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and Yahushua Shm
Shepsel who is the fifth of Nissan.
So, uh, the last one particularly
significant because that's my brother.
Um, maybe I'll just take a moment. Yeah.
Yahosua,
uh, is of course the name that they
decided was his name, but it's not.
[laughter]
I don't know, he's going to get into
trouble for this, but it's not his name.
I know cuz I sat down with my father
once and I went through everybody in the
family's name and for the most part a
lot of the names come from my father's
mother's side the dubners and uh Jason's
name was Yishayahu
Shepsel now they changed it to Yahushua
because my father used to say it was
Shia
so when He started in Hebrew school,
they said Shia, well, that must be
Yahushua. But it's not. Shia is Yeshua.
And uh otherwise, it would be Shui or or
if it was if it was Yahushua, it was
Yeshua. And it makes sense because my
mother's father died when my mother was
a teenager. So, it makes sense they
would name their first son for him. And
his name was Yishayu Nasan. I saw a
picture of the mata. I saw my mother's
kuva. It was Yishayu Nosan. So his name
was Yisha Yahu. And somehow in Hebrew
school they changed it to Yahosua.
And uh there is no in our family on all
four sides. There's no there's a
Shepsil. And I remember my father had
told me his name was Shia Shepsil. And
uh that's uh that's from the Dubna side
and uh that's his name, but they go with
the oshu. So all I'm doing is uh is
adding that in.
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Someone said to me, "I don't think
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Now, regular listeners uh or watchers of
the Rabiowski show know uh that um I
don't shy away for controversial
subjects. I will deal with topics that
most people will not deal with. I don't
like to play it safe and if I think
something needs to be said, I will say
it. Uh, I think I think I've more or
less established
uh that over the years that I've been
doing this podcast. If there's something
that I think needs to be said, I'll say
it. And I might come out to upset people
on the right and I might come out to
upset people on the left. I might come
out to upset just people in general. And
that's what apparently I did. [laughter]
I'd like to read you two emails. Yeah.
Um,
the fir here's the first one. The second
one mitigates a little bit, but you'll
hear it. I'm sorry if I'm not that
coherent when writing this. I just
watched the episode and you were
reviewing the ideas of Mashallah in what
appeared to be a very demeaning, mocking
manner. To be clear, [snorts] it was.
How do you know that aren't hurting the
people who wrote down those ideas or why
they wrote them down? Do you know that
they aren't almon orim?
The was extremely upset when a fellow RV
insulted somebody's soup. Why do people
feel the need to say something bad or
mocking about someone else's food
creations?
Are you going to pay their salary and
the magazine's expenses to put together
a collection of normal recipes that
won't attract buyers? You very often
mention that people were maza you and
how hard hurt you were about it. You
should show more concern about pain you
might be putting others through,
especially if you might be hurting
someone's paranosa.
Uh, full disclosure, I'm not upset when
people are maza me. Uh, I'm upset that
people will watch my podcast and then,
uh, just write a whole bunch of nasty
comments, which I don't know what they
do. I don't I don't know what your what
your agenda is when you write a bunch of
nasty comments uh, afterwards. And like
I say, not a critique. This letter, by
the way, is a critique. I have no
problem with a critique. I mentioned
that last episode when I when I read one
of the comments and they say how, you
know, I often criticize and comment.
Criticize and comment. This is a
criticism.
That's okay. I'm not making fun uh and
insulting people. I am criticizing.
And that's a difference. It's a
difference between criticizing and
insulting.
Also on rewatch, you said you weren't
going to say the magazines they came
from, but the camera makes it clearly
visible when at least some of them were
from. I don't know how that happened
exactly cuz I kept them folded open, but
if so, for full disclosure, they wrote
it publicly. This is not a private
email. This is not a private
conversation.
the I didn't mention the magazines just
because I didn't want to but not because
it's user. If somebody stands up in a
public share and makes a statement and
you respond to that, that's for sure not
user cuz the person said it publicly.
These magazines printed this publicly.
It's available for everybody. So there's
no isser over here. I just tried to go
out of my way and if uh if it got out
there Okay. Okay. It's not it's not an
isser. I just want to be clear about
that. So even if you're completely wrong
about everything else and you receive
permission, that was wrong. I don't need
permission. I don't need permission to
read an article from a magazine. I
don't. Yeah.
