Pesach - Becoming a Person (Ep. 229)

hi this is D rowski and welcome to the rowski show whether you're watching with our friends over at T time wherever you watch or listen to your podcasts we uh we're always excited to have you along for the experience and it's an experience what can I tell you it's as we always say it's a show not a Shear right because we do all kinds of stuff here um that uh so those you who watch myi shabas shur on T any time those are just shum that's straightforward I I may move from topic to topic because my ADD but but it's basically straightforward here you never know what's going to happen we have all kinds of different things um I have gotten several requests even though it is not my area but since I obviously excel at almost anything that I do in this context in fact I have this expression that uh that kids make fun of that when they say oh wow that was great whatever it is I said well you know I only know one way to do things exceptionally well so uh we wanted to have some uh you know maybe 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Hines the Hines Corporation I'm just kidding [Laughter] anyway so uh what can I tell you uh Elon Musk Tesla this might be a big big chance anyway you know we could uh talk all about it I might have you on the show if you if you you think you have something that you'd like to add anyway just so I'd throw that out okay um we are in the middle of a series and uh we are in a series that every so often something uh tickles my interest and as I mentioned in the last uh two uh episodes um when we last left our heroes yeah we were taking the atbash of pesak as uh as is brought down in the Torah and that is a what is apparently merely a neonic device Al if is tough B is shin gimmel is r and we did Al and B already that means the day of alif pesak which of course this year is Monday night will be the same night of the week as T Tish B which is Tuesday night will be the same uh day of the week of sh and uh we made the connection last time between the beginning of s and and Shu and that that connection uh and giml will be the same as rash and therefore for those of you who may not be aware giml of pesak comes out on Wednesday night which means this year Rashana will be Wednesday night which means it will be a three-day Yanti even for those of us who live here inel uh there's no exception when it comes to because everyone agrees that the messengers could not have reached normally until you know the 15th and that's where they had to have two days of P but even in since the a the witnesses would come and testify on rosesh and that's when rashash would be and you don't know if the witnesses came and if the witnesses come and say oh we saw the moon and they say oh great now today is Rashana and you were in the middle of the store shopping you're really messed up should have been in SCH daving so even in we have to keep two days for shash and since that means Wednesday night Thursday Thursday night Friday it goes straight into chabas Israelis are not used to this in fact when I first came to Israel I wasn't sure if I was going to stay or not and so I wasn't sure whether or not I should keep um two days y for not and of course I did not ask the question because I am by Nature a procrastinator so uh so what did I do so I had a three-day y r now if you have a three-day r that means means you're going to have a three-day suus and a three-day sheras and so I made a cold calculation and I said it's hard living in Israel you leave all of your family behind and you have no family you move to a foreign country where you don't really know the language and the culture I always used to point out that my grandfather came from VRA of Poland to America never learned English and when I uh and when I came to Israel I was like my grandfather you know moving here and of course his kids had to make it on their own to learn how to become Americans because they had no one to help them my kids were in a similar situation because they didn't have anybody who could uh who could lead them through the situation so it was hard consideration plus as an English speaker and a cultural American obviously I felt I could be much more effective in America than I could inel uh the things that I wanted to do so I came originally to learn for a few years and then go back actually into rabanus and um uh you know who knows what opportunities I would have plus living in Israel is hard you know getting a job and making a living is hard the terrorist attacks the the the the wars the missile attacks I mean I didn't go through any of those things in America you know these are these are all terribly difficult situations and I said none of that stands up against two more three-day Ys and I decided I'm staying so I never officially asked the Sha I called the I finally called the pisc and explained the situation it was m sukus and somebody was here he's like who calls up at the last minute the ask I already knew what the answer was I just wanted to get official confidence because obviously if I say listen I plan on staying here do I have to keep two days y the answer is uh move on May love as they say but uh okay it gave this fellow a you know a wonderful anecdote that he could say over whenever he