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hi this is Deborah Orlowski and welcome
to the rabbi Orlovsky show and whether
you're watching on tour anytime or
wherever you watch or listen to your
podcast it's nice to have you along I'm
trying to get back onto schedule it's
been a little difficult for me I
mentioned this in my last podcast that
it's hard hard to summon up the energy
during this time to really do what we
have to do but that's part of it I'll
tell you another reason I ain't was
asked to speak about the situation with
the coronavirus I mean gosh it's all
anybody is talking about day and night
everybody's locked up in their houses
and they just going through this so I
put on a podcast and I basically made a
point that now everybody's making which
is what's the cost to destroying the
economy what's the course the people not
being able to have jobs what what was
like and now everyone's making this
point yeah I I just met a little earlier
and I received some really horrible
responses about the horrible very nasty
and and you know which I really can't
understand because no one's making you
listen to this click on it or you just
like not to click on it I don't know why
everybody has to listen to it and get
offended than getting angry and say
nasty really really horrible things I've
every now and then I get a terrible
email but when it's like really terrible
I know the guys crazy yeah it's clear
the person's crazy yeah my usual
response is thank you for sharing your
your opinions your is is crazy
so you know I don't mind I don't mind
you whirring someone who's crazy but but
the amount of really negative responses
that did anybody had it yes so some
people decide to attack me on is it the
flu is it not like the
okay it's not exactly like the flu but
now that the statistics are coming out
more and more studies are showing that
the death rate is a lot closer to the
fuel to the to the flu
yeah because they just haven't tested
everybody I started to test people and
find out that everybody had it my
brother so thank you sir - Tariq he's
older than me he had a quadruple bypass
he got the corona and he got better and
his wife had no symptoms but she must
have gotten it because she was living
with it you know and there's a lot of
people who were just asymptomatic just
even then a pop up so anyway this was
the point that I that I was trying to
make and there were only two responses
that I got that is inspiring me to make
this podcast and and I'll share them
with you two comments one comment was I
feel like if you would have made this
podcast later you would have said
something different that was number one
number two is I don't think being a nerd
stro you appreciate how terrible things
are here in New York and that is true
mister we've had less than 200 deaths
here in a row and most of the deaths in
America are in New York New Jersey I'm
like the tremendous of percentage and so
it's it's become something incredibly
devastating
and I realized that my points that I
were making although technically correct
we're definitely insensitive to the
situation because we have lost so many
people my brother in West Hampstead is
it a relatively small shawl and he just
went through a story if the story of
people who passed away people who lost
both their parents people my brother
told me he's in Muncie and he says that
six days a week so so it's true it's
true the situation in New York is
dramatically different than here in
their show and yeah if I had realized
how devastating the situation would be
for so many people I would have probably
sent something else no question about
but but that's not the biggest point
that I want to make because well those
those two things gave me pause I'll tell
you what is the main inspiration for
what I want to do I have people who have
listened to all of my fear and fears I
got an email not that long ago from
somebody who just discovered my podcast
went back and listened to all of them so
so I'm going to have a conversation with
the average rabbi Orlovsky crazy out
there and there are I know this I've met
them
they're people who listen to everything
I say and the problem with that is that
they can say it right back to you so I'm
going to have this conversation with the
listener who I can just hear them saying
it's me nobody actually said it to me
was a Russian but my real asking what
were you trying to accomplish with your
punches when you spoke about coronavirus
I said it doesn't make any sense to
close down the entire country you know
it's so dramatic destroying the Academy
one second will you suggesting people
not listen to the red bottom no of
course not I
that clearly will you suggest that
people that listen to the doctors know
of course that so then what was your
point
mmm what was my point my point was then
I was in shock that's all I was venting
because I just couldn't believe that
everybody is going to go into the houses
you shut the door everyone's gonna lose
their jobs you know and then millions of
people are gonna be thrown at the in
unemployment and and then the airlines
are gonna close down hotels them to
close down and I just could blame it
okay everybody else key I hear that and
I really hope you're feeling better now
but let me tell you something that I
could you say many times you said the
biggest problem in yonder's today is
relevance that a kid will say to his
Rebbe yeah
but he's learning come on Rebbe why am i
learning this what do I need this for I
don't know what an ox and I don't plan
on buying one I don't run through the
street with pitchers if I divorce my
wife it'll be in based and I won't throw
the get from my roof into her foot say
where it catches on fire on the way down
so your whole point is relevance so here
we are so
