Pesach Program 4: Haggada Insights 1

[Music] welcome to the raviolo ski show and our special raviolo ski base F program this is number four and our Pesach programs I hope your cleaning is moving along I hope you're finding some of these ideas worthwhile now whether you're listening on tour anytime or whatever platform you're listening or watching by happy to have you on board for this special Pesach program and in the last podcast we were talking about how to maximize your Pesach Seder experience and we said as much as you can prepare beforehand prepare beforehand ask people their wine preferences and I have it in the fridge if it's wine that gets refrigerated make sure you have enough grape juice on hand you'll find it worthwhile to have if you have the room a couple of little tables around to keep things on that you need because the table itself there are a lot of different how God does I'm not gonna recommend any because I'm not current I haven't I haven't been keeping up there are hundreds probably thousands of how good is out there and how do you how do you find the one now personally I like a Haggadah with the least commentary and the most instructions because I'm using it I wanted to use I don't have time now to learn the hot good that I should have done that before you that's why this is phenomena where people have these these books or sperm with pollution that they dive in from but they're not doubling their learning you know Burke I thought read hello que no lo que ever say no it's just that's a definite yeah that's not the time to do it you have to do that beforehand and the same thing with the Seder go through whatever hugger does you like jot down the four o'clock that you want to say over or the idea is that you want to share to me it's better to offer up questions or short observations because you have to pace your sailor you can't spend 20 minutes on a lock mine you kill halacha Manya yeah yeah everybody everybody's sitting in then Bnei Brak good to say there would be given me time for that you can't do that you have to know what you're saying and how to keep it moving it has to keep moving now you spirits show that they would change the clock before Yom Kippur and they would change it back before Pesach you had an abbreviated amount of daylight savings time but the answer is obvious if you changed the clock before Yom Kippur then Yom Kippur ends at five instead of at 6 and the Pesach Seder will start at 6 instead of at 7 depending on it yeah some like best successor so the secular people are we saying you're taking where I daylight savings time it's what I enjoy more summer time what time to go it gets talked to early and they said so why the firm Kippur goes out at six or five it doesn't make a difference you're fasting for 25 hours anyway so where are we religious Knesset member said I can tell you've never fasted on Yom Kippur because everyone knows that last hour is the longest hour but never advantage is that at five is that ever six makes a big difference yeah and the Pesach Seder if it starts earlier it makes it much easier especially for the children there's worthless advice I will share with your worthless advice I'm 60 now so I've I've had some experience yeah here's one of the worthless piece of advice that people give you make sure your children nap during the day I never pays off oh yeah that's gonna happen you know everybody's in their nightgowns in their pajamas in their bed poking our heads out of the door you know go to sleep guys that no one wants to sleep with ever face up there's something exciting in the air you know is it something it's something that's that's fun yeah especially hearin and it's show where we have straight first corner to face off and it's totally supervised by kindergarten children yeah they're the ones who are out there making the fires and you know throwing the gasoline no joke it's really serious it is a bit it is a bad thing yeah children should not be running fires that's that's me but anyway so then I'm ready to go to sleep it's not it's not I don't think it's really realistic so the earlier can start to say - the better so I know a fine table cloth from Russia schewe and he started something here in my neighborhood of her know if you can make kiddush it's a circle of him that means you can dive in before it says a Cohutta and there's a prima Gotham in two places which says his buffet which and so he started on pace of night like people make early Shabbos an early yontiff minion and he said leave yourself enough time Davin Davin my roof enough time to make a beautiful hollow with all the singing you want and then wish everybody a good yontiff go home set everything up gather everybody around the table and you can even start the early parts of the Seder until kiddush you can see well it's not much but you know get everyone there so that when when say Sakhalin comes you're ready to start this is a little radical one rough called me a reform Jew but this this because this is their minute and I'm not posturing I'm not that kind of a rabbi you know there's three types of smoker this RAV amnon ik well you can call yourself rabbi is ya're ya're where you study the laws of Cassius and this yard where you study the