sees me designed specifically to make me feel like an idiot but that's okay that's how you go to heaven if if you got to suffer let it always be through humiliation anyway I I I'm sure he doesn't even watch my show so it's not a problem but uh but that's the case yeah so uh so it's got to be a three-day unff but what I was trying to do in this little series is to say that if Tish comes out on the first day of pesak there must be a relationship between those two and we discussed that last time and if the second day of pesak comes out the same time ASU there must be some connection to it makes sense and so therefore if the Third day comes out as um as rashash there should be some connection between it again I have no source for this it's my own uh my own thinking and uh uh I'll share it with you now what what I've thought about this and try to put it into perspective what happened on the third day yeah we left MIM on the first day of pesak and we traveled on the second day of pesak and on the third day the shm that parro sent along with the Jewish people said okay that's it time's up because when mosha abeno originally went to parro he said to him we want to go three days into the midbar and serve Hashem and then we'll come back now some of the mam say that was just a Gambit and it wasn't really meant to be taken seriously the ramban says no no no he was very serious if at that particular moment pyro would have said okay we would have gone into the midbar and says the ramban as the crow flies it's a three-day Journey from it to Har took us seven weeks for other reasons but we would have gone three days directly to Hari we would have gotten the Torah then we would have come back and finished the next 190 years so we would have actually been in MIM for 400 years the way it was originally supposed to be but uh Power didn't agree and so he says okay you know M says look we could do this two ways we could do it the easy way or we could do it the hard way you understand so you want to do it the hard way fine so es maros boom boom boom boom until Egypt is decimated yeah the the um the hail destroyed uh some of the crops the the Locust ate up the rest I mean and then of course Mar there wasn't one house where there wasn't somebody dead and they said okay we give up we give up you can go forget everything I said you can go nonetheless he sent along shimu everything that I went through was just to give you the three days in the desert so at the end of The Three Days the show said okay okay kids that's it time's up time to go home and we looked at these people and said you don't get it do you that was a limited time offer yeah order before midnight tonight and we'll get an extra set of steak knives yeah that was it you you you lost your chance and Rashi brings down and they beat them and chase them away well it took them three days to get to where they were so it took the messengers three days to get back and they told parro and then parro gathered all of his troops and went the three-day journey in one day an exact parallel to what happened with Lan where yakob was three days uh Journey from lovan and then he journeyed for three days until the children of lovon went the three days to tell him and then he went the whole six days in one day similar there's a lot of similarities between the two stories and um and then he encamps and uh and the Jewish people uh don't know how to deal with it but let's deal with the third day what happened when we Chase those uh those Messengers away the the guards the guards that came with us Adam raim as we're surrounded by the clouds of as we're led by The Cloud of Glory and the pillar of fire they thought we were going to just turn around and go back after everything that we went through so this was a significant day it was the Jewish people taking their fate into their own hands and maybe I'll explain it this way as uh the y Yu points out Maas um which are usually referred to in English as zodiac signs the zodiac signs are we call them in in Judaism mazus and the mazas in our um understanding have certain power they they capture the meaning of the uh of the month right so when you see all those signs and you see the fish that's because the masle of ad is Doug fish what's they call in English Pisces the fish and um in fact the gamor says when the lot came out to other um hmon was happy because he said the masle is dug and just like a a big fish swallows a small fish I'll swallow the Jewish people yeah so it has a meaning obviously it's not by chance that Tish which has rashash and Yumer andaba all the days of judgment the mael is Libra which are the scales of Justice um we call them the mosim in Hebrew so there's concept to it so sir um spans three months uh Nissan and San only ER is completely sper what's Nissan Nissan is Aries or as we call it the tle the sheep and that was uh uh why when we uh brought the C PES the Egyptians who worshiped the Sheep Nissan was the month of the sheep because that's the masle was the was Aries the sheep and um and we um we we watched uh them worshiping it and we take it and we we tie it up and we Sheed it and we eat it in fact shabas a it's a miracle they didn't kill us and we took all their gods and put it into our house and said because we're