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Um
this is our Hanukkah show. I put on uh
the closest thing I have to a a tie. I
know there are novelty Hanukkah ties,
but I only have a novelty Pesach tie. I
never got a novelty Hanukkah tie. But
but it sort of looks like fire, I hope.
Anyway,
that's the idea. So we're getting ready
for Hanukkah and we've talked about it
in the past and um
I uh
I hope I don't repeat myself. I might
though cuz I have that way.
But I thought what a good way to start
by singing some Hanukkah songs. Now, at
last time I mentioned that I went to the
Hebrew Academy of Nassau County.
And we used to have a music class
with Seymour Silbermins
who was a uh
a cantor who used to teach
uh
and Hank used to teach music to the
kids.
And I still have his book
which I guess they gave out
um
by Seymour Silbermins with different
songs that they would sing.
I'm wrong. He didn't write this.
This is by uh Harry Coopersmith.
Anyway,
um
so uh so some of these I'm sure you
know.
Oh Hanukkah oh Hanukkah light the
menorah. Let's have a party. We'll all
dance the hora.
And while we are playing, the candles
are burning so low. One that we light
for each night of the might of the
Maccabees so long ago.
So uh this is this is a treasure, let me
tell you.
It's still good to have that.
And um
uh
I mean, everyone knows dreidel dreidel
dreidel, but I don't think that you know
all of the words.
I have a little dreidel. I made it out
of clay, and when it's dry and ready,
then dreidel I shall play. Oh, dreidel,
dreidel, dreidel, I made it out of clay,
and when it's dry and ready, then
dreidel I shall play. It has a lovely
body with legs so short and thin, and
when it gets all tired, it drops and
then I win. Chorus. My dreidel is always
playful. It loves to dance and spin. A
happy game of dreidel, come play and now
let's begin.
Uh, if that's not Judaism, I don't know
what is.
And I guess if you need a symbol
of Hanukkah, it is the dreidel.
Uh, could be a Hanukkiah. A Hanukkiah,
for those of you who are Americans, is
uh
is of course a menorah.
But uh because menorah in modern Hebrew
is a light bulb, so we need to
differentiate that between that and what
we light on Hanukkah, so they call it a
Hanukkiah.
And um
you know, comes with nine little holes
there.
There is the menorah, and then of course
there's the dreidel.
The biggest dreidel, you find it all
over the place. They have giant
inflatable dreidels that people hang up
as decorations. They have long strings
of dreidels. They have little dreidel
um
uh
um cutouts, I guess, that you would drop
on the table at a Hanukkah mesiba as a
celebration. They have the good
old-fashioned little plastic dreidels.
They have wooden dreidels. They have
giant dreidels. Now they have electric
dreidels that spin and play music as
they spin around. S'vivon sov sov sov
Hanukkah hag same Hanukkah hag same hag.
And they light up and just really
amazing things, you know. And of course
there are the clever people who know how
to spin a dreidel upside down and have a
go on its neck.
And that's certainly dramatic, but
um but the concept
of the dreidel um
for me uh had a specific uh meaning
because I was
a kid in the Hebrew Academy of Nassau
County
and when I was in elementary school, so
we had class during Hanukkah. We didn't
have off for Hanukkah.
Um
so they would uh the rabbi would give us
all these little plastic dreidels.
And
we would play with the dreidel, you
know. I don't remember if they gave us
pennies or we had to bring our own
pennies and
we would all play dreidel.
And uh
and it was just everything a kid could
ask for. It was a free toy
and we didn't have to have class and
during class we were allowed to play and
it was just you really couldn't ask for
more than that, you know.
Um
we didn't get any treats cuz you have to
remember
almost nothing had the OU back then.
If you had a birthday party in in
school, you couldn't bring anything. You
went to the office and bought a box of
Educator Ice Box cookies and you went
around the room and gave each kid one of
these like chocolate graham crackers.
They were hard and tasteless. It was
terrible, but but it was Judaism.
So we didn't get any Educator Ice Box
cookies, but we did get to play with the
dreidel. It was a lot of fun.
And everyone knows the rules. And gimel,
you get everything.
Nun, you get half.
I I'm sorry. Hey, you get half.
Nun, you get nothing.
And shin, you have to put into the pot.
So,
we could guess gimel was for guddle cuz
you got all everything, you know. Hey
was for half.
Nun was for nothing cuz nun spells
nothing, you know. We couldn't figure
out quite the way the shin was there,
but
anyway, this went on for years until one
time,
maybe I was in fourth grade,
uh the rebbe uh gave us our little
dreidels.
And I raised my hand and I said, "Rebbe,
mine's defective. There's no shin on
it."
And he says, "Well, this is a new and
improved dreidel." You know what I'm
saying? It comes from Eretz Yisrael.
And
because the nun gimel shin
uh
uh hey shin stands for Nes Gadol Hayah
Sham,
there was a great miracle that happened
there,
meaning in Eretz Yisrael,
now we write Nes Gadol Hayah Po, a great
miracle happened here.
