Learn To Listen (Ep. 234)

hi this is D olowski and welcome to the rabbi olowski show whether you're watching with our friends Ator any time whever you watch or listen to your podcast as always happy to have you along for the experience and we'd like to thank our sponsor for this episode hi Rabbi I want to support your cause as I recall your classes with Nostalgia and warmth very good the ability to simplify the esoteric words that seem so beyond our everyday lives and somehow with humor and wit and sincerity made it relevant to the present day reality thank you so much I enjoyed your banter with your son schlomo all the best sippy Schiller thank you so much and uh it should be a for you and your family and all good things uh in your life and those for your loved ones in the of being Marb to theim yeah and uh as they say don't forget to like share and subscribe or subscribe like and share I don't know subscribe sh I don't whatever it is do those things it helps with the algorithm yeah okay uh so we've mentioned in the last few podcasts uh different ideas from the that the Torah is NI and uh you know there's uh 48 different things that a person needs to work on in order to be ma they have to develop certain character traits um two of them are that's like the second one and emth which means you got to learn how to listen learn to listen now uh people are so busy talking that they don't have a chance to listen and uh it's so important to people that they be heard I heard once from a psychologist that most of the work that I do would be unnecessary if people just had a good friend to listen to them but uh people don't know how to listen and when people do listen they very often hear what they want to hear yeah he's as blind as he can be just sees what he wants to see isn't he a bit like you and me yeah so people people have a tendency to walk away having heard what they wanted to hear and uh uh it's it's sad means you have to listen to hear what's being said I have to be honest you have to be honest and uh therefore there are people people who come in with preconceived notions and ideas and everything that they hear fits into their pre-acceptance and they said it's t says that wasn't the question I asked you tell me why it's to I know why it's why it's t it says so give me give me reasons why you should be T think outside of the box think outside of your comfort zone and uh as is so often the case people uh uh only like to hear what agrees with them yeah and uh and so they especially today when the news is so stratified so if you're conservative you listen to Fox News if you're a liberal then you listen to MSNBC if you're just a very confused person you listen to CNN but um both of you anyway but but the point is that people like an echo chamber they like to hear what uh what they are comfortable with they they want to hear the same ideas repeated back to them and when you tell them things that are different they're not really sure what to do with it uh so either they'll just completely ignore it you know I'll never forget when Trump was running in 2016 trying to get the Republican primary and no one gave him a chance and you know one of his techniques where he you know would come up with these nicknames for people that would stick so on Ted Cruz you know he came with the name lion Ted lion Ted and uh I remember seeing this clip where Ted Cruz was uh talking to a uh to a group of apparently Trump supporters and they just keep going lion Ted says tell me one thing I've lied about lion Ted no no I know I I I know the name tell me what I've lied tell me one thing I've Li about lion Ted that's it I don't I don't have to move outside of that you know because I'm comfortable with what I have already heard and I don't want to hear another point of view so uh there was a clip that I saw recently which was I found it tremendously frightening uh Glenn yunan who's the governor of Virginia came to a university to speak and a whole whole bunch of students walked out they walked out right in front of him you're so frightened to hear anybody else's ideas and universities today they have to provide safe spaces for kids that they shouldn't hear different ideas the idea of being able to hear the opposing point of view is too frightening it threatens me I don't want to hear anything that's outside of my comfort zone um and I had mentioned this beforehand that the first of the 48 things is talmud which means you have to be a person of learning you have to be curious you have to want to hear what you know to learn everything and then com which means listen to what the person is saying as opposed to you superimposing what you are already believe and already think on what the person is saying I I'm nature a curious person and so uh when I was in the process of becoming from I would speak to reform and to conservative I would speak to Christians I would speak to anyone I could who could speak about Islam or Buddhism or Hinduism I was curious let's see what they have to say and let's hold it up as much as I can to The Cold Light of reason and see how it fits in and I remember once I was with Usha who had been a Baptist Minister before he converted and he was asking him a bunch of cases on uh Christianity and he looked to me he says you don't get it you're looking for the Christian talud there's a verse over here in Mark that says like that but there's another verse in Luke that says like that a it's a stea how do we answer that because it doesn't work that way that's not how they that's not how