going to she it and eat it and they didn't attack us um there's been a lot of Jews killed uh over the centuries for decide people say we kill their God you know as you probably know this Jewish kid get beaten up by these non-jewish kids he says what are you beating me up for he says because you killed our God so the kid said if I could kill your God imagine what I could do to you but you got to wonder about a God that you can kill anyway so um uh so the uh 14th and the 15th of the month is when the masle is at its strongest uh Power that's when the moon is full and the mazas on the Jewish count to go by the lunar month so it goes by the moon so uh so it's uh on the 14th of the month we Sheed their God and on the 15th we eat it so that was for them explains the cleak but what's the power of the ma it's we were like a sheep sheep are helpless sheep don't take care of themselves sheep don't work sheep don't do anything right they are fragile um if you ever read far from the maddening Crowd by Hardy he describes one of the characters there as a shepherd and how carefully you have to be with them and when a new sheep is born they have to bring it right away to the fire so it doesn't freeze to death you have to make sure it has food you have to make sure it has water you have to Shear them um you know if you're not careful with them uh they they they require a lot of Maintenance and they don't really produce anything for you yeah you take their wool you take their milk you eat them but but they don't do anything for you they don't they don't work for you you work for them and you get whatever you get when we came out of Egypt we were on the lowest level we uh we we come to cus yamu and the Sea says why should I save these people hey there's no difference between them and the Egyptians when I drown the Egyptians I should drown the Jews along with them that's that's how how difficult our spiritual situation was even a week later so Hashem took us out because uh he promised to take us out but not because we deserved it and then we had to work to work like an ox and that's why uh in English is Taurus the bull by us it's called The Shore the ax oxen work they plow they pull wagons yeah you know he's strong as an ax or he worked like an ox yeah I never understood expression I I worked like a dog because I've never really seen dogs do too much but um but it is an expression anyway so um uh so you you have to work all of er to now deserve it and if you do you come to Sian where you uh stand at harini and uh you receive the Torah and that's Gemini which is toim the twins because we come together as one yeah and we We join together um sh used to point out there are two things that are always drawn wrong one is uh a heart A heart doesn't look like this a heart is like got little things sticking out all over it's it's it's much less um much less romantic looking yeah and much more utilitarian so they must have known what a heart looked like they knew about the internal organs we drew a heart like this at your command before you here I stand my heart is in my hand y but uh that's the uh that's that's a heart so but we draw it like this the other thing we draw wrong are the luos we very often draw the luos like this this is not the luos the gor is very clear the luos were two separate cubes they weren't attached at all and we draw them like this the tablets yeah I explain on I said that's that's not the luos that's McDonald's I think that's why so many Jews ended up going to McDonald's they thought it was the lucos on the outside they were n you understand that's uh that's uh that's a big M but uh but why do we draw the luas so he says it's the same thing the heart and the luas because um say your heart is supposed to have Hashem and the Torah carved into it just like the words of Hashem are carved into the luas and the purpose are for the two of them to become one and that's what a heart represents it's two different people who join together as one gatria the word is the same as which is 13 and that's why when we sing at the end of the S we go up to 13 because 13 is yeah it's the G of and therefore when we when we say uh when we say who knows one one is 13 that's that's where I come to and then everything comes back together and we keep coming back to the one and the luas are all there because it's one us and become one yeah right it all comes together so here's an interesting idea the PCT ofah I I uh asked about this once on a on a circus and uh he he said shot this of Kahana and then later he gave a whole sheer in the Thursday night she talking about it I don't know if I was the inspiration or not or but uh I said there's a Ste in Rashi when he describes sukus at the end of MIM he says suus is at the end of the year when he says it in par Kisa it's at the beginning of the year and uh I said I heard B Brisa that that's because was before the AEL and was after the agel and after the agel uh rashash got moved into Tish before that it was an El this is what I heard SOA said I never heard that but but there is a perct that says the following every month was supposed to have y and because of the agel those three months of the agel I.E Tam of and El Lo lost the Yim and they were all put into ti so if you make the Seder that