Now, that that was his first email. Then
he sent a follow-up email. I'm sorry if
my previous message was hurtful, but I
felt it needed to be said. The truth is
I respect you and I'm going to continue
to watch slash listen to the show and I
wouldn't have sent a message if I didn't
think you had enough character to
appreciate it. There's a lot of people
that watch and you have a big influence
on people hashem and I appreciate
the criticism. I think I think you could
have said it nicer and I think you know
that and that's why when you started off
by saying that I'm not so coherent when
I'm writing this. I'm sure uh that if
you uh had rewritten it a couple of
times, I'm sure it would have come out
sounding less harsh. But the criticism
is criticism, and I'm not afraid of
criticism, and I'm okay with that. And
uh and and the issue that you're raising
is an important issue, and and it's one
that has to be raised.
There are times when I will speak
and people and I consider myself a
social critic. I I I accept that. I'm
I'm happy to point it out and to say
that when I see problems in the firm
community, I will criticize it. Now, to
be fair, if I see problems in society at
large, I'll mention it. If I see
problems in uh you know Israeli society,
American society, you know, in the
school, whatever it is, I will talk
about it. [snorts] And uh I have had
from time to time when I do this, people
say to me,
why isn't this lush and har on Israel?
You you hear the the the comment. For
many years, there was a large shmeir
salashian event for women here in
Jerusalem. Two of them, one evening for
uh Hebrew speakers and one for English
speakers.
And uh thousands of women would come to
each one.
So somebody locally in Harno felt gee
why are there so many um of these events
for uh for women and there's none for
men. So this fellow organized a local
salian event for men
and we always had two speakers.
One speaker was always Robert Le and
somebody else.
Again, to use one of my favorite uh
comic references, there were two comics
when I was a kid. One was called World's
Finest and one was called Brave and
Bold. Brave and Bold was always Batman
teaming up with somebody else. And
World's Finest was always Superman
teaming up with somebody else. Yeah. So,
we always had Rab left. I don't know if
he was Batman or Superman. And we always
had somebody else and we had some real
big names who came uh and and
participated over the years.
But one of the people I tried year after
year to get was Robert Bulman and he
wouldn't come. He always made some
excuse. They they weren't very good
excuses. And like I said, uh, Koschali
came, Zoang,
Riveness Kaplan came, uh, Rabbi Wine
came, um, you know, we had we had, uh,
you know, um, Israel Talbert came, we we
had quite a a lineup of people who came
and, um, but Ray Bulma wouldn't come.
where Mendel Weinbach came uh right
burkowitz came but uh but he wouldn't
come so finally I you know I had this to
have a relationship with Ray Bman most
of it was mostly him you know giving me
muser which is is a biguss to have
somebody like Bulman give you muser the
he was pretty young when his father died
and he moved in with his grandfather
kadusha rim so one boy in the kadusha
came back from uh Shul and he sees this
is still in bed and he starts yelling at
him what are you doing you're sleeping
you don't get up you misses
this this is how they used to make in
the old days you know you know and this
gives him a whole musm
and and is listening to the whole thing
and when he's done he says what do you
have to say for yourself he says I
stayed up all night learning and I dikes
[laughter]
says then why didn't you say anything he
goes what and miss getting mus from the
[laughter]
today you give people m you know people
get very upset you know but oh is one of
the nickn
so um so I I said to I said why won't
you come and listen to what he said he
said I'm afraid that the current
atmosphere
of putting emphasis on Shmeir's halion
is being used to stifle legitimate
social criticism
and I have to tell you that made such an
impact on me
because as I've mentioned more than once
I have two divorced daughters
and the reason they're divorced is
because people lied to us and withheld
information
and after they got divorced Most people
said, "Well, yeah, I knew about this. I
knew about that." And I didn't want to
say anything. I didn't want to say
anything.
So, you know, you you wanted to have
some sal because of that, I got two
divorced. Why? You think you did the
world a favor? You think you're a big
sadic because of this?
Oh, it's lash.
You know who said that?
who was then murdered because two people
tried to warn him these two guys are
going to murder you and he says
so then they killed him that's sadalia
because I'm such
[laughter]
then he got killed and he was there to
hold on to the remnant of that was and
then the mkanzer came after the
survivors and they all had to flee to
Egypt and they were all lost
because he was such a sad he didn't want
to hear anything.
