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um I used to teach a uh a course in
orola it's not really clear what my
course was I had to develop it you know
one of the things about or is they don't
fill a job they look for a person and
then they build a job around that person
which uh um is definitely intelligent
intelligent thing if you if you're
looking for good people anyway they
brought me in because of my experience
in cim and they brought me into the Ora
program now at the time Rabbi Le was
teaching and his course was about
ronus they had a Moy who was coming in
and teaching about Mila even if you
weren't going to become a my just have
the basis and background to it um they
uh the head
rabet who was a m to teach about and
they had different people when they
brought me
in um as far as I could tell my role was
to teach about
kirim and uh maybe the better way to put
it is informal Jewish Education
Mel ISAC shom who was the principal in
ohav sholom of Mer's uh Hebrew school
for many years said that the
BJ uh the board of Jewish Education had
done a study and found that informal
Jewish Education is much more effective
than formal Jewish
Education and that's why he was a big
supporter of ncsy which I was at the
time and uh and he said that this you
know this can be so much more effective
in a child's life than sitting in a
classroom and learning so uh sometimes
when I would be teaching I'd be teaching
the idea of informal education I.E a
shabbaton a shabbaton is an unbelievable
opportunity to be able to teach people
um about chabas in an informal way you
learn it by actually doing it in fact
I remember we would get our food
primarily from Meal m and so we serve to
get filter fish and chicken soup and
roast chicken and potato cougo and you
know chent all all that Jewish food and
uh somebody said to me why don't you
serve food that the kids like you know
spaghetti and meatballs you know stuff
like that so I said two reasons uh one
is because then I'll have to buy more
food like this I know at least half the
kids aren't going to eat I save money on
that I said but there's a bigger reason
I want to teach the the part of teaching
chabas is shabus food and there's a
reason why we eat what we eat right
gilter fish was developed because of the
iser of
Bor that uh when you eat a piece of fish
it has bones and people are going to
pull the bones out of the fish that's
M so what they would do is they would
debone the fish mix it up with some
stuff stuff it back into the fish and
then cook it up so that real gilter fish
I've never seen it in America but you
can buy it here in errell is essentially
a slice of fish usually carp with its
fish around it and the gilter fish is in
the middle and um
eventually someone came up with the idea
of leaving out the fish entirely and
just taking the filling and making them
into like Canad you know matz BS and
dropping them in the water and boiling
them that way and uh that became geil
fish but the term geil fish is Yiddish
uh the way you say fish in Yiddish is
fish and the way you say to fill
something is to geill it so a geil fish
is a f fish that was
geil and the whole reason that geil the
fish is to avoid um uh to avoid having
to you have a problem with B yeah uh
chant is because you wanted to have hot
food on uh chabas so they would have
food that could sit on the stove for a
very long time like um Busa Shore the
gamar brings an example Ox meat or beans
which boil for a very long time you know
that if you just boil up beans they're
going to come out hard they have to boil
for a very long time till they become
you know soft and edible so someone told
me and I don't know if this is true but
like I say I'm not peson I should have a
ref I just repeat what I hear and uh
that in French sure
is hot and lent are beans like lentils
so sh lent is hot beans I don't know if
it's true or not but um um that's why we
eat chin so there's a reason for Jewish
food and let them um let them get used
to what uh what y eat and uh that's one
of the reasons that we have such a high
percentage of heart
disease you sit down to a shab as lunch
and you have a chant and you have kishka
and you have cgle and you have chop
liver and then you go straight to the
hospital your cholesterol is coming out
of your eyes you know it's shooting up
this way but um but be that as it may
you know it's a experiened and we would
have discussion groups right they would
call them educational sessions as
opposed to classes and um they were more
often than not discussion and on topics
that the kids would be interested in and
um you know it was
uh very positive experience yeah so um
that's the uh uh that's informal
education uh one of the classic forms of
informal education was the uh model
seder that they would have in Hebrew
school where instead of teaching these
kids about a Seder they would actually
have them act out a Seder and see what
it's like that's informal Jewish
Education never chance to see it um I
had when I was teaching Hebrew school