means rashash should have been in tamuz Kipper should have been an A and sukus should have been an El and only shatas would have been in Tish and it would have been like shu shuis is called atas right the mishna that's referred to as atas says you go from pesak to sh and you count seven weeks he said it would have been the same thing with sukus you would have had sukus then you would have counted seven weeks until he came to shis and that would have been like Shu just like shuis is a celebration of the Torah so too is a celebration of the T that's why he became so that's what he said to me in that suus later he gave a she and he said what does it mean rashash would have come out in uh in tamuz right the world was created on rashash right that's why it's the new year so you know there's a famous Mar between Yeshua and Reza when the world was created was the World created in Tish or in Nissan it sure seems like we're saying it was created in t today's the birth of the of the year of of of the world you know and uh it's the beginning Etc but in fact we POS Yeshua the world is created in Nissan and if that's the case then um why do we um have rashash Shana on the first of Tish it has nothing whatsoever to do with rashes should be what we call rashash so there's a famous Ron that says the following yam Kipper is in a historical context what happened mosha broke the luos on Shas came down with the luos he saw we built the agel the golden calf he broke the luos broke the tablets goes back up for another 40 days and nights and gets God to agree not to destroy the Jewish people but he will not you know he's not going to stay with us anymore um mosha takes his C his tent and sets it up outside of the M outside of the camp and he calls it the Y moed which later is what we call the mishan and the cloud goes with Moshe and that's it the Jews are left and they don't want to live that way they want to get it back so there's a 40-day period where mosha goes up on roses El and Davin for the next 40 days and he comes down on the 40th Day which is yipper with the second set of luos to show thatu forgave us says the ran it it wasn't all the same yeah there was a change that took place yeah um there was a um mosha was doing for a whole month and Hashem was sticking to his guns and on Russ sh says the Run he finally changed you know wrote a different R and he decided okay keep talking let me hear what you have to say and for the next uh 10 days Hashem became more and more receptive until the end he gave him the second luas and M came down with an Kipper so according to the ran we don't celebrate rashash because that's when the world was created has nothing to do with that it's when there was a change and things were going back now I want you to think for a second here if that's true then really yum Kipper is what sham was supposed to be right because had MOS come down with those luos and we did not build theel and we would have gotten those first that would have been the end of the world as we know it yeah it would have been a new existence as the say don't read that it was carved into the tablets read that you would have gotten freedom and he explains freedom from Death freedom from the freedom from Forgetting I mean that would have been it the world would have reached its level of complete that's a new world that's when we would celebrate rashash just like the ran says what we call Russia Shana we're celebrating because Hashem began to change his mind that finally concluded with Y those 10 days seek hasem when he's close that would have been the same thing on Shas Shas would have been that Russ Shana it doesn't matter whether it was the anniversary of the creation of the world or not according to yua there was a Nissan but it would have been a new world it would not be the world that we uh know about as the um T Riva says if uh if everybody was blind you would make a world a particular way and then if suddenly everybody could see you wouldn't just keep going on with the world it would become a completely different world obviously food presentation would be a thing if everyone's blind there's no point to it AKA ER who is a nurse in a very sad place these are children who have had um neurological damage they're uh not functional for all intents and purposes and uh it's he said to me it's very hard very hard to look at look at these kids and and see what you know what happened to them and what they're supposed to be going through and I looked around and and they're all the whole place is decorated with these you know like little children kind of posters balloons and you know I know little little pictures and things and I said well then what's the purpose of the posters they says it's for the staff because you know you need something to be able to keep going yeah just to just to give you the strength to keep going so if all those kids suddenly woke up it would be a different world that's what it means when mhia comes it'll be a different world if we would have gotten those first luos the world that we know would not be that world anymore it would be a completely different world we lost those luos that's why thees says that it's called sh because all we can celebrate is the weeks of preparation we never got that Torah the the