Shuvu - Reinventing Education With Shuvu CEO R’ Michael Gutterman And R’ Avigdor Fried (Ep. 240)

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woke up and you hear the term shuu and you don't know what we're talking about that's the only explanation I can give everyone who is part of the Jewish Community is familiar with the term shuu but most people do not understand the extent of it and what is involved involved and so we have a very special episode with us today we have the CEO director founder a chief cook and bottle washer of shoua with us gotam and uh and our good friend of the show you have probably heard his name many many times our good friend a vior and he among his many many many causes one of which is me that he's always trying to keep me solvent but besides that he one of his causes is shuu and we did a parl meeting together in Lakewood and he said if you have a chance uh when I'm in ell I want to bring Raman and be able to you know make a uh make a a show together to let people know about it and so vior is with us and that is my briefest introduction welcome everybody to the rowski show thank you very much okay now let's uh like I say everybody's heard of shuu but most people have no idea what it means other than it's doing very important work so where did this come from who thought this up what's it doing and why okay that's it otherwise I don't have any question thank you rovski for inviting me for fre and really shuu is really something that maybe it's probably the best kept secret because a lot of people actually don't realize what it's doing under the surface and on top of the surface I don't want to tell you something I read that at one point the government discovered what they were doing and tried to defund them because they didn't it's almost as if they worked hard to stay under the radar so nobody would know what they were doing because they were making as we say here in Israel a in Israeli society that nobody knew about so did you pick up that Jo liberman saved the day this a very of knew knew what they're doing yeah and he stepped in to then it was very anti-religious was one point when the labor government came in and they found out what Shu was doing and they wanted to close him down that's why I okay let's let's start from the beginning let's start from the beginning the beginning was that the Al from Russia in 1990 was was started and it was very big there was about a thousand coming every day W and there was a there was a feel obviously something has to be done for the coming mean among the from people not among yeah sure sure people but here and in the US people I heard stories of Russian imigrant who came across who in Russia as refus niic kept shabas when they came to Israel they put them on the docks and forced them to work on jobis that's what iuk so B there was a feeling that something has to be done and there was a good Jew called Las from he was the head of he once here would come AA convention he didn't speak any English he would speak in Yiddish but his job in from was to come to America and speak at the G convention he heard that that year in 1990 November 1990 Ram was going to make the main speech on Thursday night so he said I want to go to Ram's house he went to his house spoke to him about the Aliyah that was coming every day a thousand Jews and something has to be done and RAM was he had he did he in Vision what Shu was no no no there was no he just said we got to do something he came was the school system in Israel so he came actually as a of thinking that maybe those could go into which which wasn't really feasible because there was there was no CER between who knows nothing and but he him a lot of them are secular so they're not going to go into no but he came as as the head of to speak to Ram what can be done to work with the Russian Jews so Ram had a whole speech prepared and he was speaking about Yash there was he was supposed to speak about Yash in business was is and Tom he had a whole speech prepared and everything was prepared and once he heard he just got very moved and he says know this is going to G and I'm I'm now changing my speech my speech is going to be about the Russian Jews coming to Israel and what can be done so he spoke that was Thursday night at the AA convention and on shabis he made a little meeting to see you know who who's the Asim who would come to the meeting a lot of from the convention Mr the late Mr Mr Sheldon Baron the old big names from they they met they met in the room and this is very interesting and he he P was in the room and then he see outside he saw somebody walking past the door that was a Beerman a bman was a young guy at that time he was he was the in the government he was on the cach he was had big positions in the government and he was a tamid ofam so Ram says hey hey you you come in also so he came into the room and then Ram spoke to the there 20 30 people there something has to be done for the Russian Jews coming who who will be in charge and you know and then he pointed to Abe abman and abman became the chairman of Shu from the first day but they still didn't know and RAM didn't know what can we do what should we do before the Russian is right something has to be done but what can we do so what what did they do they sent out a Mission to Israel aam took three a if you heard the [Music] name he was very active in Russia and the third one doid singer who was active in said you go to Israel speak to the speak to everybody there and find out what can be done for the Russian Jews so they came to Israel and the first mistake they made was