Mel Isaac's had the whoever was teaching
the oldest class had left and he asked
me if I'd fill in so when it came time
for the model seder I mean these kids
are already Barbed by Mitzvah age I
wasn't going to do another model seder
for them instead I had them come in and
prepare food for the Seder now most of
these kids didn't come from House that
were even koser for PES and I taught
them how you makeas and how you uh I
brought in a broiler we broiled the eggs
and the and the and the and the bones
you know I I had them check the lettuce
the Roman lettuce I had them grind up
the mo you know the horseradish and they
just came to life in ways that they
never did in a class because it was an
informal Jewish Education so uh when I
ran ncsy I would make every year a ski
trip up to some ski resort um and it was
almost always sold out yeah 4:00 in the
morning everybody standing there some of
them had their own skis Etc and someone
said to me what's the purpose of this
trip you know I mean you're essentially
a cur of organization I said because we
have a three-hour drive up and a
three-hour drive back and I brought a
lot of advises along who could just sit
and shmoo with the kids I have a captive
audience for six hours they stuck on the
bus besides the fact that while
everybody was out skiing I would sit in
the large and uh sip a hot cocoa and uh
you know as the kids would come in I
would sit and shoo with them um you know
I would take the injured kids to the
hospital and gave more time with them
you know so uh uh you know it's an
opportunity an informal educational
opportunity to be able to affect people
so so I taught a course on how to run a
shabbaton and how to prepare an
educational session and things like
this and part of the course was how to
answer basic questions on
Judaism because I find this is one of
the scarier areas that people encounter
when they consider getting involved in K
of rokim they say to me what do I do if
someone asks me a question
that I don't know the answer to and
they're terrified of this so uh so I
would first give them an introduction of
how to answer
questions and then I would go through
sample questions in different categories
that people get asked most often and how
to give an answer to them it's not a
definitive answer
um uh I
remember Rabbi Josh Hartman was teaching
um hash issues to the guys and at one
point uh he was going to deal with the
question
of how can you have free choice if a k
already knows everything and the guy
said oh RAB alasi already answered this
he said like this s hutman looked at
them and said I understand but you know
other people have spoken about
it because what I did was basically you
know Snappy answers to Snappy questions
I did not by any means go into it in
depth
yeah I bring an example that I was doing
a question and answer
um in Texas and one of the girl advisors
and the questions were not for the
advisers it was for the participants one
of the girls advisor says to me do you
allow girls to learn
gamorra now I don't know if you could
pick up the hostility in that question
but obviously she felt that girls should
learn Gara I guess she anticipated that
I was going to say girls shouldn't learn
gamar so instead of asking a question
like do you think girls should learn
gamarra she says do you allow girls to
learn gumar so from the hostility in the
question it was obvious
that she wanted uh to paint me you know
as a flag burning Stone throwing woman
hating K
extremist and uh I decided not to play
the game so I said me I don't allow or
disallow
anything so she tries again does it
bother you when women learn gamor now
that's not a question what are you my
therapist does it bother you when women
lar so I said no it doesn't bother me
but both things don't bother me maybe
things
should so she finally comes up with a
question and she says if a girl would
ask you should she learn gamorra what
would you tell
her I said why you obviously don't care
what I think she's like what I said you
think girls should learn gamar right
goes yeah I said yeah I figured that out
from the way you asked your question so
what are you asking me for you don't
care what I think you think girls should
learn Gar so my opinion means nothing to
you no no no I'm just curious no you're
not curious you don't care what I think
so why are you wasting my time but by
now some of the kids caught on and
they're like no we also want to know
like oh they could care less these girls
couldn't learn gamar they can't learn
kage you know but okay so she she forced
the issue I said the mishna says that
for a girl to learn gamara it's tius now
however you want to define the word
tifus it's not good he goes I know but
when the gamar said that it was talking
about a different time they didn't
understand girls they didn't understand
women they didn't understand the way
they thought they were you know
stereotyping them they were this that
all kind of things I said oh so when the
gamar said that they didn't understand