they study religion you know and that's why uh in Catholicism What's called the infallibility Doctrine which means the pope is always right all right what if he's wrong can't be because he's always right but if I can prove he's wrong can't be because he's always right yeah whereas a uh many Russia Yeshiva have been giving a shear and somebody asked the Casher and slugs them up and they they just stop the shear and don't even that you have in gar yeah we we we he's wrong well we're not afraid we're not afraid to debate ideas I've lived in aritel now for over years and unfortunately so many people in Israel exist inside of a box they don't know how to think outside of their box and everybody will play the role that has been assigned to them Benji LaVine used to do this whole oneman act where he would play different characters in Israeli society and they were caricatures but unfortunately a lot of people are caricatures I'm sorry to say it I'll give you an example right Ario Chiron when he decided to pull out of Gaza and we see how well that worked right and throw whole bunch of Jews out of their houses he had been part of the settler community and he knew how they thought and they played their role to Perfection and he said we're going to come and we're going to throw you out of the house and they all came in and they said no it's going Civil War we're going to fight for our homes we're gonna do this we're do that and he said oh look at this they're threatening War this next thing and everybody fell right into the Trap because he knew what everybody was going to say before they said it cuz everybody fits into a predefined box and you know what they're going to say and you know what they're going to do it's it's it's very hard to get people to move outside of their comfort zone here so at the time uh somebody had asked me about it and I said I could stop the hitn not C tomorrow it just require people to move outside of their comfort zone he says what would you do I would call a press conference and have all the heads of yesha and they would say we moved here because the government asked us to We Built Homes we built businesses we fought Wars our people have been killed in terrorist attacks we have buried our dead because the government asked us to and now if the government is asking us to leave we will leave we will dismantle our homes we will up our dead we'll take apart our businesses and we'll leave just you're not going to throw us in the street we're loyal citizens we moved here because you asked us to we'll leave if you want us to just build us new communities that we can move to they wouldn't have had new communities for them to move to for 10 years because that's the way the government works till they would find a location and then you negotiate about the location and then yeah how how many houses you going to build and who's going to get them and how is it going to work and just but but come to the point of view where you're approaching the country as we're reasonable we're loyal citizens just you're not going to throw us on the street and everybody would agree to that but Chiron knew he wouldn't have to do that because all you have to do is make a statement and he knew everybody would say We'll Fight we'll this we'll that you know and uh you know uh there'll be somebody like screaming at the at the at the camera you know and yelling you know you know Sister screams and he knows exactly their caricature right curious Joel uh had their own um it was a basically cidic town and they had their own school district and the City of whichard was a part of wanted to do away with their school district okay make a demonstration scream yell that's not what they did the satma showed up at the public school and said we're coming to enroll our children since you want to close down ours we have 10,000 children where do we sign so they're like you know what maybe you guys should uh keep your own uh your own School District but you know think outside of the box be a little more creative yeah so the issue of drafting Yeshiva students has gone on for years and years and years and the only one who I ever heard say it was AA when Ela was in uh was in the knesset and uh he uh he was he had the Bells seat you know and uh he said no problem if they pass this law we'll all come all of us and enroll in the Army you know 40,000 uh and just like you take the secular you demand you take us all 40,000 of us put us in right now the Army doesn't want them everyone knows this is just a political thing during the uh Rabin Administration when Meritt was pushing very hard you know one of the generals a secular General he says do you want these guys in your army do you guys want them in your bunk and they'll be telling you you can't listen to this and you can't watch that he says if they force me to draft Yeshiva guys I'll build a big base medish and stick them in it because that's where they belong and all the secular students cheered the soldiers they don't want him either but that would require you to move outside of your comfort zone here's my little box I am a k and this is what I say you know I am a settler this is what I say I am leftwing this is what I say and everybody gets locked into their own place and they can't think outside of the box this is all by way of introduction because um I uh try as a rule to stay away from controversy if I can that doesn't mean I won't say things that are controversial but very often I don't even realize it so when I did the episode dealing with the concept of