Beyond The Resume - How To Choose A Job (Ep. 271)

hi this is D lowski and welcome to the rowski show thank you thank you very much and whether you're watching with our friends over at 20 time whever you watch or listen to your podcast it's always nice to have you alone and by the way just a a shout out to our friends at T any time you know they had one of those uh uh GoFundMe things I forgot what it's called exactly and pages I just got two donations on my page and it was like months ago but I guess uh you know there a couple of out there who watch and you know they just realize now that it was taking place and uh that's what uh by the way I don't know if you heard that the am of rebba just said then the election uh between Trump and Biden you should vote for Trump so uh that just came out anyway and don't forget to like share subscribe and comment and uh we have a sponsor for this week's episode sponsored by okay you'll have to help me here I don't know if this is Rachel Raz or Ro RZ because ra Rael and Rachel will both be written the same way so if I got it wrong just give me a Raz in honor of my husband Isel raz's birthday now the sponsorship was sent in like two months ago but you never said when his birthday is so whenever it is happy happy birthday Israel and many happy returns of the day and whenever it is you should always celebrate it and if not then as they say in Alice in Wonderland we will celebrate your unbirthday so uh which is 364 days so there's many more unb birthdays than birthdays so whatever works for you okay um you know one of the things we do on this podcast is we try to talk about very practical things for Life there was a time that I was writing a colum in the ham every other week uh on and then at some point they added in a third person and so I was writing once every three weeks when they eded in a fourth person I already I dropped out so I said you obviously don't need me if you have so many people talking about already you know but uh when I was one of three it was once every three weeks you know so uh I was okay with that um but I would occasionally get letters saying could you please write about this could you be please write about that could you deal with this issue and I would always write the people back and I'd say there are two other people writing about K why you asking me and they say because everyone knows that you deal with the most practical topics in fact sometimes my my topics were so practical that the hamadia wouldn't publish them CU they had a little CL too close to home um those uh some of those columns really gave me an opportunity to express um my uh my more creative side one of my favorite columns is I wrote about how kids aren't getting enough sleep and how it's affecting them I wrote the whole column like from the point of view of somebody who is half asleep in that kind of a tone I thought it was so brilliant and my editor said don't ever do that again you know basically it should be an i Amic pentameter there are many different problems that come up when people don't get sleep Studies have shown that kids who don't get sleep that some of the Practical advices of how you know that you know the the hamadia tends to be much more uh practical there was a time when um uh there were three for one of a better word uh uh Torah Community oriented Publications in English and there was the there was the ham and there was the Mish and uh I don't know about the at in America you know I don't I don't live in America they stop publishing it here in Israel but whoever was putting it out it was very rough every time you read it you felt you were getting beaten up and the hamia was put out by you felt like you were eating a piece of cogle you know what I mean it's much more positive you know and the hamadia always managed to present the uh this Blackness you know so someone said to me what's the difference between the three Publications I I said I'll show you the the differences between them the put out a series of articles about the joy of having a lot of children and interviewing people with 10 children 12 children 15 children 40 children you know and how wonderful it is and how positive it is what a Mitzvah it is you know very very Stark I said if the hamodia put that out it would be helpful tips for people who uh have large families if the Mish put it out it would be the Dark Side of large families although there are no statistics available yeah um uh evidence would suggest that there are many problems of large families yusi footnote not his real name comes from a large family and he describes many of the problems he goes through you know and they'll bring a couple of anecdotal evidence to try to support the Dark Side of large F so um so I was ready for the h and they you know one more practical things so every now and then I would uh get somebody suggesting that I talk about this topic or that topic and I say there are other people why are you writing to me and they say because everyone knows that you get the most practical you'll speak you know M but needs to be said and you'll speak it out sometimes to a fault uh almost everybody knows this already so it's not uh I'm not breaking any ground here but it was close to 35 years ago that they asked me to speak in uh R sharan's Seminary on the topic of platonic relationships I did not prepare for it as I don't prepare for these podcast or anything else that I do that's not really true my muu shabash I used to prepare I would actually write a whole outl line and everything and plant it out but um uh so I walked in and I said to the Mad do I have to behave myself and she said no And I said Okay anyway I I gave this I don't know if You' call it a Shear Class A talk