women right they didn't have proper
respect for women right they didn't
understand what was going on right then
what do you want to learn it
for now she had nothing to say
now one time I was driving r Shapiro
someplace with AMI Cohen D Cohen's son
and he told this over to R Shapiro now I
never tell any of my stuff because I'm
oh I'm gonna just get killed you know so
he tells him over the whole thing and ra
go says you understand that's not the
real answer and I said of course it's
not the real answer I wasn't trying to
give the real answer I wasn't getting
into the topic because I was dealing
with someone who didn't want to hear
what I had to say sometimes the gamar
has what's called
a is not an answer I just push away the
question and the answers that very often
you give and that's what you'll see
sometimes they'll give an answer to it
saduki and then theor will say okay
that's what we said to him but what's
the real answer because we didn't give
the real answer to the saduki we just
eliminated his question
most of the time in my experience most
of the time and I'm generalizing but
there's two types of people those who
generalize and those who don't but
generally when a person's asking a
question that's not really their
question so you want to just get the
question out of the way so the person uh
can get down to the real
topic uh I had a friend of mine from
Toronto uh Scott
Goldberg and uh he came to Israel the
same year that I got married and he went
to learn in ASA Torah to study the
proofs of
Tor I said okay anyway he was there for
six months at the end of six months I
said so how's it going goes I'm still
not sure I said one second you know
rberg always has a rule you know be a
judge and not a lawyer you're just
judging the evidence what did they say
that you found problematic he says I'm
not sure I said well what are you not
convinced about what are you still not
sure he goes I don't know I said you
don't understand it no one's going to
answer this question for you because you
don't care about it he said what I said
nobody cares about it nobody lies awake
at nights thinking was there mad har
wasn't there mmed harai the question
that you really want to know is how come
I'm not happy
and looks at me and says yeah how come
I'm not
happy so uh he looks at me and says so I
just wasted six months I said yep I said
so why didn't you tell me right away I
said because you want to believe me you
were so sure that was your question you
were so invested in it I when I used to
teach gar sometimes a kid would ask a
question they'd build up the question it
was a very simple answer and they right
away no no that can't be it no my
question is so good it can't possibly
have such a simple answer but most
people just ask questions to ask
questions posing questions that would
cross a rabbi's
eyes interesting No in fact
um
uh there's uh there's places where they
used to haven't asked the rabbi question
session now they call it stump the
rabbi that's that's ridiculous what do
you mean stump the rabbi if I have an
honest question don't I want an answer
to it the answer is no I'm just asking
the question to see if I can catch the
rabbi a gcha question H how do you
answer
that so um so I'm working with the
Assumption okay so let's let's take this
apart there's three types of people who
ask a question the first one are people
who's enti entire
life have been dedicated to this
question the odds of you saying anything
that's going to answer their question is
slight Dem midling because they're so
invested do you really think anyone's
going to explain the Holocaust to Eli
weisel oh guess I shouldn't write any
more books there's the answer no and I
always bring that as an example you
can't answer the Holocaust for a
holocaust Survivor because they're too
invested in it and the in the question
they'll get too upset and it doesn't
even matter whether your answer is
correct or not it's not going to do it
for them having said that I remember I
was once in San Diego by rert
walant and this woman said Rabbi I
survived the Holocaust how do you
explain the Holocaust and I'm like oh my
gosh my biggest nightmare right so what
could I do I couldn't I couldn't weasle
out of it so uh so I said what I heard
from m B MTI burer was in John's
Hopkins and uh the priest who was
teaching the class noticed he was
wearing a yamaka and at some point he
says you know I've never understood why
Jews have a problem with the Holocaust I
as a Catholic have a problem with the
Holocaust because everyone agrees that
the Nazis were pure evil come down to
the world whenever they want to depict
somebody as evil they say a Nazi Hitler
right that's the epitome of evil so the
epitome of evil wants to destroy good so
if Judaism is the true force of good in
this world that God appointed I
understand why the Nazis wanted to
destroy them but I believe the Catholic
church is the true good in this
world Hitler didn't want to destroy the
Vatican didn't want to kill the pope
didn't want to destroy Catholics