I said, "That's ridiculous. I want my
own dreidel back. What what what what
what why are we messing with tradition?"
He says, "No, it makes sense
cuz you never knew what to do with the
shin, but you get to pay because you now
you have to pay, you see?
So, the hey is half and nun is none,
you know, and uh and now pay, you pay.
So, look how how much better that works
out."
Anyway, I didn't fall for it.
And it bothered me. It bothers me to
this day.
It's not easy, but you can still find
good old-fashioned dreidels with a hey
on it.
I buy those and I give those to my
grandchildren. I'm not going to give
them these pay things.
Because although I could not formulate
this argument when I was in fourth
grade,
but I do understand that
um
uh
Hanukkah took place in Eretz
So, if they had dreidels,
then it already said nun gimel shin hey.
If there's a source
for I'm saying an old source, not a
modern source,
that the nun gimel shin hey stands for
nes gadol haya sham, I haven't found it.
If there is a classic source that says
we write these letters on it. I know
there's classic sources that say the
four letters represent the four gullius.
I know
um
that the Bnei Yissachar says that they
actually spell out the word goshna,
which is a whole discussion itself why,
but uh
I don't know why you feel like you had
to change the shin into a pei
just to make things politically correct.
In my mind, these things never have
legs. They don't stay.
When in the 1970s,
so the
movement to free Soviet Jewry,
um I think we worked with SSJ,
Student Struggle for Soviet Jewry,
and we would sometimes take busloads of
hang kids
to the Russian Consulate uh in Long
Island,
and we would demonstrate outside, and we
would chant. So, it was the 1970s. I
still remember the chant. 2 4 6 8, open
up the iron gate.
2 4 6 8, let my people emigrate.
What do we want? Freedom! When do we
want it? Now!
Svoboda! It's one of the only uh Russian
words I know. It means freedom.
Um I don't know if the
people who worked in the Russian
consulate in Long Island were deeply
moved by this and sent the memo, "We
must release the Jewish Russians.
They're demonstrating outside my window
and spring screaming 2468,
let my people immigrate. We must let
them go."
But, we did things.
Anyway, but there was one thing that I
thought was
even I
as a teenager thought was ridiculous.
And that is they said you should add a
fourth matzah at your seder for Soviet
Jewry, the matzah of hope.
And even I understood
that this is so totally ridiculous.
There's not enough references to freedom
in the seder?
You don't have the words let my people
go already? You don't have the whole
thing about the Jews being slaves and
becoming free and getting out? Did you
have to add something else to fit it in?
Falls by the wayside.
Um,
when I talked about uh once upon a time
uh the modern
um Israeli holidays of Yom HaZikaron and
you know, Yom HaShoah and
Yom Ha'atzmaut and I talked about them.
Um,
the idea of the
um
moment of silence
on Yom HaZikaron, I said, "What What
exactly do you accomplish with that?"
You know, we Jews don't usually
celebrate by being quiet. We celebrate
by saying Tehillim or we commemorate by
saying Tehillim or or saying something
or reaching out and that's by standing
silent. That's a goyishe custom, you
know?
And I asked at the same time, why do you
make a special Misheberach for
the IDF?
Don't we already have it in a chain
though?
And um
And the rub that I was speaking to,
who's a very knowledgeable person, he
said,
Yeah, it doesn't have any meaning
anymore.
When you do something so often, it loses
meaning. You have to make something new.
I said, I don't know. A chain has been
around for a very, very long time. And
if it's lost meaning, maybe you should
figure out how to reinvigorate it
instead of coming up with something new.
Because
things that come on that don't have
actual significance
ends up falling by the wayside.
In 1992,
I believe it was,
Yitzhak Rabin was elected prime
minister.
And he gave them Ministry of Education,
Misrad HaChinuch, to Meretz. Meretz is
the left-wing anti-religious party.
And before Yom HaShoah, which was a day
set aside to commemorate the Holocaust,
he says, I think we make a mistake
remembering the Holocaust
as opposed to every other
um suffering of people.
Therefore, I think we need to expand the
Yom HaShoah
to include the Armenian Holocaust
and the slavery of the American blacks.
And you know, instead of listing a whole
bunch of other,
you know, tragedies of other people.
And I thought to myself, how ironic.
One of the people from the parties that
would push as hard as they can to move
away from traditional religion and
create new religious significance
already admits
after a number of decades has no meaning
anymore.
And that's always a problem when it
comes to creating something.
How do you get it to be able to stand?
And that's why when it came to Hanukkah,
the Gemara says something very
interesting.
It tells the whole story of Hanukkah, my
Hanukkah,
and then it says
and the next year they established
um Hanukkah.
So, what's the next year?
You just won this unbelievable victory.
You liberated the Beit Hamikdash. You
lit the menorah and it burned for eight
days.
Why do you wait till next year for?
And the answer is
definitely miracles.
But is it the type of miracle
that has a significance that it should
be celebrated for all times? Or is it
like
the Purim they had in Prague?
There was a number of cities in Europe
where they had a particular salvation
and they made their own particular
Purim. None of those are celebrated
anymore.
