PART 5: Singing A Sephardi Shabbos with Ezra Orlofsky (Ep. 217)

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of war in Poland and you know what do you mean Portugal he says yes someone looked into our roots and we originally come from Portugal we were part of the D Silva family and they moved to Turkey and from Turkey to Poland so uh I'm actually a Portuguese so as you can tell from my thick port CH anyway this uh Jean has uh lied dormant in our family for about 500 years and uh I am privileged to have on the show with me my nephew Ezra orlovski a a of course a old saric name orlovski and uh he has reconnected with his saric roots and I asked him uh to uh be on the show with us to give us insight into uh how uh SPID muros work what are the various Tunes Etc so Ezra a privilege welcome to the rowski show the privilege is mine thank you for having me on the show all right now I just a background for the studio Ezra is the genius of the family he uh whereas people like me uh would go in into like history and and literature and things like that he was in um uh uh by uh microbiology microbiology chemistry chemistry I was going to do that but it was like so easy so I would much rather do history but uh so uh he of course applied himself to his uh New stic Heritage with the same level of enthusiasm so Ezra I I want to understand how sarim approach I know how ashkanam do miras and you do too because you were ashkanazi for the first part of your life till you did Chua and returned to your roots so how does uh aari approach zirus on chabas I mean the whole thing has got to be a different experience right uh yeah well um saradi Tunes tend to be kind of monotone for people who don't chant they yeah and um you stay with like one sort of scale through the whole song there's no like low part High part most of the time so it's just sort of like that's what it kind kind of sound like but once you get into it you find a lot of nuance and a lot of uh kind of connection to the actual uh words so it's it's very subtle yeah subtle music all right so you're gonna walk me through now a saric shabus right you come on from Shore now we right away do sh yeah sh yeah I've been using actually a Portuguese tune really yeah Small Wonder yeah how's it [Music] goom it's good the second part yeah I think it was a song about Alexander the Great or something at some point yeah beautiful a lot of his far Tunes are are not like Jewish really yeah well a lot of Jewish ones there lot of ashaz ones also that were taken from uh yeah yeah and you'll have it go both ways like people will say that well maybe it was theadi Jews or not but M Jews who made the tunes there was there's I know a few of those like that like um there's one that goes [Music] uh so that's a Syrian song and um it's mhak like it's very clearly a Syrian song and you can search for it AIA it's like a you know Arabic like love song um but apparently the Syrian Jews were singing it first and then one of one of them wrote a song to it to it and it like took off wow and then he never wrote another song after that because he was upset that he took something kadosh and made it basically kind of wow and then he you know so that's the Portuguese shim uh Moroccan what I do for sh so I don't know Moroccan sh but I know Moroccan so one second who else has a shal uh see this is amazing thing because we as him whether you come from Poland or you come from Russia or you come from Hungary not that much of a difference you know I mean in the tunes but but if you're Iraqi or you're a Moroccan or you're a Persian I mean completely different music well it depends who you ask you ask me it sounds quite different because I've been listening to this music for a while but people don't seem to a lot of people don't seem to hear the difference between like a Moroccan song or a Syrian song or Egyptian but they do oh yeah yeah they you that's like the thing you know so what other sh I don't know more shalam Alim Tunes yeah but I do know like I said the what I try to do is is you find that like these uh Jews if you go over to them and start like poking them like hey you got a got a good Friday Night song and so on eventually something will come out you know a lot of them when they're they're very unassuming you know very like quiet but oh no we don't even sing you know oh really I'm sure and then and then what you have to do is you have to sort of ply them a little bit like how do you do you know like oh okay that that one I do have a tuned for you know so from they go to uh yeah where there's something in between yeahi or in English because we've been doing it in English really is there a I don't know one off the top of my head I know one it goes like really good that's really good that'll be fair every tune I know sounds exactly the same just like that it's a whole different experience because when uh when a few times I've done I've done shabat for uhic um shabat and stuff and uh they just chant the whole doing CH everything the says that um you're supposed to not make any noise as the audience just listen to the hazan read the whole thing through or just say it all along with him well I've been had a couple where they give out like sug zimra to different people to do yeah and they do it out loud and Noone you know yeah but it's a part of the whole experience is that you hear everyone read it out loud or thean read everything out loud and then you get really in touch with the uh the dikduk which is a big deal among this far yeah like you like there's this expression the benishai