you try to close it in more and more and more i just did a whole fila series uh on the podcast and um i just want to read next up next next episode i want to read some of the letters that i got it's amazing how many people said that they felt like they're enough to discourage them from davening it was like yeah it isn't just just you know so it's a problem so there is within society a certain aspect where people realize it's not working you know there are certain things in the in the uh way things are set up that aren't working and other people do their response to that is to double down and make it more intense yeah and try to claim down hard yeah i think some of us could relate to that maybe it's a it's a big problem because you know look i i went to have a time you know and uh ravenclay boards uh i heard the story when i was in yeshiva so it was making the rounds i hope i hope i'm not playing everybody's covered roshaya cohen have you ever show your car yeah uh if i already won yeah yeah oh yeah he's tremendous he's unbelievable underground yeah and uh he wanted to come together time and his parents were afraid to learn go to this yeshiva yeah so the so his parents told the rest of shiva we'll let him come if every sunday he can come home and watch tv with us wow what would they say today interesting we can't have such a boy now you should well she said of course i can get a guy for six and a half days and all i have to do is pay a couple hours and i should go and watch tv so but but you have to have you have to you have to be big enough that you understand you know how how the world works we'd have a similar special ever you know and barcelona would be playing the guitar and his father with moisture shape would be playing the harmonica yeah it was there was there was a feeling to encourage people to be able to use their talents in i i feel like in certain circles in clydesville that's being stifled how many times do you ever hear where a boy says this is that and and the baby says just learn just learn just learn just learn you know it's always saying that's uh yeah i wanted to add that personally like growing up like but it's a in the yiddish credit world it's it's a lot of torah which is amazing thing and sometimes not every kid is amazing at learning and a lot of times doesn't have a lot to like look at himself and be like oh i'm so good at this and that's where he picks up lots of music or something else and i think that when it comes into like the jewish world and like we appreciate people's other talents more it gives him more uh i feel like self love because he just feels like he's struggling and learning and like he's like ah like i don't know like what i am now like i just i feel like i can't but really he just needs more like self-confidence he connects to that body on the way to the other towns like i must not be good at other things too right exactly probably right no that's a good point it's like i'm not i'm not i experience this myself because i have so many learning disabilities i haven't even identified them all every time they find a new one i have it you know and dyslexia and focusing all kinds of problems and i was never really successful with learning and in order to overcome it it takes a tremendous amount of confidence and i didn't have any confidence and i wasn't getting it from the people around me they just said if you cared you would try harder no no one knew what learning disabilities were they just said he's he's lazy he doesn't try he doesn't care he doesn't know i cared terribly but i just couldn't i looked you look look at the page and it's out of focus and it's just words words and words and words you know and aramaic with no punctuation and no no vocalization and no anything it's just like yeah i'm sure you tried very hard and so eventually i went in csy and i became uh a legend basically uh i tested positive for being a larger i started i started in l.a in l.a i wasn't i wasn't a legend i was an actual god i could have started my own religion it was la in the 70s i mean i could have i respect yourself i could have made myself i could have made myself my own little compound and stuff you know i mean anyway i didn't have enough motivation to become a god anyway so uh at least you understand yourself yeah listen you know that's what when i came when i moved to la i moved back to long island it was great because there you know uh they don't have that same sense of of or that they have in la it's like [Laughter] excuse me brings you back down to life you know what i mean but uh but you know when i had the confidence then i was able to go back and i could i was able to face it but a kid who doesn't have that confidence and doesn't feel like he's successful so then what happens he's he falls by the wayside yeah it's not a cutesy thing either there was there was music in the basement that was like a very real thing that they did created the whole time and and the i think it's the mate frame he says the the gunam that we use on yom kippur or the yamarajam have the ability to be chuva the music itself it can uh it can move you and you know that you can listen to listen to music i want to talk about music in a second but maybe let's do a song yeah so actually this song is perfect that's all i'm about to say because i want to talk about music next yeah so this one we're about to sing is a song that because it's not a release song it's called the anika vessel kimberly type which just happens to be my favorite puzzle um i have a lot to say about about vanity vessel um i would say that two years from now the next time you get on the show yeah i'll say my fifth fifteenth