yut I knew I would get hate meal because there are certain people who cannot listen they don't know how to listen to any view that's different than their own they are locked in a perspective and that's what they say I was uh in the Boston sh 30 something years ago and was ym and they weren't saying Hollow and these two fellows there two American guys were saying could you believe it you know they get all this help from the government and they won't say h and that you know a terrible thing no appreciation no ACC so I said to them Why'd You Come to Daffin here on your matmut you know they don't say hello here it was convenient says that's how much your matmut means to you you go to a SCH that's more convenient for you knowing that they're not going to say Hollow when you so someone said shushing me so okay I stopped but you know we're locked we're locked into I say Hal you don't say Hal why don't you say Hal stop people on the street acost them and argue so I gave uh what I tried to be as evenhanded a presentation as I could about the different views and I got some responses and some of them uh well I a number of them were along these lines I always enjoyed your humor and my children love Torah life so I was eager to hear what you had to say in this controversial subject in any event I wanted to tell you that I appreciated your honest and informative presentation that's all I I I I'm just trying to present the views this is what the Dai think this is what mainstream K thinks this is what the uh more extreme elements of think this is what the secular think you know and uh and and just try to present them uh is somebody else wrote like this loved your a podcast last week on Israeli holidays in this time period you mentioned Rabbi Kito writes about these days I looked it up and did not find it in say yeah so I can't find my Hebrew one I found my English book of The Heritage Volume three he begins talking about it uh assuming you have this version on page 19 and throughout he has uh presents the different uh ideas many others see the fifth of er as possessing all the qualities of a Jewish National holiday which characterizes the other Jewish festivals prescribe of the tor in the sages and he goes on others considering these and other questions regard the fifth of the year as a sorrowful day they question your genuin of the new Independence as he is distracting from the longing and then it goes he keeps going back and forth arguments and counterarguments yeah on and on and uh uh what does it mean the government of non-believers yeah and therefore he goes on and on so he's presenting the points of view that's what I attempted to do whether I did it as well as I could if I don't know I don't know but that's that's what I said out to do now here's someone coming from the other side I got a couple of these I would have expected from you a person that made Aliah with all the challenges and difficulties that you would be a perfect Zionist but no just the opposite you are objective truthful and right to the point I'm really [Laughter] impressed um I I don't know what you mean by a Zionist a Zionism means that the Jewish people should be as the bord Declaration says to be able to establish a Homeland in the in in the land of Israel I am very in favor of that I think that's a great idea you know and uh and I think that's for sure true I was just discussing the halic issues of Hal the idea of moving Hal to a different day I was talking about you know uh the moment of s for the siren I I I was discussing the issues as much as I could I wasn't trying to you know Force One view forward uh as opposed to another I was trying as much as possible to be objective and that's why when I get these kind of things yeah it makes me wonder so one guy wrote uh King Hezekiah ended up not being the Messiah because he didn't say the hollow with a blessing therefore this generation must fix this wrong and do as R cook saying the hollow would the blessing on this day of the huge miracle and reestablishment of the Jewish nationhood as declared in all prophecy well of course of cook did not say Hal because the state was uh created after he died um and nobody is denying that when there was a miraculous salvation you should say Hal as I mentioned the M Yeshiva when the bomb fell on the Yeshiva and didn't explode they say Hal I'm not arguing about that the only argument is whether or not an actual Miracle took place on the fifth of ER or not and that like I say read the he goes through all the different things yeah here's another one like I say people love to be locked into their their usual mindset and just can't move out of it you don't mention that there a great rabbis that support saying Hal with or without a br out of H reasons yeah I did I said if you poim tell you to say Hal say Hal if you poim tell you don't say Hal don't say Hal go and follow your Rabbi I made that clear I don't know why he's saying this because I didn't mention names The Only Name I really spent time on was R salivic and that's because somebody lied to my face about it you know and uh and and I felt that it was necessary to clarify that issue because I had to go and look into it myself because I didn't know people just assume thatal said halan on yasm when in fact he was against it so that's the only reason I went into him um you present it as if all the H is against it no I'm not besides Hal after everything you were saying about Israel if you are so not appreciating and not happy with the existence of the state yikes yikes did I