I don't know what it was I come into the Yeshiva that I was teaching in the next morning and the guys all say hey I heard about you spoke about platonic relationships and sharpman last night I said how do you know says I gotta copy the tape I said but I finished like late at night because that's okay by the end of the week every Yeshiva and Seminary in Israel had a copy and I realized that it was a topic that people needed to hear about but nobody was talking about it I'm sure I've told this story in the past I meet these three girls and one girl says I heard this tape and I broke it with my boyfriend and the second girl says I heard the tape and I broke up my boyfriend and the third girl opens her purse and takes out the cassette and she says my mother makes me take it with me wherever I go I said what' you think of it she says I never listened to it because I was afraid if I did I'd have to change my life and I don't want to so used me as a to talk about something very practical however there was a Bas Yakov which ironically I happened to know this was a major problem they didn't they thought they had a super Stark Bas Yakov but I knew for a fact that a lot of girls were involved with boys there and one of the people on the board tried to Asser me from speaking there because he never heard me talk about the tape I think that was actually to my advantage but he heard that I talked about the topic and he said anyone who can talk about a topic like that should not be allowed to speak in arabas yov if I had it to do over again of course I would do it because used me as a CLE to be able to get this message out to clell that's what I believe so I try to be practical and that's what I try to do when I write my columns Etc in fact I have in my little folder of Articles um three or four half-written articles that I started writing and halfway through I said this is true TR I don't want to write this yeah it's not it's not uh dealing with serious enough issues in a serious enough way I I want to get down to what needs to be said so I like to be practical so I would like to speak uh this week about a topic that I believe is important for people to consider and that isos making a living choosing a profession yeah now I'm not a professional I do not pretend to be a career counselor but the gamar discusses how you choose a career and choosing a career is extremely important because the direction you choose to go in is going to be based on a lot of different things first and foremost is is it a profession that is going to allow me time for my aotus Hashem if not then try at all costs to avoid that profession even if you really like it as the gar and kadan says did you ever meet an animal or a bird that has a profession for the most part not there are some circus animals and you know things like that but for the most part most of them don't really have uh professions they uh they just live off of the land he says and animals were created to serve me and I was created to serve a bar so could it be that a provides for animals without them having to work and they were created to serve me and I was created to serve Hashem that he wants me to work in order not to be able to have time to serve him I'm going to give up the ior for the tough that doesn't make any sense um kushki was talking about this in yiva I've told this story before where um uh where he says the ram says you know the difference between a person who Torah who only learns and a person who has a profession is that a you know person who works works three hours a day and learns nine hours a day as opposed to a person who learns he learns 12 hours a day I someone wrote the during how much to learn he says well during you like a BAL you only have to learn nine hours a day and the boy wrote back I don't do that during the year you want me to do it during [Laughter] vacation but balabas works for three hours three hours a day so says so there are people who tell me I can't make a living in three hours a day so you give up the I for the tough so instead you work 12 hours a day not the way to do it so instead a person has to make sure that they have a profession that leaves them time to be able to do the aod hasm so as you're looking across what you're going to choose to do take this seriously into account is it possible to have a profession with will you work less time and make money sure but you have to think about it you got to try to plan it out yeah one of my daughters was turned down from a uh High School here in Israel because in her interview they asked what are you planning to do and she says I hope to be a sh and the fellow ran the the uh Seminary the high school they call a seminar here in Israel person who around the high school said she's not for us girl should have shus she should have dreams aspirations she should want to be a MOA she should want to be a teacher so I asked my daughter why did you say that and she said teachers have to leave their kids with babies sitters and they don't get paid a lot of money a works out of their house and they can stay there with their children and they make more money than a teacher so I can support a boy in learning and that was the wrong answer she should have said she wants to be a teacher even though it means taking your baby after six weeks and dropping him into a daycare center instead of staying home with him and not making as much money to support a husband and learning I don't understand it to this day I don't understand understand it you know but uh uh when it comes to making these kind of plans uh I did a question answer for Yeshiva recently and one of the questions was how do you know when you're ready to get married Etc and the first thing I said