At the time, it was recognized as a
miracle, but it's not something that is
going to stand the test of time.
When we celebrate something, it's
because it has cosmic consequences.
They waited till the next year on the
25th of Kislev to see if they could feel
the koach
that was manifested by the nes that took
place or if that was a one-time event.
Cuz there are one-time events that don't
represent a truth.
E.T. making the bicycle to fly, which
was the sign of the Amblin Corporation,
lahavdil obviously.
So, it's not that bicycles fly. He made
it fly this one time, but that doesn't
that doesn't become a miracle.
Lahavdil,
when
Yehoshua
um was bringing the people across the
Yardain,
the Jordan River, so the Kohanim walked
in with their feet to the river, and it
stopped flowing.
Didn't split in half cuz that wouldn't
really help with a It just kept going up
into the air.
Had to be a pretty frightening thing to
see cuz it just kept flowing up.
And after everybody went across, then
the river went back.
And now the Kohanim are on the wrong
side of the river.
So, the Aron picked them up and flew
them across.
So,
the Aron doesn't necessarily fly.
It was a one-time miracle.
It's not something that we commemorate.
So, um
uh
So, there are things that take place
that
I I I told this idea over from Ever
Left. I've told it more than once, so
you'll you'll indulge me.
It says that if Reuven knew that the
Torah had written that he saved Yosef,
he would have carried him back on his
shoulders.
If Aaron knew that when he went to greet
Moshe, it said sameach belibo, he would
have come with a band.
If
Boaz knew that it would have been
written in the Torah
that he gave a seudah to Rus, he would
have given her a seudah like
Melech.
So, what does this mean?
They didn't know?
They didn't know? If I knew it was
going, I would have done it better?
I didn't know this was being recorded.
I I I've told the story, you know, I was
at a bar mitzvah at the kaisel.
I'm just about to say krias shma and the
video guy comes right on me.
I said a krias shma like a Jew
throughout history said it before he
died.
I took away my hand, the camera man had
moved on.
And my first thought was wasted a
perfectly good shma.
You know, if you know you're playing for
the camera, you know. I said so is that
what we were saying over here?
That Ruvein and
and uh and Boaz and Aaron didn't know
that the camera was running, the video
was on.
You know.
Um
I I don't usually do well on panels. I'm
just not very good. I don't play well
with others. It's It's hard for me.
And uh
and um
there was a I was on a panel
where each one of us was speaking. It
wasn't so much a panel as much it was
three speakers.
I was speaking and someone snapped a
picture of me. I was up on the dais
pouring myself a cup of water and I
looked like this.
They gave me the picture.
I used it later in an ad cuz someone
asked me to give a share on from
burnout. And I said, "Yeah, here's the
picture."
I didn't know that the camera was on.
And you always hear this, you know, you
get caught on a hot mic. You know, and
uh
to be able to to be able to keep up the
appearance all the time now that we live
where there's always cameras and there's
always things recording, there's always
things going on.
Very difficult.
Very difficult. So that's what it was.
Ruvein didn't know the camera was
running, yeah.
True enough, gave three separate
terutsam to this, but I still don't know
which one that made a deep impression. I
mean, I don't want to say which is right
which is wrong. It's not for me
to second-guess
someone where
they left.
But
I said one one I really appreciate.
It says that
um
Abraham
was
when Yitzchak was born.
He was 175 when he died, which means
Yitzchak was 75
I would guess during those 75 years
Abraham and Yitzchak had many
conversations.
The Torah records one.
Where's the sheep? You are the sheep.
Nothing else was significant enough to
be recorded in the Torah cuz what's
written in the Torah was of tremendous
significance.
Boaz didn't think he was doing anything
of particular significance.
He was giving a meal to a poor girl who
was
related to him.
Yeah.
Didn't think anything of it.
He didn't think that would be
significant enough that it would be
written in
a megillah.
Reuben went to save his brother.
Why? Cuz he felt he was the oldest and
he was going to be held responsible and
he wanted to
you know
His intentions were not necessarily
pure, but if he knew that what he was
doing was of such significance that the
Torah would record it.
He didn't realize it was significant.
Aaron went to save his brother. He had
love in his heart cuz that's how he was.
He told him
to shave his head and get him a haircut.
It's Moshe and Aaron.
Didn't think anything of it that I love
my brother. Of course I do.
Would he have suspected that this was
significant enough that it was going to
get recorded in the Torah?
Well, then if Hashem thinks this is so
kosher, I would have done it better.
Every one of us goes through things in
our day
where we do things
we don't appreciate the significance.
But we do things that have cosmic
consequences. We just don't know it.
There's a story I may have told it
recently, I don't remember, but
Rabbi Wine went uh was in Detroit and he
met with the editor of I think it's the
Detroit Free Press, I think. I forgot
what the name of the magazine of the
newspaper was.
But it was consistently
pro-Israel when other people were not
pro-Israel.
And he went to meet with the editor to
thank him on behalf of the Jewish
people.
