Praying Together (Meaningful Tefila #9 - Ep. 155)

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learning that we do together and in this course of all of us helping for this important cause you know the the famous vart from the stipela um the story goes that refrain cries worth had someone who was very sick and uh he went to the stiplet asked him what to do and he says you know in the morning when you say the price of elude he says the order seems a little strange because it says bikercholim what's the seder he said what comes in between bhikkhulim and hawaii's amaze is kala so he advised him to get involved in a scala and sure enough for the rest of his life he would raise money for kalas to be able to be able to make their khasanas so this is a tremendous mitzvah that has all kinds of wonderful things associated with it so uh i'm going to finish up with my felix series not because we're done by any stretch of the imagination um i have a chuka to really just go through the davening line by line and share my personal insights but uh you know we got to keep moving here we're going to keep changing uh with with uh with the seasons with the times i don't want to bore people too much they get tired when i talk about one topic too much um so uh so i want to finish up by talking about the concept of kadusha's basacanessas because you find throughout the gemara that there's a difference between a person dabbling by themselves or darkening with a cyborg when you dive with the seabor there's more of a haftah that a coach borough who's going to answer your feeling than when you're diving by yourself if you're diving by yourself and you're able to get that level of uh kavanagh and get that little level of uh of effort that you have to put into your tevilla okay but not many people can do that so when we diving with the zebra we know that the tibor has a certain guarantee that their feelers are going to be accepted and we want to be involved in that and it's not enough just to dive in at home you can't dive in at home but that is by no means considered the ideal never find this concept uh this woman said to me she met this secular person who was wearing a necklace that had a utk buff k on it god's name and uh and then she said you know you can't wear that when you go to the bathroom and he laughed and he said why god's not in the bathroom she said i didn't know what to answer i said what i would have told them is and god is in the synagogue yet we go to the synagogue right we go to the go to shul to darwin why god lives in the shoal more than he lives anyplace else so it's very interesting um i think it's the arizona the name yud kevke of hashem if you take the first letter yud and multiply it by itself 10 times 10 is 100. you take the next letter hey multiply it by itself 5 times 5 is 25. take the above multiply it by itself 6 times 6 is 36. you take the last hay and multiply it by itself you get another 25. together that equals 186 which is the gematria of makkum why because makkum is i take hashem and square it and that gives me all of the space there is and not all places are the same the first peric of calym which is right at the beginning of tyrus it says essekidus hey there are 10 different levels of kedusha the purpose of this is because it goes and lists the different types of tumor there are some tumors that are more severe than others and uh this talks about kedusha says there are 10 levels of kedusha the first love of kadusha is ericsson the second one are cities with walls around it from the time of yahushua the third is yerushalayim the fourth is the higher bias and it keeps moving in to get to the kosher good ocean so what does that tell me that tells me that there are certain places where there's greater opportunity to tap kedusha that's the way it works if you look at the way the mishkan and by extension the base of english was created it's concentric circles there was the kosher kadoshim and then there was the uh mishkan and then there was the uh khotsu mishkan and then there was mahna lavia and there was mahoney israel and then there was there's concentric circles and you'll find that also the materials that are being used there's more gold in the middle yeah and then there's more gold and silver and then it's copper and it moves out the materials move out as you go to reflect the fact that there's a certain intensity and so it works with the entire world there's arabia's new shalayim nazareth shell the schutzler and there's different levels of kedusha and different places have different kedusha the sva semester says why cities that were walled from the time of yahushua have special status and he said because the canadian were very good at sensing kedusha and they built a wall around that place where there was holiness to fill it with a vodazora and depravity to counteract it so when we came in and we saw those walls we knew this was a place with a potential for holiness when the israelis and the six day war invaded the golan heights so we had a spy ellie cohen who was pretty high up in the syrian government and it was his suggestion that the bunkers that were hidden throughout the golan heights would become very hot in the sun so he suggested planting trees around them in order to be able to provide shade for the soldiers and he ran the program where they planted eucalyptus trees all around these bunkers to provide shade so the israeli army knew that when they came in they looked for a grove of eucalyptus trees and they knew that's where the monkeys were and they were able to blow them right up we knew where they were when we came into itself we found the city with the wall around it we know that's because the canadian identified this place as a potential for kedusha to be able to go in and different places have different