writes that the your when it says not to make the blocks of the m not to chop the blocks yes don't like lift the iron against it correct okay so he says that's your tongue and the and the words don't don't chop the words up because you don't know how to how to like use your tongue properly yeah like you have to make them whole blocks and it's it's a very like prevalent idea among this farim that you have to pay attention to every letter if there's de or not aish if it's a soft you know vet or or a hard cough or all these different things or if there's like a like if the accent is the beginning or the end of the word as like to do that during CH Torah because it's a group participation event to scream at the person if he mispronounces a word not cuz they care much about the dick du but just because it's fun you know and that's why I learned my B Mitzvah from a tape I just memorized it from a tape so for my U I had someone quickly teach me the Trap so that I could uh I could Lan and I I I had a short period of time to do it you know I was really rushing so um just before I got called up for the ha Torah I went up to the RV and I pointed about halfway through and I said here hand out the candy bags because I know people will be too busy to notice what I make good mistake good one what was your uh para's bow nice it's coming up you know like only a bar Mitra boy can Lan like that anyone else they'll beat them to death but anyway so um uh i d a menu where they move it along at a healthy Pace in fact we had a real B came and he says what time is shakas The Gabby says 8:25 till 8:40 the guy burst out laughing he was laughing for five minutes straight he thought that was the funniest thing he ever heard but anyway okay so then H is K fine and then what are the you have Friday nights mirr then we launch into which is like from the AR it's kind of long this goes on for a while it stays exactly the same yeah just the same thing over and over and over and I think part of these kind of things is that you go places in your head when you when you use the same tune over and over again at you connect on a certain way with these with the words and with the what you're doing to a point where um you experience something yeah yeah most people don't have patience for that but uh well that's a f it's a Friday night experience you know it's it's uh one of those kind of things I mean one of the famous kind of group of that is among theim is the bakashot they have different groups of je of of saradi Jews I say saradi but I really mean any like mrai um you have the like main group the Syrian what they call this tune that you just did that's Moroccan that's Moroccan yeah I I learned it from a Moroccan family martiano yeah are there other versions of this zema uh yeah there are many I didn't really I don't like them though how do they go Al I'm very this is the cat yeah this is yeah this is good one that was a catchy one this is my catchy uh what's like a less catchy one well I so I have a friend who's who's Persian he taught me one and I I just I couldn't it was like not working for me so I just left it I got you I'm I'm very I feel okay with in as much as like I'm I'm a stranger to the whole thing you know I grew up ashkanazi but um I feel okay with just picking and choosing I like this I don't like this I'm fine with that I don't I'm not like um H we call dogmatic or something about how I approach this okay so that's the first Friday night zammer yeah okay and then so because this is a new world to me I don't know anything about's Mir okay but I I may also not be 100% typical among saradi singing people I'm sure that the audience will write me a bunch of angry emails telling me what I left out so don't worry about it I just I will put the disclaimer on okay so so what I do typically is I look for the Mak of the Shabbat okay I know what that means okay what's that so aakam is like a musical scale like for instance hus you know that's hus sa which was this Shabbat it's a little lower and it's has different moods associated with different things like husse is like very Sublime very like Godly you know spiritual whereas sabba is more like marching and it sounds like SAA right like so this week let's say for was sa well not according to everyone they're like disagree you mean every shabas they they they like they send out a memo like this is the T this is the type of a tune that we're going to do yeah well you have to know that I'm very influenced by Syrian Jews and Syrian Jews are unique because like you sort of have to be a Syrian in order to like be Syrian but um I spent a lot of time they don't accept gum you know I I don't judge sorts of I saw a sha I was a sha in Brooklyn and they have a big sign up there saying I think I was there too yeah we we don't don't don't don't come in I judging these are like you know this is like they're very very um scholarly so I'm not going to like tread in that but um I lived in um yosa Shalom I lived in his house for a year and their their roots of their family are from Damascus really yeah and he basically taught me he doesn't look like the average Syrian Jew he looks more morocc you know he he was very unique because he was able to pull together a lot of different musical Traditions like he play my wedding yeah nice mine too up so he has he has Moroccan songs and he he his last album uhon um he some of the songs are sung by um a fellow Bon good musician from uh New York morocc they did the air and yeah um T yeah it's really good anyway yeah so so um I learned the like Rhythm