And the editor said to him
I will always
support Israel and the Jewish people.
And he says, "Why is that?"
He said, "Oh, I'll tell you a story."
He says, "There was a Jewish family
that had this
uh
non-Jewish teenager who was working for
them
as a maid.
Her family was poor.
And uh the mother basically sent her out
to find a job.
And this family took her in
took nice care of her.
They went away
before
uh the Xmas holiday.
And she suddenly realizes, "Oh my
goodness, these poor people, they're
going to come back
Xmas Eve.
They don't have any decorations."
So she went out and borrowed money
and bought them a tree
and decorated it.
And bought them a big wreath
and bought lights and hung them around
the house.
And she was so proud of herself.
Well, December 24th
this Jewish couple comes home.
They drove past the house three times
cuz they didn't realize it was their
house.
And they come in and they say, "What's
this?"
And she's beaming and she says,
"You know, I realized you wouldn't have
a chance to have decorations, so I
bought decorations and decorated the
house for you."
And he says, "This is the nicest thing
that anyone has ever done for us.
But you know, we're Jewish. We don't
celebrate Christmas."
She don't? She says, "No.
But first of all, I'm going to pay you
for the decorations.
I'm going to pay you a bonus for putting
them up and decorating them.
And then I want you to take them all
down. We're going to put them in the car
and we're going to drive them to your
mother and we're going to decorate your
mother's house."
He says, "This little girl was so moved
that they didn't yell at her. They
didn't chastise her. Just the opposite.
They gave her a bonus and they and they
gave her all the decorations, you know."
He says, "That woman was my mother."
And I think of that Jewish family when I
when I look at what we're going to
publish in this paper.
This Jewish family, when they were
taking care of this little,
you know,
Christian girl, never
never imagined
that what they were doing was going to
have cosmic consequences. An entire town
was going to read their newspaper and it
was going to give a positive slant
because of this kindness.
You don't know.
You don't know what you do and the
significance that it can have.
So,
there have been many miracles throughout
Jewish history.
The Maharsha says, "A little oil burning
for a long time, big deal. That happens
to me every night."
I light the oil is enough to burn for an
hour, burns the whole night. I mean,
that happens to me all the time.
I mean, Hanina ben Dosa
says uh
you know, they said we don't have any
oil in the house to light for the
for the candles.
And he says to use vinegar.
He says vinegar doesn't burn.
He says the same God who said oil can
burn will say vinegar can burn.
And they burnt.
There's no holiday
set up for Hanukkah and Indusa's
miracle.
A lot of you find a lot of miracles in
the Gamara.
Tremendous amount of them, but none of
them turn into holidays.
Cuz they don't represent a force in the
universe of a absolute truth that's
being revealed.
Um
the uh and once that happened and the
next year came around and they sensed
it. I don't know how they sensed it. But
they sensed it.
So then they uh
they
turn around and uh
then they make Hanukkah. And then they
find all the references.
The 25th word in the Torah is or. You
know, they start to find all kinds of
Hanukkah reference. They realized that
they finished building the Mishkan in
the Midbar on the 25th of Kislev.
So it was a day that was meant for
dedication. It's just Hashem said to
wait till Nissan.
And so
all these things fell into place.
Whereas I don't know anyone who uses a
fourth matzah
for the
matzah of hope for Soviet Jewry.
That's gone.
I don't know anybody who um
uh I mean, you see that the Minister of
Education 1992 already said that Yom Yom
Hashoah is irrelevant.
It's It's a problem when you try to
create things and give them meaning
and to be to to to build them up into
something that does not represent an
absolute truth.
So, there was a power to Hanukkah.
Right? It's it's something that is
innate.
So, I don't understand why they felt
like they had to change the dreidel from
a shin to a pay.
The dreidel had been there for a very
long time.
And everybody was very fine with it.
And like I say, the miracle took place
in show. And apparently during the story
they had dreidels. That's the way the
story goes.
And yet
other than the fact that we play with
dreidels,
I can't think of any significance to
dreidels.
You don't find it in the davening.
Uh
you don't find
Hilchos dreidel.
How long you have to play for, what
amount of coins you have to start with,
you know, it's a
We have we have Hilchos on just about
everything.
There was this Jewish comedian who said,
"You see, it's a good thing that Jews
don't have Christmas cuz can you imagine
all the Hilchos that'll be associated
with a Christmas tree, how high it has
to be, how far from the door you have to
set it up, what decorations you can use,
how many decorations, where it goes?"
And he just goes on and on and on, you
know, what hours they have to be lit
for, when you turn them off, when you
turn them on. And he just goes yeah, and
he just keeps rattling off like all of
these make-believe Hilchos of Christmas,
you know.
Cuz that's where we go. I don't know any
Hilchos dreidel.
Haven't found it anywhere.
And yet it's
it's ubiquitous.
Which is a word that most people have no
idea what it means. It means it's all
over the place. I just pointed out how
they have dreidel cookies and they they
give out dreidels and they play dreidels
and they and they have dreidel
decorations and all this kind of stuff.
