97: Time to Move On? (Aliya pt. 1)

hi this is Deborah love ski and welcome to the reverie last issue remember the watching on our friends over at or any time or whatever you watch or listen to a podcast as always we are happy to have you along and a couple of shout outs nation trade off something I have done right 14 years old big fan of the show and Akiba km its Mihaly 12 years old during the corona lockdown he happened to find the reveal a ski show and has been watching hours and hours and hours non-stop of me that is not easy to do trust me I have to do it on a regular basis and I can tell you that that's not easy so this is a shout outs and we have a sponsorship this week buy more tea and honey lists little English mas regrouping parents man gets Alice and Lu who this Bosch raga 5ik I am friends and it's a special kind of Dina bus Miriam Sprinter to find her Z bug she should find it bit her OV have a bias never be a cell and had to Akiyama and in honor of Morty's good friends over 20 years double chester and his first hit redemption you can hear his music and following months but if I damage Chestnut spelled CAG s and E are we gave a special thank you Dan for introducing me to the rabbi Orlovsky Show podcast it changed my life and actually a little will idea of something that we could talk about if you had to give a piece of advice for life what would it be thank you for all you do we love the show and we should wish you much muzzle and brawn thank you so much for the head brother if i had to give you one piece of advice it's a theme that I've mentioned many times and that is how good is baroque who loves you and created the world for you and wants you to get the greatest possible life in this world and the next and I can't speak for anybody else but I don't have that many infinite friends and when one of them is out there and would like to help me I say that's a relationship you should be working on okay so I was actually racking my brains trying to think what I should talk about you know after a while I've mentioned this and try a podcast the last thing I want to do is be trite and whenever I say I wanted to be yeah I want it to be some of you'll be relevant to people and I'm surprised how many emails I get that make exactly that point but you know they feel you're so real you really talk about issues that interest people you know I mention this many years ago I give a share every other mostly shy person I know at least and and they offered me people went they said I love coming to your Sheeran because you're so ordinary and I feel like if you can do it anybody can and I appreciate that because I know exactly what they mean I am an inspiration to the average people out there below average with me and you know what can I tell you that's that's the form of inspiration that I try to give in any event so I was talking with my family I said what should I talk about and one of my daughter's made a excellent observation something that I've never spoken about but I get asked about a lot in in in in letters and I don't know why I never thought of talking about it it's such an important point because there is a nursery that they are expecting an enormous wave of immigration to her CEL from the united states there was a editorial that was written on one of these online easy pnes whatever they were called you know websites that could give you news and it basically said it's time for the Jews of New York to wake up and realize that we're finished in this city we will never have enough votes to be able to go against people who are not in our interest there have been an entire slew of anti-semitic attacks and no one did anything and the and and the mayor has no problem going out and marching you know without any social distancing or masks for people who want to protest and not do anything about people who want to write and destroy stores but he's soldering gates to playgrounds in Waynesburg the term for that is discrimination and anti-semitism that's a term but we spoke about that in the past but I met somebody who was in the the rental business you he had just bought a property he was a young man and he borrowed from the bank and he got investors and he bought a rental property and then they passed a look that you are not allowed to raise in your rents and you can't pass on any expenses to the to the renters that means that as time goes on and your expenses go up you're going to start losing money there's no way around and since there a lot of from Jews or in the you know real estate rental market that's it they're finished their properties are gonna be worth nothing so that's besides all the attempts to try to force curriculum changes in these and you know on and on and on so evidently there are a lot of people who are starting to think for themselves you know Eric's gel looks like a better and better option for our future I've told this story before Remy left was being interviewed shortly after he came through and he was a rough in Miami and he was offered a position in motion mantis yo not the biggest Ella innards job you know and he says I went to red moshe feinstein and i ran through a vehicle coming etske and they both told me the same thing if you can get yourself a position in there she'll jump at it because that's the future for Glaser so amazing amazing statement and what can I tell you I made this decision 32 years ago to come towards them and and now there are tens of thousands of people who are considering it which will if that actually happens will dramatically change the face of adult and community here forever and the question about we what I tell you know there's a there's a perspective of history I came to its fell the first time January 1969 a year and a half after the six-day war and and he used to lion had one traffic light the corner of King George in yafo and it turned into a blinker at eight o'clock at night it was amazing amazingly simple type of a lifestyle I went to camp State hammock 1973 1974 the year before the Yom Kippur War and the year after the Yom Kippur War and life here was was amazing you know in its simplicity I used to remember they gave us that napkins at the table