is well can you answer the question that my father-in-law asked me when I came by the house how do you plan to support my daughter what do you plan to do I used to have girls in the v that we were close with and they would bring their future husband's buy you know for a shabas meal and I would ask them that question how do you plan to support this young lady and they'd say and I said oh that's great did you tell the maket that when the bill comes in they should send it to AES said but all my told me that you should just have B I said oh no problem so did you tell the m to send the bill to your reim and they'll it he say I shouldn't have B I said B is after you have a plan of how you're going to earn a living and then your wife gets sick you know or your kid suddenly you know uh needs dental work or something like that that's what B talk comes in but if you're telling me I don't know how I'm going to pay the end of my at the end of my month my bills so if you're a big enough sadic that you expect the mud to fall out outside of your front window and you have to reach in and get it that's great and if you imp PL to be surrounded with the Anon that's also great but if you need a place to live and food to eat then tell me how you're paying for it you have to have some kind of a plan now that doesn't mean like most people say I want to make a living and they really mean I want to make a luxury uh I had a friend of mine that I went to school with and uh he was in university and then he decided to go off and learn Torah and he decided to stay in learning and eventually he had no choice but to get a job so he had someone teach him Plumbing now he didn't become a license plumber to become a licens plumber in New York is very difficult they they have a lot of rules and regulations to be able to become part of the official Plumbing Union and they are very protective very hard to do um Bara if you wanted to join his army you had to cut off your thumb and uproot a tree uh while riding on Horseback but it's much harder to become a plumber in New York you know you can't get off that easy but um um so uh he was an unlicensed plumber when you're an unlicensed plumber you don't make a lot of money so he also took a course on how to install Burg alarms and he would learn a half a day and work a half a day so his parents were very upset first of all they were upset of course that he left college and didn't get a real job but if you're going to do this already work a whole day they said this way you know you're not making a living and he said I am making a living I'm not making a luxury I I can rent an apartment I can't own a house but I can rent an apartment my children have clothes to wear do not design a clothes but they have clothes to wear my family has food to eat we don't have steak for dinner but we have food to eat so we're managing we have to we have to count our pennies but I'm making a living you don't want me to make a living you want me to make a luxury and that was the famous story I forgot who it was with but this very wealthy person is looking his house is on the beach here this gigantic house on the beach and he sees this fisherman has pulled his boat up onto the beach and he's uh lying in the sun and the guy calls out to him and says why aren't you fishing he says I caught enough fish for today so uh you know I'm going to relax a little bit he says but if you go out there and you make more fish you'll make more money and he says why he says because then you have more money you could buy uh another boat and hire another fisherman to work for you and soon you'll make more money from the more fish and you could buy a whole Fleet of boats and then you'll make a lot of money and you you know you'll be very successful and then and then you can buy a big house like me and then and then you can lie on the beach and relax says but I'm doing that now so what we're saying is instead of working until you're rich and then sitting and learning a half a day do it now what's important to you that a person has to sit down with your priorities and myod Hashem has to come first uh and if you don't have enough time to be able to um to be able to do your hasem to D with a minion to be able to learn tah Etc so then maybe you should be looking towards a profession that will do that for you more now this is very important a a lot of people are defined by their profession I'm pretty sure I told the story recently it has a has that ring to it somebody meets the brisar RV and he says Soh so who are you he says I'm in the sugar business says okay and a few minutes later he says so who are you and he says I'm in the sugar business I bring in the sugar cane from uh from the Caribbean and I manufacture it into sugar so oh okay and if few Mis lady says to him so who are you he says I'm in the sugar business you know I I make sugar and then I distribute it he says you keep telling me what you do for a living you don't tell me who you are that's your job that's that's not who you are who are you and it's such an important question that are you letting your job Define you or are you looking for a job that's going to make you money now ideally if you can find yourself um a uh a profession where you can make money and it leaves you the freedom to do what you have to do that's a tremendous thing right that that would be the ideal profession one where you're doing something that gives you the freedom to be able to do a you want to do now there are some people who choose to go into uh a Kesh they're going to be a rabbi they're going to be a rebi they're going to be rashash Shiva Etc if you're going into this profession understand that the odds of you making money um are even just to make