they put a big ad in the hamodia and we are here from America we want to see what can be done for the Russian Jews anybody has good ideas you should come to the plaza so for two days the door didn't stop going around to the plaza everybody hears in the paper that American Jews are coming to give out hand out funds for projects so everybody came with their projects repres said he says in America people come to give me money and ask me advice when I go to erel they come to take my money and give me advice video so they they actually after the two days also met everybody they came back very mixed up had such a pile of different proposals all kind of areas give them jobs give them Apartments give them there's so many things you can do for the Russian Jews that they needed everything so they came back to RAM and asked Ram you know we did your we're back here okay and very was is he was he said the Russian Jews they came for the the children he compared it also him and also to to a tree if you have a grown-up tree you want to move it the roots the strong roots you can't move it it's it's already if you want if you want to be mat plant new seeds plant the seats and then you'll be he said if you want to work with the Russian Jews work with the children the children jobs and all these other things is very important but the main reason why the Russian Jews also came was for the future for the children so apam made two decision how did apam know that because one of the things that they finally found out is that more than anything the Russians care that the kids get the highest level of of Education he knew this he KN he F he felt was today is called the vision of he he foresaw something that nobody nobody knew this no no nobody knew that number that's how we beat them out cuz they weren't giving them that kind of Ed's eventually going to tell you that is known for also secular that was always the fact that figured that out I think the Russians were more interested in the secular education than they were in sure they want but they did want they did want Jewish identity which they didn't have in Russia so they wanted High level SE education and basic Jewish Education soam said go and number one we have to work with number two it can't be done on remote control you need to find somebody who is in Israel you know we can you they saw from the two days they were here you know need somebody on the ground so the the definition of who they wanted was somebody who lives in Israel and he not Israeli so I F that I that you're from where I'm from Den she from cop ah yeah I'm the that's that's that's Danish different language I'm I'm made in Denmark seven generation Danish my family old Danish family and I I moved to Israel I started and after in so they were looking for somebody because I was working at the time with Mr Zev wson he was at that time making schools in Russia and in in South America and his his main guy which I'm sure you knew in Israel was RAB elzar rosna remember he lived in I don't I think this the most important guy I know was was my neighbor in hanov I was living in Denmark moved back to Israel I was working in K there and working my father moved back to Israel and then uh the first week I was in hanov in the I walk in the on the street in chabas and I meet a neighbor and I said to my wife let's say good chabas to a new neighbor Rabbi rosna and Rabbi rosna after shab we spoke to him for two minutes after shus he came to me knocked on the door he's running volson's operations in Israel he needs somebody to run his office so I got straight away when I came to Israel I got the job to work with I was a town ofner in ason he was a big big what were you doing before that before that I was I was in Denmark I was working straight from Denmark you came to work for Wilson yeah yeah good Lord yeah yeah it wasn't easy that's a good prop but but but Mr wson is also a very special very special personality did great things for clim how was your Hebrew at that point it was it was okay I was I was four years in m so I had an engineering degree so I spoke I spoke good Hebrew but still it was to be thrown into make I went to Russia and and we made schools in in South America in France what all this under wson under RAB Ros I had two years of shim wow after two years I get a phone call that this new organization is being founded called shuu they're looking for somebody to run it in N soil maybe I would consider the job I said I'm I'm working with Mr RAB Ros everything is fine why do I need this so I went out to RAB rosna he was my upstairs neighbor I used to say he's my bus he's on top of me also in the office and also at home I went up to him was I said there's this new organization and they want to work with the Russian Jews but I'm very happy by you what should I do said go for it this is a challenge for you I need you but this is more important for cl so he was really my in so so then it started there are very few people who see beyond their own uh Nas to be able to look for CLA yeah he was that's an amazing thing he was one of them so so then I I basically started after they decided we want to make schools for the Russian gay make shoes schools for how where do you start what do you do but you were making schools already in South America and other places so you knew a little bit about this is a different story you'll see when we started we had we made a lot of mistakes because we thought in Israel you can just you know you just open a school and you register the children it doesn't work on that I found out with the when the court came after me that how you