say anything even remotely uh that sounded like I don't want the state of Israel I've been living here for 35 years I left my family I left my culture I gave up everything to come and leave here for 35 years I remember R granowski from or de was collecting in Chicago and uh and and he says does yes say he says no we follow the Poston goes then I'm not going to give you any money because you're not Zionist now he was serving in hagga when he came and he says I live in Israel with my children and Grand children yeah I've been living there for decades I serve in the Army and you're a bigger Zionist than I am so after that he would always say the biggest zionists are in Chicago that was the expression he picked up if you are not appreciating and not happy with the existence of the state I am happy with the existence of the state I appreciated for the fact that we have a state you are wrong I never said any such thing listen listen why do you live leave there I guess means live there and enjoy its benefits and the soldiers who risk their life to protect you you mean like my son-in-law who's been serving in Gaza like those like my other son-in-law who was in the Army like them like me who volunteered for the Army when I came and they asked me to please leave I was 29 years old um uh morbidly obese in terrible health they asked me to please go home and I but I wanted to volunteer I said at least put me in the education department you know I have experience working with kids you bring youth over I could work with this and they were like just go away anyway um so you're wrong you just made this up because you're stuck in your in your mind frame and you can't think outside of it because you don't know how to listen listen why does the state pay money to yeshivas and give special rights to col guys if this is just a state like any other state why do they give it they give it because of government uh you know politics not because they believe in dyra not because they're supporting it guess what the United States of America also gives money to Yas they also give money to to people who are learning on Co yeah so like everything you should support it but don't make a mistake of thinking that the state of Israel has as a national priority people learning Torah as we can see right now they do not so please but you know it makes you feel comfortable uh here's one to give an answer as to why Yas is celebrated with Hal on a day other than the fifth of e you said the reason the entire country Alters or pushes off their celebrations to avert K shabas what greater reason for saying H could there be than that yikes are you telling me that if a bunch of people decide to keep shabas you say Hal well you have any source for that if the reason for saying Hal on he is because a miracle happened on he the fact that people decide not to be shabas is not a reason to say Hal unless you could bring me a source show me anywhere where it says everybody decides in keep shab you know so then you say Hal I've never seen that it's an emotional reason this is what I tried to say at the beginning when it comes to these topics people are emotional they put aide intellect they're not thinking right it's like like R risken said it's not a question of Hally you should say Hal or not it's question of how could you not say Hal the answer is because it's a issue Hal it's not should we should we have a you know drink a to the fact that the state of Israel exists you know that's not what we're talking about there's a din called H you can't just make it up as you go along this kind of undermines the perception that the state was founded with the sole goal of uprooting Torah judis R Weinbach was quoted here as saying it was not Rach it was the brisar RV please R mendal is no longer with us don't attribute something that the brisar RV said to rendel Weinbach listen listen you understand what I'm saying and does that does that prove anything of course not it's because the raban nut made the decision it wasn't made by the government doesn't prove anything the ninth of is pushed off some years and the full re Regiment of Manan are practice despite not being on the actual historical day that's correct the gamorra says that you can do that but nowhere can you find a gamorra that says if you can say Hal on a day that a miracle took place someplace else it doesn't make any sense what you're saying to allege that this opportunity for grouth growth during National Morning has no place for Jews life because it was not thought up by some great Rabbi or because Gentiles did it before we needed to is tonee to Torah ideals Torah ideals and the reality of the Jewish people today tonee let me talk to you about tonee you know there's a pusk in the Torah which ironically we often read around this time of year which is a you're not allowed to do things that go do even if you're doing it for a Jewish reason and the poim who opposed it opposed it for that reason it's a go B so you're telling me that all these Pim are toned deaf and don't understand the reality of the Jewish people today or perhaps you live in such a bubble that you can't think outside you can't listen you you're walking out as Governor yunan gets up to speak because you don't want to hear any view that's different than your own which I think is sad I've been hearing the ideas you express here for 30 years unlike wine these reason have grown stale instead of improving with age because you don't listen you don't try to understand yeah after and then understand you don't want to