So when I would sometimes uh give these
um
these talks uh
whatever it was and I would introduce
social criticism and I would often do it
by making jokes because when people are
mock of something and you make fun of
it, it's easier for them to see the
absurdity of what they're doing or what
they believe
um
when I used to give my sharim moti
shabas so it was a fellow used to come
fascinating fellow English fellow he was
a practicing attorney I think he was
actually a barristister barristister was
high higher than a lawyer or an attorney
and [snorts] uh I think then he get to
wear the white wig and everything and he
gave it up to become a storyteller
I don't I wouldn't even call that a
lateral whole career move, you know, and
he'd go around to fairs and to, you
know, county gatherings and stuff and he
would tell stories and pass around the
hat, you know, he did this for a while.
Then eventually he came to fell and then
became from and then he got married and
he and he went back to uh to practicing
law. But but for a while he did that and
so he appreciated
listening to stories and presentations.
He understood how they worked.
And he said to me once,
um,
"When I listen to your Shirum, what I
see you do is hold up a funhouse mirror
to life.
You see yourself, but you're so
exaggerated you have to laugh." That's
what humor is, right? It's an
exaggeration.
You you you you you
that's what when people do an
impersonation if a person does an exact
impersonation it's not that interesting
but it's exaggerated becomes too much
you know I don't know how you would
imitate Gavin Newsome I don't know how
to make the hands go any more than it
already does but
but the uh the exaggeration
um is what makes it funny and makes you
laugh and so it's true you see yourself
and distorted and you laugh. That's
that's what a fun house mirror is. Yeah.
So afterwards people say to me but isn't
that I said gee what do you do with
how do you read iso?
It's mus against cla
and he said it publicly and he wrote it
down
and we read it for doros.
How do you read yo? How do you read
Treyasa?
H how do you read anything where Gdolei
Torah gave Mus to their generation?
I I've spoken about this in the past and
uh you'll you'll indulge me. Repair
the Rashiva of Yeshua Faraku. I heard
him on a tape once and he said, "How is
it we have a phenomena called Holocaust
deniers? There's so much evidence to
support it and you don't find any other
contemporary event that is, you know,
that that there are people who try to be
taken seriously by denying it. Okay, the
moon landing, you know, you have people
who say we never really landed on the
moon, you know, okay, but I'm talking
about like real people who try to, you
know, go in debates and things and to
discuss it. It's it's ridiculous.
Deborah Lipstat, who wrote the book
called Holocaust Denial. So, she says,
"From time to time, I'm asked to appear
on a talk show with a Holocaust denier,
and I always refuse."
And they say, "Uh
um, don't you think people have a right
to hear the other side?" And she says,
"There is no other side. It's
ridiculous. It's all lies. It's all
distortions. I don't have to give these
people any time.
And you know, you don't ask a geologist
to debate a flat earth uh you know,
proponent that like they have a view.
It's not a view at all.
It's nonsense.
So um uh
so to to to to give credence to to a
view that doesn't make any sense I'm not
to do that she says
but yet there are people who deny the
Holocaust
so says whenever there's a phenomena
that takes place in the world outside
it's only reflection of us. Now he
didn't say this
Vasam
once said what a crazy idea blood liels
the only people on the face of the earth
who it's also for them to eat blood
I spoke to Amashk once and there was a
trade for Chinese restaurant that they
were conuring after it closed down to
make it into a kosher restaurant he goes
and we found this squeeze bottle filled
with blood I don't know exactly what
they use that for black pudding. I don't
know if they've changed the recipe, but
black pudding used to be made out of
blood. We're the only people who are not
allowed to eat blood. We soak and salt
our meat, etc. And they come up with an
idea that we kill children and drink
their blood. You know, doesn't make Why
would anyone say such a thing? So it
says
I I can't say for sure but if I was
pressed I would say it's because since
theatim pretended that animal blood was
human blood that is the basis for blood
labels. That's where it comes from.