potentials for kedusha revision shapiro said once in a shirt um the arizona was born in yerushalayim you could still see the house that he was born in he went to egypt and eventually he made his way back to itself he came through him but he didn't go into the city he kept traveling north until he came to tsvas and the question was why and he said because when i came to ushalayim i saw yashka standing on the bias yeah the the christian presence was so powerful and he said the myla of tsvas was and that's where the mekobalam went there there was never a church in swas that's what he said now i found this fascinating kaiyam saidor who's the head of the tsvas foundation gave a tour to us and my mother when she was alive and she was still well enough to travel around so we used to choose to come every circus and i used to find different things for her to do and we went to tsvas and he gave us a tour some really fascinating things and uh one thing is he showed us that they had dug up one of the largest crusader castles in the middle east in spas now it wasn't just a crusader castle it was from the knights templar this was a group of um of christian uh soldiers who were special order they were considered great fighters and uh tremendous powerful people and also very religious so i remembered whatever moisture said and i said to him is there a chapel in there and he says you know it's the strangest thing they've dug up almost the entire castle and they never found a chapel so here they find this large christian structure from the knights templar um who uh uh is this religious order and there's no chapel in it and i remember when you know uh after being in his mind and we came back i told this to maesha and he wasn't impressed at all it was like i told you already like he wouldn't have had the kasha i had the cash he wouldn't have even had the kasha you know the result said there was no church in swan so what's the question you know because a thousand years ago there was some giant castle that had been destroyed and buried you think the arizona didn't know you know a lot of the clerum that we have up north was identified by the arizona and uh you can find different ones and then there are some that the arizona did not find like the kevra of chronia mago which is uh up north is it remember where it is um it was discovered by the jewish agency because they made a development down and they wanted to spart him to move there so spartan wanted to live next to a you know a cover of assadic so they said oh yeah yeah honey margo's buried here that's how kim tells it but he says there's absolutely no tradition uh that is uh that his kevin was there yeah um so uh so there you go but uh but uh but there are others where you find these farm and the arizona said that that this is where the person is and you know you know i messed with the arizona yeah so um uh [Music] so to be able to to have a mockum of kedusha and that's why there are a halachus of a basic kinesis of a shoal how you have to treat it um i'm going to tell you something i think is kind of sad you know that there are people who like to take pot shots that people sit and learn and it's painful painful to read why don't these bums go out and get a job why aren't they theirs when that all this kind of stuff you know why do we have to support them i said yeah i know a guy sits and learns kayla you know makes 300 for like a half a day's work a month 300 i'm like he's really pulling in the bucks over there you know it could be 600 a month i mean like wow is he he's really stripping the uh the society of its resources that's where the big bucks are isn't called [Laughter] i forget about that yeah but they all kinds of various attacks there was one that hurt me it hurt me personally because unfortunately i've seen it myself too many times somebody wrote in and said we have a colon on our shoulder and uh what bothers me is the sense of entitlement is such that they don't even feel an obligation to take care of the shawl you come in the morning and you see they had breakfast there and there's cereal they had spilled on the floor nobody bothered picking it up they left out the milk all night nobody put it in the refrigerator you go to the tables the safari all over the place uh dirty coffee cups nobody bothered to clean up after themselves put things away a shoal should be a holy place and that hurts me because i've seen it myself i've seen in my own eyes and the yeshiva of calm they used to auction off the right to clean up the base magician you paid for this course there used to be shores where the women used to volunteer to go on their hands and knees and scrub the the the floors of the shore or floor the steps going up to the shore covered basically there's an idea that when you're in a shul you're in a holy place and unfortunately you don't see people behaving in a way like that um barney o'sullivan who is a well-known mechanic in the old city and um and a tour guide and really just a fascinating individual on so many different levels so uh i happen to be dominating miracle ones in the ramban shul in the old city and i saw him there and after dabbing i go over say something to him and he says wait come with me and we walk through the shore there's a whole little pathway together etcetera and he says i'm sorry i don't talk to the vehicle i thought wow i say that when people ask me something and i don't want to talk to them but but mamish you know to to be that macbeth today if you don't talk to somebody during davening they get insulted even though they have these big signs up and how terrible it is and you know and all the terrible favorite is for talking uh during davening you know someone asked the baba sally how come the sparta community for the most part was protected from the holocaust and he said because