it's locked up in our houses because
this coronavirus and we're turning to
you for understanding
whoa back up give me you want me to
explain why this is how am i what am i
enough yeah III how can I know from your
laughs key you're the only one out there
not not not doing that no come on
and I can send you copies of whatsapp's
and emails and videos where everybody
this brother knows why this is happening
is because of this Avernus because at
that in favor and we're just showing
this and we're and we were weak and bad
and the gushy is emitted it's base shake
well whatever it is yeah and they're
people who are ready to sit down and say
chapter in verse this is why this is
happening
such a cable such Gaia somebody's gonna
stand up and say this is happening
because you did this or you did that I'm
stunned I'm being I'm the unconventional
live with it cuz it's happening and
everyone is turning to you as a voice of
reason that just shows you how terrible
our generation is pick up you're a voice
of reason give us something that we can
hold on to give us something that we can
focus on excuse me how can i how can I
possibly know Zoe
so I heard you say on a shear once you
told the story when every single I was
in his 90s since he was a rubber Newark
and he suddenly disappeared and they
made a gigantic search to try to find
him and know it was and eventually they
found that he drove his car into the
Passaic River
and you know so this was the father of
nothing Segal and and ego Siegel who I
was friendly with and I went to pay
Shiva Coke and I walk in the house and
he goes this oh good Romeo Lasky's here
I heard him say on a Charon suffering
that we can't understand why a caged
bird who does what he does so he's going
to explain to us why xavie died I really
wasn't expecting that but it's true I
did give different examples on my
suffering tape about how although we
don't know for sure why something
happens when we say you pass fish
promise' yeah that you have to try to
look at what you did and try to figure
out why this happens there is a kinds of
making an equation I may not be right
but I have to look into it I'm obligated
to to to look for heads I remember I
said give me some background because I
don't know the whole story he was in his
90s he was a Rovin Newark for many many
years and he still was there that day he
had been on his son Malcolm singles show
and he was doing you know banter with
his son and it was yeah and then he
drove back through Newark and it was a
foggy day and they showed me on Google
Earth they show me there's a road he
made to turn down the wrong road and
this road doesn't have a barrier and he
drove in the fog right off into the
middle I said that can't be you can't
have a road like that he says a number
of people have died and they've
complained about it I said unbelievable
I said okay so I will offer you my
understanding of the situation
an old drove in his 90s goes home go
Cicely Tyson sleep okay but he'll come
out listen he lived a long life you know
it was yeah we'll talk about this he did
that that he did another bill came forth
an amazing thing I get this question
when I do question answer how do you
explain the death of young people
I said you understand implicit in your
question is you don't mind of old people
die old people die that's okay right I
don't have a question I said at what age
is it okay for someone to die that you
don't have a moral dilemma anymore 30 40
50 60 how old does someone have to be
that you say okay well that's okay I
don't question I've got no younger than
that already I have to ask the question
the answer is every death is a tragedy
whether it's a death with trial or a
death of an old man
but our tendency is to say okay listen
my father was shown when he got the
diagnosis that he had lung cancer he
says listen I have nothing to complain
about God's been good to me doesn't it
saying to hell in my person loose till
70 I made it to 70
whatever happens I have no complaints
and there are people is that okay listen
you know he was old it's time you know
because Rafa wanted us to remind us that
every debt is a tragedy so he goes on to
his son show so everyone can hear him
that he's alert and he's his sharp
and then there was traffic and it was
rain and so he took a shortcut cause he
didn't do it and he made a wrong turn
because of the fog and then guns clouzot
is turned upside down and they have to
search for him to remind us that every
death is a tragic what's interesting
that this is a virus that tends to kill
for the most part older people most of
the people who have died in the age
groups are over 80
the next most group is over 70 and by a
much smaller number over 60
listen that the odds of dying of this is
very small yeah of course they have the
debt but it's much more it's a virus
that kills the elderly and the sick so
but my point is I heard you give this
year and you said that we can look at
tragedy and try to understand
so okay Roberta Lasky I turn to you for
some kind of guidance in the middle of
this coronavirus situation it's right
it's wrong we should be locked up we
shouldn't be locked up eventually going
to come out we're gonna catch it out
fine
right now you spent weeks in my house my
Panos has been destroyed I can't say
Kaddish you know for loved ones
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everything is disrupted so so give me
guys I live downstairs remember so
higher Greenwald
head of more seminary we we have a
little mere passive minion few families
together his son just had his Bar
Mitzvah I'm throwing candies across the
episode your social distancing so what a
way to spend your my Mitzvah huh and
look how many people got married or not
new prescribed so so let's try to
understand and I will share with you
having thought about this I thought
