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100: Oh No, Not Them (Aliya pt. 4)

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hi this is dr alaska and welcome to the rabbi yolovsky show whether you're watching uh with our friends at or anytime or wherever you watch or listen to your podcast we're happy to have you along and uh there's a special sponsorship this week this show was sponsored in honor of rob yolovsky's 100th show my gosh i didn't realize this was 100 show that's very important because once a show goes into 100 episodes it's then available for syndication i hope you know that so now you can find this like on channel 9 you know 10 o'clock at night but be that as me nishmas rifka bas abraham by moshe and razil grossman and family dear friends love you we are so happy that you have this milestone but you continue to be zoe to inspire clow yourself and i've said it before and i guess this is a great opportunity to reiterate it i cannot thank you enough to everybody who listens including the people who really really don't seem to like me i get a few uh be fair the overwhelming amount of uh messages that i've received on this topic about has been overwhelmingly positive people say that's exactly my experience or thank you for raising this point i hadn't considered it and people raised other points could you talk about this or talk about this and then they're the miraculous people let me explain something to you okay abuse doesn't work on me it doesn't work i've been insulted by professionals my rebate amused to get to me all the time there's nothing you're gonna say that's gonna get inside of me i've been beaten up by professionals i was once in the middle of a controversy i know it seems hard to believe i was in the middle of a controversy and somebody writes to me because who do you think you are you're nothing but a third-rate seminary teacher i said that's not an insult that's a job description and no not even that so calling me names and stuff and accusing me and telling me i'm going to go to gahannam and all this guy it doesn't work on me you you're making a mistake you know it's it's one or two people you know i had to turn this off in the middle then don't watch it i think it's so great people watch it so that they can tell me how much they don't like it it's unbelievable i was going to write a a a book once a controversial sort of a book and then i was going to write the article condemning it because i figured why should somebody else make a few bucks off of my book you can tell me my book i'll condemn it myself because i'll get the money for the book and i'll get money for the condemnation article that's gavalic um my dear friend and mentor uh the legendary rabbi mendy gopin uh who i am so touched watches this podcast and uh he calls me afterwards to share his observations um so he said to me once next time somebody calls you the miracle and tell them call evan yoshua didn't deny that there were problems they didn't deny that there were problems of course there were problems yeah the question is can we do it and that's the point and there are people who've been writing me and saying you know well why don't you uh why don't you say something positive so full disclosure i did an entire video um years ago uh about the importance of making aliyah yeah that's i i said this in the first podcast but don't listen that closely people man here's what they want to hear and disregard the rest that's just the reality so um people didn't listen when i said this i said there are tens of thousands of people who are now considering aliyah that's who this series is for if you want to hear the arguments to make aliyah it's it's on youtube someplace i don't know exactly where the recording is um uh i'm sure now that i say this michael will put on a link because he is just the best i am surrounded by so many wonderful wonderful people i have a truly truly gifted life i have nothing to complain about yeah i do because evidently there's a lot of people like to watch that but you know but uh hashem so i'm sure i'll put up the link for you and i explain why it's a mrs isis mclean important and why you have to do it but the point that i made there was you have to consider whether or not to make aliyah and it could be that consideration is it's not correct for me where i am at this point right so the the crazies out there are writing me you know i mean you know uh anyone who lives with hustlers they don't have a god you're a little bit about a zombie feinstein wasn't innovative jakob kaminetsky was not an overvoter with iron cutler was not an overnight about a zoro yeah just just just don't okay just just don't go there okay so uh you know it's it's you know like this single-minded so i'll give you an example there are three things you're allowed to leave eritreal for a shidduch and to learn torah which means that in the absolute set of values learning toyota is more important than living in earth's job yeah having said that there are people out there who will tell you all you're supposed to do is simple earnest and you're not supposed to do anything else no you know don't waste your time learning working don't worry about this just sit and learn just sit learn whatever your problem is sit and learn and mysteriousness just for learning but listen i'm not doing a little secret not everybody's cut out for learning i know you know what to say today but there are some people who aren't when i was a couple time i there was a shiver of hanukkah lagoons i used to see when he would go with certain people and say listen this is not for you you should be doing something else some people took the advice and some people didn't but uh you know tamatara so when i say tamatara can i get cooler i mean sitting and learning is but it's not for everybody you have to know who you are you got to be real when you hear a terrible story should we do why else would you be watching this podcast a guy uh goes to his rebbe and he says listen i don't know what to do um i uh uh i went out with a girl and she says to me uh you know why do you want to sit and learn i didn't know what uh why do you want to get married that was the question why do you want to get married and i know what to tell her so he says tell her because i'm sick and tired of taking my whole life i took i took from my parents i took from my rebellion i took from my childhood and now i want to give beautiful answer yeah works well in a day 9 out of 10 times is not true but but it's definitely a great line yeah so the boy says let me think