That's uh that's what he suggested. So,
so says repair if there's something
called holocaust denial it's only
because we are holocaust deniers
v meant
um
I told the story too
we used to do a tishab program here in
hoof it's still going on
runs it and I was involved at one point
and Now I'm I'm basically uh I'm in very
centers yeshiva on tishabove morning and
um
uh I got an incredible email from
somebody who said that uh I went to that
program and that was the you know that
that changed my whole life and
everything hashem we do some good work
but I was there once and uh I I have a
tendency as you can see from emails like
this to say things that got myself into
trouble. And I had spoken about certain
topics in the past and uh people got
upset at me. So I figured to take
something that was innocuous
and I decided I would speak on the ka of
the 24 cartloads of garas that were
burnt in Paris.
And I use that as a jumping off point to
talk about cover
and based
because when you come in and you find
all over the place and coffee cups and
dirty tissues and in Kelm they used to
auction off the right to clean the base
madish.
Now there there were towns where the
women used to used to fight for the
right to be able to wash the steps of
the of the basa medish of the basicus.
So um
uh so I was talking about this and I
read a
letter to the editor in the Jewish press
about how people do not respect deting
and it said 50 years ago what would
people have given? I guess this must
have been written in 1995. I suppose
it's 90 94 95 somewhere around there. 50
years ago, what would a person have
given to be able to dab in a minion
to to to be able to have a shul when
[snorts] I used to go with Niva's tours
with the freeds to Europe. So, uh, when
we went to Prague,
we went to the,
uh, what was called the the deluxe
concentration camp, Terresenat,
and they discovered under one of the
houses a secret shaw.
And they somehow figured out who it was
who built it. and his grandson came
along on on this trip to see his
grandfather's shaw that he had made in
Terzenat.
And uh while we were down there,
one of the people said, "Why don't we d
Mina?" And we put up his grandson to
Davin. It was one of the most moving
experiences I've ever had. Here he's in
his grandfather's shaw who made a
special secret shaw in teranat to be
able to dab. I mean, he says, "50 years
ago, what would people have done to be
able to to uh to daven um
Israel Stark, who we had uh a long talk
with, um it's up on my it's up on my uh
channel, um about his experiences in the
Holocaust." And he says there, you know,
there was one night I I I'm dreaming. I
hear I hear a noise and it turns out
everybody's Jim Kipper Knight everyone's
saying called nre to themselves you know
in like a group
and he he says it was so moving you know
that that we had that much strength left
to be able to dive in on a yam kipra to
say it he says what would people have
given to be able to dive in what would
they have given to be able to hear ka
what would they have done to be able to
to answer to a kadesh and Now that we
can Yeah. Um, do we appreciate it or do
we talk and and and and treat our our
schuls with disrespect?
Maybe if we saw our shs and yeshivas
turned into stables,
it's because we turned them into
stables.
So someone from the floor says, "I must
object."
Now, this is not a group participation
event.
And he says, "Are you telling me that
Lublin got turned into stables because
they did something wrong? No one can
question the Kadoshim."
And I said, "The point I was trying to
make was," and he starts crying. And he
says, "I lost 80 relatives in the
Holocaust, are you saying because they
did something wrong, no one can question
the Kadoshim? No one's allowed to say
anything." And he
continues crying.
So I weighed my options and I decided to
sit down at that point.
[gasps]
Not because he was right,
but just because it's really hard to
have a dialogue with a crying Holocaust
survivor. I mean, in my experience, you
know, there are certain things you just
don't want to do. Yeah. But the next
year or a couple years later, I don't
know what it was. I spoke on the kina
for the shawah,
there were two of them. One was written
by Shiman Schwab and and one by the ba
reba. And um and I spoke about it and I
addressed this point
and I said my rabbi pis said
the only reason that the world out there
can do holocaust denial is because we
deny the holocaust.
You're not allowed to say there's
anything that we did wrong. You're not
allowed. Just bad luck.
God decided to kill six million Jews for
no reason. We didn't do anything wrong.
There were no sadik.
Well, Avict Millis famously in his shaw
where they were Holocaust survivors
would talk about the aes
that uh that led up to the Holocaust and
they would scream at him. You're
defaming the memory of the kadeshim. And
he says, "And you are defaming the name
of a bar."
We think God is random. Think he does
things for no reason. But you understand
it's forbidden to criticize what took
place that led up to go to say it. It's
user. That's called holocaust denial
because it didn't happen for any reason.
But we're allowed to allowed to ask why
was bias rishon destroyed.
They were allowed to ask why was bias
sheni destroyed.
They were allowed to ask why was betar
wiped out. The shonum can ask why were
communities wiped out in the crusades.