we don't talk during davening during the khalmenki uprising they added a special mischievous for people who don't talk during davening that they should be protected because that was one of the khatoyam that was listed as what went on because people don't take it seriously but a basic nessus is a holy place there are things that you're allowed to do in seoul and things that you're not allowed to do in chile and ways that you have to behave and to and to treat it so therefore we go into sure you're supposed to walk in you're supposed to bow your head ideally when you leave sure you're supposed to walk out backwards like you see people walking back from the castle that's how you're supposed to work out of a shawl now most people don't do it but there's a but there's a a kedusha to a shawl that has to be there when you walk in so since we're talking about davening and going to shul is such an essential part of that um a little bit about darwining and shul and i may have talked about this in some of my earlier podcasts but i want to just set everything up crusader as i can you have to choose a shulk now if you live in a town with only one show it's much easier because there's only one shield someone said to me i would never live in a town with one shul because if i missed happening everybody knows like this i could always say i went to the other show [Laughter] but uh but the fact is that if you have one troll you have one troll so then everybody feels a certain sense of obligation i grew up in a very small school young israel of north belmore it was a small seaboard and everybody felt like they would need it they tell a famous story about a town that had exactly ten mispoland and every day they had a minion three times a day when the eleventh guy moved in they never had a minion because everyone always figured no they don't need me but uh when you know yeah this is my shoulders my shoe love it or leave it and the shoe was somebody said to me once you know i moved to its show and here people use shoes just to diamond they're not feeling the legions to the shawl so uh you know i'll go to the minion that's closer to my house i grew up out in suburbia where i walked a mile and a quarter to get to to get to shore to be able to go and dive in an orthodox show that was a that was a big squish my father over show them when he came to sean of chavez after his uh after his heart attack so uh he was going to show it's mile and a quarter like i mentioned and there was a snowstorm he couldn't walk so he said to my to my mother he said mother that's what he used to call it mother we're moving lived in that house for 30 years yeah we're moving i moved to west hempstead where my uh three of my brothers were living at the time and he told the real estate agent i need a house where i can walk to shoal in the snowstorm so he buys this house a rundown piece of garbage i i said to my mother i said you're going to live here because i can't talk to him whenever i say anything he says look the shul's right over there he spent more money fixing up the house than he paid for the house because otherwise my mother wouldn't come [Laughter] and uh that was important to him to have the shul right a block away towards the end when he was sick you know he had to go in a wheelchair and bring up the show and um i remember i was diving with him once and he noticed that the little cabinet under the iron kodash the handle had come off so he went over and he looked at it etc and i ran out to home depot buy a new screw put the put the handle back on the conservative synagogue where i grew up that my father was one of the founders he was a florist so the first thing he did is he set up two planters on either side when you first walk in one in in memory of uh of his mother and one of memory of my uh my mother's father you know right away that's a very important value to him so if you do live in the town with one more than one shul more than one diving option refutna once told the baka who was trying to pick yeshiva says sit in each yeshiva and learn and see where you feel most comfortable because uh yeshiva is a tsinore it's a pipe and not every pipe attaches to another pipe you have to see where you get your shepherd same thing is true by davening some people love a very long slow davening they don't want to be rushed don't want to have time a solid 10 minutes from asking some people want to be an assure that moves it along at a healthy pace and maybe not even a healthy pace maybe a very healthy pace [Laughter] and they're off [Laughter] so i'm not i'm not here to say what's right and what's wrong everyone has to find some people like a show with a lot of singing some people like a nice cold litvish palla now for me i'm pretty sure that's going to be my personal getting just one long sleeve is going on like that forever [Laughter] it doesn't speak to me i have a son-in-law he's uh he's a breast lifter and i remember pesach crone was doing his bris his son's bris and he says to me are they making a minion and i said yeah he says oh maybe i'll dive by their minion i said no no you won't he says why i said it's rosh kodesh he brings down all of his friends with all their instruments and they do like a 45 minute hollow so this is like i'm not going to dive in there i said no i know you're not going to die i'm giving you a heads up please go go find a minion that's more to your liking but when they used to make these on on on or on uh on when there was a hollow it was packed people would come for this hollow that was a mama's uh such a a beautiful extravaganza other people like you know certain places have like a carl bach cabola shop that goes on for a nice long time a lot of singing and a lot of you know um dancing is exciting other people that's not their cup of tea so uh you have to