understand anything else cuz you're locked into your Paradigm and you don't even want to hear anything that's different than what you've already concluded but of course he continues right down the line but I thank Hashem every day that I live in a time of history in which the Jewish people have won our own country and our home that Hashem promised to our of us which we are free to keep the Torah I agree I think that's a great thing two that we have young men and women of all or even no levels of observant who are convicted enough I guess have enough conviction I hope they haven't been convicted to confront evil face to face so that we can live here yeah me too perhaps it should be the K focus of the Season ah so you see I have to I have to put everybody into a little schnit I remember when mayor lansi was the mayor of uh of Yim so it was yikon so they said you know are you going to you know recognize yaron he says of course I'm going to be at the te not in my role as a KES in the Army but in my role as the mayor of Yim but people are so locked in there was this unbelievable uh uh video with this guy's on a bus and this woman starts screaming at him says oh you you a bunch of parasite you don't have any jobs he says I'm a vice president in the high-tech you know business she said well you guys don't go to the Army he says I'm an officer you know yeah well you know you you all dress in black and white anything anything because you locked into this thing those those people look how they dress look what they do they yeah sad you're a sad person I don't know who wrote this but you're a sad person and and should try to have a drop of a is what you people like you tend to preach I hate those you know why because they don't have a Isel it's like Tom lur said I realize there are people in this world who do not love their fellow human beings and I hate people like that yeah perhaps this should be the K focus of the Season instead of wearing a sign on our arm explaining why we don't do this or hold that we're not doing that you are coming to us to attack us so we're we're explaining our position and we bring youim and we bring you H and you have nothing other than vital and hatred seething out of you it's a disgrace what you're doing to the Jewish people remember Hamas attacked because they saw that Jews were fighting with each other and they said if they're fighting with each other we can attack them he's talking about you that's who they're talking about you whoever you are I have yet had to hear a single ra write out what the modern state of Israel should look like all I hear is why it is all no good nope every single person will tell you exactly what it's supposed to look like it's a place that respects Judaism and is a Jewish country first and foremost anyway there's more here but uh but the point of the matter is when when I get these kind of things and it always happens because anytime this comes up the people are just locked into their Paradigm and they can't think outside of it and it's all the hatred go back and listen to my podcast I had only one message I wanted to explain the different views and have tolerance say okay if somebody says Hal they say Hal if someone doesn't say Hal they don't say Hal just like there are some people eat gab and people don't eat Gab right but you don't see people screaming at them well get certain communities but uh but for the most part so you what you care yeah but when it comes to this as that Rabbi said to me saying is more important than saying kishma twice a day yikes yikes and this kind of hatred why don't you bums go out and get a job why AR you go join the Army why AR you this why aren you that you know the intolerance and the hatred you don't you don't need to get metaphysical Kamas said so when I see this kind of hatred among Jews and Israel I can go out and attack and kill them so that my son-in-law is out there you know having to collect the dead that's the unit that he's in and every time he goes he goes uh radio silent we're all sitting here ding and hoping and praying that he he'll come out okay and the rest of the time we're s to Hill him for every single Jewish boy who's out there risking their lives you know but you you are so locked in your Paradigm you don't care about these people you don't do that you don't do that hateful you are hateful and so I knew I know when I bring this up there's going to be people like you out there filled with hatred but you know what because of the majority of good people good people you know the the people who say thank you for just trying to present it like Rabbi kov and did there are different points to be made there's something called and those things should be respected whether you agree with it or not whether your pisc has a different position or not it's it's so sad I read these things and you think it's some point I would become inured to to the kind of close-minded bigotry and hatred of commments of people that I get like this you know learn to love learn to be tolerant the same love and affection that you have for a non-religious Jew have for a Jew who follows a a different H ruling than you and it's just sad just sad and that's because you know we in in Israel everybody is locked into their caricature they're locked into their box and the more people can be open to be able to think in a new way I I'm pretty sure I said this idea beforehand but it it Bears repetition yeah K before he gives the Torah to Israel since we're in the times of we're preparing for M before he gives us