74: A Place for Every Jewish Child

hi this is Deborah Orlowski welcome to the raviolo ski show and what do you think I'm tehrani time whoever you listen to what your podcast we are so happy to have you along and we are sponsored this week as we flew slammer for roofing been separa please keep him in youth felis it's a difficult situation I know the situation personally please please that felis of clays felt can do wonders yeah incidentally we just started our online Duff yummy and it is so much fun I'm talking about for me I hope the people who are participating also enjoy it you know we have a program where I can see the people and they can see me and they can talk it's not like one of these little boxes where you write in a question you can actually you can do that also if you want but you can actually talk in this interaction and we just started this week so it's really very exciting I mentioned that because we just had in the Duff just today it said anybody who can Darvin for somebody for a commitment doesn't yeah 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podcast you know what I've been trying to work in progress and trying to figure out how to how to go and what to do with it and and because somebody sponsored an episode because they want me to talk about the seminar experience well they pushed the right button and obviously we did six episodes discussing it we have not exhausted the topic but I think we've covered it more or less yeah and as I mentioned I keep getting a lot of comments in a lot of different issues the other thing that took place was that this was to a certain extent a game changer because although I have discussed various problems and things beforehand when I sat down and took one specific societal program and problem and tried to deal with it a little bit more in depth I suddenly starting hanging emails from people saying can you discuss this can you discuss that can you talk about this and talk about that I'm fascinated because evidently there is a need for people to address issues in society I may have told this story before hand in and it bears repetition there is this massive schmear solution evening in Binion Illuma thousands of women come out to speak election her I mean not to speak loshon hora what to learn about her tonight whatever anyway so it's an amazing thing so somebody in my community of hano said why don't we do something like that for the men and we do and we get a very small turnout it's unfortunate it's one of the finest programs that are out there and it's really unsung and and every left who every year speaks you know we have Larry laughs and somebody else you know going to my comics you know so you know there were two comics and DC when I was a kid one was called world's finest and one was called brave and bold world finest used to always be Batman and Superman teaming up together and and after a while it used to be just Superman teaming up with somebody and brave and bold was Batman teaming up with somebody get up so Lahav do a lift up those we always have every left and somebody else we've had some real big big names don't get me wrong you know has to be to get over there was very left you know but when we left the first year said and and we always repeat it you know because the fellow who put out the flyer rode schmira solution is not just for women and every left said well yeah cuz the hey the Moraga ylim were done by the men be macabre loshon Hara the women didn't so I realized that's the reason women are happy to go to these events you know in the thousands because all they're hearing about is how terrible the men were when they were Makabe lush and her but her HAP's white men are so excited anyway as I mentioned we had a lot of you know very cautious of people come to speak and and I asked every bummin sets out a number of times to come and speak and he would always push me off and I had I had a relationship with a woman and I knew that this was he was just making excuses so I said Rebbe why won't you come and he said because I'm afraid that the public emphasis on schmira solution is being used as an excuse to stifle legitimate social criticism which means you have to talk about it you have to talk about problems there's no way to solve problems without talking about it without being able to approach it so I started getting emails from people saying could you talk about this can talk about that I have a long list of topics that I would like to talk about yeah because I want to tell you something yeah I was talking about promises and he'll you know the chaos of every person I remember had this discussion once with mushy Ravenna clay boards over time he felt a very strong need to be marbet story in America the cover times sent his father of David Lebovitz to open up the yeshiva to get people to be Margaret's tour in America he died young from all of the problems and his son of Hanif's took over with this mission that he was going to save America and and I told him I had a whole plan I had a whole plan I wanted to revolutionize the approach to cure because instead of sending barrel and marrow out to you know you know Des Moines Iowa and say okay you guys open a Colo these guys have no idea what they're doing and we'll fund you for three years you know so these so they they go out through the first year and they're just trying to figure out what to do because they don't know they haven't really had you know nobody really trained you have to figure out who's in your town who there is to talk to who's important the second year you can finally start making programs the third year you finally start to establish it and then the funding cuts off and so these guys don't know how to fundraise so they start borrowing from relatives and I started getting loans until they're so in debt that they drop out of about two cetera altogether and the whole thing closes down and you live with nothing and this happens in town after town after town so I said send out a team take a city and analyze where the Jews are how many Jews are there let's send out teams to all the different neighborhoods and communities at the same time this way we can pool our resources I had a whole thing and no hemic said to me you're forgetting the power of one person Evaristo cilantro was one person i Ravena was one person one person can change the world I would always say this and people would say to me yeah but what about this problem what about that problem you know I said listen