he only wanted to destroy the Jews so if
I was a Jew and I believe that I was the
force of Truth and goodness in this
world I know where the Nazis wanted to
destroy me but as a Catholic I can't
possibly understand it and this lady
said Thank You Rabbi that gives me that
gives me perspective well that was the
best I was able to do obviously but
someone whose whole life I remember this
reformed Rabbi put out a
book how nobody can prove that God
exists
and someone wrote me a letter with the
blurb and said why don't you contact him
and prove to him that God exists and I
said you think he's gonna be
honest and and then turn around and and
say uh you know um oh you're right I
better recall all the copies of my book
he wrote a whole book about it he's not
going to suddenly change it just because
I give him an answer he'll ignore
it and that's why you have to know know
if a person who's asking the question
even wants an
answer so sometimes a person will say to
say nothing anybody says will convince
me there's a God go
ahead you know how many people I see who
fall for this bait not me they say
nothing anybody says is going to
convince me go ahead I said no no I
believe you you're completely
close-minded and nothing that anybody
says will change your mind no no let me
hear what you have to say no you don't
want to hear what I have to say you're
convinced that no body is going to prove
to you there's a God and I believe you
and so I'm certainly not going to waste
my time now because it doesn't matter
what I say at the end you'll say you see
I'm not
convinced so why should I waste my time
so sometimes and this is very important
when someone asks a question you have to
differentiate between what's a question
and what's a
statement when this woman said to me do
you allow women to learn gamorra that's
not a question
that's a
statement when someone says I think
Judaism is unfair to women or I don't
think the Torah is relevant to today's
world or I think all of these Orthodox
Jews are
crooked none of those are
questions and when someone makes a
statement well I don't want to
acknowledge
it I don't want to be that I said well
yeah I hear what you're saying anything
like that my go-to is
oh
oh and for most people that's enough
because they didn't want to hear an
answer they're not interested in an
answer they're just making a
statement so why would I engage with
someone who clearly doesn't care about
what I have to
say and the older I get the more
convinced I am that most people aren't
interested in what you have have to
say most people just want to hear what
they have to say as Dale conie says and
How to Win Friends and Influence People
key people can listen to themselves talk
about themselves for
hours they don't really care so people
will come over to me and say something
and I'll be oh and they're perfectly
content with that on rare occasions
people say do you agree and then I'll
say no
why not oh there's a
question then I have to decide whether I
want to engage with this person or I
will say as I said to that girl in
Dallas what do you care what I have to
say your mind is already made
up so I have to make that decision on
the spot but if I do give an answer the
answer is going to
be to get this question out of the way
cuz sometimes people don't care about
the
question the question is just a question
right stump the
rabbi I've had people's all this is
people say to me can you prove there's a
God yes I thought you can't prove
there's a God yeah I can really yeah oh
want to hear it
no how come Judaism is unfair to women
it's not really yeah I thought it is
nope
oh how how come uh you
know people are keeping Judaism is
outdated and I said it's not it's
relevant today it is yeah all the
Mitzvah yeah
wow you want to hear how
no sometimes they'll make some kind of
outrageous statement and I'll just give
a quick response to it you
know uh uh circumcision is
barbaric no it's not barbarians don't do
it huh
[Laughter]
and that's enough once in a while almost
never someone actually read National
Geographic instead of just looking at
the pictures and they say no there's a
tribe in Africa where they also do a
circum okay fine now we'll talk about it
but most time people don't even care
just ask the question that you may have
experienced this sometimes someone asks
you a question you actually know the
answer and as you start giving them the
answer they get this bored look on their
face
sometimes they even say stop preaching
to
me and you're like but you ask me that's
because you made the mistake of thinking
they care about their question they
don't care about their question they
don't want to hear your
answer now that's some people right
that's a minority of people who really
are dedicated then there are people who
are serious questioners they'll ask you
a question and you say that's very
interesting there was a whole book
written on this would you like to read
it yeah I'd like to read a book on the
subject you know there's a whole class