a living is slight to middling it's very hard one of the great scandals uh of uh of our generation is that we pay more money to the people who take care of our kids and clean our houses than the people who teach our children uh we do not respect that profession at all and that's why for the most part the best and the brightest don't go into because they can't feed their family so only the most idealistic people who are willing to live poor or the people who are um uh have some other form of income know from an outside Source are able to go into it but a person who wants to go into Hab to be able to support your family it's almost impossible we've made it impossible um I'm sure I've told this story yeah um nor Weinberg asked me in if you could do anything to save clly what would you do and he of course was talking about Cur project he knew what the time was running Long Island in csy and I had a reputation that I was very successful so what would you do I said I would double the salaries of every rebi and Moira in every day school in America and he looked at me like I was crazy and he says I'm talking about K I'm talking about reaching out to people I have a project here in Brazil I have a project here in Germany I've talking about going out and doing things to help C and I said no let's say I take you seriously I said and most people don't but let's say I take you seriously you're going to make of a million people where you going to put them we have no infrastructure you know the day school movement unfortunately is not being successful and a lot of kids getting turned off from Judaism and the reason is because we don't pay them any money so a guy comes in and he's going from one job to the next job and then giving Bar Mitzvah lessons at night then he's also the youth director you know and he's just the whole time running from thing to thing doesn't have time for himself doesn't have time for his family doesn't have time for for the students they always say re can ask you a question it says we'll have to do it later because I'm running out the door and everybody remembers this when they went to Day School the re was always running out the door to another thing because they we're not paying them a living wage I said so you're going to bring all these people into a system that's broken you're going to drop them into a bucket with no bottom and the these Bal Chua that you make they're going to send their kids to these day schools and they're going to fall right out again he wasn't impressed but uh but that's something a person seriously has to consider and a call to arms and like I say I'm sure the people who have the means to change the situation of probably not watching my podcast they're much too important people for that but uh for the hamon let's at least try to uh you know ring the bell and and get the word out there that our number one priority should be to pay our and enough money that they can concentrate on perfecting their profession to be able to give our children the time and expertise that they deserve that only way you can do that if it's taken seriously but if a person tries to be in for x amount of time till he begins to perfect his craft he suddenly realizes that the only way he's going to feed his family is if he leaves you and go into high-tech you know or real estate or some other business that makes money or uh go into Administration where the most successful we take them out of the classroom and put them into Administration where now they can call up and talk to the mommies who C up the complain that their son forgot their lunch you know and that's what they'll do all day and and fundraise and do other stuff instead of actually teaching which is what they finally proved they do well so if you're very successful as we take you out of the classroom what a broken system but we've created it you and I certainly don't have the means to change it I don't have that kind of money the money is out there don't kid yourself if all the money that right now is going to be spent this coming year on PES hotels instead went to increasing the money that the reum and the and the and the moris get just for that not giving it to the institutions giving it directly to the teachers boy you would see a such a seismic shift in clly youell it would be unbelievable but at this point uh if someone says to me I'm thinking of going to I have to tell them in all honesty think seriously whether or not you're going to be able to make a living what a terrible thing for someone like me to have to say because I so believe you know I went to if you go to for six months and you don't go into Habor you carry the guilt with you to your grave you know so of course I think Hab is extremely important but what a sh what a condemnation of the from world that we don't pay these people enough money that they can support their family with dignity it's a terrible thing and you could keep cranking up the tuitions but you're but you're trying to get blood out of a rock you know and you know there are people who have told me and these are people who make you know well over $100,000 a year I would love to have more kids but I can't afford the tuitions because I'm not making it now because it just costs too much money to run a from family today and the tuitions are crushing and if you make a certain amount of money they don't give you scholarships now that's it can you imagine that we've created a system that this scourges from Jews from having children do you think there's not going to be a Tina on us up in shmay for this trust me we're a generation that's going to have to answer for that of re he was a kid and his family could not afford him so he never learned t and uh he was