figure out what is the davening will you feel most comfortable some people want a place where everybody's friendly and they talk to you and other people don't want anyone to know who they are they want to be as anonymous as possible come in and dive in and go home and not be part of it but uh as i mentioned when i was growing up a lot of the shows were called jewish centers right uh the liebermans are still involved in the queen's jewish center grunblatt was the rev there for many years it was a jewish center yeah um what jewish center it means it's not just basic nessus is where you come together for the entire community and eric's show someone said to me your your your friends become your community because you're not part of a sure you're part of a sure there's there's all the activities that go with that that you feel like you're a part of something that you miss out very often unless you have a unique sort of a set up but when you have a shore the shull becomes the center of everything davening is an important part but it's not the only part and when you're diving with people that you that you feel a connection to you know you find this the most somehow because if you've darvened the whole year with people anna rosh hashanah and am kipper and you had a whole success and now you're going to a simple tiger but if you uh one year when my mother was here for uh circus so she wanted us to come to the hotel to be with her in some custodia so you're dancing with the you know people you have no shikhas with per se other than that we were at harsee night together and um only some of these people were building the eagle but and that's not important the uh the point is that like you know yeah there's no there's not that casual they haven't made that same investment when there's an investment it's different i may have told this story recently i don't remember but there was a fellow who was learning in lakewood many many years ago it was originally from heimerlin and elle and the young topham he would go back to khan berlin so after a few years of this the masjid comes over to him and says you're not here for the um the royal man for hello he says no i go back to uh berlin for that he says why he says the david is very special the schmuzen are very special said we have special shmooze in here we have we have a beautiful darling here he says you're right what's my wife's name how many kids do i have what are they going through right now that's why i go to hamburg i'm not looking for a generic schmooze i'm looking for somebody who understands me and knows how to tailor the message to me to meet the needs of me and my family so if you have a shawl we have a rev who understands all the people and what their needs are and how you put it into it it's uh that's why i i always had a uh achooker to be a uh roof of a community mostly for that aspect of it and it's so it's so funny i was never really offered something but there was a show in eritsel that uh was looking for a rabbi mostly american community and they called me up and asked if i would apply no i never applied for anything in my life i wasn't gonna wasn't gonna suddenly apply for a job like this and and they said no no please please so i said look tell you up front if you're looking for a world-class pisces i'm not i can pass in basic shy list but anything real big i'm not a diane i have people that i ask and people i speak to you know i said but if you're looking for something to give shiorim and to build the community and work with families that i'm good at he said that's exactly what we want so uh so i applied for the job i had a little interview and then i got a form email saying i you know we're looking at different candidates so uh i was i was a little hurt but but the idea of being able to have a community where you're able to build families and build people it's always been my trigger that's why i always wanted to make yeshiva and the yeshiva i wanted to be was one where you don't just teach but will you build tell me them you develop them into people you know not that i'm the ultimate like the altar did in slovakia to take people and help them develop themselves into people so so you're looking for a school that's a place that you can dove and that will add to your meaning and in my opinion if it's one where there are people that you can feel a kisher to that can become part of your community that that you feel that we're a seaboard diving together that itself is a very powerful thing so uh hey good luck with that in any event uh so uh that that's uh gonna deal now with our thriller series it could be we'll come back to this at a different time you know gosh we've been doing this for years how many times we're gonna you know get to to come around perhaps to certain other topics and things but let's file that away and now comes the question and answer portion of our program anonymous asks how do we determine the balance between when ramen gamaliel said that he can't just put on shabbos pagodam to greet his father-in-law as asap did because he wasn't on that level and he didn't want to look like a faker and the concept of shalom so he says i couldn't do uh give it up for aim like asa because asap would do this thing if henrik woods once said so you know what he did so you do it he says because i wouldn't be doing that to honor my father i would be doing it to copy asap and if you're doing something just to copy somebody that's not real not real i'm not saying this is one of the best sources for it but there was a theological work that came out many years ago maybe 40 years ago called monty python and the holy grail and at the end you had to cross this bridge and and so lancelot goes first it says answer me these questions three yeah the other side you wish to see says go ahead i'm not afraid