on this do you want to come to the class
or I have a I have a recording of the
class yeah I'll listen to
that that's the second category the
remaining 95% of people ask questions
don't care at all about the question and
so the more time you invest in answering
their question the less productive it is
for you and for them they don't care
about the question so you just need a to
get the question out of the way so they
can deal with whatever the real issue is
that they're
asking and figuring out what the person
is actually asking uh AR Khan when I was
in Discovery we were on a question and
answer panel me and aric KH and mty
perer and he told me you side once he
says don't ask answer the question
answer the
questioner figure out why this person is
asking this question and what it is
they're trying to arrive
at that goes a long
way to being able to answer the
question
um Rabbi Brickman who runs the Der
Yeshiva and or he told me that uh R Le
was once doing a question and answer for
the
boys and one of the boys said
um how do you understand
laich and he says the first thing he
said is is anybody here a
laich and right Brickman said to me that
was such a brilliant question because if
there was he would have probably
answered the question differently
because he knows that there are people
who are sensitive to it and so you have
to take those sensitivities into
account when I was asked to speak for a
time which are people who have been
married for a long time and are
childless so
um you obviously have to answer the
question
differently than you would for people
who have children how do you deal with
childlessness when somebody asks you
about the death of a child and they've
lost a
child then you understand it's a very
emotional issue and you have to answer
it differently so you answer the
question for the person who's asking the
question
therefore the biggest most effective to
tool you can develop is the following
phrase what do you
mean because a lot of people answer the
question that they think the person is
asking as opposed to answering the
question that they're actually asking so
there's an old story where a little kid
comes to his mommy and says Mommy where
did I come from now of course she's been
dreading this question you know have to
explain about procreation where do
children come from and so she talks
about the birds and the bees and brings
out charts and big bees and Little Bees
and explain everything she can to avoid
answering the question and when she's
all done she says does that answer you
question and he says
no Bobby says he comes from Philadelphia
where do I come
from so if she would have just said what
do you mean she would have saved herself
a lot of time
a girl once asked me a question about
women's role in Judaism and I went into
a whole explanation and she was annoyed
because I didn't answer her question I
didn't start by asking what do you mean
so the next time a woman asked me why is
Judaism so unfair to women I said what
do you mean they said they have this Big
M and I can't see the service I said why
don't you sit up front she said what a
great idea thank you that was her whole
question
so it really helps a lot if you can
figure out what they're really asking
now I was speaking once at a forum
answering basic questions and I gave
this
introduction and I said okay are there
any questions that you anticipate being
asked so a guy says yeah what about
daving
I said okay like I said let's define
what the question is are you asking why
do we dove in in a set form why can't I
just make it up why do we D in three
times a day uh why is it in Hebrew uh
why do I DAV doesn't already know uh
everything that I need what's the
different forms of what's your question
and he goes I don't know I didn't think
about
it and people just throw out questions
without even thinking about it what do
you mean so I probably have told this
story before um I was listening to the
radio once before Tish and there was
this English uh fellow who had a program
on the English news you know on uh Co
Israel on the English Pro program and he
had a reform and Orthodox
Rabbi uh whether or not uh Tish of is
still relevant
today so uh he asked the Orthodox Rabbi
and he says yes because the temple was
destroyed
for for worthless hatred and don't we
see hatred among the Jewish people today
and so it's still relevant and they
asked the reformed Rabbi and he says no
of course not yeah he says why would I
mourn a building that was destroyed
2,000 years ago the Jews have come back
to Israel we're rebuilding every place
you live we're building there's houses
there factories there's life TI is
totally
irrelevant so then he said to the
Orthodox Rabbi so you want to see the
rebuilding of the temple and he said yes
I do with animal
sacrifices and you could hear the
rabbi literally gasp
like you could hear it on the radio and
then he began to discombobulate well of
course one has to understand when we
talk about these things I mean there is
a view that there'll only be uh