yeah but uh no there's something over the course it's very interesting but nick wrestling really represents i think a lot about this it's when you're close to hashem like things are good but not just good like nice like okay speaking of limitations i don't know if we should do it as we're speaking about it oh no it's not a farm no but um emotion that has a ways you can put different voices here you're going straight you're doing great turn around turn around you're going the wrong way keep going don't stop ever this relationship on the left connection's on the right but i'm sorry so this one really represents a lot about this side there and close the marriage onto the highway it's the [Music] for writing the song the family by the way are so talented and composed a lot of songs should be coming out they have a lot of really awesome songs coming out they always make great pizza right right that's that's his actually the family no the relationship i'm just kidding no that one of them is a caterer yeah the father yeah that's that's different [Music] [Laughter] the time [Music] the [Music] [Applause] [Laughter] [Music] [Applause] please [Music] please [Applause] oh [Music] [Applause] me [Music] so like you spend a lot of time like singing and playing as friends this time yeah i mean mainly make a little bit of time for music yeah because it's like i i i it's very uh margie it's very it's very uh an emotional kind of a thing that has a tremendous power you know when i was in when i was in yeshiva river he had a digging he was always used to saying well he was learning you know it was just i don't know what what the original was etc but he was always sometimes i i personally can find it a little disturbing when you're sitting there trying to learn the guy behind you is doing a concert you know i do everything i have a good reason why because it gets me into turn it gets me into learning it's not me it doesn't get me into that yeah i i i do everything that's what he tells us i know it gets me ready and then i just learn from now and then he asked me why i don't want to come back get my next guy no dude it's not you it's me yeah yeah yeah it was sometimes the singing i'm thinking but i don't even want to do the tune but there was the guys were listening to some kind of a song i know it gets stuck in your head you know sometimes you get a song stuck in your head and you can't get it out you know and i started singing this song and the guys come up to me and say baby you don't want to sing that i won't tell you what the song was oh it wasn't like that was very nice but the words are horrible and i didn't know because i never heard the song i just heard the tune people saying it i never either when they came over to me and told me what the actual words were i was surprised yeah but of course you know sometimes with music you can't always tell you know um who is it who wrote that song when his kid died because i know up in heaven um james taylor maybe or something like that that is a beautiful naked it's a beautiful thing but you know right so it's music becomes very becomes very tricky right you know i i mean you you you hear music sometimes but there's nothing about it that's that's jewish you know that that's exactly what you're saying we were talking about a few days ago yeah it's i'm saying sometimes you could hear a jewish song that's not jewish and i'll not do a song that's very much jewish this song over here where he wrote this song about his kid who died it was so moving it's so beautiful you know but uh it's like shoots i wish he was jewish we lost one oh man somebody told me that was schwab had told his family they should listen to classical music because it's closer to jewish music than contemporary jewish music wow and that's that's that's when he goes i guess somebody how that could possibly be and and someone explained to me i don't know i don't know enough about music to tell you this that classical music came out of the gregorian chants which were taken from the nigunim in the base of mikdash that's what they say so that there's that's it's complex and it's on a very high level and uh you know it's um and mostly shapiro said that he heard from desolate that uh classical music has a certain power to it that uh you know as opposed to um certain songs that are just like you know now sometimes the might be nice and it's just the orchestration you know when you have a you know all the reverb and the little kids screaming okay i get it but yeah you know they asked us to be the the next cabral yeah actually you mentioned this oh good thank you very much we did a waterberry concert with abraham bergamot and david in brooklyn a few years ago so we met with ellie garcia and she has to do the next club and we haven't uh we couldn't do it but now that you say this i i don't know if we should do it it it could be listen sometimes it's so interesting because i did this routine this routine is at least 30 years old maybe 40 years old i remember how long it was but you remember miami had a song by seattle na na na na na na [Music] [Applause] no [Music] and it sounded so familiar to me and then i realized it was another song that came out around the same time that went like this [Applause] my [Applause] you know you don't even realize sometimes where those songs are coming from now i you know i heard a story years ago i don't know if it's true i'm not pissed off corona don't check these things out but i heard a story about this rebel who heard this in the street and he thought it was really nice but the next tit she used it [Music] and uh you know so it's a tricky thing with music actually there's