of the of the of Hebrew from him he had such a good Hebrew it was amazing I could just like I could just listen name just talk was like special he he really put a certain style into just the words uh and so there's a website called pon.com pison like a pison means a a Hebrew song that was put onto a like basically an Arabic tune but it doesn't have to be it could be other things as well so they don't use the terms no not really they say pison yeah okay um so so in that on that website I visit it every week and check it out those are mainly uh halabi Jews you know from aleo yeah and maybe because I live in the Gan now also and I'm basically right in the like I visit Syrian ruins all the time like I go you know bathe in the Syrian Captain's pools you know like I do that like right maybe that's also part of it but um like I really like it it's very very special uh music and every week has its own sound but for a reason like let's say sabba among the D Mascus uses not theim is is for the for and the reason why is because when you have a whole group like the all of yakov's kids when you have a bunch of numbers or if you have a lot of um let's say the high the in or P you do Sab so you know yeah so I'll typically go through my book and find ones that I like in makam saba and I'll sing them wow and my kids like some well at least my little daughter does so that's the uh that's the first that's the Friday night zammer yeah Friday night is then the next popular one is well the next well look I mean in the in the there's not like a census really there's not yeah like if you open up the if you open up any ashkanazi Ben you're going to find the same songs Friday night the same one shop is day yeah you won't find that you'll find every single Bon oron or whatever has in it barai like first one like the bayai that we do on L sure [Music] that's I learned the words a long time ago Fray night uh I don't sing it every Friday night because the the syrians again they're big influence on my like musical whatever I care about they put it really far into the bakashot like it's like almost at the end of the bakashot and like to sort of get there you got to kind of like work your way up and a lot of times I fall asleep before I manage to make it all the way there unless I'm in that makam which is like around makam R like I lost you so what I mean to say is is like I like to work my way up and because they put it so far into the repertoire done by then by the time I get there I'm normally like I don't I don't always hit it sometimes I do and then it's special okay yeah but there's also a lot of like breaks like they like for instance [Music] um you know that kind of a thing so you like stop and sort of appreciate where you're where you are in that's in the regular tune of the of the halim yeah oh wow okay so we got two so far so yeah is is a is in every single at like the beginning of the of theot but like I because I'm who I am I don't do it at then I right wait um I do at least one or two songs of Abraham IB Ezra just because it's like you talk about someone who really like knew how to throw down a Hebrew song yeah he was like he's like the elephant in the room with Jewish music oh yeah so for example what's which ones do you do I I do almost every single [Music] week hi hi it just keeps going like that oh yeah it's every dayra no but what tune is it that's a that's Syrian Siran I don't know any morocc I'm sure the Moroccans have a tune for that okay sure but Moroccan song I do also almost every single Friday night is uh [Music] oh this a famous One everyone knows this one I learned this from Penta yeah yeah and uh it's that's a really good one and moves along and so on I it's that is asazi uh perspective probably the the most tuneful tune that you've sung yet yeah that's that's very typical of Moroccan Tunes is that they they sound like a song really yeah and the syrians not so much right like take anything that Jo Amar did that's all almost all Moroccan as far as I can tell he himself was right and there's like you know shalom Shalom right it's it got a tune right but like when when I'm by myself I like to see I that's SCH wrote that I mean he's I mean also him was like like there are certain people that like you see anything by them and it's like okay just stop what you're doing and just focus on on what they wrote because they were so amazing yeah yeah um so so that's him but um I like things that are more subtle you can say less tful less tuneful I do it's just who I am I just like things that are long drawn out kind of so there's don't really know where you're headed with it there's Syrian and there's Moroccan uh you know Persian ones Persian is too tough for me sorry really why they have this like um ability to like waver their voice a certain kind of ability that like I don't I don't know how to do and and I I feel like every time I try stepping on a Persian tune I just sound like I'm like a mashing things up so I just also yeminite I don't do yeminite because it's too delicate for me really oh yeah like you have to you have to really really feel it and I don't so I just stay I just leave there you know you know like respect them in their place I I don't I mean I know some tunes are sort of spilled over from here and there but not I don't I don't as a whole and then there's Iraqi Tunes I love Iraqi tunes and Iraqi Tunes are monotone yeah very deep most of the time like low base you know like [Music] um I keep going but you get the point it's very like low deep and um they they have a a lot of songs