about it and he comes back and he says i can't say he says why not he says because it's not true so why do they want to get married he says because everyone knows you won't get a quality girl unless you're in yeshua so i have to stay here till i get married and then i can leave and go into my father's business you understand not everybody's cut out for this just what's called spanish bay so eritsel is an unbelievable thing you don't have to tell me i'm living here for 32 years but you got to be real i got a heartbreaking email from somebody who said i wish i had heard all this before i made aliyah we made aliyah with our family and we couldn't make a living and and then the kids got messed up in school and other problems and we ended up going back to america and every kid has a problem now so okay so i have these people who write me and say no we moved here and everything's great and everything's fine and the schools are wonderful and the progress is wonderful and then and then the driving is nice the people are sweet everything is terrific hashem i can't tell you that never happens that's wonderful yeah but that wasn't the overwhelming amount of emails that i received the overwhelming amount were i'm glad you raised these points listen to the best of my ability i'm never gonna lie to you i'm not gonna lie to you i don't believe in it not to sell a cause i think i told this story once i heard it from on a tape from remember reisman uh where it was in one of his navy show and he told the story he says a woman sent me a call corey and asked me to announce it that the good oil and herself assert ponytail he says i don't really know anything about jayla could if you told me that a ponytail schaetel is more sanur because it covers the back of the neck i would believe you too i i don't know but i recognized some of the names who were sawing then i called them up and they said check it off it never happened never happened she calls up the lady and says this letter is a forgery so she says all right if you don't want to announce at least don't speak against it so he says to his navigation of a thousand people so i'm not speaking against them yeah so am i gonna tell you that you should do this because everyone has to move towards so and everybody has to live here and everybody no not everybody can make it let's be real not everyone can make it to learning not everyone can make it in there so you got to be real and i'm a big believer in that you don't do anybody a favor by lying to them and pretending that there's no problems no problems that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to overcome the problems that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to face the problems but to pretend there are no problems and everything's great and everything's terrific there's no problems it infuriates me when i see people do this to other people i'm a young couple know they uh the the two sides of the family managed to buy them an apartment you know they were paying off a mortgage and he was sitting and learning and it was no money so he says to his rebate what do i do so you they told them they said uh okay so sell your apartment so you're gonna learn and he did and eventually that money ran out i had nothing did something i i'm telling you it's a beautiful story of seriousness and if the people are happy that's great if they're happy with time convention they somebody asked the question they said what do you do if the the job gets overwhelming and all the responsibilities are overwhelming you know and you're just not happy not happy doing so the rashiva said it's unbelievable this is the mind of a guddle the reshiva said if there are things that every now and then gets you down that's the eight hour but if you're constantly not happy no no i have to give some background with david leibowitz was sent to america by the time to save american judaism save jewry in america that was his mission and he gave his life for it according to many people he got sick and uh you know from all the mach like isis and all the problems he died very young and his son rebecca took over and he ran the issue with tremendous mysteriousness and his only goal was to try to fulfill his father's mission that he got from the khabit khan to be margaret tyrant and we were brought up with those values you'll come time if you if you if you i don't know about today like i'm talking about i you know i'm i'm i i i'm out of the issue for many years but you know but if you're going to go to a hybrid stop you have to you have some explaining to do lucy it's uh it's uh it's success it's expected of you you're gonna go out and go and be margaret stutter yeah and um and uh so uh so to him about this entire saving american jewelry was a was a priority and he said but if you're not happy leave the field because you have to be happy you have to be happy you know so if everything works out great my time with my name that's terrific i i said this uh before uh i'm sure in an earlier podcast but definitely bears repetition the bjoc of horowitz yeah [Music] one of the main mainstays of american reno um he wrote an article once that i read he said he says people ask how's claudius what's going how is things and i said it's like a fascinating if you're in the middle circle with the hustle and you're dancing ah it's you move to the next circle it's also good because you keep trying to get into the main circle it says then you're in the third circle the old people flopping along yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you're not so much dancing as ugly then there are people who are standing by the side then there are people sitting at the table and then there are people outside talking on their cell phones so if you're in the middle circle it's like they're going to go out like even in the second circle and uh i always point out the circles are concentric so as you move out from the center they get bigger so i have these people who say to me everything's great nothing's terrific and everybody's happy and everything's fine and there's good and i don't know what you're talking about what are you making trouble for i said i'll tell you why because i sit at the tables i watch other people on the tables and i see the people outside on their cell phones and i see the people schlepping around those are the circles that i see those are the circles that i that i dance in i very seldom make it into the center circle yeah so uh uh you know so how is everything going so if you come and everything goes well somebody wrote me this it was