a song by whatever stuff that it's a cover of an andrew's song by jordan smith and it's called only love and this is like at the peak of kobit when everyone's like laughed in their homes like like serious uncertainty and everyone's like very just like not sure what to do right and this song like just it came out a few years ago but it went viral again around then and the words are like only love can save us now keep the world from from burning down like just like a super positive message like you could find succumbed all these stuff obviously every kiss is like where magaya the song and we say we sing it in the b we sing it and they put it out it's on the water gonna set the page and from like i think that's like a big example of like how we were saying before right we could take a message we could take a mess and that that and it actually ties into another like cool cool idea of like why do why are people running to not just music why is jewish music not providing what what jews are looking for as much and if jews are looking for you know more upbeat music and that's why i love that shipiro than what he's doing because maybe now a lot of people aren't listening to you know bruno mars bruno mars is great but one of us bears better right but that's what they argued about with the uh with the they said uh this is you know because it was a time of all the boys bands you know that were going around like you know and um was it boys on the block and uh he's talking about nervous come to think they're great so they say oh so it's like uh you know it's like a methadone clinic you know i mean right listen to this and it sounds like the same gracious music only it's jewish you know right so a big thing i think i think uh into was and i think a lot of people are getting more into this now is is actually he he said he said means not just we also we say zeke lee van veyro why why not key lane we say this is my hashem and he encourages people to have like guys to have their favorite puzzle and write english words to the puzzle because you hear a song a lot of times like i don't know what this plastic means the tune's like okay what if like there was like english lyrics and that's why uvnei by the way it's like there's expression in the english and then it connects to the high and and there's a big indian and like sticking in you like bring it make it yours say your words you do that i always felt that way about someday it's an old song someday we will all be when guys like what could say like i wrote a song he was like show me show me because just seeing a guy express his heart into a song and realness and i think um i guess everyone feared like everyone who's sitting next to me like was trying to deal with their music is trying to just bring realness and that's what i think yiddish is that more just nice connection and he needs to like talk to someone so why did lipa get to so much trouble [Music] i don't think that was the song that got him in trouble it was the lion sleeps tonight that for some reason just pushed everybody over the edge i don't know why i'm the first to make his album they have a song [Music] called [Music] nobody got upset but and and there's been so many versions of people using these kinds of the sadder is the famous one of those others what do you mean what is it that's foreign that's uh what no that's different because that's a that's a that's not that's not that's not that's not and it meets all the qualifications of a person and that it is incredibly annoying what's the worst thing every every purim song has to be annoying the gunfight began forgotten become the gum become forgotten because we can't become the gunfighter can't be gone because [Music] right and after the six day war there were all these israelis that came out like you know you were right right one of them was sharm sheikh [Music] it was a secular israeli song and you hear people belt it out to a dawn alone i don't why was that okay so okay maybe we could just say it feels jewish you know i i've i was at places where they did uh draw your crew at the scarborough fair by uh some of the garfunkel droids [Music] anyway now i heard and i never checked this out because like i said not pesach chrome i don't care i just say whatever whatever i hear that he said that he got that tuned from his grandfather who wrote it to uh to uh to draw your crowd interesting listen there's no question that certain songs are considered more jewish or sound jewish that's kind of yeah but there are like certain songs like to me don't sound jewish in the wool walking like this 70s pop sound to it it doesn't sound jewish at all it's a neutral sound a jewish sound different yeah i asked somebody once uh how how do you mod do it and they said it's not the tune it's the it's the orchestration the message the message for example there was uh i think it was i think i'm trying number one i think so you're telling me now she's sorry [Music] and uh you just yeah i feel like it kills the uh the effect of what could have otherwise been a nice name sure you still want to shout out to your third cousin yeah no i do that's your point i don't know how you what defines within the music itself right so that's why that's why like if you if first of all i want to go back to what you said before how you had a certain tune in your in your head like there was a guy i had a friend of mine who there's certain times where if you're in a public atmosphere for us high school he decided like you want he wanted to get everyone singing a certain song so you would go to different parts of the basement and go to this place you know it's swirling why'd i hear the song because