offerings from the vegetable Kingdom of
course that's not a majority View
and and he was literally melting like
the witch at the end of Wizard of
Oz and he turns to the reformed Rabbi he
says you want to see anal sacrifice of
course not ha ha every was laughing and
new ta Rabbi was
dying and at the time the story has to
be almost 35 years ago I didn't ever
think about it and I realized that for
the grace of God so would go I I didn't
think about it and there's a general
rule when it comes to answering
questions and that is fool me once shame
on you fool me twice shame on me if you
get asked a question and you don't have
a good answer to it then go back and
think about it and work on it and talk
to people till you get an answer that
does
work and take time work it out make sure
that it's something that you're
comfortable with that actually works
someone asks you a question and you get
an answer and the answer doesn't work
for you be very
wary you know the the the guys in the
program would always say to me what
question can you answer I said a lot of
them has to do with I'm talking about
how wonderful Torah is and they point to
Torah observant Jews who are not so
wonderful so like they say how could you
explain Orthodox Jews who smoke
when we know today that it causes cancer
and empyema and heart disease we know
it and I always said I don't know how to
answer that question so one time one of
the guys said because there haven't been
any studies done on people who smoke for
six days and rest their lung for the
seventh okay I'll try that and next time
the question came up I gave that answer
and a cardiologist stood up and said I
have the numbers for you rabbi by they
die like everyone
[Laughter]
else somebody said to me how do you
explain um these uh you know when people
say these Jews and may sh who throw
rocks at
people so a guy says I've I've been
asked this and I said do you know anyone
who's ever had rocks thrown at them it's
an urban legend it's never
happened I said okay I'll try it so the
next time someone said to me I says it's
an urban legend you know nobody May
charm throws rocks at anyone so guy says
I was on the remote Road when people
were throwing rocks I said but it wasn't
May shm
right other guy said I brought a group
and someone threw acid in one of the
girls' face I said but it wasn't a
rock and I realized I was stuck in
defending the indefensible it's a bad
place to be you don't want to be in that
position so don't give an answer that
you're not comfortable with and work it
out and work it out I had this problem
when people would ask me you know women
who wear Shad why is that okay needless
to say that if a woman was covered up
from the neck to the waist and all the
way down to her wrists with a seethrough
outfit that would not beat sonua so how
is it okay to put a head covering
on so uh I had different answers that I
tried and they would always get slugged
up it took me years to I could come up
with a right answer auna was another
issue that took me a very long time till
I could come up with an answer that I
was satisfied with the other answers
didn't work for me so you have to have
an answer that you're comfortable with
but the first thing you ask is what do
you mean make sure you understand what
the question is so I had heard this uh
question about animal sacrifices and I
sat down and I thought about it what
would I say and I spent a long time on
it six months later I was in a question
and answer and sure enough someone asked
me the question not that anybody cares
about it nobody cares about the answer
and this guy says okay Rabbi what about
animal
sacrifices because whenever a rabbi gets
asked that question they G like the guy
did on the radio but I'm prepared I've
worked on it says okay Rabbi what about
animal sacrifices I said what about
him now he wasn't ready because he had
never really thought about the question
he just knows that rabbi's gag he goes
you're killing animals I said are you a
vegetarian no how do you think they get
the meat think they go over to a cow and
say could you spare a rib
well I'm not there when it happens I
said no problem you can appoint a hit
Cohen to take the cow out for you you
don't have to do it yeah but uh but uh
it's barbaric why because barbarians do
it barbarians eat lunch they eat lunch
not everything that The Barbarians do
are barbaric you
know so the guy was stuck he didn't know
what to say cuz he had never thought
about the question he just knows if you
say this rabbi's gay
and I put the onus on him to explain
what his question was I said you know
what let me see if I can restate your
question I understand it's okay to kill
animals for a purpose like eating them
is there a purpose to animal sacrifices
was that your
question uh yeah oh that's a great
question okay the ramban asks it at the
beginning of a yikra let's go into that
but
I refined the question by getting him to
ask it I'm almost positive I've told
this story before but it's one of my
favorites in