opening a school without permission and so on but but the first two three years we T tried to work with blaz idea maybe get them into maybe try to get them into existing schools make extra curriculum for for but tried to get them in but we realize very quickly that's not a good they need secular studies on a very high level and the Jewish start you need to start from Al based you can't you can't throw them in for example when when the Russian came first to schools so the principal would say okay here's a takon for the school sign no no television no television what what M what are you talking about they had no no understanding at all so it took us like two three years to understand that is not going to work we have to make our own school system we we'll be under but it'll be separate schools shuu schools for these Russian children and for what they need and that's when I started who came up with the name Shu and what's the name where does the name come from you would thinku no yesu that after four generations the Jews four generation you'll come back to he said the Russian Jews cut off for four generation came with the name and so we kid say so after two three years realized we have to make our own system but I didn't know how it works so what happened was this is a funny story I went to ashalon cuz that we had a school there in we wanted yeah wanted to make a separate school so I said you know what I'll go down to ashar I'll go to the municipality I'll ask maybe they have a building for us I was very new and this so the kids are on the way had this old big phones you know like they had in the olden days and I called up yeah and I called up somebody Mota mot I scan there and I said I'm coming to Ash I said don't don't brother coming there's a today in ashalon nobody in Thea but I I knew that you know when when you decide something you you go ahead say I'm coming in any case I'm I'm going to the I came to the and the sh downstairs says what do you want said I want to go I want to speak to somebody in the says there's nobody here it's you can go in K I go in I walk up and I walk all the corridor and I every room is open and nobody's there but I said to I'll walk till the end walk to the last room on the left side Alex cman I look in there and there he sits so he didn't know there was he he was was and they were not in this they were not in the strike he's sitting there I'm coming with my James Bond and I say you know that's a sh case for you in America the kids I come in there and I say you know I'm representing an American organization we would like to make I didn't say schools we would like to make a program after school program or something for the Russian Jews here in Ashan do you have a building for us so i s you know he would fall down the chair but actually he said you know what we have some Caravans and some Park that you can use for your program so I took that and took it one step further let let's start a school if we have already the building there we'll start a school and I'll come to Mr Liber man so what happened was the first of sep you didn't ask why don't you just ask I I no because if you have for school the answer is you know that that I didn't know the answer is no they would say like this are you secular we have a secular school are you we have are they didn't know nobody would understand what Shu was before it started that's how it works in Israel you and then afterward you ask question you don't ask questions before so what happened was you establish facts on the ground that's how they built the country yes because the British had a rle that's why they drive here also if there's any empty space you can go the British had a rule that once you put up a roof you couldn't tear it down so they would come in the middle of night and they build just like things with roofs the Bri then they built the rest of their houses around it so yeah so that that's so bza the 1st of September we signed up 108 children for a school in those Caravans now why why did these kids come well these kids came because they wanted we offer them a high level sex education English Al mass and high level they didn't think they were going to get it in public school they don't get it in public but they knew it knew that they they saw very quickly where they all used to from Russia when you when you go into the class all the children stand up the teacher is respectful they come to Israel and the teacher sitting with with her legs on on the table they realize very quickly that this is not the kind of schools that they used to from from Russia respect even not Jewish respect for the teacher quiet during the recess and so on that that they already saw in Shu because we worked in Theo they realized they'll come with us and they'll be they'll be within this plan to open a school first of September 180 children we had teachers and principal and everything and slowly and you had no license with no license no nothing how many grades did you open uh I think it was first or fifth grade something like that yeah in one Go kid after a few days other schools calls up the municipality our children didn't turn up to school in Israel you have to there's a you know if if you're not in school it's criminal true and I don't know if they still have that in America do they still have they don't have schools in America so they were trying yeah they're trying to find out what happened to this 180 children who are not around till they realized that something popped up under the you know under the radar and there's a school there and children are there and she children want to be