And yet where do you find it having any
significance whatsoever.
These four letters that are written on
the dreidel, which again
people like to say is Nes Gadol Hayah
Sham, but there's no particular source
for that the dreidel to find. So, what's
Why is this so important? Now, the Benei
Yissachar says that although there is no
Hilkhot Dreidel
just as there's no Hilkhot Grager, but
there should be.
You know,
gragers should be the gragers I had when
I was growing up, which are those little
party gragers grager grager
You know, when you go to shul and you
find someone with a 6-ft wooden GRAGER
GOING GRAGER GRAGER GRAGER.
THAT PERSON should be removed.
He should not be allowed.
You know, along with the cap guns.
You know, I dove in the shul, you know,
and uh
it was uh pretty close quarters when I
was in these giant places and these kids
are shooting off the cap guns and after
a while you're dying from the smoke from
the explosion with the
you know, the the balcony
I had to I had to move to get away from
it and you close the door cuz you
couldn't breathe when he was leaning,
you know.
And that's besides the people with the
air horns, you know, or people coming
with pots and spoons and bang on them
and it's like, you know.
Yeah, there should be Hilkhot Grager,
but
so I think it's the Benei Yissachar
points out that
what's the difference between the grager
and the dreidel?
On the dreidel you spin it from the top
and the grager you hold it from the
bottom.
Because
uh Hanukkah was an obvious
divine intervention.
There was no way the Hasmoneans could
have possibly defeated the Greek army.
Um
in
uh
the 15 decisive battles of world history
from Marathon to Waterloo.
That's the sub subtitle.
Um written by Sir Edward Creasy in the
1850s.
He describes uh
the battle between Alexander the Great
and Darius the Persian.
And he says Alexander's entire army
wasn't as big as Darius's right wing.
But they won.
Cuz that's how powerful a fighting force
they were.
And here you have the
Maccabee brothers.
You know?
And they're going to go and fight.
And
they were few against many.
And they were weak against strong.
And they were
These
were people sitting in the base medrish.
That doesn't That doesn't give you any
particular fighting skills.
No.
It was an open miracle. The hand was on
the top.
Whereas in Purim, as you all know, the
megillah doesn't have Hashem's name in
it.
Because everything is underneath.
It can look like political intrigue. So
the hand in the grager goes underneath
cuz the hand of Hashem is underneath.
He's hidden. Hester Panim.
Right? Whereas by Hanukkah, it was like
you can't miss this.
You can't miss that this is a miracle.
And then when you light the menorah and
it burns for eight days, like, yeah,
that's a wow.
So uh
So okay. Significance to the to the
dreidel in that sense.
But like I say, it's not really included
in anything. Kids might play with it,
but
you know, there is there it's brought
down that there's a mitzvah to make
noise when Haman is mentioned.
You know? Is to bang on the table or
stamp your feet
or something like that to be able to to
drown out his name.
Yemach shmo u'zichro.
But I I can't find any halachic
implications of dreidels.
So, Reb Yitzchak Isaac Sher gives an
interesting insight
into why we don't mention the dreidels.
Cuz when you read Al Hanisim, it's
deceptive.
It sounds like
um the Greeks came
and they defiled the Beit Hamikdash.
And then the Hashmonaim rose up and
fought fought against them and had a
victory and we rededicated the Beit
Hamikdash.
This
the dreidel's missing from the story.
Cuz where's the dreidel?
The Chazal say that when the Greeks took
over,
the Jews said, "We can't possibly defeat
the Greeks.
So, if we want any remnant, we're going
to run up into the mountains and hide."
And we'll learn Torah up there.
And if they heard any of the guards
coming,
they closed their scrolls
They didn't have any books back then.
Closed their scrolls.
And took out the dreidel.
And pretended that they were running a
illegal casino up in the mountains and
okay.
There's been a big fight in the
Catskills to bring in gambling. So, I
guess they started up in the mountains
back back then earlier. And they were
like, "Okay, fine." And then when they
left, they would put away their dreidels
and take out their megillahs.
Remember it was in Chofetz Chaim where
he did said
The irony is today
you find during Seder the boys are
playing dreidels. And then the rabbi
comes along, he hides they hide it and
pull out their sefarim.
It makes you feel like who won? But
but yeah, it's ironic. So, they stayed
up there for 3 years.
3 years they stayed up there and they
played dreidel.
There's no fault.
Right?
Um
If Gusman
survived the Holocaust
um
this uh
non-Jewish farmer uh had built a little
room under his pig pen.
That's where he he spent the war. That's
where he was hiding out.
As No Tiner on Wulber and others who
managed to escape to Switzerland
or to any other neutral country. Hey,
why aren't you guys out there fighting?
You know,
can't they fight the Germans?
People who ran away and hid
and became survivors, you know.
What do you What do you expect them to
do?
Go out and fight the Nazis? Even the
partisans would kill them. They kill the
Jews and invite the Jews in to join
them, you know.
It was It was terrible.
So, survive.
That was it. You read stories of people
survived the Holocaust. That's what they
say.