laws of motion is part of monetary lawyers etc I studied your idea I know the laws of Cassius pretty well so sometimes people bring me there to fill in and say is this kosher and I say I don't know drop it in a pot of chicken soup and I'll tell you what to do I'm not that kind of a rabbit so I'm not asking it but this fellow showed me his rye is disgusted with me and we coordinated with the people coming to the Seder and we dove in we do this I'm not saying you sure that you shouldn't but you understand I cannot begin to tell you how this changes the nature of the place of saying it for me I can tell you my family feels the same way and I know the meaning keeps growing every year there's more and more people I have some very shoes people who come to this very important people I don't want to mention their names again because I don't know if they want to publicize but when you can start the Seder at at taste coke oven when the stars come out when it gets dark you see like I say if you go to a regular shop so they first wait till after the taste of coke oven to start Maya and that's assuming that you again I know how it works in America because here a psycho Haim is either 20 or 25 minutes after unless you - it's late of it but but they subdued keep 20 minutes something give 25 so they first start darling then that's assuming the guy who was given the speech didn't go over time and he always does so so now you first do it and of course it's a young diff diverting as it should be and then they sing holla holla and then by the time you get on me you've lost you've lost over an hour sometimes an hour and a half of prime satyr time without an early it is it was a game-changer certainly for us you have to see if that works for you now I want to tell you something so interesting I was teaching this over it or Samara about how a person should make the preparation so you can start on time and maximize what you can the experience that guy says what do you need so much time for it how long is it take to read that how good right my father had a particular hagatha and all Haggadah i got it's my Arusha and here it is a Gerda shall pass on and he could read from the beginning to the meal in 20 minutes and I have to tell you I didn't find that it actually added that much to the appreciation of that other Marie Josie the Galilean says how does one calculate that the Egyptian you see ten plagues in Egypt will receive 50 plagues in the sea what does the writ say concerning Egypt and the magician said unto Pharaoh it is the finger of God and what does it say consenting to say in Israel so the great hand which the Lord laid upon the Egyptians and the people fear the Lord and believe no one knows that is sir how many places receive it by one finger of ten plagues hence they receive ten plagues an agent for the boys think it really as it says how do we know that each plague would say other one etcetera etcetera very quick very quick but I don't know that it made for the greatest relevance and like I say that's what we have to shoot for it so I want to maximize the amount of time so I was speaking in Orissa man and the student says what's you know you know it's just it's a cultural phenomenon the Seder yeah you're gonna read a little bit and a little bit of the story sing a couple songs then use it's basically it's a festive meal that's what the say there is and it's not I want to point this out the Seder is not a commemoration it's a recreation it has a purpose all right very first thing we do with the Seder and that's the reason when I said we started early yeah we want to give the maximum amount of time to get the most out of this experience and you have to plan it right so you don't get stuck what's the first thing you do with the Seder and I'm not everybody does this but we certainly do we sing that little song Kadesh rakaats carapace yeah thoughts maggie'd rasa mode see he mats uh seems like one bit really to my roar go Rafe Chauhan all right seems like too but it's really one so fun bar a howl near it's uh who sings the table of contents have you ever seen that you might take a book so it's a gonna get cave oh god that's so people say to me well we're gonna review what we're gonna do we're gonna do why don't we do that on Yom Kippur it's much longer with many more steps yeah oh the all the things that go through it what do we what are we reading this for so you know the problem is every time I come up with a technological or an example is based on technology when the technology changes you know it's left behind so there was it was a time when there was no ways waz which of course is a sniff tea program that where's their phone now and they plug in how to get to wherever is it going to go and ways tells them exactly how to go and sometimes seems like Waze is taking us the wrong way we've we know how to get around this doesn't seem to make any sense but the algorithm that that Waze is based on is that if you cross them then they rearrange traffic so they slow you down and that's why you ever wonder you can subscribe to ways and then you can alerts and you get points what are you do those points they will reroute traffic away from you when you're driving that's how it works yeah they control