for some reason it was made out of wax paper and nobody wet your hands I guess that way they could like rinse them off and use them again I don't know but it was one of the many many caches that people who lived here at the time had I had a neighbor I have a cousin who moved here after the six-day war and those were the fiery enthusiastic people you know they were coming because you know they were it was part of the miracle of the six-day war people moved here to relocate and there was only is that there's only one textile factory now I remember this cuz you walk into any bank and they all had these sort of burnt orange curtains then she says you're gonna buy a dress and then you see a man walking down the street and he has a tie and it's made out of the same material as you dress and then you walk into the bank and the curtains as you go to get a cup of coffee and on the tablecloth and okay they I'm old enough to remember when there was only two sodas in Israel the tempo soda double Cola and Coca Cola Pepsi was part of the Arab boycott we couldn't get Pepsi getting red so that's why when I saw somebody telling me oh you know Coca Cola's bug BBS you know I don't know what their quotes of article and I say listen you know I have a curse it's over coca-cola stood up for the Arab boycott they couldn't sell in the Arab countries because they had you know they were selling here nerd so and the fourth the boycott but that was it you could get hit coca-cola or you could get Temple and topical it was terrible it's just was just so you know difficult to drink now I know I spoke last time about about Tyva I don't want to make it sound like a nation of time over here one person said to me you know I know you spoke last time about time and I was a terrible thing but I'm stuck here in Corona and what could I do I'm just I'm just sitting here making you know different things because I'm just like manically cooking because I'm locked in so I've been experimenting making you know really good fried chicken I said yeah time is a terrible thinking can you send me the recipe because it happens to be that you know I'm I have a number of foods that I have a soft spot for unfortunately just a lot of them really good fried chicken is one of them we used to have a Mangin KFC here and there itself but Dad closed down unfortunately but the you know so he sent me a recipe it's actually KFC original recipe chicken and he says he's been experimenting with different things to try to figure out how do you place the buttermilk so I actually he says he was using coconut milk so another thing somebody told me that a soy milk actually works well well every cup of soy milk and a tablespoon of vinegar mixed together and wait for it to curdle and I can take the place of buttermilk but so I don't mix I can't either you know but you know people who had money American tourists they would buy yeah they would buy coca-cola the rest of us we have no choice we drank tempo it's got a roughs back then and whatever so do you board only given these big heavy glass bottles that you had to take back to the my colored for a deposit and and it was a there was a diet soda of course there was no diet anything actually surprisingly you could still buy saccharine which had already been banned in America but here they decided it was really okay but yeah it was rough people used to come and bring their own toilet paper from America they had a pretty rough toilet paper over here yeah and thanks for that it was it was a very basic kind of lifestyle that that people lived here I came to learn here for a year and arel 1975 and that gave you a little bit more of a feeling of living here it was no place to go out to yeah I think there was one but that's from awful place you know otherwise it was like no place to go nothing to do is to say that you know the Irish lion was one of those towns when they pulled in the sidewalk at six o'clock you know everything sort of came to a halt it it was dead it's really no different it was it was a it was a socialist country so the television used to go off I forgot what time eleven o'clock at night ten o'clock at night exactly because they wanted you to get up in the morning then it once you're sleeping you know staying up all night watching TV see sleep late so these they just turn off the TV it was a simple of dime simplified and and then when I get married I came here for a year in 1982 and and we lived here and it was it was remarkable everything everything was so simple and and we actually enjoyed it very much I wanted to come back actually went to stay and I got a shock that I had taken a leave of absence from NCI and until I could get somebody who could replace me I had to go back Hashem number of years I felt a replacement I came back 1988 and I moved here and and Amelia and a friend of mine who had made earlier years earlier I had no idea what was going on I could not follow what was happening and he said to me I'll help you he says you can ask me when and you can ask me how and you can ask me who you can ask me where you can never ask why I don't know wise not wise in Israel there's there's absolutely amazing things now I'm telling you all this because it's obviously changed it's not the same places when I make came here 1982 it's definitely different but it's still a completely different world than what we're used to because as I've noted because I go back to America on a regular basis although Israel has progressed so as America and a lot of things that we have here they have in America as well much better so you have to try to keep up yeah I mentioned this last time that you guys go to America and certain shopping list of things that I just can't get here you know bar cream cheese real cream cheese not cream cheese that is sold by fat content you can get you get 3 percent 5 percent 9 percent 15 percent 30 percent but it's all the same stuff it look like have the idea of flavor and then they have what they call yellow cheese yellow cheese is hard cheese it doesn't come by any particular flavor you know in America you know there's different flavors that is this changing this is changing to be fair I can go to the