part of a traveling uh choir that sang with a kazin and uh he worked in a wine Factory and until finally somebody took pity on him and decided to teach him Ty he became a god of Israel and he always would teach children from poor families who couldn't afford it he would take them under his wing that's how the came to him and teach them Torah because they couldn't afford it so uh so what can I tell you what what a tragedy that I can't recommend Hab a to people from a financial point of view but you know that's a terrible thing but a person has to sit down and say okay you know what what can I do so that's why uh the gamar says you want to teach your son a paranos CIA clean and easy right something ideally that's the best profession and that's why Jews are drawn into real estate because hopefully you can you know sit in your office and make some phone calls and uh check things out and leave yourself enough time to do other things people who are good at the stock market or the gam or gambling but I repeat myself yeah um and they know how to how to do that so then you know they can play the stock market and it doesn't take up a lot of their time and leaves them time for other things now some people are investors and they figure out good deals it doesn't take them a lot of time to put a good deal together and they have people who are lining up to give them money because they know they know how to make good Investments yeah um there are certain people who daa go into professions that uh they don't have to spend a lot of time on for example uh there are certain um professions in medicine that you don't have to have a practice up and running all the time for exam for example an anesthesiologist you don't need to develop much of a rapport with your patients you just have to say count backwards from 20 and then they're unconscious and then you just monitor them to make sure that they don't die you know and that's it so uh I knew an anesthesiologist who made alah and every few months he would go to America and work for a few weeks and then come back and that's all he had to do and he made enough money to support himself and he didn't have to be there all the time I know a fellow who became a radiologist which you know he would read x-rays now they send it to him uh by an email and he has computer gives him perfect clarity so he sits in there and he spends a few hours uh a day reading X-rays and he makes an American salary and he's left to sit and learn the rest of the day so it's absolutely brilliant so there are options available now some people don't have the talent for these things you got to be real some people are not going to be able to do these kind of professions but if you can choose a profession that is not going to take that much time in your life and like I mentioned you know I know people who are sh who are very good at it and uh they work a few hours a day and they can stay home you know with their kids and tremendously successful and they can support themselves that way whereas their friends who are mois leave their kids in daycare work a whole day and don't make a fraction of the money that they make so these are all different considerations when it comes you want to have a job that leaves you enough time to do your AES hasem and you want to leave yourself a a job where hopefully you don't have to work that much and you can still make yourself a salary now having said that um pH told me an interesting story he says he went to school to become a CPA a uh um an accountant and he invested years he was about to take the CPA exam and he suddenly realized he hated accounting but he hated it with a passion not just he didn't like it he hated it it depressed him it made him upset and um he said to me should I take the CPA exam anyway and I said why you don't want to do this job so go and find something to do that you do want to do don't do something that's going to make you unhappy and every time I've told this story over people have criticized my advice and they say he should do it already he's gone this far or I gave an example where someone did three years of a four-year degree and they suddenly realized they made a terrible mistake and they don't want to do it and people say to me they should do the last year and get the degree so you have it in your pocket just in case I said but the person doesn't want to do it yeah but it makes sense invest another year doing something you don't like just so you have a safety and I say what can I tell you I'm at an age now we're just to throw away a year on something that you don't like something you really have to think carefully about so it's got to be a job that not necessarily you get your fulfillment from it but that it's something that you can do that does not make you unhappy and I'll tell you an amazing story I went to and I was at a Convention of people who are all out in the field already the was doing a question and answer and um I want and the question was what do you do if you're in the field and you're just not happy you know you're a Shiva you're a RV you're Reb whatever it is and you're not happy what should you do now I want to give you a background to this question his father of D leitz came to America um at the request of the himself to go and save America and he came to open up yiva to train people in habot to sit and learn TMA and that was his job to come and save America now it wasn't like Tash at the time where you're taking a guy for a short period of time to give him a SM and send him out it was to make like they had in Europe in fact the would not give to anybody um who got in America except for they would uh they would uh they felt they learned like a European sh you know it's a very