about this because of this conversation
I'm having with you now and whether or
not you were able to articulate it or
not I will attempt to give you my read
I'm not going to say this is because you
shade those to long but because your
skirt is too short I'm not gonna say
this is because you talk during
governing or because you have a smart
phone I'm not doing any of that kind of
stuff I don't believe in that you have
to be a prophet to do that
I'll tell you what my insight is I gave
a shear recently it's unter any time was
on precious bone where I talked about
Matz's and that they added the water to
the flour put it on their back so they
can knead it and they baked it when they
got out of material very long distance
yeah it still had not become humming the
matzah that we eat is to remind us how
quickly the gula can come all right now
your image right
you have been slaves for total ten years
well you've been down if you join your
ten years you've been you've been
suffering for over 80 years
terrible pain you've seen your children
used as bricks you've seen your wives
miscarry into the mud and have to keep
needing those children into the bricks
you've seen children slaughtered for
their blood and every day you fall
asleep and you get up and it's working
and working and the hands were bleeding
from the thorns
what's gonna happen what's gonna happen
there is a Rashi in vehicle that is so
filled with pathos when they were
building the mich gun so the women
wanted to donate the little copper
mirrors mostra better didn't want these
because they were used to fix yourself
up and they were they were fat Ava and
then the Michigan coach bar who says
those are the most precious to me you
mean they're willing to give up their
little copper mirrors why is there a
Jewish people
because the men had given up because men
illogical what's supposed to happen I'm
gonna have a child and this can to die a
terrible death or best-case scenario you
know be worked to death and beaten
once their children and the wives would
come home after about this park also
breaking work and they would fix
themselves up but their little mare is
as best as they could to interest their
husband so that there would be children
to them to bring at him a time I've
never been a slave and I've never been
pregnant and I've never been a pregnancy
but Li bi mare it probably isn't
pleasant if there was anybody who didn't
want to get pregnant you'd imagine as
the women because of the notion said
Connie Osman was saved from retrying
from Egypt the righteous women the men
had already given up the women could see
beyond it to the gula and the minimum
like what do you expect gonna happen oh
wait no I know a guy who so up with a
magic stick and I'll turn all the water
to blood and omega join hailstones made
out of fire fall from the sky and you
know I mean maybe he'll split the siege
so we can walk right through it right is
that what you're anticipating and the
wife said I haven't worked out all the
details cuz that's not my job that's
guys department
God said he's going to save us and he's
gonna redeem us and he's gonna take us
out how it's gonna work I don't know I
don't have to know
come come work with work with me here
for a minute you believe shits gonna cut
like like that shit's gonna come yeah
all of a sudden guys gonna write in on a
donkey he's gonna destroy all the armies
and all the world powers and all the
nuclear bombs and all the planes and all
the tags he's gonna take the Jews were
all around the world is gonna wish him
to excel and all the nations of the
world are gonna recognize the crown over
your heads
booyah moly yeah sham a furnished
apartment on that day all the nations
will recognize God and then they'll
rebuild the basement does you know that
don't that's over there now that's gonna
go down put take that down and a basin
make this is gonna be put up either it's
gonna fall from the sky or we're gonna
build it and that's it
the end
you see that happening in 18 minutes
come on talk to me
really you really see that how work it
out for me how's it gonna be how could
this possibly be the bris Karev said the
way he escaped from the Nazis is that
when he found himself in a dangerous
situation
he only focused on one thing aim owed
middle body there is only I could his
burrow and nothing else matters
don't worry about Iran's nuclear bombs
don't worry about the missiles coming
out of Gaza don't worry about his bowler
thinking tunnels none of this you don't
worry about anything all the
anti-semites oh the difficulty that's
going on it's nothing like that
coach Brown was gonna turn everything
around
it's going to come and the world will be
in total completion Hey
we have just received a notice that the
King Messiah has arrived to establish
God's kingdom on the world uh all the
Jews are being asked to please move to
all of the local airports where they
will be whisked to the Holy Land wait
apparently the Dome of the rock is gone
a building has fallen from the sky and
taken its place there is a cloud over it
we're trying to keep up with the story
winner is our correspondent in Rome I'm
standing here with the Pope Pope we were
wrong
excuse me libera Christians will run two
thousand years cause it was wrong take
off the right one put on a black one
that's it I was wrong what can I do
everybody every year I go oh my god and
you know like that's gonna take like
that twenty less than 18 minutes is
gonna happen how is that even you can
even imagine such a thing so coach
Bronco says watch this okay
Remy Lasky makes a podcast a year ago
and he says here's my prediction a year
from now the entire economy is going to
shut down there will be no ff4 airplanes
flying all the airports will be shot
everyone's gonna be quiet to stay in