the it's scary really but anyway so now it's waste enough to you don't need anything it's like if you ask somebody someone's phone no but nobody knows that his phone number they get it they put it on their phone and they don't know if they lose their phone they don't know anybody's phone about yeah so so before there was ways so there was a GPS it was like ways only didn't control the actual traffic it just told you how to get there before that it was you could go to google and you would put in your starting point and ending point and it would print you out a list of directions sometimes it was a little ridiculous you know step one pull out of your driveway step two go down the street yeah three mega right yeah these are available and all English languages by the way you know you can get these GPS that's speaking Hebrew but it's different it's different you know because sometimes I know the ways is telling me the wrong thing what the GP has done the wrong thing and I I turned down the street and it goes recalculating recalculating yeah the Hebrew one is different Martin Samantha mishegoss I met him with Domino's if our guess is evil mighty glad to come out Kelowna Nicholas Israelis really to a bed but you had a list of directions so okay we're gonna talk a little bit about column Oh ADA at the end of our series but but I don't know if it still happens but when I was in America so it was required by law that every religious family on column OE regardless of the weather and if you lived anywhere in the tri-state area had to go to great adventures in Six Flags in New Jersey right so those who don't go so you print out a list of directions tells you go down here make it right over here get onto this highway here etcetera etcetera and a list of 15 steps in order to be able to get and the final destination is you have arrived at safe Flags great adventures Jackson New Jersey imagine that a person follows the first ten steps he gets to the 195 and he says you know what kinegg I felt 10 of the 15 steps and I had two-thirds of the experience of going to great adventures ridiculous you didn't have any of the experience because you never arrived at your destination kadesha rakaats is telling us that we are arriving at a destination there is a purpose to the seder there is if you will a seder to the seder there is an order to the different steps and to what we are attempting to accomplish we have to get to the end there are many people from people whose seder ends at the meal maybe Burak or maybe they even bench and that's what they've done hello it's all kind of stuff you know if there's a couple of Fermi's they're like okay you guys have me mine yeah I had enough ready so you almost got two great adventures you didn't have the experience who wants to miss out on that especially when it's raining in 30 degrees outside 40 degrees that's it you want to miss the opportunity of cointegrated vengeance with tens of thousands of other firm people and screaming children were all lost well we're too cheap to buy the food so they were left in the lockers outside and they have to walk three miles just to the authorities or you could buy the food inside of the practice but she'll coach lipase our food and get a frankfurter for $35 bag of potato chips for $25 a can of soda for $18 so uh you know who wants to miss out on that experience and then you get to wait on long lines to be able to get into a machine that will strap you in and hurl you upside down backwards in the dark a hundred miles an hour that's the idea of a good time I live in you shall I'm I can just get into a cab and have the same exact experience I don't have to wait on line for it yeah but it's a there's a there's a sense of arriving at a destination there's a SATA to the Sager it's set up in a particular way it's supposed to take us someplace so that's why in order to be able to arrive at a destination or to get someplace we want to accomplish something and that's why we need the maximum amount of time and awake time not where we're rushing through since we started this we haven't rushed through the meal we can eat the meal like like mentioned and we can talk and learning and sing songs whenever anybody wants to do you have that terrific option to be able to do so so like I say I'm not here to pass queue for anybody but if you have a local authority and you can find that this might be a good option it's something that you should perhaps consider okay so we want to leave ourselves max from time we want to try to be able to to capture as much of this as we possibly can you saw when I counted there were 15 steps 15 steps leading up to the base of mikdash coincidence I think not 15 share Molly's the reason of 15 is because it's a gamma trio the numerical value of the name of God cup the yurt and the hey that spell God's name you'd represent shamayim and hay represents our that's where heaven and earth come together that's the base Simek dish you'd also represents ish man and the hay represents Asia woman and when the two of them joined together that's also represented by the number 15 hence Slovo mela decorated the base of mikdash with pictures of couples embracing don't try this in your synagogue even if it's very liberal it