of you he says what is your name i am lancelat of camelot what is your quest i seek the holy grail what is your favorite color blue okay this so is robin who's the coward comes up next goes oh i can do this what is your name i'm sir robin of camelot what is your quest i seek the holy grail and what is your favorite color blue no green he gets thrown over the bridge you can't just say you know so uh this person calls tech support and he says and i put in my password and it's not working he says what's the password well i put in the same one as the guy sitting next to me and says what was his password six asterisks and that's not gonna go because it weren't really the password they just they don't show you the numbers or the famous repeat after me i state your name i state your name right now this actually happens you know because the rev does not want to say to the hussein because it could be that the girl will be married to the rabbi so instead the rabbi says repeat after me no no you say lee you say lee no you say well there was an actual court case where the lawyer says uh all right all of your responses have to be oral do you understand yes what's your name oral where do you live oral [Laughter] so i'm just copying somebody what's me talk shalom the massive shame says mitochondria of baloshema doesn't mean that i'm just doing nothing it means i'm not doing it for the purest intentions i'm doing it to get ulam i'm doing it to get scar i'm not doing it only to be able to to be able to to serve hakarus barucho and there's a tyson centinus when he says when it says you know uh someone who does something you know it's a terrible thing he says that's when you're doing it because you want to fake people out you know i put on a yarmulke and i pretend to keep shopping so to get clients you know doesn't mean anything on route 17 going up to the mountains this guy had a flat tire he was wearing a yarmulke so a car full from people pull over so what's the promise of a flat tire says okay where's the spare and they jack it up they change the tie for a minute they're leaving this he's wearing a cross this is why you're wearing a cross he says i'm christian he says why are you wearing a yarmulke he says what he says that thing on your head he goes oh when i first started driving my mother gave me one of these and said if you ever break down put this on and people will stop and help you not representing anything yeah so the answer is that i can try to do something where i'm doing what i'm supposed to be doing and it's not for the purest intentions and hopefully i'll develop pure intentions as opposed to i try to copy somebody who's doing something that's above and beyond you know the rush of shiva and yeshivas used to wear long coats and the bathroom would wear short jackets and uh you know the reshiva would be leaning on these old wooden tables and it would wear away his elbow so he would lift up the edge of his kaftan or i guess would be a more a bekasher you would put it on the um you'd put it up and he would lean his elbow on it so it wouldn't wear out so one of the bakram sees this and he takes his short jacket pulls it up and contorts himself into a position to be able to put it on that's where she sees him and comes over and says some tricks you need a long coat to be able to do some things that shiva does but this is not for everybody so if i'm doing it because it's an outpouring of something that i really feel it's one thing but if i'm doing it just because i'm copying what somebody else did then it's not uh not necessarily meaningful anonymous asks wondering if there's anything that can be proven absolutely do i just have to believe or can something be proven for example my existence so when we go to a court of law we will put someone to death on the basis of uh guilty beyond a reasonable doubt could there always be a reasonable doubt it could always be a reasonable down in new york state there was a case where a guy killed his business partner and after all the evidence was presented and all the witnesses spoke he said at the end of the trial in his own defense he says look you claim that you killed my business that i killed my business partner you claim i use this gun you claim you have witnesses and i tell you you can't prove that my business partner ever existed you can't prove that this gun exists you can't prove that this courtroom exists you can't prove anything so the judge says you're right i sentence you to die by an electric chair that you can't prove exists so although it's true that you can't prove anything a hundred percent because it could be that i'm hallucinating and it could be that my senses don't work and it could be that i'm in the middle of your dreams a reality and your reality your dreams and you're really hooked up to the matrix all of those are possibilities but there's nobody who lives their life that way and therefore even the greatest existentialist will move out of the way when the truck is coming down the road at them because uh you have to uh live in the real world so when you say can you prove something as much as i can prove anything so uh can a person always say well maybe it doesn't yes that's true you could always say that the problem is of course that when the lights come on and you're up in olam harbour and uh you suddenly realize it right so when you mention my own existence of course descartes i think therefore i am whoever is having these thoughts exists so that's the that's why i know my own existence and in fact the arizona explains that that's why kursberg who introduces himself to kleischer with the words that just like you know you exist you know that i exist and that's why you taught the torah while you're in utero so that the torah becomes part of your essence built into you daniel levy asks how