long program and on a very high level so but the idea was to create these people who would then go out and build David died young from all of the aggravation that everyone gave him he had a very hard time his board turned against him and trying to drive him out of his own Yeshiva um R Chate said when we were in Yeshiva we'd walk down the street people would throw rocks at us that's how much they hated people who were learning Torah and it was just just terrible you know and he died young and his son R took over at a very young age and his whole Focus was Hab and everybody was given this message I received a mission from my father who received from to go out and be so now here's who are in the field and they say what do you do if you're not happy and of H said like this it depends if you're telling me you're just not happy you're not cut out for this field and every day you dread going to work and you're not enjoying what you're doing get out of the field give it up get a different job because more than anything you have to be happy I was stunned to hear say this and then he followed up and he says but if you're basically happy and content and you enjoy it and every now and then you get down that's the I'll give you some ases how to cheer up but but that original you have to be happy to the point where he's driven into these guys you have to do a my father gave his life for it we're on a mission that the gave us and if you're not happy leave the field so that's for sure true about accounting it's for sure true about any other profession if you're not happy you have to be happy that doesn't mean you have to make it your life's work you know I'm I'm sure I told this story also yeah people tell me I repeat my stories it's seven years of course I want to repeat stories um there are some famous speakers I know who have about eight stories and they tell them over and over and over again and everybody laughs the same way each time so you know I'm entitled to once every few years repeat a story thank you very much it's not my fault that there's an internet but um so I it could be I told this story beforehand I was living in a trell for one year and I came back uh to America and I meet somebody I don't really know him and he says where do you live erel and he says what are you learning before I can answer he says I learned my lesson I said I've met enough of you people from marel and when I say what do you do they say I'm learning bakama I'm learning Sanhedrin I'm learning suus so I say oh you're learning in Co and this one would say no I'm a lawyer this one says no I'm I'm in computers you know this one says no I'm a doctor but you didn't ask me what do I do for a living you said said what am I doing what I'm doing is learning gamar that defines me so it doesn't have to be a job that you use to define your life but it has to be something that you're not unhappy doing because if you're unhappy even if it's V Kesh don't do it find something else because the person has to not find their job depressing and so therefore people are going to be drawn in certain things so if you can find something that you really enjoy and figure a way to make money out of it that's terrific because as gamorra says there is no profession where there aren't poor people and rich people people can make money from anything one of the wealthiest people I met made his money in mail order and there are lawyers they're practic was never successful they just never made money I know people in real estate who make money hand over fist and I know other people they just can't close the deal they they can't sell it just just doesn't go for them so it's not the profession you know people I'll go into real estate yes you know it's not the profession will send you a Panos based on what you deserve and how much your B is but uh try to find something that you enjoy doing and if you can figure out how to make money out of that and that's why when uh I started teaching um I wasn't really cut out for you know for teaching at that point and um and I uh I stumbled into ncsy I was tricked into a taking a chapter and I suddenly discovered that I had such a talent for this schmoozing with kids and taking them you know roller skating and bowling you know and uh and and making trips with them and having fun with them and hanging out with them turns out that that's my skill set that's what I do better than anything and I was like my gosh this is what I'm doing for a living you know taking people around I know people are tour guides here in ell to me that's a rough job because you have to leave your family very often the tours overnight and and you have to sleep in the hotel by yourself you know and and uh get up the next day and you know sometimes they don't even put you in their hotel they put you in a cheaper Hotel you know you with the bus driver you know and uh it's rough thing and and they say I love it I love going around our show I love pointing out I love speaking about these things they just enjoy it very much so if you can figure out how to make a living at something that you enjoy doing then that's a plus somebody told me and I feel like I've said this over before that there was a question and answer in meaya and rman shom uh who was the mash there so they boy asked me how do you choose a job he says it should be something that you would want to do even if you're not getting paid for it so that's the idea you should look at your life and say is this something that I enjoy doing and I'll tell you another thing theiva said somebody else asked a question they said what if you're running a Yeshiva and you're so busy and I know this from running an organization you know when I ran Long Island in csy there's