that to me sound like the most uh I don't know maybe Victorious military songs like well maybe once upon a time in Iraq but now not I mean but it's it was in Saddam Phil maybe no but I I spent a lot of time in an Iraqi big knesset when I was in the South um I it's just you know I was looking for a minan and I just stumbled into a little bit Nessa with this Dome on top with a giant picture the benishai right and it was amazing because like the the like the the rav and his brother his brother's a mechanic of of in the in the for the police you know so these are like people with hands you know what I mean right like people with hands that could crush if you know what I'm saying yeah and they get up like an hour before sunrise and go to the mik and sit there with two pairs ofan on covered in talit read out everything like with Di and they say wow you know like sort of like the like the like very like heavy very heavy yeah so it's it's who whose is that that one I know from somewhere that's a that's a that's like a ladino oh really yeah that I heard in also also P sings That's one okay yeah yeah and you know any Egyptian Tunes uh yeah how was there different how was their song is different than uh these other ones it's very similar to Syrian okay they're not as close to you would think North Africa so it would be like that but it's not but because apparently it has to do with the adaman Empire okay like the syrians and the Egyptians and maybe a little bit into I don't know Libya or whatever they were part of the Ottoman Empire but like Morocco wasn't they were Berber yeah it's different sound there was early on the you know this I have some guys in my minion who have Bourbons also anyway yeah all right so let's get back to Friday night so we got two NE good and what else what do they sing what are they what are the bonim of Friday night um so so you have definitely something from Abraham Ezra in there so you did one is a really famous everyone does well I know the I know the tune from there's many types you [Music] know now P would do this also he could go he has versions that are 25 minutes long really oh yeah just guitar and crazy stuff going on and you know um I don't see how I could keep that tune going for 25 minutes well well if what it's about is about how amazingly brilliant God must be CU like look what he did like look what Happ like the world is spinning in nothing now if that concept can't take you for a good few minute like just trance you're not you didn't understand what you just said the world is spinning in nothing and they knew that people are like oh people thought the world was flat like no they didn't no but even talks about the relative sizes of like the sun to the moon to the Earth to he talks about how big the planets are not just not just what they're made out of and like how how many times you could expect to see an eclipse of like Jupiter like these these were like seriously Advanced people the Arabs were into astronomy yeah sure I mean the Greeks you really it comes from the Greeks tal me it was the alist which by the way I'm want my wife to buy for me it's 700 something pages and I want like I want like one that's like you know legit I don't want like yeah I hate those cheap Greek words yeah yeah I want the alest you know like a coffee table piece you know yeah but the reason why is because of how impressed were with him I I don't care like it doesn't matter to me that you know he was Greek or something like ramban says that like after he finishes he says okay yes we had from except it's all gone and now everything we have is from the Greeks but those were those books that they were using they the and of course the astronomy that the that the Arabs were involved in I think a lot of it was also Persia not necessarily the Arab not necessarily like ethnic Arabs but Arab speakers or Arab script users um yeah were doing a lot of work on the heavens like naming every single star you could see with your with your eye I'm talking like the thousands yeah you can do that now in the Star Registry for like $20 star 43 name a star after yourself yeah Fred see that star there that's Fred anyway letbe get a piece of a comet you know you see that ember that just disappeared that one after me all right give me another tune Friday night go [Music] ahead this is like standard Fair anything well so anything from AI who the tunisians will say is Tunisian and Yim will say is Yushi right because like he spent some time I believe at some point and then Moroccans will say is Moroccan but either way Ai and there was someone who wrote with him named Rahim Rahim I don't remember yeah Rah they wrote a lot of songs to like very popular song to very popular tunes of their day and and um that's like very very standard Safar material W yeah yeah that one is very famous a lot of people sing it I personally I'm not as into the material I like very very old stuff I don't know why it's just what's an example so give us an old tune go for it yeah but you have to understand again this is not like people a lot of people are not seeing this you you you I I had to dig around to find these things so anything from Nara is okay we we don't I know njar is a street and give a CH that's all I know so yeah but but he he has a lot of like very um deep songs that pull together things or do word play which I like like um in okay which this you know fast song okay char so you understand at this point I'm eating my own arm okay understand yeah yeah no I got you but I do want to point out I felt the same way about when