doesn't go over so well today but he understood that the base of mikdash was a place where Claudius RAL the Jewish people and God came together like an ish and an issue like a man and woman in a certain level of love to become one and that's why we go through the steps of the Seder and the last level is called near it's our we are desired by God FR add me a day ya ever Danny a day yeah and final okay new and look into I look into a locator well okay new shared by every birds and we keep going up who knows 10 I know 10 ten on the did Bruce and 9 to the months for babies born in eight of the days before Britain 7 the days of the week and 6 of the books of the Mishnah and 5 of the books of the Torah and four in the Mamas and 3 of the Papas and 2 of the loofahs that Moshe brought in one is a sham what is a sham what is a sham and the heavens and the earth and we keep going until we reach number 13 who knows 13 I know 13 13 are the divine attributes and then we go back down couldn't find a 14 I found the 14 the Ornette which is the publication that's put out a weekly basis by horas man once did this where they said okay who knows 14 and people who suggested 14s and 15s and 16 yeah you could go if you wanted to we stopped it 13 says Patricia Shapiro this that we end the Seder because 13 is the numerical value of a hood of one and it's also the American value of Ahava of love because that's how we end the Seder we've gone through our steps the 15 steps going up to the base of McNish to come to that place where there is lava and effort where we become one with a kurdish protocol that is what we do at the Seder night and so there is a minik you find it printed in many Agatha's at the end to say sure sure what is your sister come I come I am Zucotti love fastener is clueless are you a famiiy loser [Music] thank you very much how you followed me into the desert like a color that loved that client so I had that's what Pesach is that is she Reshiram the love between a husband and his wife yeah the love between a class on the Jewish people that is the pace of seder it ends with neared sir that is the goal that's what we're trying to achieve to achieve that love to feel that closeness that cutters powerful tremendous power tremendous power that we have on the Pesach night yes it no the next night we start counting ferrous armor and you know they have different levels cirrus levels first one is custom sugar cousin pace up starts off it's the ultimate expression of Cresson our has said custard new right tests of God the kindness of God how he took us out of Egypt and that's what we're encapsulating at the Pesach Seder and if we miss this we missed the destination we got to some rest stop in New Jersey not that that doesn't have its own individual charms yeah goodbye a little glass that says New Jersey on and stuff but but that's of course not taking us to our goal and the Seder is a seder it's supposed to be taking us someplace and in my house near it sir is always an occasion in fact in past years when our kids friends as they would finish their satyrs or other people they finish Thursday's now we finish a little earlier because we start right on time but as their sailors when end they would all come to our house so that they could be there for narrator we give out parts so Cod got John mu so that you know you have to keep a coordinated yeah for other moms and three of the pups and - oh we gotta keep it moving my people forget their parts yeah great question my mother yeah she used to he's gonna say - and you know they say don't listen she stays for like - I know that she can't take anymore she's too weak she goes back to her room man when she would cut to say with us she was there till the end and her less later we finally gave her a part if I'd got you she had she had the neox yeah I said to my mother had her poo - sounds to get to do it's very very anyway in fact you know I haven't done any clips for my for my 60th birthday in a while but you know we have the at the end the mother Mother's comes so here's a little clip for you just to see that laughs key I came for you no one let me take you everybody still need you keep lighting up the world but in 60 years I'm gonna get you and that's it we we are gonna spend time preparing for the Seder to make sure that we are maximizing this experience you have to think how can I make this enjoyable fun relevant a a experiential time that relives that recreates we don't say at the beginning but the end I have called them lyricist hot smoky listen I am and we make the oh brother that we you know who took us out of Egypt it's only the end of the Seder because if you Seder was effective then it will take you out of Egypt okay that's it for this time if you'd like to find out more about this podcast please go to every Laskey that come slash podcast if you would like to make a comment or say anything or find out about this particular podcast reveal a ski that comes lash podcast slash 29 I'm gonna fight about upcoming events for your lousy that come slash events if you want to contact rabbi Orlovsky so it's very lousy that come slash contact and if you would like to sponsor an episode please go to 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