can there be a macholicus on a mathias did this happen or not to the hidden in the midbug so um the maharao holds that when it comes to agatha there's never any macholicus it's just describing it in two different ways an example is the gemarangitten where it says by the legisla he got angry at her and kicked her out why'd he get angry so because of her hair either he found the hair in his soup or he found the hair someplace where there shouldn't have been a hair and he was almost hurt from it and uh and he got very upset and kicked her out so he says well which one was it mclaren mathias he said both first he found the hair in his soup and he wasn't he was upset but when he found the hair in another place that it shouldn't have been he got very angry because it was a one-two punch so both are true whether one of them by themselves would have been enough and that's what it means when it says for example uh the gemara says there'll never be a benson remover the other mandariner says i was at his cavern that would seem to be somewhat irreconcilable and the answer is of shalom was a benson mora not halocharically but conceptually his mother was a asian fastoya who david took in battle and the gemara says if you marry an estee fast toyota the next parsha has been serving murray because that's what you're going to end up with and even though he wasn't a benson mother he was philosophically a bensonville so when you say i was by his cavalry they mean yad means that there was a um conceptual reality that was being expressed in that case and that times to look at every every uh time you find a macholicus the maharal explains this in the glory of durham that says why did we go down to mizrahim and it brings three different reasons and he says all three of them are the same reason it's just three different manifestations of the same thing so when you find the mach lakers in the mathias it just means that the two of them are describing two different situations that were taking place and just how do you how do you understand the two so yeah you always need to reconcile those two and the last one for this episode anonymous asks what would you say to the many people who are disappointed that the corona pandemic didn't end with the kami mashiach well the first thing i would tell them is the corona pandemic apparently hasn't ended and the way it's going i don't think that it will ever end it will just continue forever there will always be another variant coming out someplace and uh you know this will go on forever yeah so uh what i've heard people describe as the new reality but let's say we actually get out of the whole thing a mashik doesn't come so what would you tell people who them sheikh didn't come i would say no no that's my usual response as the jews in fiddle on the roof were getting kicked out of anatephka they said rabbi wouldn't this be a good time for the messiah to come and they say yes but until he does we'll just have to wait for him someplace else the jews in the holocaust were sure mashiach was coming they were sure this is there were those who said this is the muhammad sheikh will come come and if you're going to get disappointed you know go find yourself another religion i know one where they say the messiah already came and everything's all great so you know and when he comes the second time it'll be even better but the first time was also a doozy so uh listen what can i tell you you know what come and we wait for him every day i run my finances based on his imminent arrival because they see the mashiach who dead as prison [Laughter] but disappointed there's no reason to be disappointed you know when when the time comes the time comes and you'll know trust me you'll know it'll uh unless you go with the ari goldwag uh uh song where everyone's too busy they don't hear the chauffeur yeah where is our hope and our faith and our fine where is the land running down deep inside when we say we want bend of it to come we can't fool ourselves or the holy one oh that was the first song where i found out that facebooking is in fact a verb i didn't know that in any event so uh comedy comes and mr shema should come fast in the meantime uh sign up for shasta shidduchim to make sure everybody has shidduchim so that they can go and you know meet mashiach as a couple yeah that's always nice and uh in the meantime uh if you want to find out more about this uh show you can go to my website raviolovsky.com you can leave a comment you can sponsor an episode you can listen to the songs read articles by partial shiram that i've been giving in har nope this past year up now so they can come out every two weeks you can listen to those um there's a whole collection of different pictures of me which are suitable for framing uh you know family symbols if you make a big giant cut out of me you know that's that's also you know what could be more fun than that you know you can i don't know if it's on the website but if not we're going to put it up you know the famous background of the bookcase so that you could you know print it out and hang it up in in your house and uh make your own ravioli [Laughter] i have people come from america to take their picture in front of the bookcase it was like you know they have to go to the castle into the bookcase [Laughter] anyway so that's it for this week i'm deborah dolofsky and this has been the rabbi yolowski show it's the rabbi orlovsky show torah and simcha knowledge and wisdom will help you grow lots of fun in every episode and we don't have to rhyme it's the rabbi orlovsky show on rabbi orloxy.com torah anytime youtube and more it's rabbi orlowski show torah and simply show till next time till we meet again throughout my orolovsky show it's the rabbi yolowski show it's the 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