I was growing up for sure I get that's a particular type of thing a particular type of thing but one thing that you have to realize I don't know if you did I Ed the word five times in five different ways right boom like if that kind of a thing fing on the tune now no I but that's that's ancillary to the whole thing also you have to you have to feel the fact that a lot of these Tunes are set by especially by sometimes it just focus on a yeah I'll just sing but by you're focusing on the words and it's almost as if the tune is incidental it's like learning muser just like I understand what you're saying but it's it's it's it's also a mood and and but yes you typically you're right mean to say I don't know many like just nigunim of like a nigun like with the ashim you [Music] go there's no I don't know there's words there's words in that song yeah but but I don't even know them but I know the tune but I but I don't there's not it's beautiful but but it's it's like a it's like a mood right but but but with the with among the songs it's it's mainly like a a mood of words [Music] like there's no words to that that's just a cool yeah so exactly so I don't I don't know I I definitely can't think of one I'm sure there are like ones that are but it it's more like you could imagine somebody like playing an oud or a violin or something and taking his time they're not like they're not like they're not like focusing on the music they're focusing on the peute and the words and the meaning and like like no take about one of the mirrors did you see I just used the word 5 what yeah right how about that wait hold on I got wait wait the party is just started oh yeah bring out such word play on that AR yeah that's right yeah what's that stuff they chew that the hallucinogenic that gots yeah that's that's the yeminite thing that's the yite thing yeah I've never gotten anywhere with it I've chewed a lot of gut and like all I felt was like boy that was a lot of leaves you know but it has like you have to take the the young the baby leaves I was I do remember one day where I had to work outside all right it was it was a hot summer day I was building a wet land by the way it's something I know how to do yes okay in case anyone needs a wet land a wet land uh Ezra specializes in what app purification uh yeah science natural water purification natural purification of water yeah stuff habitat if you will so but but in so I'm I'm am build there I am building a wetland it's hot and it's hard work because there's Stone involved and so on and uh the guy I was building for he's a guy in the Golan his name is Sag sairi he's he's yeminite so of course he's got got plants so I was just munching the the young leaves what is it what is it in English oh boy um I do know it's a drug it's well actually you ever heard of bath salts heard you ever heard of bath salts the ones that turn people into zombies and they eat the faces and crazy stuff that's a synthetic version of whatever's in got I thought be when you put in when taking a bath that helps okay so we're not on the same thing all right it's a drug is like the ones that come in a spray can that you can make like faces on the side of epom by the way I'm a big fan of Epsom Sals that's right they're very good H very good magnesium chloride you can eat that by little amounts but you should eat you should eat a little bit of Epsom salts very good for you I'm on my way yeah as soon as I finish chewing my gut not too much but okay but anyway so that day I I I recall I had no I was just working I don't recall something with an R I don't recall but you can find it I mean it's and I know the it's so odd that the synthetic version of whatever's in that is like a crazy material that turns people into monsters like makes them super humanly strong don't feel any pain literally can take a magazine for full of bullets and just keep going there's stories like this in Florida or something yikes but you know yemenites yeah right oh yeah oh yeah hotti shooting missiles at us now at the boats anyway yes fun enough you could still grow got like you can just grow it and but I I it I remember that like I felt great had no appetite and was just able to work the whole day without stopping you know I didn't need to eat uppers yeah it's an upper for sure but you have to eat the baby leaves I'm on my way okay I have something like that it's called coffee and uh no coffee coffee suppresses your appetite you know gives you energy keeps you up yeah but but but like when a farad drinks coffee he makes like a scene he like stops what he's doing like boils the water yeah every like it's a whole scene it's not like you know people sit around you know you talk or whatever you know it's not like something you drink and so that you could have energy to keep going it's is do that with everything Americans when they have like a coffee break so like they'll grab a Danish and a cup of coffee and Israelis a they start chopping up vegetables and they start mixing things and it's like a yeah a scene it's really like that when I came here originally they used to close down the country every day from two to before every store closed still like that go to sleep come back have a schitz take a nap and come back you know there there are definitely cities that are still like that like the whole place closes down on like Tuesday that's no right Tuesday afternoon nothing doing gotta do laundry I don't know something it was like that's the source in certain yeshivas where they have what's called No tet Tuesday they give you off