like it just just goes in you hear it going okay now i was hearing that too that first thing i would say but if you look looking going back to levi's carousel i came and everyone everyone's personally attaching to what talks to them which which you see more and more in the days like the the the old 90s the 70s the 80s a lot of songs are about like the theme about mashiach about like any concept of of we wanting mashiach or they sing a lot about er to straw someday was a good example you brought but that was like a unique unique thing of its kind if you look how how the revolution of how jewish music like like like comes comes about there's usually like in the past like what i guess more when i was younger it was like one song an album with like head maybe an english song now you'll see like now you'll see like a few an album you'll see you'll see like most right abroad came on but even then it was like people are very skeptical but but clearly clearly the the as the generation like moves on things things are moving on and people people have not that there's a lot of is one of the most beautiful songs that i've ever read right and it's written afghan english sure yeah so as i'm concerned that made shrek his career that's what i think right because he was okay before then that's why he's a singer he's not an amazing singer right you know what okay is he that much better than w bay wow now we're having a debate over here it's a political debate i don't know it's it's muslim yeah it's monster and he's incredible i know people give it up for me sure they have thousands and thousands of people listening to it i have a duffy only shoe i give every day i have six people you know if you want we can it's it's mazel it's mozzarella this is a puzzle there are certain people who uh aren't necessarily better singers than anybody else but they have mazo and other people don't have muzzles i don't know why i'm sure they're like so kurt who wants this person out there to do this exactly and somebody else not that's the answer with moshe shapiro was never successful at starting issue every year that he started it never took off you know and uh and it's because the kurdish borough who wanted him to be available for kaiser and so that's what i think i mean i'm giving my own interpretation but i've heard it from other people you know that he gave he he gave like 40 share him a week to all kinds of different places all kinds of different things and if he had yeshua that would be his his you know roshan varuva would be in that issue so uh you know i i don't i don't know how these things work but but i don't know that it's just the question of that i think it's there's certain songs and certain people that are just masalia yeah you know right you're sitting next to one of them that's also true yeah we did that with the last time yeah it's very popular if you look at songs like tatiana king or there's more and more we see more and more of the jewish history so much more english than has ever been before and it's that what people a lot of people are in this something already especially a lot of people are looking just for something to not that it's charles bad not that not that aristotle is definitely very colors but people are are connecting to other things let's say with an english concept before they're before they're addressing the shia before they're addressing the suicide it's of straw and people are just expressing what's how they won't connect hashem and like you know we enjoyed seeing money everybody's trying to now we see a new trend there's a new trend going on right now that like even a negan and they can used to be worried strictly hebrew people are putting out songs of of was a bit making like a negan sound but the english english words and so much more we see it's it's because people people want to connect with people right well back in europe there were plenty of songs that were written in yiddish that that people were able to relate to i see them are killing it right now yeah right music [Music] i i can't imagine that song being in hebrew or you're probably very into in those days i'm still into it and i don't even speak english there's a whole bunch of these you know i see this music it's very back in now like big time they're taking over and yeah like a lot of guys like they're calling it the highness playlist you know why there's so many of them so obviously you you create your own marketing marketing i know but they're really tough and people don't appreciate this because you know i spoke to uh spoke to his fellow his father was a rebel and i said to him you know you had a family business why did you become a rabbit you know you could have taken over because he said to me do i look like a rabbit he he didn't want to go that way but but he says you look at the day you think that's what it was this is he says the rabbit cave he had nobody you know the gary river came here so he had nobody these people showed up with nothing the bells are became with nothing and they built it into these enormous uh it's such a tremendous accomplishment it's it's it's mind-boggling what they were able to accomplish and it built hasidis into what it is today yeah you know so yeah they have their own music they can do anything they want you know and you have that bigger market well everybody said i could do this for hours and uh it certainly is such fascinating topics that we have to discuss we'll have to have you guys back but let's do one last song and uh then you know uh on the show we added this segment where we do uh answer questions from the uh from the listeners so uh i'm gonna i'm gonna have to take a couple