Theum could ask why was 90% of the
yidden in Eastern Europe destroyed in
Takat. What a ver led to it. But this is
the only tragedy you're not allowed to
ask why
not allowed to say anything. Linhara,
what do you think? There weren't Yesus
and Almanas who were killed and you dare
to question them? You dare to to to
say anything negative about Claw
yourself? That's a Holocaust den.
Not me. I'm not saying that.
Yeah.
And so when I get up to speak and I see
a problem,
I am going to stand up and say,
"Rabisai, this is wrong.
Don't do this.
>> [snorts]
>> was a story in Warsaw. I believe it was
in Warsaw
that there was a shoemaker and he had
only one daughter and his whole life him
and his wife lived very simply and
scrimped and saved every penny they had.
Or maybe it was cop over there, saving
up their money to make their daughter
the best
they could.
And finally she found the shik and they
hired the finest hall
and they had the tailor make the finest
clothing
and a beautiful wedding gown and they
hired a horse and carriage to take them
to the hall.
And the wealthy people in town were
upset by this upstart that was coming
into their
area into their uh place
their special place.
So they all got together and they
planned. They got their dirtiest ripped
shoes. And as the shoe maker and his
wife all dressed with their daughter got
out of the carriage, they were all
standing by the entrance of the hall
saying, "Can you fix these shoes? I need
them by Tuesday. Can you repair them
to embarrass him and destroy it?" When
Salanta heard this, listen to this. When
Bul Solander heard this, he said, "The
Rabanim of Warsaw for the past 10 Duros
are right now being brought up to din
and Shamayim that they were allowed this
kind of an attitude to exist in this
city."
You understand? Because they didn't say
anything because they didn't criticize
and therefore they allowed this to take
place. When my time comes,
I hope that a bar didn't doesn't say to
me, "Orlavski, you saw problems in the
world. Why didn't you say anything?"
I don't like to get involved. What do
you mean you don't get involved? You
have a you have a forum. You talk to
people. As he says in the email, people
listen to you. You have a big influence.
You see a problem. Why don't you say
something?
So I say, well, I don't want to offer up
any social criticism because maybe the
person who did it is an almano or yosum.
Maybe I'll hurt somebody's feelings.
So if the rv would have come out and
yelled at these people, these rich
people, maybe one of them was a ysum.
Maybe he's going to hurt their feelings.
So the the rub says, "Why should I
criticize anybody?
That's evil." I want to be very clear
about this. When you see something bad,
you say it. You remember they used to
have those posters up in the subway. If
you see something, say something.
I was just in the bank.
My wife and I went up to the teller and
my wife left her jacket. It's a little
windbreaker on on the couch and this
woman comes in and says, "Does this
belong to somebody?"
Wife says, "Yeah, it's mine." He goes,
"You know, you have to be concerned
today in our show when you see
something." I was like, "It's a
windbreaker, you know."
But she's right.
She's right. You see something, say
something.
So in case anybody else like this reader
or this listener missed the point I was
making
right I would never make fun of anybody.
So you're comparing it to criticizing
somebody's soup. I would never criticize
somebody's soup, somebody's dish.
I have been at places where
uh the people are um are uh what's the
word I'm looking for? Cooking impaired.
And I
I'm pretty good at food. I know
something about food. There there's a
reason I look the way I do. And I've got
type two diabetes and heart disease. You
understand? [laughter]
Because I know about food. You know,
sometimes I'll uh I'll go to a
restaurant and my wife says, "Oh, this
is so wonderful, so good." And that I
don't say a word cuz I don't want to
ruin the experience for her. Personally,
I'm like, "Eh, [panting]
I'm not going to say it." Luckily, my
wife doesn't listen to the podcast
[laughter]
cuz she's enjoying it. So, why should I
make her feel bad? And if I'm at a a
meal and people serve food, yes, I'm
going to compliment, etc. That's not my
point.
That's not my point. And if somebody
wants to make a elaborate shakon because
it's meaningful to them,
of course, if you can make a shakonus
that makes people happy, that's
wonderful. So, I have a daughter who is
very creative, very artistic, and I
should have put it on Prozac as a child
because she is just obsessive.