their house and not allowed to live
except to go and buy food medicine
businesses are going to collapse and
mass unemployment is going to go into
millions and millions of people and
society as we know it is going to be
destroyed thanks for watching people
would say I knew that guy was crazy but
I mean this crazy how could that
possibly happen you know how would
happen like this an instant how could I
who closed down the world who can even
imagine such a thing and everybody is
just stunned and nobody even knows what
to do and how are we supposed to react
to this how do we get out of this you
gonna wait a year and a half so there's
a vaccine I Got News for you they said
they don't even know if they'll ever be
a vaccine I remember I don't know if it
was last year here before that people
went out got their flu shots and then
the flu mutated the flu shot was no good
against it a lot of people were dying
this corona virus has already mutated 30
times you're gonna cover 30 very
different
seeds don't know if they even gonna find
one they tried this medication they
tried that medication will this work
would that work so what you're gonna do
just keep everybody in the house family
some point they're gonna have to come
out and then there will get sick
something I'm gonna die so what did we
do in the meantime
we didn't nobody said that by locking
dagger to cure this the only thing is
that it would give you know a little
time for the hospitals to build more
hospitals get more respirators you know
so what did the whole lockdown do
it did one thing for sure it showed the
entire world that a coach burro who can
close down the world take an economy
that was on fire
the least amount of unemployment
yeah stock market reached the highest
that had ever been airlines were on
their way to having one of the best
years ever in there it's travel the
tourism was added of roof they had the
building new hotels getting everything
going
that's what gone
allowing Isabel our planet may not even
be open anymore
you can't be an airline and pay your
employees and have to pay off all these
planes and I didn't anybody fly that's
it that's a pretty simple business model
how could it be how could such a thing
happen because problem can do anything
I'm sure my fact-check is out there will
remind me who but there's a famous
facetious story I forgot who the Rebbe
is this rich guy comes to the raba
and he says listen grabber I'm rich I'm
Hashem I have the respect of the entire
community I can basically do whatever I
want how could what do I get a good farm
for I'm doing great
so the Rebbe assistant coach bajo could
take everything away from you in a
second
says hey it can't be there's no way it
can be it can't happen
okay so guy goes home and suddenly he
gets this sugar in his brain something
starts like temporary insanity he
decides he wants to become a Christian
i'm christian discussion to you wealthy
man children and grandchildren so he
goes down to the church he says to the
priest I want to convert the priest
looks at him and he says come on yeah
don't pull my leg everyone knows you're
an important member of the Jewish
community there's not a chance to
convert to Catholicism you're just
trying to make fun of me just just beat
it because no no this is the most
important thing in my life I have to
whip Christianity into my heart I have
to let yeah she and I have to if it's
going he says what can I do to prove my
sincerity the priest looks at him and
says takes out a piece of paper and he
says sign here that you're signing over
everything you own to the church and I
was in a friend's innings like okay he
signs the paper and he says fine I'll
have the baptism tomorrow morning okay
meantime we'll have people who judge
evaluate know how much you're worth and
you know he goes back home and it passes
it's temporary insanity something covers
what he did and now his life is over
and he goes running to the road he says
well what am I supposed to do my life is
over this is what happened so I didn't
know something I decided I lose crazy
like I wanted to convert to Christianity
what because I don't know why I know
went to the priest and the priest made
me sign of stars signing over all my
things
that's it I lost all my money not only
that I'll be a pariah in the community I
was gonna talk to me no one's gonna have
anything to do with me I figure I lost
everything I lost my status and lost my
money over my whole life is over
the rebus says I tell it I could rock
take everything away in a second and the
man started crying he says you're right
you're right what can I do now he says
to him I could affirm who can take
everything away from in a second and he
can give everything back in a second so
what do I do
you two ain't owed Nevada is nothing but
I could borrow bring that into your
heart believe it with all you can and he
said they don't know about his only good
morrow for he has everything he could do
anything
that night there was a fire in the
church church burnt down along with the
priest and the star and the whole thing
was going he lost everything in a moment
he got everything back in a moment
I know those other after the Twin Towns
went down I remember that suckers I went
to see where my Jewish burial coal mine
and he said this is the beginning of
Kokomo
this is the end so the tire was in our
Sameach so I said to him I said okay so
a guy walks in you know not from
bright-eyed bushy-tailed so you know we
start having quiet classes you have the
basics you talk through the base of
things work them through so should I
pull a guy across and say listen nothing
personal but we don't have a lot of time
left so I suggest you get from really
fast this is the end of time and remind
she gave me one of those looks which if
it was anybody else you means that he