luas we were supposed to get on Shas got broken but that would have been rashash it would have been a new existence there was a process of us going from being sheep to working like an ox and being able to come close toes the first day the second day mosha was taking us along we were doing what we were doing on the third day when we fought the shimm and we chased them away we stood up and said now we're going to do something for ourselves we're not just going to be sheep we're gonna we're going to stand up and be men right it says when we came out of MIM we were like like a newborn baby being pulled out of the womb we stood at Hari in order to get married you have to be an adult and becoming an adult is a process some people never become adults they stay kids forever but the process of growing up and maturing and becoming an adult that's something that we have to strive to be able to accomplish that started on the third day of pesak and when that started that's the same night that rashash comes out because on rashash everybody has to stand before and be judged as a person every person has to pick you up and look at you and say do you deserve to exist I have to make a decision that's the Yad every single person one by one stands up and that's the moment and I believe that the third day of pesak is that beginning of the process of us learning how to stand up and to become a person okay and that brings us to the question and answer uh portion of the program by Anonymous my wife wants to know why should she want M to come is going to be harder for the ladies okay um I I have first of all a problem with the uh underlying question it's not going to be harder for the ladies it's going to be harder for the men because the ladies uh their nid will be the same now it could very well be that we'll go back to the daaa nid which in the uh Tyra a woman sees D she's t for the next seven days and then she does a HEC Tyra she goes to the and it's done it's all over she doesn't have to count the sh sh is only for a the only thing is that today we don't know the difference of what's damida and what's Dam Z and we might have trouble keeping the count Etc could very well be when mhia comes back will'll go back to the good old days and you'll only have to keep a week of Nida instead of uh you know 12 to to 14 days so I'm not sure which you mean it'll be harder it'll be harder for the men because we'll be keeping the laws of tum andara and therefore wherever Nida sits and whatever she lies on and whatever she walks on and whatever she touches becomes tumming so uh I thought about this you know because I have eight daughters you know and my wife it's nine women walking around my house and I'm thinking to myself in the time Mia I don't know who's who and what's what I couldn't sit on a couch I couldn't you know luckily uh I have uh you know I would buy myself a stone cup for my coffee you know what I mean and say don't touch abis coffee it's easy anyway because I use folders and everybody else drinks tastes Choice over here so you know I have my coffee that you know fine otherwise you know don't touch my stuff but uh you know yeah when she goes to the mikah she takes the couch with her you have to drive the car and you know into into the into the Mikvah um the dining room chair you know all her clothes the Linens you know what I mean yeah you got to bring everything in yeah so it's more of a hassle for a man for a woman you know uh I don't know that it becomes any more difficult for her than it already is if anything it might become easier but um uh but that to me is uh is not really the main question the big question is I don't want to win the power ball because if I win the Power Ball and I get $2 billion you know how much taxes I'm going to have to pay I'm so lucky I lost if I had won that power ball wow look how much money the taxes would take yeah but look how much you'd have left I don't know how anybody can look at the world today where you see crowds chanting kill the Jews guess the Jews where you see Jews getting attacked and beaten up and and and and killed throughout the world where we don't have a Bas of mikdash where the whole world is an absolute wreck and you say well I wouldn't want mashia to come because then I'll have to keep the laws of tum and Tara I'd rather take my chances with Hamas and their supporters I'm having a little trouble with that which means in the grand scheme of things keep your perspective it says M comes hundreds of go are going to come to every Jew and say I'll be your EV just teach me Torah yeah I know that that sound like a bad thing have you know have hundreds of a to take your your stuff for you I know but if I sit on the couch it comes tell me oh no then forget about that let's have a situation where Tom shabas has to go around and collect food for people because they can't have food to eat for chabas that's better a much better situation you know yeah that's the kind of world I want to live in oh you know my sister-in-law shal olowski Al Shalom just passed away and uh you know from yla so I'd much rather have people die of diseases than have to have some kind of inconvenience in my life you know listen you know death comes to everybody so goodbye you know I have no cures no way I