if if I have to I'll save the world myself if you want to help me I'm happy to have your help if not I'll do it myself but why shouldn't I be the one to solve all the world's problems ah you'll say because you're nobody and you're totally unconnected no it's true but so what the out of the viaduct said I never asked whether or not I could do something I asked whether something needed to be done and I know what Coach bar would give me the class to do it so I look at it as if I have to save the world myself I will if anybody wants to help we're happy to have you on board that's my approach so so I start getting different letters from people saying can we talk about this problem talking about that problem talking about this thing it's always interesting because a lot of the emails that I got were yeah sure Clara for attacking this issue you know the issue of seminaries is a big issue and no one's talking about it this is what they say I don't know if it's true or not that's what they say yeah so so someone has to talk about it someone let's discuss it you can agree with me or disagree with me but there's make a difference the fact is that that if we have people talking about it and again based on just my small response that I've received I can see that there are a lot of people who evidently are interested in the topic we've got a lot of topics so we've got a lot of things that are that are coming down the pipe that I want to be talking about however you know as I pointed out it's almost Shabbos Shira last year's Shabbos Shira that's when we had our Australian singers that was our first musical episode and we're gonna have to do something special for that so keep yourself posted in any event when I was talking about the various problems I was talking about the tuition crisis how much money we charged him for seminaries and in general there's a big problem of tuition and I said that I have met a number of people honestly less than a dozen but that doesn't mean anything because not everybody chooses to share this information but a dozen front people who said to me I could have more children but we can't afford the tuition that was the point that I made and I got this email that I want to share with you before I give my response you mentioned that many people have told you that they aren't having more kids because they can't afford to pay the tuition and you were bothered by the way that the system is causing people to base a decision on having kids and the fact that schools charged so much for tuition yes in fact what I did say is there's something seriously wrong with a Linux system that discourages hidden from having Yiddish a Kindle ah especially because the camara tells us that all the numbers have to be born before Michelle can come so it's managed holding back Michelle yeah that was definitely my position in the same tone you mentioned that you shiva's all have fundraisers because of lack of funds and that you yourself are an opening up your shin because you're afraid of not having money to pay the Rabanne correct so I'm actually puzzled how you are blaming the achievers for charging tuition and struggling to pay their bills are you suggesting that schools have free tuition like Bernie Sanders wants to give free college and burden everyone in society I have to say this is the first time in my life I have been compared to Bernie Sanders I mean I've had a lot of stuff comparable so I answered M&E wrote back there's a problem however the problem isn't that you shoes are charging tuition in order to try to pay the robe am I'm sure you are also aware that there Jews aren't religious because it costs a lot of money to buy mezuzahs and kosher food and paid for yontiff and Luther - Reagan circus and matzo and Pesach is that also a problem with the store owners and workers who are trying to earn an honest livelihood should stores give out free kosher food and free mezuzahs of course that's ridiculous so why should anyone teach your kids for free the answer to everything is that there isn't a solution to every problem and there is no solution tuition problem either yeshivas must continue to charge tuition in order to function and people should understand that it costs money for your chef is to function there's an expression kazow yeah anyone who did not see the moon don't come to Bay stand and testify right this person made a statement that I think is is really problematic there is no solution no you don't have a solution that doesn't mean there isn't a solution just you haven't thought of it so therefore because I haven't sort thought of a solution that means there is no solution I sort of bumper-sticker once that said the impossible is the possible that hasn't happened yet there's no solution so let's back up let's back up you know Bernie Sanders who's talking about free tuition you know college tuition nobody is debating elementary school tuition nobody not the Republicans that are the Democrats not the libertarians nobody's saying that society should not pay for public schools not for elementary school not for junior high and that fine school those things were not seen as a luxury those things are seen as a necessity and when it comes to university cities and states heavily subsidized state universities and city colleges because they understand that there is a value to it but ok you know but they'll subsidize it but Bernie Sanders is saying is you should never go to Harvard we'll pay for it ok but anyone is saying that we shouldn't have elementary school education for children or high school education I don't think there's anybody not the Democrats not the Republicans not a libertarian who are saying don't have basic education elementary school and high school is not a luxury it is basic you need to provide that for free give it for free the Mario Bava Batra Daffy huff Alif that says the following zocalo so I each foot toyou sure been gamla Schmo shalmali who this traffic Tara me Israel it was for him Torah would have been forgotten in Israel parenthetically in a podcast sometime ago I said it was shown been Chetta and somebody wrote in to correct me but they were shaolin me he says we shouldn't been Shia but okay I saw one parish that wanted to say that the two of them worked together and you sure been gamla had the political power to be able to push it through but whatever yeah what happened b'stilla me Shh low of Milan doe Tyra Nisha in love low high a limit our machine on Tim Lavanya huh parents used to