would held at him he just gave me one of
those looks they didn't answer the
question and as I was leaving he said to
me the Dove it can move on we have to
keep doing what we're doing what I'm
talking about is up here what you have
to get people to understand is an ode
Miller body now come on if you're old
enough to remember 911 and I would
d week beforehand and said the twin
towers are going to collapse turn into a
pile of dust he would have looked at me
like I was out of my mind like that when
them vanished and what I heard somebody
describe as as bad 1970 disaster movie
special effects he just watched it go
down turn into a pile of dust
hey no the Levada Chris Brown who could
do anything he can destroy the entire
economy lock everybody up look at how
many people have lost so many relatives
and they can say Kaddish
give imagine that listen I lost both my
parents before this obviously and you
know you always think about that how
much longer do I have how long do I have
a mother how much long do I have a
father you know what happens when they
pass away I'm a done for the Ummah
general admission is sake Irish you know
I suddenly lose both your parents like
that and I have to stay at home can you
can you imagine can you wrap your head
around such a bit yeah Yahoo yeah I
should my car - Martha
now you're a shameless man less alcohol
rets God will be king of the world
Aoyama whoo yeah Shey my photos my wife
hug you and ask her work you think it
can't work
you think it could Marvel can't do
anything ain't no the middle of our day
we have to recognize this only hakadosh
baruj vertical can give us everything
and he can take everything away in a
moment before the flour and water turns
into comets the Google they can come I'm
associate sharm says that one of the
important things that I've heard of such
Seamus has produced need time alone to
stop cuz Brock who gave us that gift
people are so busy so some people are
using the time to think some people are
using it to watch videos play on their
phones
someone said to me what's going on here
and I said I'll tell you what it is it's
a very long Airport flight
yeah you up in the air and this
turbulence you have to sit in your seat
so get the little screen in front of you
you got your phone and whatever reading
material and that's it they'll bring you
around some food and some drinks if you
have to get up and go to the bathroom
and that's it you're just sitting in and
you say excuse me soon as when are we
gonna land Jesus I don't know
I know but we've been up here already
six weeks I don't know I can't answer
when we're going to land would you like
some more pretzels so when we do end and
we do come out and maybe they'll be
according to everybody's gonna be a
different world a different world than
the one we know I remember they said
that after 9/11
Nova Minsk is that Sal well we just lost
to miss 9/11 he was interviewed I think
by Time magazine time of news we had
rich one that he said the world will
never be the same two months later I was
going to speak in a school I said what
should I speak about they said whatever
you do don't mention 9/11 everyone's
tired of hearing about it this time when
we come out of this I don't know that
we're gonna go back as fast to the world
that we know I had to go shopping
someone said you know the rule is you
have to wear a mask I said no problem
I'm going as Donald Trump
don'tjump mask that I got the best that
what they meant it makes sense though
because permit and a half of flu and
that's what this is everything's upside
down yeah so I don't know what the new
normal is going to be yeah I don't know
a fellow and my share now it's on zoom'
my deaf yummy shy given the money now
it's on soon and
a he announced his daughter just became
a cop
I said how do you do that social
existence II I mean from is from but
oh that's that's really quite an
accomplishment I don't know what the new
normal is I don't know what reality is
gonna be I could never have anticipated
this I sure can anticipate what's gonna
happen maybe someone's gonna show up
with a stick and turn over the water
blood I don't know the one thing I do
know is that we don't know and that's
when when you listen to these experts
they say the problem with this fires is
we just don't know can you get
reinfected how many people actually have
it
we just don't know
I remember during the Second Intifada we
made a special some special fast day and
we did Yom Kippur cutting in the yeshiva
no samara Remender Weinbach during the
seconds about a hood Barak was the Prime
Minister and I kept asking him what are
you gonna do is is enough tone it down
my last shot I'm not gonna die he had no
idea I don't need that we know and said
room in the wine bar you know we say
Bernardo La Liga we don't know so if I
can give you one message at this time
ya ain't lamella thing we've made the
wine box love to tell the story but this
guy who falls off a cliff and he's
holding on to a branch and the branch is
slowly breaking and he says is there
anybody up there is there anybody up
there and a voice says yes I'm here I'm
gonna save you but first you have to
show your faith let go of the branch
okay
but it goes is there anybody else up
there there's nobody else something
caviola shem if that doesn't work cause
I agree honestly bear from the
coffeehouse yeah because that's it
there's nobody else up there ain't no
drill Avada is nobody else but a coach
but oh he did this he can undo it and in
the same unbelievable on a manageable
way he can bring them to base and
mikdash bring all the Jews there it's
John for you chef I'm here be a mainu
let this be the lesson that we need to
incorporate the a note Miller fado into
our life to be able to bring the nemesi
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