so much to do I had I had before a convention I would sleep every other night I would just work straight through the night i' work day night day and sleep the next night you know it was just impossible you know my father was in the flower business before uh Mother's Day or Valentine's Day they used to sleep in the sleep in the store didn't even pay to go home they were working non-stop yeah so um so he says what do you do if you're working so hard that you don't have time for your own learning and you don't have time for your kids and again and I already gave you his background he says you can be a workaholic in toyra too I if you spending so much time in running your Yeshiva that you don't have time for your Hashem or for your family then you're doing it wrong and you cannot spend that much time you're not you're not Moes you're a a workaholic you could be a workaholic in t too so you do not want to be a workaholic you want to leave yourself enough time for it so these are all some of the considerations yeah um what does that mean for you based on your talents and abilities your likes and your dislikes so you need to speak it over it doesn't have to be with a career counselor but it's got to be with somebody who's a smart person and knows what's out there you know and they'll sit down and they'll make you a suggestion I can't tell you what all the jobs are I had a daughter who went to school uh for cyber security because they said this is a great and upcoming profession you'll make a lot of money and it would be very easy and she hated it now now she's working in kirim on NYU campus not making anywhere near the amount of money that she could otherwise but she loves it so you have to uh you have to be honest and uh and see what it is that you uh that you're good at and what you want to do so that being the case these are all the different decisions talk to people who know it if they suggest shepherding I would talk to to somebody else I don't think that's really you know once upon a time that was a great profession for a Jewish boy but today I don't think uh that's that's the way to go so uh so make your decision wisely and like I say this will apply to people who are trying to decide where to go in life but even people who are in a profession sit down and ask yourself am I in a job that leaves me time for my aot Hashem and that I'm happy with and if not maybe it's time to re-evaluate and that brings us to the question and answer portion of our program by Yehuda Kravitz how do we reconcile the kari's assertion that an entire nation can't fall for a lie about their own history with the myth of Palestinian peoplehood the myth of Palestinian peoplehood is not something that the people were lied to about they know perfectly well they know exactly where they came from you can talk to them and they every Palestinian knows the truth it's convenient for them to make up a story yeah to be able to get sympathy just like the lie about Jewish J about Israeli genocide just like they make up stories about the um amount of Gins who were killed they lied about the statistics just like they lied about Israel bomb the alifa hospital when it was in fact a Palestinian missile that fell short just like they lie about everything else everyone knows the truth about the Palestinian people and uh if you listen to people in the incoming Trump uh Administration whether it's Pete Heth or whether it's uh a future Ambassador uh uh hucke they'll all tell you the truth everyone knows the truth there's no there no nobody's being fooled here the fact that I say a lie that um will help me to be able to get things across and to accomplish what I want that's not what the kuzar is talking about what the kzar is talking about is can't anybody claim that God spoke spoke to our entire people that doesn't mean I can't make up a story right that doesn't mean I can't say that um Darius in the in the pelian wars wanted to bring his boat over but the sea was stormy so he brought out a whip and lashed it until it calmed down you know which Herodotus reports so anyone can make up a story you know there are stories about Paul bunan and his Blue Ox babe I mean anybody can make up a story that doesn't mean anything yeah and everybody can accept it nobody's saying that what the kuzari is saying is look at all the other religions yeah um yoska one of the fundamental principles is that he resurrected from the dead and went up to heaven that was seen by three people um and otherwise you just had his word for it that he was the son of God if he actually said that or that he was the Messiah or that uh you know God spoke for him he did Miracles that were seen by small groups of people you know when he walked on water or he multiplied the the the fish and the Loaves and things like this you know so there were people who saw him do some signs and one there's big deal the kazal did that all the time you know so that's that doesn't prove that God spoke to him that proved that he has you know he knows how to do some tricks but you know so could the amazing Blackstone so could Houdini that doesn't prove anything yeah so um uh but basically you're relying on him um Muhammad claimed that God came to him uh and told him his prophecy and that he should start this new religion okay if you believe him fine if not not but Allah never came to everybody and spoke to them you have to believe him Joseph Smith claims that an angel led him to a mountain and Upstate New York where he dug up these Golden Plates that he copied over as the book of the Mormons and then the angel took it away okay if you believe Joseph Smith that's fine but no one claims that the angel came and spoke to everybody you as they tell the story with