there so the first try to send out letters like e m to the parents that it's criminal you have to send your child child back to the school where he was registered didn't help the parents did not want to go back they they were very happy very happy what did they do to the municipality and this this story with not the first thing is take away the Caravan oh would do there you go take I've been here for 35 years how do you do that how do you you take a bulldozzer right and you smash it down that's what they did yeah oh my gosh yeah ons with all your stuff inside oh yeah we still have a picture we have a picture still where you see a big hole in the wall and Shalom Al is still on the wall you see it from the outside because a big hole where they broke down the the cavern because they came on Aus the principal was the late Rabbi glass he was our principal for many many years lay down in front of the know to stop to stop the bulldozer and in the meantime in America the the wi spread that that the government is coming to break down shua school and so Liber man was the was the was the the honorary chairman of shuu so he sent out a letter Y was the the minister of Education this is the American organization so this didn't come from Ashan this came from the government no it's no it's it's a local it's a local but when when you have to Counterattack so they send it to I don't know who was the Prime Minister they know but they sent it to the to the minister of Education you know what what what are you doing in in as doing with aam himself was very concerned about this so concerned that he allowed under the second day Y in America to get somebody to call in from and with a loudspeaker to hear where is it holding with this what's happening with the school he was very very concerned and the M the end of the story is that the T broke down the building but it didn't help because we found the esim and we started the school in esim with all these children so we found a rim could you put 120 kids in five classes yeah okay you yeah you'll be surprised but uh we did we did and that school till today has produced thousands of students and and graduates but it started with you know it started with it's called you start then I realized that you you better ask when you want to make a school you better ask you know permission some but many places we had to do this way how long did it take you till you got a building there in as ashon is a very interesting story because all our towns all over Israel we have building that's now given from the government because the government once they or Thea once they saw that Shu was established and we have children and we are growing then they have to give you they should give you a building so what they would do they would give us old building that's a run rundown buildings we will fix them up and we we would make schools there ashalon is actually the only place where we still renting the didn't give us till this day didn't give us a building we're in a rented building but we're official it's official school but it's is rented rented premises and we're working still on on getting can still they're still hurt by the by the way we started but uh but this this is the way we we started our own school system realized that you have to build schools that are fit for these children and combines very high level SE education and basic Jewish Education the Big K is then it started to grow in Ash in we started to grow all over the country about 15 years ago in the middle of the road a little bit more two mothers came to knock at my door in the office one American and one is ready both in trousers and they said you know can they speak to me so they come in and the American says I came from America I'm secular I wanted to send my child to a Jewish Day School so I sent him to a normal secular school and I realized it's not Jewish and it's not a day school Lama n why are you just for the Russians why can't you be also for other that was the American one how how many years into this is about half the way this is about more than 15 years about 17 years ago now until then the you hire Russian speaking teachers no we we we was the sh that it's better to take somebody who's a good educator and teach him Russian they take somebody who speaks Russian and make him into educator so what we took we took Israeli teachers mainly we every school had one Russian speaking shal we called it who is the who is the connection between the home and the school but basically the teacher all the children catch very he very quickly he so our sh was take a good educator a devoted educator and teach him a bit of Russian but not not the other way around that that's the way that's the way it worked so so these two mothers and the Israeli mother was saying there's so much crime in the schools I'm scared to send my child to first grade L go why can't you open your doors for others for Israelis for for for Americans and then I realized that we're sitting on a gold mine we made something that you don't have in Israel which is called in in America Jewish Day schools you have a lot a lot a lot of parents in Israel who do want a Jewish Education with the children from school even has criteria you have to bebat to to come in for sure secular schools you don't get any Jewish Education where do you send your child if you want to try to get a basic Jewish Education at Jewish Day School sure and you you're house is not currently sh parents from I heard well I'm just going interrupt you for a second I heard there were Russians who didn't even want the lud KES but they wanted the secular