Survive.
Just try to lay long last long enough
until liberation.
No shame in that.
Wait till the Americans get here. Wait
till till um the the Nazis are defeated.
Just hold on until then. That's what
they were doing.
They knew Hashem would not forgive
forget us.
So, eventually Antiochus would die.
They would be defeated by another power.
Somebody else would take over.
Eventually, this will pass.
You know.
We Jews have learned to live our lives
this way.
I'll never forget when Yitzhak Shamir
was on Meet the Press when he was Prime
Minister. And it was during the They
were pushing the Madrid Accords and to
uh get people to you know, uh sign this
agreement and give this away, etc. And
he kept explaining why it wouldn't work.
The Arabs have not changed their
position. They still hate the Jews. They
teach their children to hate the Jews.
There's no There's no basis for
um
the freedom. And And the interviewer
kept saying, "Yeah, but what about this?
What about that? What about this?" And
each thing Shamir showed why it wouldn't
work.
And finally, he said, "So, what are you
going to do?"
And he said, "We Jews are very patient
people.
We'll wait till something changes in the
Arabs." But
when they started the Oslo Accords, the
attitude was better something than
nothing.
I don't believe that history has borne
that out to be true.
Just because you can't think of a good
option doesn't make a bad option a good
option.
Sometimes, you wait.
And so, the Jews were hiding up the
mountains. They knew they couldn't
defeat the Greeks.
And uh
and they would just wait up there.
Then no fault.
If they waited up there
until
uh
Kadosh Baruchu made some sort of
political intrigue to save them.
This much is clear. We would never have
the holiday of Hanukkah.
Eventually, courage would come
and grant them uh
you know, uh
uh rights of freedom, allow them to
rebuild the Beis Hamikdash. Eventually,
the tide would change.
It wouldn't be wouldn't be a Hanukkah.
Hanukkah came about because a small
group of fanatics said,
"We're going to fight the Greeks,
even though we know we don't stand a
chance.
But at least let the world see that
there are still Jews willing to die for
what they believe in."
And there was a precedent.
Precedent was Hananiah, Mishael, and
Azariah.
Cuz three people were chosen by each
nation
to bow down to this giant statue.
And Hananiah and Mishael and Azariah
asked what should we do and their advice
they were given was run away and hide
until this is over.
Exactly what the
people did
during the time of the Greeks in time of
Antiochus.
And they said, "Can we go and refuse to
bow down and be thrown into the
furnace?"
Can we do that?
And they said, "You're allowed to.
It's not suicide.
But uh
but uh
it says the kashrut newsletter likes to
say not advised.
So they went and they were thrown into
the furnace and they miraculously
survived.
To make a kiddush Hashem.
Hananiah and Mishael said, "We're not
expecting a miracle. We're going to go
out, we're going to fight.
And we're probably going to get killed.
But we're going to show people there are
still Jews willing to die for what they
believe in.
I heard this story many years ago. I
don't know if it's true.
Um but I heard it repeated a number of
times.
The Baal Shem Tov asked the Rebbe who he
was going to spend all of his life with.
And he sends him to a house of this guy
and he looks through the window and he
sees this enormously fat person
surrounded with food and he just keeps
eating and eating.
And he only takes a break to go to
sleep, buy more food,
and just keeps eating and getting
larger and larger.
So the Baal Shem Tov of course can't
figure this out.
And he says to the guy,
"Why why do you do this?"
He said,
"Because when I was a little boy
I was
traveling with my father
and this told
told my father,
'Jew, kiss the cross."
And he said, "No, I'm not going to do
that."
And they tied my father to a tree.
And they said, "Listen, Jew,
kiss the cross." And he said, "No."
And they brought twigs and and straw,
and they set it up all around the tree.
And they said, "Jew, Jew, this is your
last chance. If not, we're going to burn
you alive."
It was uh it was a I I I think it was a
stick. I don't think it was a tree. I
think it was a stick uh
stick.
And he says, "I'm not going to do it."
And they burned him alive.
And they left me alone.
And I looked down there
at this tiny little pile of ashes that
used to be my father.
And I said, "When they burn me, there's
going to be a big pile of ashes. I want
everyone to know that a Jew was burned
here because he refused to kiss the
cross."
His whole life he was dedicated to one
thing, to die as Kiddush Hashem.
And so they go off
with this in mind
to be able to fight
not expecting to win.
And they won victory after victory after
victory until they finally got to the
base of Migdash and rededicated it.
The dreidel reminds us
of the people
who are hiding up in the mountains.
And that's a toy.
That's to play with.
But that's not Hanukkah.
Hanukkah is the menorah, or the
hanukkiah, that we light that reminds us
of tremendous nays.
We don't need a sukkah unless it's there
la hoda'ah u'l'halel l'cha Kadosh Baruch
Hu
to sing their praises.
We understand that Hanukkah is here not
because of the dreidel, in spite of the
dreidel.
The Jews who stayed up in the mountains
basically are are
are not on the stage of Jewish history.
It's the people who are willing to stand
up and do something.