the Torah he goes to the other nations and he says to isar you want to accept the Torah he says I don't know what does it say it says don't steal he says the Torah says yeah I'm a thief the Torah says I'm a thief he goes to ASA he says you want the Torah he says what does it say says don't kill he says the Torah says I'm a murderer it says I live by my sword it's a good gazak no the Torah says I'm a thief and the Torah says that I'm I'm a murderer so how could you expect me to accept a a law that says don't kill and don't steal when that's our the Torah says that about me the answer is you're right but if you accept the Torah all bets are off you can become anybody that you want and all of your limitations can be erased and you take on a whole new existence and that's why thear says that when the Torah was being given the nations of the world came to Bam and said the world is returning to another flood and he says noem owes it's just Hashem is giving the Torah to his people that's why did they think there was a flood coming to the world because just like the flood melts and erases everything that's what the tah does it erases everything that was there and gives you a brand new possib ability to become anything that you want so let's use this time to move outside of our comfort zone let's make an effort to understand instead of being understood let's make an effort to hear what somebody else thinks and not just make them hear what I think because the world would be a much better place if we spent that time trying to understand each other I'm pretty sure I mentioned this already and if not probably in past years yeah they weren't showing each other COV it was who said they weren't they weren't respecting each other so I remember hearing the shot I forgot where I heard it from I I'm sorry sure somebody will write in yeah the gamarra says not that he had 24,000 students he had 12,000 sets of kusas and each Kus was learning another way and nobody wanted to engage with the other set of Kes to say how did you understand that maybe you're right and I'm wrong let's have an exchange of ideas let's try to move Beyond ourselves everybody was happy with their own Paradigm so it's not that they disrespected but if I don't care enough about what you think to understand you and that's why whether it's a k position or a Dai position or a secular position or a Christian position or a Muslim position I want to understand what are you saying forgot who the story was told with but uh someone saw him in uh reading one of these anti-semitic newspapers you know before the war he says how could you read that he said I love reading this says why so when I read the Jewish newspapers we're experiencing anti-Semitism everybody's coming after us terrible things happening when I read this we control the world we have all the money we have all the banks I love reading the anti-semitic papers they make me feel good and uh and that's why uh you know Ben Shapiro who is a conservative commentator says always read liberal sites also get the other perspective don't just stay in an echo chamber listen to what everybody has to say objectively and the more that people hunker down and only hear what they're saying apparently some journalist who worked for CNN wrote this piece recently where she was shocked that she was at a dinner party of like intelligent people people who had positions Etc and after a few drinks some of them started pointing out that they actually believed in Trump and Maga cuz I was shocked that that they were keeping it secret all this time I never would have gone you're so locked in your own perspective you can't even listen to what anyone else is saying I know from Jews who voted for Joe Biden and continued to support him through everything I I couldn't understand it and I started asking them questions and when I do they get very very emotional they usually break off the conversation they can't they can't handle it they can't handle being asked questions being examined they just thank outside of your comfort zone be honest learn to listen and then maybe one day we will reach a state of affairs where the state of Israel will be the state where everybody can say Hal because everyone will recognize and the the the will be the way that it's supposed to be and that's my hope and prayer okay now we come to the question and answer part of our program although one could argue this whole thing was already a question answer but okay by Anonymous what does orlovski mean it's an interesting question my father claimed that Oraf means eagle and therefore it was a cohain name because Kesha represents Reus and kohanim are I don't know if it's true or not uh I looked it up once and it seems that there was a prince Oraf I don't know if it's the same one who's in dero mouse or not but uh there's a prince oloff who was apparently good to the Jews and a lot of Jews took on his name so if you find someone whose name is Ora orl orlo orski or or or wits these kind of things they're probably being named after Prince Oraf that's that's the best I got by Jonathan M should you offer guests to make their own kiddish first or just go ahead and make it for everyone what is the and it's better if the Bal Mak for everybody however um I know like that everybody makes their own KES in fact one chabas I had two Boston rebas at my house yeah what do I mean by that Boston never has any because everyone's a rebba in Boston everyone's a rebba right so uh these were so you know there was the Boston rebba and then there was the