studies on a high level they were willing to send their kids to this school knowing they're going to learn about Y in spite of the fact that they don't want fair so in the beginning we had to cover a little bit the Jewish part but as time goes went along no we can no they they want they want and you know I'm saying especially now with the with the War I can't even describe what's happening right now so many people are looking for understanding that Jewish identity but why they why they killing us what's happening the war you wow in B we have for next year 100 children signed up for 100 children you know what that means 100 secular children just usually 50 60 we like almost double the number of students because people realize that could be 100 families not just one kid so so what I did was after after these two mothers came to me I said you know what let's make a survey I want to understand maybe is this by chance or is this something that really can make a revolution in the country so I went to somebody called Mr Rafi Smith maybe you heard of him he's the biggest survey guy in Israel okay okay after SM I met him in Tel Aviv I sit down with him and I say I want to make a survey brother sh schools so he says to me what do you want the results to be in my business that M made as instructor that's that confirms what I've always thought about polls I said I was shock studies it the same way in my I'm I said but then I realized and then I said to no this is this I really want real survey he go oh my go we never done that how do you do that kid he made a survey and I have the survey still to this day this goes back many years almost 50% of the secular Jews in Israel would go to a school we defined what shuu gives and ask would you send your child would you consider or for sure send your child over 50% would send that means that you have a million secular children the first day first of September he would fast and he would say a million children are going to school and they don't know sh is and you would fast we have the opportunity sh is much too small and much I mean it's unknown as you said because we do want to work under the because if they would know what we're doing maybe they would f as more but instead of close to 6,000 children we should have 60,000 600,000 right now there 6 here yeah yeah that's right and lastek how did you get involved how did I get involved you mentioned Beerman a Beerman is another a Beerman a cousin of his in Staten Island who's also very active with SH and he's with art scroll he's top brass in art scroll him and ruen finin is the ti is the head he's the no of Shu and I'm a tal of Ru and on top of that ru's anle Eisenberg is very active with shuu also so between those things I went on a mission they had a mission and we went to to see sh's wait how often do you have missions that come in from America we have we try to have at least once a year in anybody who's who's come like Victor so it's not just for V it's for anybody who wants to come yeah and see what CH does yeah yeah but anybody who comes gets hooked on it and and and wants to do like see that's what what I'm here for actually cuz what happened was I went on this Mission the high point of the the highlight of the mission was of course visiting chw schools and also uh we made a barbecue for theim which is very very nice and special but the point is when we went to visit the you see you know all these kids come from secular homes and they love this school they love the morot they love the the rabbis they they love the school I went with my wife my wife is very hard to get her to go places and to be she's not she's you know like they say born in Missouri you got to she has got to be convinced bottom line is you know there some little girls took her by the hand instead of walking around with the with the mission they took around they want to show her everything SLE day whatever the point is when you see what they're doing and the way they're doing it I I personally I'm a cff person I'm also for many years I've been on the I was on the board of Ura which is another fantastic organization this there an organization to support in America that does tremendous C with the Torah mates thousands of them affecting whole families whatever but I'm not going to talk too much about Ur at this point because he had to talk a little bit about shuu but the bottom line is in my mind when I saw what I saw I mean they're doing the heavy lifting these kids come from secular homes and they the interestingly the the man man for instance of one particular school I went to and a few others the people who are running the schools and the principles and so on they are products of shuu so they get it they know what it's like to have to come from a non-observant home and they and the love they show for these kids is just fantastic and and they it's a 24/7 job to them they're they're dedicated they're super dedicated in other words that this not just a job them they invite the kids for sh they invite into their houses and they're so close with with these kids I was just blown away and to me as someone who K means a lot to me I thinking to myself they're doing the heavy lifting I spoke to to and and we discussed I said is it possible and to me I also told this to somebody it's a game changer if you could Tak have instead of six or 7,000 children in in their system 70,000 10 times as much you want a revolution one second one second forget about 70,000 you're saying there's a million kids who would come I say half half a million first 500,000 secular kids who would sign up for a shuu school