store now and I can buy Gouda and I can buy mozzarella and sometimes you can find parmesan on the other hand we had a number of months where there was no butter to make bed in the country it was a little tiny bed I have a ongoing relationship with my local McCulloch you know most of them go to think supermarkets but we you know we go across the street lights them I collect you know fact here's my picture up on the wall I'm part my partner in the place you know and and he know I came here once I said there's no butter it's come with me he had a couple of bars hidden ways rationing the butter you know a how many times have I walked into his store it could be a drugstore for a medication that I need it can be whatever they go hannes abarnes excuse me no there's none in the country there's none in the country say you Shara Marty this cannot be yeah oh my gosh it's so interesting when you talk about seasonal fruit I came here 32 years ago have you ever walked into a fruit store or a supermarket in America and you couldn't buy an orange or an apple unheard of unheard of maybe some it was a time when there were more seasonal fruits and if you want to get the summer fruits you can I get them in the summer but that's long gone I can walk into a fruit store in the United States anywhere at any time and get peaches and plums and nectarines and cherries and grapes and cranberries and blueberries and whatever you want and here in a shelf the cherry season is about a month that's it then there are no more cherries you know it's not really true they go on discount you have to like check the box and see which of moldy ones you know what and you know but you know so I came I came by mail I moved there in August I went to the print store and I said where the oranges it says the egg that's it what is when you can have oranges the empty circus I said what bunch gonna fly it was it's a it's a different mindset anyway so with this potential wave of tens of thousands of Jews planning on moving here itself so I I say to myself and people have asked me a lot what do you think about making Aliyah should I consider making Aliyah is this a move for me and my family at this time and there's lots of considerations it's not an easy question now sometimes people ask questions that they think are easy questions that really you just can't give a simple answer to yes or no somebody told me I didn't hear it from them that rainbow momentum every roller would tell people if you have teenage children don't make alia sort of a blanket rule now there's no question that it's rough it's rough for kids to come here but I'm I'm always nervous about blanket rules and like I say things have a tendency to change their nature you know we've been around a lot long time and and the the changes that take place in society are just absolutely amazing so I want to talk I want to talk about what are the considerations that people have to make because this is such a life-changing event and and I have today there people make aliyah and they can't make it they go back they go back um because it's very hard and sometimes people do a lot of planning a lot of setting up and then they come and they you know they the realities of life and country even if it's a child even if it's your country and even it's a Jewish country I remember I kept saying to my friends as I encountered certain things why would they cuz I told you when what who helped never why why we don't ask you know so when but my whole first year the the line I kept getting from people is it's gel nicknamed Leah stirring the garage says there are three things that are kinda with you sort Olam haba Toya and Kenny except me some can again tell you're right and it's time to meet you soon yeah Nick give you certain sufferings yeah and I said I understand but why do they have to go out of their way but assume that I would say why all of a sudden this everybody do everything by a cousin tisha shear because of each was no damn much larger she or you know so okay Nick nummy service is so much and like I say tremendous progress has the Nate so so I realized that this is a topic that needs to be dealt with and I guess it's sort of appropriate as we start the three weeks and we start talking about the days of hormon what it meant to loser itself so those who are considering possibly relocating their life to be in the place of the destiny of the Jewish people that's a very important thing so I'm going to start this week with the simplest point that you need to consider yeah I'd be in America and people would say to me it's so hard living here itself and I said yeah here it is and I would go over different things about it that was so difficult and they would say to me then why do you live here now I used to have people from America come all the time and they would say to me the apartments here are so small and I said yes I'm living in a four-bedroom apartment because I I built on another bedroom but yeah I lived in a house a two family house in Far Rockaway with a basement and a and a backyard and a porch and a nice quiet cul-de-sac Street I didn't have to deal with with people and yeah yeah this is this is much smaller violence they say to me it's so hot here and I said yeah yeah we live in the Middle East with the desert there's no question about it sometimes in the summer you can get one of these calm sins that go on for weeks weeks yeah the good thing is you don't have to worry that you miss the weather and for time in America you know you have these news news stations that give you the weather every 10 minutes here you don't have to continued hot I said yeah yeah it's definitely hot and they say it's so dusty why is it so dusty and it is dusty it is dusty you have a hat there so it gets dusty very you have to really keep brushing it if you wanted to look presentable that's why the minute I chose you you know bother looking presentable if you had but I'm always amazed at Americans how how presentable their hats are but the way you wash the floors in Israel is what's called sponge ah somebody told me once it was called sponge job and what it is is you take a bucket and you take a rag and you put the rag in