She just is. I love her to pieces. But,
but she will stay up all night,
you know, making little salmon flowers,
60 of them. the second time cuz the
first time they baked too long and they
came out too dark. She wanted them to
look pink, [laughter]
you know. Okay,
I love you, whoever you are who likes to
bake kala napkin rings. I have no
problem with that. If you think that's
the best use of your time, go for it. I
don't mind.
I have been to homes uh on Shabas, you
know, where they have mayonnaise and
each one in a separate uh spritz bottle
and they spritz it on the plate before
they put out the filter fish. If that if
that makes you happy, by all means.
I have a problem with that, you know. So
this daughter always says when you make
shalakis besides the fact that you need
a theme and the costumes have to tie
into the theme it should be something
that you know you're going to use
afterwards you know so I give a a glass
bowl I give a glass tray or you give
something that you know that people are
going to be able to use afterwards and
remember that that's why I use a paper
bag because I know that afterwards you
can use that to take lunch in.
So what's my point here? Do I do would I
ever insult somebody and call them up
and say, "Oh, why' you make such an
elaborate shas for?" No.
I still I still remember when uh I had a
neighbor whose wife got into chocolate
making and she made this all this
amazing stuff out of chocolate and
little things and then you know and
shapes and size and sent this whole tray
with this chocolates. I was like, "Wow."
He delivers it. I was unbelievable. And
I took a piece and I ate it. He was
devastated.
[laughter] No, I would just spend the
and get upset if someone actually eats
it.
It's like these people who make these
fancy cakes, you know, for a sima and
then someone slices it open and they're
like, you know, [laughter]
why would you make a cake then? Should
have just made it out of styrofoam.
Why would you why would you make a big
fancy cake like that? Yeah. So, um
uh the answer is of course that uh the
you know how's it go? The proof of the
pudding is in the eating. You make nice
things because you want people to enjoy
it. But if you made it and you don't
want anyone to use it, I think you've
defeated the concept. in Mishim
where Shinberg used to ask Mishma's
Thursday night. So one of them was can I
give as a
for those of you unfamiliar with this
principle it's the following I can give
you a gift and that gift is yours but it
only becomes yours if you return it to
me that's the condition and if you don't
return it to me so where does this come
up it comes up with lulan
um on the first day of sukus because the
first day of sukus it says
It has to belong to you on the first
day. So someone says, "Listen, can I use
your dollar?" So I it only works if I
give it to him. Only problem is because
you never know who you're dealing with.
The person might say, "Thanks. He gave
it to me as a matana. Now it's mine. I'm
keeping them." So I give it to him as a
it's only yours if you give it back.
So this is great. I make one
and I give it to somebody as a it's only
becomes yours if you give it back to me.
So was I yay or not?
So Shinberg answers technically you are
but in fact you're not because the
purpose of is to bring
and if I give you something and I take
it away from you then before you have a
chance to enjoy it then obviously it
wasn't.
So if you're somebody who enjoys making
elaborate shakus that's wonderful.
There's nothing wrong with that.
My problem is that these are three major
publications
and the from community
that people read and listen to and I
know they do.
I know there are people who, you know,
read these suggestions and then they do
it.
Now, I don't know who this person is.
I've met some of these people, but
sometimes they set up a tablescape
and you have to buy a special
tablecloth and you have to buy special
dishes and you have to buy special place
mats and you have to buy special things
to put the flowers in and special things
for this and special glasses stuff.
You want to say how much money you just
spent on this
for us
because the magazine told you this would
make a really impressive table and then
you spent all that money.
So this is what's called conspicuous
consumption.
You can call it materialism. You can
call whatever you want.
And that is wrong. Raboai
when I made my PES program. So I had a
choice of hotels.
I've been planning this for 20 years at
least.
And I said I only want a three-star
hotel. I don't even want a four-star
hotel.
Why? Cuz I want to try to keep the cost
as low as possible for people.
And I don't want people coming because
they want to go to a fancy hotel. You
want to go to a fancy hotel? Go to a
fancy hotel. You don't have to come to
my program.
There's a program here in Erstro where
they used to do it in a I don't know if
it was a three star or a fourstar, but
it was a pretty simple hotel
and I used to go to speak there
and the room was packed and then at some
point they moved to a five-star hotel
and I went to speak there and there were
four people.
Four people, two of them weren't from
the hotel. They just heard I was
speaking.
Why? Because the people wanted to come
to a fancy hotel, not for not for a
program.