can help them that's okay you know God is being disgraced his name is being you know cursed and blasphemed all over the world yeah but at least I I don't have to worry about taking my clothes to the mck afterwards I I'm having a lot of trouble wrapping my head around this question uh I can only hope that you misunderstood what your wife was trying to say CU men very often do that okay and our next question comes from a popular listener by Anonymous what is your favorite pesak food I'm so glad you asked this question because this is one of the things I was thinking of about having a cooking show and maybe we'll do it beforehand um I uh I eat gab I eat gab that's uh I think my family's been certainly my parents did but okay you know we grew up in Long Island and we used to buy strites matzas you know we heard R iron salich used to sleep in the factory you know they were very coach for stres matzas you know I get married my father-in-law says to me stries matzas only 18 minute matzas okay so I got 18 minute Matas by the way you know that once you change from regular monsters that means half the products in America you can't eat cuz has mat m in it you know but fine 18 minut mat I came to Israel they said 18 minut matzas I wouldn't give that to an Arab only mat fine I ate mat all time and then people said you buy any mat only so uh fine but I ain't doing gab BR I'm not giving a g BR I mean there's a limit you know at some point you just have to say this just isn't worth it anymore that's me that's me what can I tell you so my favorite P food undoubtedly is a matab now let me explain to you the difference between matab and scrambled eggs okay I know people some of them are related to me through marriage who say they're making a matah pry and they're not they're taking eggs and matzah and they Stir It Up in a frying pan kilu it's a mat that's not a matab that's scrambled m and eggs yeah mat Bri my father taught me how to make it and uh and uh you have to be careful yeah got to be careful kids don't try this at home um there's different proportions yeah some do two matzes to four eggs some do um two and a half matzas to four eggs some people do one and a half matzas to four eggs so it's I guess it depends really how eggy you want it yeah um he would crumble up the matzas into a strainer and pour hot water from the uh from the hot water heater special one for pouring even when we got an N we kept the little one to be able to pour the hot water on the uh on the matah yeah you let it let it dry and then you put it into the egg mixture mix it up add salt how much salt I don't know how much salt did you want you the the salt's a tricky thing you know and uh add salt you Stir It Up and then take a frying pan you got to make sure you have the right size frying pan if it's too wide the whole thing will spread out and there'll be nothing if it's too uh small then it becomes too thick and the inside doesn't get cooked get the right size frying pan for your amount and that's why if you have a small frying pan then definitely go with the uh one and a half matzas to uh three or four eggs yeah do it that way and mix it up you add some oil to it make sure it's hot the biggest mistake people make is it's not hot and then they uh uh the thing goes into the pan it doesn't it doesn't cook right away it gets stuck to the bottom to make sure it's really hot you pour it in and you spread it out and then you put foil on top top of it if you have a frying pan with a cover then I'm not even talking to you but you either put fryer for that I actually have a Corell plate uh from our Corell pesak set we only have we had bought a set for four when we first got married so we it's not very practical but it's perfectly fits on top of my frying pan and I put it on there and I wait I wait uh how long a lot depends on on uh on your stove etc etc but I would say give it about three minutes and then I take off the top and the bottom should be more or less cooked and the top should begin begin to beginning you shake the pan a little bit to make sure it's not stuck if it is stuck then you have to take a spatula and loosen it around now uh my father Shalom would give it a little spin flip it and and and catch it in midair into the pan and then you cook the other side for a minute minute and a half and then you slide it right out it's terrific if you're a coward so you take it and slip it onto that Corell plate that you have and then you turn it back in and make sure that you don't you have to do it in one fluid motion otherwise some of it will drip in and yeah turn it over and get it cooked and that's it how do you eat it there's two uh there's two different ways to eat it sweet or savory meaning you could just put salt on it and eat it that way which is very good or you could eat it like a pancake and you could put pancake syrup on it you could put sugar on it and uh different been hug him different been huging so uh so that to me is for sure my favorite pace of food and in fact I think it finally healed but you know I had put a lot of oil in the pan more than I really should have and I flipped it successfully and when it fell the hot oil splattered all over my arm I got this big burn it slowed me down but it didn't stop me I had two more matabar