if it was available that's that would change Israel in one generation in 20 years you would change the whole country that's the but again you got to have theu said it's possible but it's a hard very very heavy lift type of thing but it's definitely something if someone gave you the money right now someone gave you a billion dollars to open up as many school make Revolution last you could you could accommodate 500,000 kids you could build school we have to build the schools obviously it's a process but last week especially they keep tearing them down like anymore last week somebody came to Israel to visit shuu a person from America who has the means and he said give me two days just to go around and see your schools because he made a lot of research and you know everybody has their opinion he says it's good it's great this one says no don't so he wanted to see himself so he went around for two days by the way the second day he came to school in in P to the high school of girls we have a tam there who is a daughter of y s who is y the head of is his daughters audience doesn't know what you li liberman's Russian secular party okay so super anti-religious super anti he's number one guy sends his daughters to shuu but he told me like a year ago I have contact with him in theet he told me as long as my daughter is not telling me what to do she what she wants to do she wants to go the religious way no problem she shouldn't tell me what happened last week this fell came we went into her class and she was telling about the shabbaton she just had with the class and she was side to saying about the H that she has under her cushion and then in the end she says you know what my father started saying Kush this is this this is this get who said I'll take you'll get him in trouble okay so don't don't tell this to anybody but but it means that it's making Revolution and he can make Revolution even by the most because this fellow came but what it means is that everybody who is worried about Israeli politics and they're talking about fighting this and fighting that Etc if if they put all their effort in to building shuu to bring in 500,000 kids there would be no more fights we would have the whole country so this fellow wrote to me so how come nobody's beating the drums I'm telling I'm tell why isn't anyone let me tell you why why is the rowski show the one breaking the story yes because this I'm telling you this should be everywhere everyone should be talking about this this fellow on the wa on a flight back from Israel he wrote to me from the flight a business plan and the business plan was in 2040 1 million children in shuu he saw it he but we need there's very big today in CL Isel and you hear this this this billionaire buying a chain of hotels here and buying this why don't they invest in not just that it can be in the long run it's not even going to cost money a a school once it's up and running tuition and so on is self-sufficient we have to get people to invest in the future of this you know what's going on now with the war and withn I'm not talking about I'm talking changing the state of Israel the entire country is going to turn upside down how is it that the secular people don't know about this okay so we're keeping it because we don't have enough suits do they know about your study that no I don't think know about my study no because if so the first thing I would do if I was secular is start adding some Jewish studies into the public schools yeah so tell you a story there was AOW stop all the knives and guns no there Professor from came to visit our school a few years ago a sec secular guy Dr and he went to our school Ines he wanted to see our English Department but then he asked can I go into the lies class I said sure he went in he didn't want to leave he sat there for an hour and afterwards he said to us I want to make your school at there something called a model school from it takes a year to do the process but but first he said to me who's the professor behind you know I said to him professor p and I gave him the book of but then then we had a year of trying to get into this program and at the end there was a big meeting with him Dr T two sh principles all their people from been working with us to prepare all the paperwork and then this TW says to one of the secular ladies present the case why shuu should be an example school and it's quiet in the room again present the case no word we look at her she's crying she's saying I'm 25 years we try to teach yud goes in here goes out there here's a system that succeed let's learn from them and we wred in and then they asked me what what is your secret I'm answering your question very simple if you want to teach math you don't have to live math if you want to teach yish kind you have to live yish our teachers realize that they are the ones who can change around the home there's no the parents are not there they are the second home or the first home so they are the I always said the co of our generation is the teachers and we have so many teachers answering all question all those teachers let's get 500,000 let's get jobs instead of them going to America knocking on doors everyone's looking for the for this solution this is the Sol is they do it with love not with fighting not with screaming they do it with love listen I don't care if they do it with drugs if it works it works I'm a very pragmatic person if you're telling me that we can solve all the problems in Israel the religious problems the fighting the this the society everything by by building these schools and changing everything you said