Boston rebba of Boston and the Boston rebba of of New York and uh and uh their children went on they became the Boston rebba of betar and the Boston of har the one from from bos mov to harno and then in harno and there's betar and there's and there's farak away and a whole bunch of Boston rebers everybody's a RAB anyway these were two um two ski of the uh of the Boston and they came in full you know they weren't reers yet but they were reers in training you know rits and uh and they they said is it okay if we make our own Kish I said sure you know I and I I said so you guys are from Boston so you guys are GNA be reers right that's how it works I'm like well yeah I said can I give you a kit now and I'll get it on the ground floor so when you come a rabit you can take care of it they didn't say yes or no anyway way so uh so that's that's the approach I take if I have people who want to make their own Kish I certainly give them uh that option and uh you know and if uh if not if it's a default then I make kidish for everyone what is something to think about during SP oh that's that's what we've been talking about these past weeks the me these 48 different things that are listed in the BR of mos that we're supposed to be this is the this is what we're supposed to be working on before we get to toyra is working on ourselves to become people who are Ro to be ma to and that's what we're supposed to be doing is developing our meidos during this time and uh working on them yeah so uh meidos are very important I remember I was teaching a class to a group of women about MOS and uh after we did the introduction so I said so which MOS do you want to work on the first one they said was savonus patience I said well you'll have to wait till we get to that okay can the RV please explain the concept of leaving over some food and not finishing everything on your plate as I understand it the concept is that you do not want to look like a glutton and a person who just gobbles up everything and and and starts to like lick the plate then it's not a good look if you eat and you leave over a little something so you're showing that I am not ravenous I am eating because there is I need to eat in order to be able to take care of my body or is but not that I am a glutton as the ramban points out and K it means do not be a man because you can become an alcoholic with kosher wine and you can be a glutton with kosher food and uh a person should try to show some self-restraint when it comes to their tyers okay by Jay what's the torah's view on a nju being allowed to get an abortion why is a Jew should we care if abortion is legal or not without getting into hil's abortion and obviously in this sense our view is different than the um than the uh U view that life begins at conception and there's never any reason for an abortion there might be certain extenda circumstance ances and that's something to go and speak to a worldclass posc about where it applies and where it doesn't but we don't believe that life begins at conception right like there are certain fundamental uh people do however at some point that fetus is considered alive and and therefore if you were to uh um kill the fetus it's not it's not a life as the in M tells us that you it but you're not allowed to end that life and uh that's that's clear in one of the sh is not to kill so if killing a Fus is killing then it applies to a non-jew just as much as to a Jew um you don't want to be in a society that allows murder so if at some point this thing is is called alive and that's why in 2020 the Democrats were trying to figure out who to put up against Donald Trump and during all the debates there wasn't one candidate who said I would say long late term abortions are wrong which means in the ninth month when everyone agrees this kid is alive yeah you can kill the baby nobody wanted to say no uh the former governor of Virginia said he was a doctor he would perform a an abortion after birth it's after the baby came out if the parents decide they didn't want it he would kill it that's that's outright murder that's that's Post delivery abortion I mean gosh what are we what are we talking about over here so yeah I don't I don't think that we as Jews want to be in a society that allows murder because it's bad for the entire Society what the rules and regulations are of course open for discussion but yes Jews should be concerned about the moral caliber of where they live Anonymous if the Kazan skips half of the words in kades am I allowed to answer aain M yes as long as you know the guy is a from guy and uh I don't know what this is I can't explain this I've seen this many times in America that people leave out the word elu when they make a I'm sure they believe in God you know and that God is elu but uh people slur their words they mix the words together you know and uh as long as you know that they're from person and that they're saying it they may have swallowed it they may have mumbled it they may have this but you can assume that it's correct and so if you know there's a from person even if you hear the end of the BR you're allowed to answer on me and that's it for this episode if you want to find out more about the show you can go to my website ri.com you can leave a comment you can sponsor an episode you can sponsor a question and answer you can sponsor par and five you can um uh download the uh the ringtone you could sign up for one of the online shurm um you can uh hold the pickles hold the 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