And the world's made up of people
who sit back and wait
and those who go out and do something.
On many occasions I
would speak
and uh
I am a bit of a social critic.
And I point out different problems and
things.
At the end, people come up to me,
usually mothers
and they say, "Well, why is this and why
is that and why doesn't it Why doesn't
somebody do something?"
I said, "I am."
If I have to save the world by myself, I
will.
If you want to help me, there'll be two
of us.
But I'm not going to give up.
I'm going to keep fighting to make the
world a better place.
Katon shiktanim ani.
I'm nobody.
Poor dumb baal teshuvah kid with
learning disabilities, you know what I
mean? But I'm going to keep working.
Uh if I have to fix the whole world up
by myself, then by goodness, I will.
Not going to sit back and wait for
somebody else and point to the finger
and say, "Why doesn't somebody do
something?"
When I go to the mikvah
and uh men who go to the mikvah will
appreciate the scene. Women have
absolutely no idea. You know, one goes
to the mikvah, she gets her own little
private room and then when she's ready,
she and they'll knock on the door. She
gets the mikvah to herself, so one
thing. Men, it's a communal bonding
process.
You know, if you haven't seen dozens or
hundreds of naked men walking around,
showering, going to the mikvah, coming
back,
you know, it's uh
Let's just say, you know how a little
kid has those uh nightmares where they
come to school and they're in their
underwear?
I don't have those nightmares anymore.
That's already good.
I was in the shower and this guy comes
over to me and says, "You know, you
never gave me the money for the shalach
manos for Moshe Shapiro." Oh, we sent
him a nice shalach manos.
So, I said, "I've said this before, but
not with as much kavana. I have nothing
on me."
You have me at a disadvantage, sir.
I remember after I had my uh
open heart surgery, I met with the uh
with the surgeon and he told me, you
know, there's still this big gash in
your chest. It's going to take a long
time for it to close.
So, uh you know, don't take a bath and
don't go swimming and don't go to the
mikvah.
So, uh
So, I said, "Can I go if I don't go in
the water?"
He says, "Uh I guess so. Why?" I said,
"No, just for the experience, you know.
You pick up all the latest news, you
know. They sell stuff on the outside
there, you know." I always thought it
was ironic that they sell dips at the
mikvah.
Cuz like I think that's like double
dipping, you know what I'm saying? But
anyway, but uh you know,
there's this uh
there's this uh tremendous experience
that takes place,
you know.
Anyway,
when I'm at the mikvah and if it's a
crowded, I usually try to go early.
Somebody told me once, "If you go to the
mikvah early, it's a skula."
I said, "What's the skula?" For clean
water, you know. So, I like to go early
when the water is still um
translucent,
if not actually transparent, but at
least translucent, you know.
And but if you come towards the end,
it's downright murky.
So, um
uh so, I uh
but when I go there when it's crowded,
you know?
So, I grab the squeegee and I squeegee
up
as much of the floor as I can. I I'm
working around people, so I can't, you
know, tell everybody, you know, sit down
and pick up your feet so I can squeegee.
But whatever I can, I squeegee around
because the place is
so wet, so filthy. I'm afraid someone's
going to trip and get dirty and stuff.
Um
I I go to the Vision's mikvah and
the drains all drain in.
And uh sometimes the drain gets clogged.
It's not hard to figure out because you
see the channels are all overflowing.
So, when that happens, I go There's a
tile that you lift up and then you pull
up this enormous basket.
And it's filled with hair
and little plastic bags because people
sometimes bring their soap or their
shampoo in a little plastic bag and then
leave it and it falls in and goes down
into the drain, you know? Sometimes you
can find an actual like empty shampoo
bottle, etc. And I take it over to the
garbage. I empty it out, you know?
It's filthy and it's disgusting and it's
yucky, but
and then I put it back in there. Water
starts to flow.
And every now and then someone will say
to me, "That's so nice of you."
Kol hakavod.
And what I don't say is,
"How come nobody else did that?"
You know, I've never seen anybody else
clean it out.
You know, now I'm not there all the
time, obviously, but
you know, uh I've I've seen it
overflowing and I find that I'm the one
who does it.
Um
I've seen on rare occasion somebody else
pick up the squeegee stick and uh and
squeegee up the floor, but you don't
find it too often.
So uh
so there are people who look at a
situation
and say, "I can do something."
And as I always say, "Just because you
can't do
everything doesn't mean you can't do
anything."
You don't have to build uh I'm
a major organization.
But you can do something.
Or you could hide up in the mountains
and play with dreidel and wait till the
Messiah takes care of things and then
come back and go back to your life.
And just survive. And I don't mean to
minimize that.
Survival is very important.
You know?
Until until the yeshivas were
established and started to change
America,
the from Jews who were here just had to
survive.
They had to stay Jewish and and keep
keep their families Jewish and keep
everything going. It was not easy.