teach their children that was it you go to Jewish education at home and that worked but after a while it did not work so what did he do so they were mattock ain that we were gonna have in every little village some type of education and kids would come in at 16 or 17 and what would happen the Rebbe would get upset at them and they would leave they would above it attaboy yo sure Ben gamla the TK and she yeah mo shiva Milania t no cos Nicole Medina medina overhaul ear ver ear or monopoly sanosuke been shaven Sheva he established elementary school education says the Gomorrah and he saved Tyra I didn't charge for this he saved Tyra the story of the crimes Rebbe is a very sad story he was very poor and so he couldn't afford to learn tire and it was only through a tremendous struggle that he was finally able able to learn and he dedicated himself to teaching anybody Tyra who to learn and he said I said we're doing a terrible disservice because you don't know which taught me their Cohanim are going to come from the poor and we set up you have to pay your Muhammad to notice yeah so therefore so Hannah you don't pay me and it's if his parents almost stopped his education this is expensive so do I expect that there should be a Torah education for every Jewish child an elementary school in high school yes you want to argue seminaries are luxury okay but that a kid shouldn't be able to go to third grade and learn how to read Ebro learn how to diamond if their parents don't have the money so people also need a little oven ezarik people need matzah yeah yeah yeah chemical the Pisgah give me a chemical Pisgah it's burnt down and I'll offer you raised money to make sure that Jews have matzah to eat if they can't afford it we don't just say well you're already money don't eat matzah no heat matzah and we raise money to make sure those people have matzah you tell a person well your ovary money you don't get any MOT so could have businesses that that's our attitude to clio sell you don't have any money so go drop dead I don't care if you don't have any children because you can't afford the tuition prepared who cares about you how hard hearted could a you'd be to talk this way about another Jew who you know what every money so don't become from you nobody money don't go to the Shiva who cares I care I care like I said tears on every Jewish soul that isn't born because the parents are afraid of the tuition I care and every single you should care and if you can't think of a solution cry shed a tear say to Hill him Domon worry about those unborn children how Cavalier can we be when it comes to something so serious we care so little about other Yeaton yeah oh they don't have a parent to fill in my waist great-grandfather his mother died in childbirth it was his father's second wife he was already old he died when a great grandfather was six and he said I left message for you with the neighbor so that you'll have enough money to get on your feet so after he died he asked the neighbor he says I don't know what you're talking about he stole this little kids money he said they never complained I walked to the next town and I sat in the shul and that's where I lived i sat on that bench I slept on that bench after a few days people saw I was starving so they went to families in town they found five families that agreed to give me one meal a day and that was five days a week I had a meal the other two days I fasted and one day they come and tichel and they say I'm sitting and crying so what's the matter he says I don't have a pair to fill and it's my permits for today so they went to the seamus they found the parrot to fill in they fixed it up and they gave it to him they gave him the Lea that was his Bar Mitzvah and he sat back on their bench well we're gonna give this kid a spirit to fill it let him go out and get a job and earn it he should have a pair to fill it for what for what why should I care I bet a little kid who sang on a bench and can't afford a parrot's filling because I'm a Jew I have a Jewish miss Sharma that's why because my heart breaks if I see a you know there's Emily matzah my heart breaks that's why this can could the best girl do we go around and make sure that people have so yeah is there a problem there's a problem it's prom I went to start did I did a not a complete research I started looking at tuitions and different issue high schools almost every one of them was over twenty thousand dollars some much more and one of the schools said listen you you the parents demand a high level education and we have to provide this and we're not we have there okay so we have to charge a lot I'm not saying no but therefore we can't provide a Jewish education for Jewish children there's no solution so here's my solution here's my solution I wish I had the power to implement it but I will scream it from the rooftops because if I met a dozen parents who would like to have more children are afraid to I assume there are many more so there's some people don't care they don't care they'll have ten children now walking the tuition care committee and say I don't have any money and I said now other people who who who can't do it they just can't do it you know I was I was once talking in his school and they used to have fun Friday they would have like a little you know Tennyson I came in to speak you know other speakers come to speak and they would you know they would sing that and they used to serve these potato coulis delicious pathetic locals and one of them said there's a mother who literally has no money she's a homeowner and she bakes these potato kögel's to give something to the school because she doesn't feel right not giving anything that's all she can afford in that tuition potato cookers on Friday for the kids so here's my solution okay and I'll tell you to do it yeah we have to say this is a national priority that's what we have to say and what we do is we go to the people in Clio who have a lot of money and there are people in clay row who have a lot of money how do I know open up any Jewish publication and take a look at all the ads for Pesach hotels we're not talking the lake house anymore we're talking about we're gonna fly over here and we're gonna fly over there and we're gonna stay in the palace and we're gonna stay over here this you know and in three gourmet meal the finest speakers not all the finest speakers anyway but I am still available but I actually last yeah I had six offers for paisa and I told the boil