you asam's Vision Ram said from the first day the future war in Israel is going to be fought in the classrooms right what did he mean I told you that mitz last week we had MIT for 400 children I said that this meant the fight that's going on now from the outside is because we are not strong enough inside there's no there's no if we if if there's of Shu in the schools that's going to win the war you see what's happening in America on the college campuses it's because the left and the Arabs made Ain to take over this the universities because when you control the schools then you can do anything you want that's said the future of Cl is going to be decided in the classrooms exactly like you said if we want to make a change here we want to make the RAB just recently I heard him on a wine he mentioned that you know that the T that was read recently was in a vision told to marry a lady of ill repute and have children with her and the whole the whole story over there but the point is he says CL so we've tried every kind of Harlot so to speak to to Mar over the years and then eventually come back to doesn't leave us even even then and one of the things he mentioned paganism he mentioned Christianity we tried that we tried that we everything we tried every mishas included in the latest mishas was wokeism woke the woke thinking is poison it's Absolut poison and it affects Israeli society as much as it does American society the rest in Europe and so on and the only way to fight that kind of cultural Decay is with presenting the beauty of yish we have we have good there is what to sell here and I keep saying sell with love in other words they don't bang you over the head and say going to go to Gim if you don't keep the Mitzvah and whatever these kids they t g in what shabas is and what Kash what being a Jew is and as was mentioned earlier there many kids who don't know what is is in this country they don't know the k finish the sentence in English they have an expression if you build a better mous trap they'll beat a path to your door so you have the better math when's the next mission when are people coming the next mission probably beginning of the new school year it's ready the school year is finishing now I'm going now I'm on the way now to we have a Yun today Conference of all our principles and the the subject is how to give Gish we have brought in somebody from South Africa he's Landing this morning you know the name a big there but he's big in how to teach to the young Generations so we I'm running now to the to the conference of our principles and uh can I interrupt you you don't have to wait for a mission I spoken to a be and the others and yourself also anybody who can hear me I don't know which camera I'm looking at but anyway if when and if you come to Israel we can it can be arranged for you to visit a shua school there shua schools from the from All the Way North all the way south in the middle all over the place there shua schools they can first of all we have next week on Tu you ready to have 25 people call you right now and say I want to come first all call El to do person number 052 and is 651 8855 slowly they're taking out their pens there's 10,000 people now put up on the screen 10 to 20,000 people taking out their pen call me or Whatsapp me 052 651 885 5 go on the shuu site shuu usa.org and contact us and we we are ready we ready to we're ready to roll as I said you know as VI said we don't have to wait for anything people come invest in the future of of kis are you turning kids away because you don't yeah sure sure sure we are yeah that's like the stories they used to tell about uh rjj when it was the only the only Jewish school in New York and they had a waiting list of a thousand kids to to get in and a mother took her kid and sat on the steps say they can't go to school at least he should see what kids he learn and you should look like you who the father of zberg if you heard of him he's a big M wish zberg is from the of Shu whenever he comes to shua school and he sees a sha child he makes a shame he says this is not less of a of a joy than a new fruit and pass so there's so many more fruits waiting there to S and that low-lying fruit you know pick the pick the the easy fruit this is unbelievable so we have an opportunity I I again I have I have an audience they are fiercely dedicated it was to say but uh um but we need to get this message out to everybody I mean this this has to become a if you care about Israel if you care about Kira if you care about clel you care about children you care about Russians you care about Israelis you care about Americans then this is the address future so next Tuesday bruty who's together with frin it's going to be in M next Tuesday evening this coming out Monday so it's going to be tomorrow tomorrow anybody who is in m in the home of Mr bent philipson I think people know about him they can look it up in his home tomorrow evening will be R Elli bruty and he'll be speaking on behalf of shuu and I hope to be there myself if I can get a ticket but uh he'll be there he just landed yeah yeah just came back yeah going back again wow we'll write your biography Perpetual jet lag I I write I write I write the daily diary because the amount of nissing that goes on on a daily basis if you don't write it down you're not going to be a barbecue in R Kravitz's house at some point or another in Lakewood uh I was trying to get together I'm still trying to get together a group of the nowadays there are a lot of upand cominging young fellows young in my Minds anybody under 50 um that uh that they're not already