Tuesday afternoon it's because in Israel everything used to close down you know my friend uh been Hammer he once wrote a song about particular Shiva we're working in you know I just remember one line from it it goes I walked in the base medish and there was no one in the room it seems like every day is just a Tuesday afternoon that's good anyway I just remember that so yeah okay so let's get some more songs here pizmonim another some pizmonim okay so so want Ezra yeah that's true um so no I got is also second one and then um at some point or some point or another someone's going to do kabat right that's also now even you do the same tune that Asam do yeah which is surprising that him do that because it's really A Christmas Carol yeah there's a few there's a few songs yeah well I've heard the syrians do it also so it's legit yeah what can I say a lot of Christians yeah even though with they the tel uses and then it's like sort of you feel like you're walking backwards with the song right but so you know but that's that's how it is the famous dra dun who that what is that from well he was Iraqi no I'm saying who the tune from I think it's either Iraqi maybe it's the Amite it's the most tuneful one any of them that you've done so far yeah that's a really good one but not only that but he was a real serious Garian yeah he even Ezra talks about him and and you know even ezar gives like a who's who in the world of dukduk starting with did you Hal yet you did that one right okay Habibi which one is that [Music] that's yeah you're not the taking [Music] off take it away hallelu [Music] Hallelujah [Music] now that's a fun song yeah that's fun that's fun is that like the only fun s song that exists it it's so you once you get into it it all feels kind of fun you know but you know you sang songs that were like monotone that just repeats the same thing that goes on for like 10 minutes yes that's not fun I'm connecting with the words at that moment that's what I mean I'm talking about from the tone point of view it is fun for me because I'm doing it's like it's like playing a computer game it's not well no sometimes was a fun to watch but like you know what I mean that like if you're playing some game that's relatively simple but like if you're in it it's it's more it's you feel it but yeah I remember when I was in why they had this song It went like this I know a song that gets on everybody's nerves I know a song on everybody's nerves I know a song that gets on everybody's I know a song that gets on everybody I know a so when you just have when you have like just something where it [Music] goes [Music] okay now how long can you do that when you find a very long time oh yeah it just goes on I just I I mean there's a lot of words in that song by the way Ezra was fellow who wrote it but like yeah yeah sure 100% I I don't so you see differ between that and H where H like you're already you know dancing you know like like something going on that has Moroccan influence anything with Moroccan influence is going to sound more fun because it was like a back had no fun iraim and khalim are not like that not they're they're uh more like with the virtuoso stuff maybe like it's you don't have a back and forth kind of remember I made a mistake when when chis I came on time to AI Shing and it was 15 minutes for carbonos yeah I love it they just keep going yeah and then it's like you know okay so you know you grew up they and it just goes on and I'm sitting going this can't be happening right this can't they you can't make people definitely Time Warp but that's sort of what attracts talk at least if everyone's talking well this is going on have a good time or something you know make a kidish club or something they all sit there and chant at the same time together uhhuh and then they have so much stuff to like the beginning is all Corban it's a long time and you got to say all these things and but but that's why it's like a Time Warp when you go into obviously because we were when we worked in the Bas of didn't take that long it took less time than it takes to say what does it say it says and then it says adictive right like you got to like chant while you're doing things it's like you know you you grind coffee by hand it takes a while so you like reason they running around they're doing this fast but some things only only come there's like a concept of salting right like with in chemistry also like when you want to do purifications using salt for instance what you could do or precipitation of DNA sometimes you need to have things sitting in the centrifuge for 90 minutes but you don't to CH during that you just put it in and then you come back 90 minutes later sit there and go true story DNA DNA is the way DNA DNA we do it every day it's more like I can keep going you know this this this is why I'm convinced that eventually all of K is going to bearty wow because they're just going to outlast us you know we as don't have the patience we're all going to just die keep chanting forever they'll never go away like you ever see these like really old spartum like 120 130 you know and they just like still chanting away and and that was really like a it was a huge attraction for me everybody's attracted by different things but like I would go so you got to get up at like the crack a dawn if you want to catch like a real San you got to get up early these guys won't be caught in the big knesset after like 6:30 in the morning like you can't find them it's doesn't it doesn't doesn't work so you have to get up while the Sun's