the same thing I said only if I can bring my family so they said how many rooms is that so some people said you're out of your minds but some people said I really wish we could but we can't some people said oh we can work it out and I never heard from them again but I to me this course of going away to a hotel and not having my family with me is just not not worth it so if anybody wants to bring my family which Kanoa is you know it's growing anyway so we'd love to we'd love to come and help you program but if that I'm happy to stay home yeah so you know my do you know that the pace of hotel is a multi-billion dollar industry billion with a B yeah there's no money up it there's money out there and if we made this a national priority we have to be able to provide money that every kid can go to school without breaking a family no come on let's be honest okay you got four kids tuition is $25,000 a year okay call it 20,000 Asya that means after taxes you have to have $80,000 just to spend on tuition being comfortable is not enough you have to be rich if you want to pay tuitions or don't have so many kids or as when I was discussing this with a few people said that's where there were a lot of people have chosen to opt out and they're sending the kids to public schools this is not a national priority Sherman thought it was Yosh urban gamla thought it was how could we how could we be so flippant about something like this and so I'm throwing down the gauntlet like I say there were a lot of important people who listen to this podcast right not for this they were listening because they liked the jokes what can I tell you but but we have to be able to make this a national priority we'd have to say how are we going to solve this pump and to say it can't be solved there was Jewish education with boys that was done for girls Irish urban gambler didn't put it in for girls you didn't need to so then what happened in Europe his girls were going away to secular education and they were all going off the Dera this is by the way when we're talking about seminaries there were a number of girls who responded and said listen if I'm gonna go off to university and receive a high level secular education I need a high level Jewish education to deal with it I agree 100% yeah on the other hand I got one for my city sure girls says I don't know and the consideration will be not do this you know III don't know if they go to college Eva's I don't know but but if I'm gonna have to space it so we were losing girls so it was a seamstress in Krakow who said I know I'll start Jewish education for girls and she ran around to get daily Torah and get us hummus and she started the base yak of movement who solved the problem of a time hi Marissa hi Mariska the Guerra rabba know who's a seamstress from Krakow so you're telling me that there's no way there is no answer the big difference routine there's no answer and I haven't thought of an answer yet yeah and problems are challenges every door has their challenges when the Greeks introduced intellectualism to the world and they confronted the Jewish people we never needed to prove anything we knew it was true we had in the VM if we got stuck we knew what reality was and they came around and start asking us caches and caches and caches and that's how the church bell pen developed because we said either ABBA based on your cache and now I first understand how brilliant the Cazalas the Mitzvah is that what we started to see when the bull was replaced by the farm him but the genius yeah when when when Aristotelian philosophy was threatening the Jewish community the Rambam was able to stand up and respond to it when they're Korean the Karaites came to devastate the Jewish people so the gun stood up and fought them and argued with them and put them on their level when Stephanie humanism came along to try to destroy us she was her for hers came up with responses to them new new new new yeah there's a problem a problem is a opportunity for people who care for good people and I don't know who has the ability to do it like I said I'm one of the least connected people that I know yeah and and I know this much though yeah there are people out there who can do it and I'll tell you what we can do if you're a small person like me we can table we can shut it tear we can care sometimes people call me up and they says I have a kid off the Derek what can you do what your this I said I can cry for you I don't I don't have I don't have a magic pill that straightens people out you know I don't know what it is if I could bottle that I'd have something going but just because I can't I don't know how to solve the problem doesn't mean there isn't a solution night davon echoes borrow whoo yeah I took own a load em das you grant the person understanding problems are there for us to be able to solve and who will be the great of our generation who will finally cut this Gordian knot so that every Jewish child can get a pair to fill in a mezuzah to put on their door a piece of matzah to eat on paisa and yes a basic Jewish education I don't know if it came across but I'm I feel very strongly about this I know that I have a tendency to downplay how I'm feeling but I really feel very strongly and that's it for this week I I'm I'm gonna do something there's a change of pace next week to mix this up a little bit uh I have I have high blood pressure and diabetes heart disease I can't I can't get this excited every week I just you know I'm on too many medications but anyway it's mild that's it for this week you want to find out more about the shoulder to reveal a ski that con where you can add comments find out my upcoming event schedule and contact me directly I'm hopefully gonna be making a trip in the middle of February working on it so keep that in mind and if you want to find out about the new live online serum domi or miss Alicia sharp go to every Alaska comm slash live if you would like to sponsor an episode go to rally grab a Arlovski comm / sponsor and that's it for this week I'm Deborah Orlowski and this is a reverie Alaska show it's the rabbi Orlovsky show Turin symptom ready to go the rabbi Orlovsky show that one's your wisdom will help you grow lots of fun in every episode of we don't have to ride no it's the rabbi Orlovsky show a rabbi roll on skis.com so rough anytime you to mourn its rabbi Orlovsky show tourism way to go my lap ski show till it's time so we meet again 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