So, as I mentioned, if you're going to
spend $50 on each shakon just for the
cups to stack up
and then you you you you put these
demands on everybody.
And one of the saddest episodes of
recent Jewish history
were the wedding tyonists that were made
in America.
Yeah.
People were spending ridiculous amount
of money on weddings that they can't
afford.
So they came out and said when people
were spending so much money on funerals
to the point that they couldn't afford
it. So was makain. I am the nussi. I
have all the money in the world. I want
to be buried in a simple linen shroud
without any accutrants.
Why? Cuz people couldn't afford to make
a decent funeral. So they would take
their relative and dump them in a field
someplace because they couldn't make a
proper funeral.
And so now they make these weddings and
people are expected to have to make
these weddings.
And you see people go into debt for a
wedding for one night.
When I got married, I was young and
stupid. Now I'm old and stupid. But I
learned a few things.
And one is that if I had to do my
wedding over again, boy, would I do it
differently.
You know how much time you sit there
looking at books of invitations and then
you sit there and try to work out just
the right lush and this and next thing.
Today I would for sure make a flyer.
Come to a wedding. Where? When? You
know, seating according to gifts.
In fact, I would read them out loud. You
know, uh $200, Mr. Schwarz. Thank you
very much. $150, Mrs. Cohen. Thank you
much. $18 from the Goldbergs. I guess
you don't remember how much my parents
gave your kid. Okay.
And you know, I of course you want a
fancy hall and you want a fancy this.
But I do it now. I would find the
cheapest possible hall and I would get
the best band and a big and a big dance
floor and that's it.
For the main course, I won't fib must be
succulent prime rib juice big and juicy
filling up the plate. [laughter]
If you remember the journey song about
this, you know,
so what happened? And so the gdole all
got together and put out wedding
takonas. You can only have this, you can
only have that, you can only do this.
And then they wrote at the bottom. But
of course, if any Russia has to make an
exception for a donor, they can. And so
of course they made exceptions for
everybody. And then the pressure was
back on and the whole thing collapsed.
Whereas by one of theus
the p the price of the stime went up
very high
and the rebba called in the strimal
makers and said you're going to sell a
strim for $1,000 not a penny more and
they said rebba we can't the prices and
the fur and the work and everything's
gone up you know he says no problem if
you charge more than $1,000 I'm taking
off mine and I'm putting on a hat.
And you know what happened? Price of
strength went down
because
when you set a standard for people,
I talked about this. When you find an ad
in one of these Jewish magazines that
say finally a shait that your children
can be proud of.
When you see ads in these publications
saying spend pesak in a castle.
When you see ads in these magazines that
say um you know for a designer you know
for a Rolex or for or for an expensive
car like you deserve the best.
H yeah. Is that the message you want to
send to the firm community? you the the
voice of the f community,
I'm going to call you out for it. And I
don't care if that ad was taken out by a
mono and I don't care if the person
who's making the pes of the castle is
going to be insulted that I said that is
gross materialism and has no place in
the from community. And I don't care if
you're angry at me and you're upset
because I'm going to say it. As Rab
Bulman said to me,
Shmere's does not mean that you stifle
legitimate social criticism to insult
somebody's dish to make fun of their
soup at someone's house.
But a magazine that is setting a
standard for the Jewish community,
but you might be hurting their panosa.
Good.
Good. Because if that's the values they
want to give across, then I'm going to
call them out. And I hope they close
down. If the best that you can do is
encourage materialism and conspicuous
consumption in the FIRM community,
people who you read in some of these
magazines letters from people who are
who are going broke trying to pay
tuitions,
they don't have money for this, they
don't have money for that. and instead
you're going to spend uh $50 on each
shakon that you're sending out
instead of giving that money to the
local yeshiva to underwrite the cost of
people who can't afford tuition
that I meet people who tell me I wish I
could have more children but I can't
because I can't afford the tuition that
we've developed a society where it's
more important to spend lots of money on
shalakas
and at the same time encourage from
people not to have children because they
can't pay the tuition
and I'm supposed to say well the person
who wrote the article might be a man so
therefore I can't say anything about it
I will not be silenced when there's
something wrong when there is a problem
and I see it I will call it out as I see
it and that's what Reverend Bulman said
to me and and and I have heard speakers
over the years giving muser to the from
community
because it's important that someone say
what's right.