still down and go searching go hunting so interesting the white show in farak um they have an Annex that they made with the sardam have a Nate's minion nice and then they asiz them have it the rest of the day because they all go off and no it's like it's not a thing to the electronics business whatever diamonds on 47 straight something so uh all right well we have time for one more zammer so pick pick your catchiest one that's left that we haven't done yet or the one that you like the best let's go back to to the to the Moroccans and we'll do okay this one I learned in kir ARA yes from one of the grandchildren of RAB David buag who was like if I you know if you know who's who in the world of Moroccan music like he was big stuff he wrote the song he also he wrote the song um a what he wrote many okay but this is this is from the babaali actually yeah y [Music] ES it only has one part though that's yeah that just goes on for a long time you have I have to tell you this I have found it so intriguing that at some point when we recover from this I I'm gonna I'm GNA I'm going to I'm going to get me I'm going to get me a Persian I'm going to get me an Iraq there's a l I'm get me a Moroccan I'm going to get me a Syrian and uh you never mentioned Turkish Turkish music you know my Rosa Thea where I learned dduk on like a formal level uh rabam goon he's he's Turkish one of those things where I feel like I would be I I don't I don't I'm not yet there I'm not there yet this is like serious ethnic people I just met a Turkish guy his name um he had this name wow it was like a do you remember it and he had his name of like literally like an angel name like malel something I was like whoa and I said are you are you Turkish I's like yeah I was like tell me you're from ismir I said yep like the there's certain like and like I could see like he he looked at me and he saw that like I understood like what was going on in his family like this was like a like a straight like boom like a saraf you know it was insane so we have to get a Turk yeah you got to get Turkish I only know one Turkish tune that I picked up years ago okay I'm kidding like likeis anyway all right okay well Ezra this has been educational for my mostly ashkenazic audience and uh for my stic audience I'm sure they'll be so happy that we have reached out to touch them like who's that want to be the thing is like it doesn't matter to me because I'm just I'm doing what I connect with I understand fine like I say you know I I when I was planning this out I asked for people you don't as for you know an e faric singer I said goes yeah but they all speak Hebrew I don't know any who's speaking any English so in fact I asked AR gold I said who do you suggest he goes may abitan I said he's in America what does that do for me you know I mean so but that's what we're gonna have to do we have to get all the different ones and get their perspective Dal I'll hook you up with him uh yeah who is he he he plays the old he's big he's big he's been like you know played big concerts all over the world should have gotten Penta when he was love yeah yeah he made a big big mark on you know like he he he helped a lot of kids connect with yish SW a character yeah but he he was so cool because he really didn't care IFI like it didn't matter for him it was about being evem and Men at Work yeah I come from a land down and he made it was it right that was that originally his son lives in ramot maybe I'll have time to see him tonight wow cool yeah galic all right well this has been a privilege for us and uh whenever we have an olowski on the show it's always a thrill you know and uh I mean basically we've had um we've had Yakov moshu Huda and um and schlomo so you know and I'm not as funny as they are you know yeah but they can't sing any sparting the gunam to the best know they could make fun of it pretty well listen you know the uh the untapped resources you know one of my brothers said to me that uh um the um uh when someone says to me is your name orlovski and goes I always wonder who they're going to pick out right because there are so many of us in so many different places that you know so uh I'm obviously the most famous and most accomplished but but but also the most Lo the most humble humble is I have to say my humility is the one trait that I've developed to the greatest of all but you know I I have brothers who are sh presidents and brothers who are you know heads of different organizations and things and all over the place and you know relatives and nephews and things and uh I remember um you know Nafi teaches in Hank you know so when I went to speak in Hank they said oh RAB alavi's uncle is here right that's like so there you go yeah so anyway so life goes on all right well that's it for this week my friends if you want to find out more about the show you can go to my website ry.com and you can sponsor an episode you can uh send an email you can sign up for one of our online Shum and on until next time I'm de olowski Asar olowski and this has been the rabbi olowski show it's the rabbi orlovski show Toren s ready to go the rabbi orlovski show knowledge and wisdom will help you grow lots of fun in every episode and we don't have to rhyme no we don't it's the rabbi orlovski show on Rabbi ori. comom Tor anytime YouTube and more it's Rabbi orlovski show Torah and S ready to go it's the rabbi orlovski show till next time till we meet again the rabbi orlovski show it's the rabbi Orlowski show it's the rabbi Orlowski 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