1995 um there was a Shabbat by uh yavi
yavi is a worldwide Collegiate
organization that mostly exists in
Europe I don't know today if it's still
around but and they would have uh at the
end of May what they call the Shabbat
and every campus would have a Shabbat
where students would come it was a major
event and most of the
time uh you know would depend on the how
many Jews were there how active they
were but the
largest yava branch was uh in Leeds
University and in fact Chief Rabbi
Jonathan Sachs was slated to be the
scholar in residents for that shop
because it was the biggest one but as it
happened May 1995 was the 50th
anniversary of VE Day victory in Europe
and the queen asked the chief Rabbi to
please join her for the ceremonies so he
cancelled on
them and it's pretty close now they've
already used up all the good speakers so
they're kind of stuck so they call
me would you please come to our Shabbat
and leads it's the largest one I said
okay but first I have to call the Queen
and cancel so I canceled on the queen
and I went down to Leeds University and
I spoke I think I went over well but
they had a much larger turnout Friday
night than they did shabas day but
shambas day as we're sitting at the meal
a guy comes over to me and says You Know
Chief Rabbi sax was supposed to be here
and I said I know he says if he came I
wouldn't have come and I said why is
that that and he said because I'm a
progressive Jew and Rabbi saxs doesn't
like Progressive
Jews now if you've been paying attention
till now you know what my answer was
oh and then he said to me what do you
think about progress of Jews and I said
look I'll I'll tell you the truth I
don't know what it is um we don't have
it in America is it like reform he says
no it's not like reform I said is it
like conservative he says it's not like
conservative I said what is it and over
the next five minutes we came together
to a few
conclusions he had no idea what
Progressive Judaism was but he knew that
he was one and he knew that he didn't
like Rabbi saxs because he didn't like
Progressive Jews and he liked me because
I did not have a position on it because
I didn't know what it was and neither
did he and by the end of the meal he
decided he was going to keep
shabas but why do I have to answer the
question what do I have to provided for
you're telling me what's my position on
Progressive I don't know what it means
and I say you explain it to
me I don't know what it is you know I've
had situations where people make these
statements they use this very fancy
jogging to ask some kind of question and
I say I don't know what that means he
goes well if you don't know what it
means I can't explain it to you I said
give it a try I'm a pretty bright guy he
says no no no if you don't know I can't
explain to you one time I kept pushing
the guy it came out sounding uh sounding
too argumentative so now I just say okay
and I turn to the crowd and I say one of
the hardest questions to answer is the
one where the person asking the question
cannot tell you what the question is so
when you figure out how to explain to me
what your question is I'll be happy to
answer it until that point I'm really
not interested in answering it because
there's no question here other than the
fact that you're insisting I have a
question that you can't
answer so uh so I always like to put the
the onus on them so when it goes to
answering a question you have to figure
out first of all is the person sincere
number one number two how invested are
they in this question number three how
much time are they willing to give
you number four make sure you know what
the question is that they're asking and
where the question is coming
from and then you can spend your time
answering the question in as short a
period as possible like I say if you
have part of the 5% of people who are
actually interested in hearing your
question and will actually spend time on
it okay now you have to get your sources
but I have developed a series of short
answers for uh people who are not
interested in hearing a long answer that
are essentially theas that will
technically answer the question without
you know getting too deep into it so
that if a person's really interested
hopefully they'll study more but at
least it'll solve the initial problem
and uh we're not going to have time to
do that in our context obviously if you
have been listening to my podcast when
we come to the question and answer
section that's part of what I do some of
these questions are questions that are
there but I have a more massuda way of
doing it and uh I
uh uh I have been asked a number of
times can I do this as an online course
and teach people how to answer basic
questions on Judaism so I didn't get
much response to the idea of starting a
pavos course but perhaps this is
something that interests people and if
uh you can write to me on my website RAB
ali.com if there are enough people who
are interested in such a course course I
will offer it to them to go
systematically through all of the