the bucket and then you have a very long squeegee now at least it was a squeegee wouldn't bother me it's not a squeegee it's like a spongy material explain why that's important and you fold the rag over so it keeps coming unfolded and unless you have like a real special method something will actually make a hole in it put it over the face but then it gets hard when you have to put it into the bucket yet and you rub it with this rag on the floor and then you take the squeegee and squeegee all the water and I said when I moved here why can't we just get a mop and people explained to me because the floors are made out of mulatto now I didn't know this until I went to buy my apartment but apparently black don't actually have a name it's called terrazzo they said it comes with terrazzo floors and I was like oh and then I said mulatto terrazzo anyway so you have all the sand blowing in because you've no way to keep it out and the sand on the of those blotto it would just rip a mouth to shreds that's why and you can't just mop it up you have to squeegee it out because all the dirt all the dirty water and sand you pull it out so they said why is it so dusty I said I'm sorry the place was abandoned for 2,000 years and the Guerlain comes in twice a week and she hasn't gotten everything yet you know so yeah it's kind of dusty and then they always at the end say then why do you live here so let me be clear if you want to move to Israel because you're looking for an easier life I don't know the desta solution with the fellow in this editorial that I read suggested was not moving towards film he said either Florida and Texas and I suppose it will be an easier life over there but by a meaningful life so so what people would ask me they say I'm thinking making alia and I would discuss all the problems but they say but you live here and I said that's different I'll bring a tourist source in a minute but first I'd like to go to one of my favorite go twos which is of course to be tourism Batman had a villain called mr. freeze and mr. freeze had some kind of an accident with chemicals whatever was and he could only exist in a sub-zero temperature so if he went outside he had to wear a suit that kept him you know refrigerated and otherwise inside his is layer it had to be sub-zero temperature yeah so it's good mr. freeze you like living in sub-zero temperature it's relevant I have no choice I can't live that way I have the overdose when they answer the king of Hawaii teaching Tara it's not very valuable you can't get killed he says lamont of a diamond to a fish that's in the river and a bigger fish is chasing him and the Fox says come out here on the land and he says I think you're supposed to be smart he says if in the water I might get killed or I might not but outside I'm for sure gonna die so I live in there it's no because I can't breathe anyplace else now don't get me wrong I love going to America it's been in America yeah I am an entitled American yeah with white privilege even though I'm a Jew I suffer from anti-semitism but apparently I have white privilege yeah so so but my grandfather came from venn grunts : never learned English and my father had to pull himself up by his bootstraps build a business he never got to finish school but he sent us all in school and we came out as entitled Americans I know my way around I go to the store it's easy everything has prices on it there's a large Persian community in Great Neck and I the story was told that this fella came and he wasn't used to America you know so he goes does Oh shopping the supermarket she says two hundred twelve thousand sixteen cents he says here take two hundred she's no no it's two hundred thousand tell the manager he'll take it in America everything is prices can you walk into my colon and there's a random price selector and when they hear your accent it definitely goes up they said how much you want to pay I was like no no no it's bending to make ie yeah so I grew up entitled so I go back to America I know the language I know everything works yeah I can read all the signs you know I know everything's going it's it's it's very easy for me I'm used to it and here I'm my grandfather came from beg rough know I can make myself understood in Hebrew but I can't speak in Hebrew because when you're a speaker the words are your tools and I've never really mastered Hebrew the way my children have to be able to communicate our ideas yeah occasionally I can tell a joke in Hebrew is very hard very hard you know they have you know but they call Cafe have for kefir fook literally means an upside down coffee because they make it with milk like especially milk instead of with hot water and you add the milk you know so I don't know why he's not called a cappuccino but it was something kept reaching a fan for anyway so I get onto the elevator and someone had stole their coffee there and everybody's like looking at this puddle on the floor and I go no careful I got a laugh with that from Israelis that was really quite an accommodation anyway so um so so why would I live here it's much easier in America but I breathe when I'm here yeah I I feel like I belong you so the first thing you have to ask yourself is am i interested in doing this what do I really want to do it because you really have to want to it I'm gonna talk about that more next week I'm talking about really wanting yet so and wanting to live here because it's hard okay so I think the bees are suffering so unless you really wanted you're not gonna get it okay that's it for this week if you want to find out more about the show you can go to every last bit calm make comments contact me you can sponsor an episode and that's about it I'm Deborah Lasky and this is the revolution it's the rabbi Orlovsky show torrents symptom ready to go the rabbi Orlovsky show knowledge and wisdom will help you read lots of fun at every episode and we don't have to ride it's the rabbi Orlovsky show around my role on skis.com told Russ anytime you to mourn its rabbi Orlovsky show tourism my little apps key showing till it's time so we meet again throughout my rollout ski show its the rabbi of out ski show it's the rabbi Orlovsky