questions and uh that's it so uh welcome to your boise thank you so much for being here this was uh such a celebration shabashira the you know shira is a lotion of shlamus right as opposed to uh a zemer zamer says says zimra is because zamer can also mean to trim a tree to to prune zamir he says sugita zimmer is to remove all the other makhsavas so that then you finish with azyoshi shira ishlaemus that's why they didn't sing shiva when they came out of it's rhyme only until they saw mitsuram dead and they knew that the story was over did they sing a shira so shabashira before that we have actually a little gift for mommy [Music] [Applause] [Music] all is thank you [Music] thank you [Applause] [Laughter] dreams [Music] is [Music] it's going on for years and we've had a loss because of all the therapy courses you are a natural songwriter i am so talented why don't i make any money anyway okay i want you to do this listen my birthday today it's also the anniversary of my heart attack i was doing my grandson i had a heart attack they carried me out and uh and i said to my wife i said oh my gosh i'm going to die on my birthday and only tadhi can die on their birthday and i've worked my whole life not to be attacked and it turns out i was right but that he said it coach borough miraculously kept me alive and uh it's basically to be a prop at my grandchildren sunfish that's the only reason i'm still here anyway yeah go ahead is [Music] [Applause] the sea please don't ever take away your love from please don't ever take away [Music] oh [Music] me [Music] us we don't ever take away please don't ever take away beautiful all right so question and answer what is your favorite instrument i would have to say a cd oh i was talking about a financial instrument uh you meant uh you know it is so hard um because uh you know obviously a guitar is is a lot of fun because you can take it with you anywhere and you can always play it you know i i was once at a kum's at somebody i was playing guitar and i was sitting with uh uh dear dear friend shmuel claver who's one of the most famous drummers you know in the music business and uh the guy's playing the guitar trendy says to me so nice to have an instrument that i could just take anywhere and just play that's why i learned the drums you know so uh everybody everyone has a timer to be a drummer whenever you see a drummer everyone comes up and says can i play and she will said to me once he goes understand if you're better than me you're just going to make me look bad if you're worse than me then who needs you so like you know just go away but there's a time that everyone feels so that's fun a piano has such a range to it the things that you can do my my son-in-law uh avi lieberman plays the keyboard and it's just such a beautiful beautiful thing you could do so much different types of music you make with that but personally if i had to sit down now at this point in my life and learn an instrument i was trying the one that i always wanted um is a trumpet really wow and why i thought of that before i love trump it's because the the sound comes in with such a power to it you know it has it has a power it's very interesting because i had a dream last night and i was that i left [Music] convention he sings my weddings yeah he asked for yeshiva man so during the banquet every now and then they would do a musical number so at one point i was fooling around you know they asked me and i missed my head on some you know my sunglasses and i was playing with one of their trumpets you know they're like no i don't complain and all of a sudden motion short says take it away and everyone's stuck i had no idea what i was doing but it sounded pretty good so i guess maybe that was why i feel like you know the trumpet was just there was given to me at that moment all right um we have another question if steven sperm spielberg was a completely orthodox jew not working on chavez doing only kosher work he wouldn't be able to create movies like jaws or indiana jones isn't that denying the world entertainment and denying him his creativity so first of all let's say yes yeah and guess what um if there wasn't drawers in indiana jones i think the world would be just fine i don't think that that was something that entertainment is basically to get people to escape from reality it's not like there was no moral message in jaws right you could try afterwards to darshan and say well it shows you how how governments don't really care about their people they're like that's not the reason it was because you want to watch a big mechanical show like eat people you know i mean that's that was the basic message over there you know but there wasn't indiana jones didn't have any underlying message to it anything any any kayak you know so uh so as far as that goes um would that be denying him his creativity why he he couldn't he he couldn't make films for the firm community that would have meaning that that could touch people there's a desperate need for that but there's no market there's no market so so let me so now i'll tell you a story there should be movies in the industry i was uh i was living in in la i was in l.a living in the valley and i was teaching at school and one of the kids their father was a hollywood agent and uh and he said to me kid you got what it takes he said to me he says i want to represent you he says we're going to put together a stand-up routine this was in the late 70s that's when all the comics were coming you know have uh we'll put up a stand-up routine and i see you having your own show in a few years and i thought about carpool karaoke here it is yeah instead of seinfeld it