different questions that people ask the
basic
questions uh in Judaism and how to
answer those questions so again you know
how to reach me and you know how to find
me and uh that's the that's something we
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you I assume you're not just looking for
a translation because you can get that
in the art scroll um I said this those
of you who are on my online UHA she when
I started at the beginning I said you
know one of the problems with daving I
say is that people don't know what
they're
saying people say to me no I have an odd
schroll and I say so it used to be you
didn't know what you were saying in
Hebrew now you don't know what you're
saying in English if you want to transl
you can just go to one of the
translations obviously you're trying to
figure out what the understanding of the
braa is that we say if the food that is
not fruit of the tree which gets its own
braa because fruit of the tree is very
important as we will hear when I speak
about
tuat um and it's not about bread or wine
or the shim all of which have extra
special meaning it's not talking about
even vegetables which have a extra level
of of
stuff like milk and eggs you know things
like that when you eat them instead we
make
the so let's try to get a little
insight this is a very
important because someone did a
calculation how much it would cost if
you had to make a roast beef sandwich on
your
own you would have to have land and you
would have to plow it and you would have
to seed it and you would have to harvest
it and winnow it and thresh it and grind
it and everything necessary to make the
flour to be able to bake the bread then
you'd have to have a cow and you'd have
to raise the cow and then you'd have to
sh the cow and then you have to Sal and
soak the cow and you'd have to go
through all the process necessary to get
the meat and then if you want to put
some lettuce and tomato on it forget
about it it will turn out to be $1,000
easy to be able to make one by scratch
if not more whereas a rast beef sandwich
is much cheaper than that if everybody
joins in together so if the farmer does
his job and the and the uh flower Mill
does their job and the baker does his
job and The Herder the Rancher does his
job and the sh does his job and the
butcher does his job yeah and then the
restorant gets all of these things and
puts it together for you it'll be much
cheaper everybody was born with
lacking it's almost impossible for
somebody to make it completely on their
own Jules Vern wrote a fascinating novel
called mysterious island where these
people escape a Confederate prison camp
in Richmond in a balloon during a storm
this is quite a storm because it blows
them all the way across the entire
continent of North America out into the
Pacific Ocean into a deserted island in
the middle of the Pacific that's some
storm really unusual especially when you
consider that the winds in the world
Blow from west to east and this was a
storm that took them from East all the
way across the Appalachia mountains
across the Rocky Mountains out into the
Pacific Ocean quite an unusual storm but
anyway they land on this island and they
have nothing and there's a guy there
named Cyrus who's something of a
scientist and he figures out the most
amazing things but even Cyrus can't do
anything there's a guy there pencroft
who is a um a sailor and he knows
certain things that other people don't
know and everybody has something to
contribute to it so even though Cyrus is
very very smart he can't do everything
himself and so you can find somebody you
know the old expression jack of all
trades master of none you can find
people who know a little bit about
everything but of course certain people
are going to be more expert in different
areas and uh be able to speak about it
in a different way so uh everybody has
their job
and a farmer probably is not going to be
a
weaver he might know how to weave a
little bit but he's not going to be a
weaver he can't be a weaver and a
tailor and a
doctor know and and and be able to do
everything even a self-sustaining Farm
has to buy their equipment they're not
doing
Metallurgy to be able to make their
tools everybody needs people in this
world and so after we have eaten we say
you've created many different people
with many
lackings yeah in
order to Keep Us Alive it's all of us
working together no man is an
island yeah a person can't do it on
their own it takes a
village
yeah keeps the all the different types
of people in this world alive everybody
has their contribution and through
the benefit of Commerce everyone can
work together to be able to survive and
that's why when Yakov ainu comes to sh
it says he made an improvement Rashi
says he either made a shook a
Marketplace so people can do business or
he created coinage so people didn't only
have to relate on barter to be able to
do business when everyone works together
we can make the world a much easier
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