signed up for another cause right so the point right well not take away from anything although I do believe you got to diversify your portfolio yes ofed also I've said that many times when I raised money for I was I am involved with the B stat Island so we handle situations stand on a lot of times but I tell people you got to have a a portfolio of sedoka different types of things so my point is in ER is kir is this is a very good thing for someone to have in their portfolio of of sedus that's uh yeah cuz I know you also involved in various political things here in there well trying to fight certain sociales I came to the conclusion the way to fight so social is to support stul no not with fighting not with screaming and not with whatever just a little slowly but surely you know every the beauty of this is every one of these children they're not going to necessarily become you know pich Ras or you know big Ritson or whatever it is the bottom line is they're going to have an appreciation for yish and they're going to love their fellow Jews and they're not going to hate or hate Keep It With Or Hate You know the other way around they many of them will become fulled sh so to speak and some of them will not but the point is they'll have an appreciation of what being a Jew is all about and they'll have some kind of an understanding of what yadus is especially right now because like you know uh the CEO of the Reel yowu show if I can say that you know um he uh he had was working on an organization that was just making titas for soldiers all these soldiers all they want is a pair of titas they feel like that that what they saw on on sh is that that will give them a special thing so right now if the spaces were open and available they would they would send the children to they would do it in a second okay so we're going to put up on the screen if you want to become a partner in shuu and as a always points out when we say a partner we don't just mean to write a check we also mean to write a check it doesn't have to be write a check you can do it online you know it could be credit card we don't care but but besides that to become involved because we have to get this word out there that people know about what shuu is doing I mean when you hear this firsthand and you understand the potential that it were holding in our hands and we don't take advantage of it it's a a lost opportunity that will take a very long time to come back who is it the Bas Isel who said in 1948 the the gates of of uh of G opened and only the secular Israelis took advantage of it the from didn't take advantage of it says now the doors of chuva opening why aren't we taking advantage of it so if this opportunity is here right now we got to make sure and try to take advantage of it and strike while the uh iron is hot if I can make a comment I was it was suggested and not mention money but I what can I tell I'm a businessman bottom line the bottom line is to dedicate a classroom for like $25,000 coming bring your kid here for B Mitzvah rment you can afford to bring the whole family here for B Mitzvah and the hotels cost a fortune everything like that $25,000 do a classroom I don't think it's you know and and this this young man will get a very very nice lesson and what it is to help other kids who are not as fortunate as him so could do that and or even just to support one kid it's $1,200 it's not you know and you know all these stories about how somebody has shown that they get credit for all kinds of mites they did I say I never did those things no you gave money to shuu there was a kid who was not at all observant didn't know anything and became a sham all his MIT because of you so you're getting credit for all that I know it sounds like a you know ver but it's true yes it really is true so my point is it's it's you really it's a bargain I'm a businessman it's it's you get a they do they're doing the heavy lifting they have the model and on our end if we could just if we're able to write a check it's it's a very good thing and for those of you who not in a financial situation to do that if you're watching the rowski show it means that you're an intelligent and talented individual which means that you can give from your time and your effort to be able to make programming and to spread the word to get that done so please even if you're not in a position to to you know help if you're in the position to help financially please you know but if you're not contact shuu and say what can I do to help how can I help to become an ambassador for shuu to be able to change around the world well so if you can get together a group of 15 20 of your friends you want to make you com together anyway for the spend the summer whatever it is I I know we can arrange a you know a mission for you to get 25 30 young couples you're going to come on the mission also I'm I'd be delighted I'd be delighted um unfortunately G man is a Gand but he has the another thing he has to actually work say we're sitting here talking about it so uh um that's it for this episode if you want to find out more about the show you can go to my website rowski dcom you can sponsor an episode sponsor a question and answer which is something everyone should do you didn't ask me to say this guys there's thousands of you out there support the show in a big way and thank you and by the way I will be in America at the beginning of July if anybody wants to see rowski in person or uh whatever state I happen to be in I'm willing to come for money so uh so I'll be there at the beginning of 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