would have been relaxed and i thought about it let's say he's telling the truth you know i've become very successful so first of all everybody thinks they're gonna be successful right and uh and uh but let's say he's right yeah the odds are very small and let's say i could keep my religious standards very hard very hard to be from uh stephen hill when he became from he was originally starring in the tv show mission impossible and uh it was tucker mission impossible to try to be from and do a show like that you know and that's why his hollywood career really didn't take off after that you know he basically was in lauren order where he could slump in the chair and go i can't go to a grand jury with this i need more evidence you got to get the widow to talk and that was all he did you know those are the kind of roles you know i mean when you're from you're not they're not making you an action hero you're not doing a you know uh romantic comedy you know okay but let's say i could somehow make a show just you know keep keep all of my videos etc you know um i don't know how i look in a web but anyway but uh but uh it's it's it's so it's so difficult to be able to try to do that but but let's say i could so and let's say i i i managed to stay from and i have my own show and i become very successful you know and the end of my life i get up to shemaim and the kurdish borough says to me so what'd you do i said what are you kidding you never saw my show i was number one you know for six years yeah everybody watched it was great and you can see this episode that episode this one that one you know and i was like i gave you koichus to be able to use entertainment to be able to reach cloud israel and you decided to spend it on yourself so what did i give you the koichu school so you think kurzberg who gave steven spielberg these tremendous creatures so he can make jaws you know or e.t you know because i don't know if his mother's still around but i remember when i lived in la she had this this little cafe in westwood kosher cafe and that she had posters of all her sons you know movies you know and you'd go there it was the food was very good very nice place and she would say do you know my son stephen the reason why i never met him but you know he says you know yeah yeah he makes movies yeah yeah absolutely now you ask yourself at the end uh when they both get up to shanime who's the coach brooklyn going to be more impressed with the front lady who who ran the cafe and uh you know and and spoke to people and was much beyond them because her son was steven spielberg or steven spielberg you know the biggest hoos that steven spielberg has in his life is there's an asia torah dinner where he was speaking at and he says i should tell you do so much wonderful work i wish you were around when i was a kid he says afterwards he regretted saying that he didn't know why he said it but you know they put it in all their videos now imagine that he was from and he used all of his kaijus whatever that means i don't know what that means you know so um i i always had this joke to be an entertainment in fact when i used to teach in certain you know programs and not and you know secular people used to come from l.a there were people who were producers and would act etc and i would do my stuff and then afterwards i'd say what do you think could i make it and at one point i had a stack of cards of agents they said call my agent uh uh you can you can make it you can make it so kenzan kenza and i could have made it you know in that world and you know instead we have the rabbi alonsky show yeah yeah would why you so i'd rather have jaws or robertolovski show let me tell you i'm back from a trip to america and i every place i went people were coming up to me and they tell me they watched the show and and i told them i don't know this seems like more people than i'm able to track the numbers one person said to me i don't even know this he said to me well a lot of people call in to torah anytime either because they don't have the internet or they don't want to spend their minutes you know what i mean and so they call in i don't do we have any way of tr tracking those yeah all right now we're up to ten thousand and thirty two but anyway the numbers keep going so therefore gives you everything in this world everything in this world is neutral you can use it for for a vote of hashem or you could use it for yourself and uh you know it's it's up to you how you want to use those koikas to be able to go in this world so if all the wonderful movies that were made by steven spielberg hadn't been made and instead he used his quest to be able to reach jews and bring them closer to torah i would imagine at the end of his life that would be a much greater thing when he gets up to shemin and i'd like to believe that even though um you know my tv show didn't take off instead hopefully the podcast will give hezek to people and help people along okay that's it for this week thank you so much everybody we are only filming the show we haven't even um put it online and we already have 300 views so i don't know how that's possible but that's how popular this is so thank you to everybody who's here and thank you to a wonderful talented group of uh young men who have joined us once again and uh thank you so much everybody for for watching i'm deborah lowsky and this is the raviolsky show it's the rabbi orlowski show torah and simcha ready to go the rabbi orlovsky show knowledge and wisdom will help you grow lots of fun in every episode and we don't have to rhyme no it's the rabbi orlovsky show on rabbi 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