But uh
but that's why we don't celebrate the
dreidel. We play with the dreidel
because we always understand that those
two symbols of Hanukkah, the dreidel and
the menorah represent two approaches
that one has to a difficult situation. I
can run away and hide, which is legit,
or I can go out and fight
and light the menorah and be zocheh to
that Nissan V'Niflaos.
I remember during the Gulf War,
there were these American bochurim asked
the shach,
"You know, my parents want me to go
back. You know, am I allowed to go
back?"
Says, "Yeah, but you're going to miss
great things."
And they said, "Moshiach?"
I didn't say Moshiach. I said great
things.
And those of us who were here
during the Gulf War,
we saw nice symphony of flows.
Unbelievable things.
And the reason we saw it
is because we
were willing
to put ourselves on the line.
And to
and to work
to take a risk and to stay.
Sometimes people make that decision,
sometimes not. In the Six-Day War
most Americans evacuated.
When my parents came here
Six-Day War was of course 1967, they
came in 1968.
And uh they were touring around and when
they came to Haifa they found the
Yeshiva.
Right?
Kfar Chabad Siddim.
And uh
my father was very impressed and he said
I want to take the whole Yeshiva boys
out for
for uh pizza.
Um
So uh
so he meets this one guy who was
considered the hero
of the
of the uh
of the Yeshiva because when all the
Americans left in the Six-Day War he
stayed.
And I met him years later.
Uh you ever hear of Yossi Abrams? I met
him at an NCSY national convention.
He says, "Orlawsky, was your father a
florist?"
And I said, "Yeah." He says,
"He came in 1968 to the Yeshiva and took
us all out."
And uh everybody made a big deal about
me because, you know, when everybody was
evacuated I didn't go.
So I said, "Wow, how come?"
He says, "I was afraid to fly and I get
nauseous on uh
on boat trips, so I was afraid to leave.
So I stayed and everyone thought it was
cuz I was such a hero."
He says, "I remember when the bombing in
Haifa, they were looking for me.
And uh
I I wasn't I wasn't in the bomb shelter
at the miklat, you know?
So, they were looking for me, and they
finally found me couch crouching in the
showers."
And they said, "What are you doing
here?" He says, "They said to go to the
miklahat."
Miklahat is a shower. He says, "Miklat,
you idiot.
Not miklahat."
You know, I think he meant down to the
bomb shelter, you know?
But um
uh
you know, people people have to make a
choice.
You stay or you don't.
You know?
Do you Do you There are a lot of people
now who are moving to Eretz Yisrael.
And um
I think part of it is
that
they look at the war, they look at the
the things that are going on,
and they think to themselves, this is a
chance for me to be a part
of Jewish destiny.
And Reb Leff
had a very successful shul in Florida,
and he left to become the rav of a
moshav that was just starting out,
moshav Matityahu.
Um in terms of rabbinics, it's a step
down.
And uh he says,
"I went to Reb Moshe Feinstein and to
Rav
Yaakov Kamenetzky, and I asked them,
should I take this job or not?
And they both told me, the future of the
Jewish people is in Eretz Yisrael.
And if you have a chance to get a job
there, grab it.
Cuz that's the future.
There's no future anyplace else."
Interesting.
So, uh
I'm not saying anybody should do or
shouldn't do. I'm not here to give
advice. It's not my thing.
But um
but uh in your own lives, you're always
going to an opportunity where you can be
the one
who is going to act, or you're going to
be the one who
stands back and waits.
So,
you know, I have a little show in my
mirror passage.
And uh
it's not a it's not always set up. And
there are people who come, they set up
the chairs, they put up the table
cloths, they sweep up, they get the they
get the show ready. They they are the
doers.
And everybody else sits back and waits.
I remember when I was in Yeshiva once,
they did a big sponge. It was a big base
mattress. They did a big sponge. In
Pressburg Yeshiva, I was learning by
Rabbi Shmuel Kaminetzky.
And they had pulled pushed all of the
benches up front and stuck all the
standers on them.
So, uh
you couldn't start learning until you
reset up the the base mattress.
So, you had to pull all of these heavy
benches and set up all of the standers.
There were a few people doing it. I I
joined in, even though I was much older
than than the rest of the
people who were there.
And there was another guy there
who married uh the Yeshiva's daughter.
You know.
And he's watching this going on, and he
says, "I can help, too."
And he starts to pull a bench, and the
standers tumble over, and he says, "Ah,
I had enough of this."
And I said to him, "You know why
Yehoshua took over from Moshe Rabbeinu?"
It says because he used to set up the
chairs in the base mattress.
Not because he married Moshe's daughter.
He still didn't do anything, but it was
a funny line, and it was definitely
worth
worth the effort.
So, my friends, as we come to Hanukkah,
the festival of light, the time when
every one of us can make the decision
whether we are going to hide up in the
mountains and play with our dreidels
or whether we're going to go out and
fight the Greeks, whether we're going to
be the doers
or the people who wait
for everybody else to take care of it
and hope for the best.
And that's the decision you have to
make. But remember, if you want to play
dreidel up in the mountains,
you're not going to have a holiday
called Hanukkah.
It's the doers who created Hanukkah.
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