these two brothers their rebba their father who was the rebba and did not indicate who should take over and each one claimed that he should be the rebon next so it was a big fight so one day one of them came and said H you know Tata came to me in a dream last night and told me I'm supposed to be the rabbi he says that's great tell him tonight to come to me in a dream and tell me that you are supposed to be the rabbi and I'll believe it the fact that he came to you is not very impressive so all the other religions are B on a person or one person yeah what the kuzari is saying is no Nation claims that God spoke to everybody at the same time and that and and the Torah says no one will even make this claim why because it's so outrageous that if it wasn't true no one would even make the claim and so that's why why isn't Any Other Nation say don't you remember when God spoke to everybody and they're like uh no yeah yeah yeah trust me it happened because how come I don't know about it never heard about it from my father I never heard about yeah yeah yeah it happened happen the kari's argument is that if it didn't actually happen no one would have the audacity to make the claim not that somebody won't believe something that's not true in the words of Abraham Lincoln you can fool some of the people all the time and all the people some of the time but you can't fool all the people all the time I don't know if that applies or not but I happen to have remembered that so I'm saying it over okay and Anonymous what should our perspective be on issues which our Das Torah has disagreements about how can we have Clarity when our ronam themselves seem to disagree on what our perspective reaction or Outlook should be on certain topics or challenges that's why it says one of the hardest questions that I am asked by people who are beginning their journey in Torah Judaism is how do I pick a rebi the answer is I can't tell you you have to find somebody where you hear what they're saying and say that works for me certain people will be drawn to people who have reputations of being more M and certain people are going to be drawn to people who are more M and certain people are going to be drawn to people who focus more on AA and certain people are going to be focused more on people who are drawn by Y and certain people are going to be impressed by a person's learning and other people by people's MOS and I can't tell you that's why it's a you have to make that decision for yourself and once you do then follow that person loyally and with Fidelity I cannot tell you how to pick that Ben Kan the gamar says was one of the greatest people of his generation it says the Azar's doors never closed on anybody as great is from the and they wanted to give him a position but he was a tal of B Shi and they said we would like to give you a position but you're going to have to give up based shamai and accept the teachings of billel and he said I can't I can't that was my rebi and that's who I was maal from and I can't give up my re's M and they passed over him nevertheless on his deathbed he told his son i f b Shi cuz that was my teachers that was my reum but you should follow the majority and go like Bas Hill and that's why sometimes you find uh the children asking their father should we follow you or the because maybe you have a minority opinion and even though I'm following my rebi that's what I'm going to do so the answer is do ream have disagreements uh yeah goes back to h and shamai b h and b shamai there one took an approach based on Ava and one took an approach based an and depending who my rebi is that's who I'm going to follow and throughout history there have been different Pim who have different approaches and although today it's not the same thing but Brisa fought against the musim movement very strong ly he felt this was an innovation that was going to take away from serious Torah learning and he opposed it and uh it seems you know back at the time that you know a person wants to spend time learning bu in addition to learning he says just learn T that was and some people followed the brisker approach and some people followed the muser approach from Y salant and they each were following their tradition you know there was a time when the fights between andag were so strong that there were fights in the streets um reab aer's son shim AER his son became a he sat shiv for him that's how dramatic it was today you don't really see that today you don't see that same kind of thing people say okay you want to go with that approach go with that approach want to go with this approach go with this approach you know history has sifted out uh which approaches are considered legitimate so if a person wants to follow um Han and somebody else wants to follow a m Han so okay they're each going to follow their reim and their their positions yeah if you're sari or ashkanazi I don't have to say which one is right which one is wrong as ashkanazi the answer is obvious ashkanazi is correct but uh I know SPID him who will disagree with me but they're wrong so uh but of course they should follow their tradition of course they should follow their reim of course they should listen to who's telling them what to do so um the fact that ream have disagreements that's not anything new that's been happening in kville for years and years and years what um what we do is we have to choose a Mahal and stick with it and you don't jump ship and and say you know I think the expression is changing horses in Midstream you know if I'm following this mahalak then I follow this mahalak you know um uh loyally and totally and if I'm going to follow the other one I'll follow 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