That somebody
listen to this story. It's a disturbing
story like the best stories are
[sighs] because you know how you get a
pearl, a little piece of sand gets
inside of an oyster and and irritates
it. So it releases secretes this stuff
to make a pearl. Yeah. Pearls of wisdom
are come when you irritate people.
Rabbi Foyer told me he was once in
this ro tells him a story.
He says, "You know, a Vic de Miller was
a young Israel rabbi, you know, of the
uh uh Young Israel Ocean Parkway. He was
at a meeting of young Israel rabbis."
Now, there was a time when the line
between modern Orthodox and conservative
was a little blurry. There were certain
characters in the modern orthodox world
who, you know, would have fit better
into the conservative movement. Anyway,
this guy was speaking at a young Israel
rabbis meeting and he was saying fear it
and the victim walked up and knocked him
out with one punch [laughter]
and foyer was of course surprised to
hear this story and and there's a lot of
questions to ask on this. One is h how
did Victor Miller know how to box? He
says the alt of Slovatka told him to go
out and learn boxing. He says because
when the boys would go down to swim by
the river the go would start up with
them. So he told you know Victor Miller
to learn boxing. So when he would go
down with them and when the guy would
start up he would knock them out and
they start picking on the Jewish kids.
Yeah. Anyway, as this fell is telling
the story, there was an old rv there and
he starts crying
and the rv looks him and says, "What
what what are you upset about?" You know
he says I was at that meeting and as a
Victor Miller was walking up he says to
me this is fra we have to stop it and I
didn't go
and the victim Miller did
now I don't know maybe that r was a
yosum
he's saying kira he's saying something's
wrong
says you deal with it
you don't just sit back and say well
[laughter]
no
as salanta says any rub who nobody wants
to run out of town is not a rub
but any rub who lets him get self get
run out of town is not a man
so I make no apologies
there's nothing I said and I want to
tell you it was name as sure as I didn't
that I didn't mention the names of the
magazines And I'm sure everybody can
figure it out for themselves. And I
don't care cuz they published it that I
didn't write this. I didn't make it up.
They put it in their publication because
they felt it's a great thing to
encourage the firm community
which let's be perfectly honest is
overwhelmed.
Everybody I talked to today is
overwhelmed. Can I know how we have big
families? There's a lot of financial uh
considerations. Both parents work. You
have to come back. You have to learn.
You have to dive in. You have to take
care of your kids. You have to help them
with their homework. You know, you have
to make a perm this that. And now I
should spend hours and hours on some
elaborate shakas. And because everybody
else does it, it puts that pressure on
you. I've told this story beforehand. My
kid was three years old
and he was going to gun and they said,
"Everyone has to come with a costume."
Okay. So, my wife put on a red uh
jogging suit on him, you know, little
one of those little kid jogging suits.
Thought it looked royal. Took an apron
tied around his neck. Kilo was uh Kilo's
cape. Made himself a little crown out of
aluminum foil and a little shvit out of
aluminum foil. put some makeup on him,
you know, and sent him his
and he's waiting for the tender to come
and pick him up and it pulls up with the
cast from a uh historical drama.
Everybody has these professional
costumes [laughter]
and my kid my kid's face collapses.
He's three years old.
I have to spend 50 bucks on a on a on a
professional costume.
So he comes back from gone
and my wife says, "So how was gone?" He
goes, "Oh, this one was this, this one
was that, this one was this." Goes, he
goes, "And and Yosi, he was a ver." He
goes, "You are a ver." He says, "No, he
had he had a real costume. I was just
nothing."
So, are we bad parents because we didn't
spend 50 bucks on a professional
costume? Or is everybody else nuts?
I'm going to call it out every time I
see it. And you can count on me. Those
of you who listen to me know I will
always tell you the truth. I will always
be honest with you. I will never pull my
punches because the person I'm
criticizing might be a yossum.
I will call out institutions and and and
organizations and and businesses and
anything else even though I might hurt
their panosa if what I think they're
doing is wrong. And I'm going to always
be the voice that says to Clay Israel,
this is wrong. Rabai
can't punch anybody out. Not that I
would, but I'll just hurt myself.
But
uh
I I I think it's important that we tell
the truth and and we criticize it and
and the people who walk around and say
it's loan horror that's exactly what Ra
Bulman was afraid was going to happen.
Okay,
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