I had to make because we had a lot of people over now obviously that's supposed the way my minut is to make it at G and like I say uh you know that's probably my favorite PES food now my good friend mha David who is on a number of my online shorum and uh fact fat came to project Inspire convention so we could spend shabas together um he uh he insists that even though he's kidish that you can mix the Mata with eggs and it doesn't become G and he has a egg in mat mat I don't know it's not my M to make it that way you have to pour the hot water on top of it but uh but he says it comes out very good good so you know anybody who wants and I'm sure you could leave a comment then he'll be happy to answer you what his particular method is okay and the next question is by TM if the reason we have to go through n yonos in this world is so that our in the next World should not feel like mat getting a gift for free then why could give us this while creating for us the pleasure as if we worked to get it can't Hashem do everything there who I heard addressed this question a number of times um because when he gets asked this question he says the reason we're in this world is to earn uh because otherwise it'll be um Ned Thea the bread of embarrassment because we didn't earn it we were just handed to it and then he would ask this question he would say but couldn't hashe just put us into Alaba and have us give the pleasure already and he says I guess ultimately we'll never know the answer so that's very problematic because the Z Kadesh is answering the question M they also understood this question too so I heard a recording one rakab Weinberg where he gives an answer and uh it's it's a very very powerful answer if you think about it what is the greatest pleasure go to Alaba and get the greatest pleasure so we think of Pleasures in terms of physical Pleasures a steak dinner you know a uh uh you know uh you know heated swimming pool you know cold drink those kind of things the pleasure of Haba andil speaks this out the pleasure OFA is being close with a and every relationship you have to work at and if a relationship is wished on you and not by your choosing you don't enjoy it um the uh classic example is everybody knows parents love children much more than children love parents and in fact Rashi says that if your father is breaking into your house to steal even though there's a den that a person who's in a tunnel leading into your house you can kill him because if he's that determined to rob you he'll kill you too not if it's your father but if it's your son you can kill him because he'll kill you yeah and uh uh what's the reason for this and when I ask this to audiences of all Stripes all around the world I say who loves par people more parents loving children or children loving parents everybody says parents love children why because they chose that relationship every kid can always say I didn't ask to be born the parents made a choice to bring these people into this world the children didn't choose the relationship so if the greatest thing is going to be relationship with a KES then um then if you don't work on that relationship you don't have a real relationship it's not real and then he says if you go a little deeper you'll realize that the greatest pleasure is not having relationship with Hashem it's being Hashem to be so that you are you are on that level I'm not relating to you I am like we said by the luos the the tumim the twins the two attached that become one yeah that's the ideal the ideal is to be so close that jish attached there's no way to get that without earning it because the thing about a k baru is he's independent he uh is unlimited he makes choices because he wants to if a kesu doesn't allow us to make any choices then we're the least like a kesu we're just an animal okay so listen to what the assumption is create me put me in alaba and fool me into thinking I'm having the greatest pleasure and really not so what's the point to that I don't even have to make people just make a computer program push a button and it goes happy happy happy happy happy happy it's not experiencing anything God's not giving you the greatest pleasure he's tricking you into thinking you got the greatest PR that's cruel why would he do that what's the point what's the point of making anybody but if I can create a person who is independent and he can learn learn how to grow and become like you can do this on your own and then relate to not like a computer program or an animal or a child but like a marriage two equals together that's the purpose of life there's no purpose to fooling people into thinking they're getting the greatest pleasure they're not I hypnotize you and and you you think that you know you're married and you have a happy marriage and you've got kids and you got a job and the whole thing is nothing you're nothing you're nothing that's just sick what's the point of that this is a meaningless life in order to have a meaningful life he wants you to get the pleasure for real not to trick you into it okay so that's it for this episode if you want to find out more about the show you can go to my online uh website ri.com you can leave a comment you can listen to 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