my uncle i think i may be misquoting i don't have it in front of me yeah so one of the things they gave him was a nephesh band yeah and uh he's carrying around with him and finally one storekeeper said you know when we see that big we overcharge you you know that right now for those of you who call me the morocco that never happened the whole thing is a lie i'm sure this person is lying in their email it never happened because anything that i don't like i have to pretend it doesn't exist and if you say anything that's uh that's that's true but negative you're the miraculous but would i be uh okay to tell you that don't carry around your nephew never back based on this story would that be okay yeah anyway i said at the very beginning of this series i'm talking to the tens of thousands who are considering aliyah not talking to the people who aren't considering aliyah that's not who this is for i'm not selling aliyah like i told you if you want to see that go watch the other video i'm saying that if you're making this go in with your eyes wide open don't be stupid yeah people go out there they go out dating they see problems love will conquer all no it won't it really doesn't every couple whoever got divorced were would tell you that of course this is the one you don't spend that much money on one evening if you if you don't think this is this is gonna work it's gonna be working with your eyes wide open you gotta be honest this is coming from a tummy you understand it took me many many years to get like this i was not this way i'm still not the essen honor everybody but be suspicious be suspicious so that's the only the points that i'm trying to make over here and uh um like i tell you i've been living here for for all these years and i think it's it's such a wonderful thing it's a beautiful thing but if a person is worried that i'm not going to be able to take care of my kids well a person is worried that i'm not going to make a paranosa or people are worried that i'm going to be in a society where i'm going to have all kinds of problems i've got emails like that too echoing what i said listen and and to those two or three people who write me you know who who think i'm the miraculous yeah i don't even know why i waste my time speaking to you i really don't you're a waste of time and i say that with love in my heart you know it's just it's just you you're like this you just don't get it you just don't get it yeah and you say i came and everything was great and everything was fine good you like those people i meet at the parenting seminars where parents are struggling with their children and there's always one parent who says you just have to set boundaries i tell my daughter we don't do that in our family and she says okay mommy and i tell her that she can't wear this and i tell her this and i tell like that whenever i tell her she says okay mommy wow you are such a brilliant did you think you guessed that so you came with this great idea i tell my daughter no and she says okay hey welcome to reality sometimes you tell your kids i'm like tibet but you can't pretend that doesn't happen anyway i'm sorry i don't know why i get myself excited there's no point no point i'm here for the major majority of people who are seriously thinking of making this move and i want you to come in with your eyes wide open not trying to discourage people but i'm trying to inform people and one person had what i thought was a very good idea they said okay so you pointed out certain problems that exist in the finished system so what are the options maybe you could bring somebody on to discuss the current options because i will be full disclosure i don't know all the options that exist all around the country right now and all the kind of things and that's an excellent idea i think we will do that but uh but for now i want to uh uh i want to address another problem another problem and two people wrote me specifically about this problem and asked if i was going to address it and i had in mind to address it and that's the following i made reference to this when i was talking about the system about the fact that there are tensions between survivor and ashkenazi it's not as bad as it was once upon a time but there is definitely a sense i'm full disclosure being honest there is definitely a sense among some areas of the ashkenazi community to look down upon the safari community that is just a reality yeah and it's not just in the religious community it's in the secular community that was one of the reasons shaas got started because they felt that they were being discriminated against in israeli society there were terrible stories uh that happened to spotting jewelry when they first came across um by the ashkenazi uh people in power and uh these tensions lie there and that was you know what with the shah's party basically uh came along to address the fact that not just uh religious fighters who suffered but most are very traditional very traditional and because of that you know the uh the haskalad didn't hit them the way that it did uh ashkenazi jewelry and so uh this is a lot of tradition my tradition you could see a guy who looks totally feeling me i i had a cab driver just fight here you know nothing totally killing me and i was coming back late at night and he says you know the radio body if i put it on i said no so he turns on the station that is broadcasting sleepovers and he's singing along with the sleek house and i'm like oh boy so their attentions their intentions now there are people who will tell you that's because there really are differences there really are differences and uh one one uh sparty individual wrote me and said listen that's because even among smartim there are the hierarchies of observance and we you know don't want if we're of the more observant smart him and the ones who are more uh into things we don't want to be around with the people who are not so into things that was the that was the feeling how was the feeling and uh he's speaking again as a swear deed anyway i'm not justifying it i'm just saying it's a reality i have a friend of mine who's uh who's svardi and he says you know he was thinking of moving to israel and i said you're not worried about any issues of discrimination and he says no i'm rich i said well that goes a long way it definitely does um there's uh there's a lot of tension and there is a tremendous amount of tension between the religious and the secular i read an article about an american uh girl came to israel she was secular and she wrote an article she says there were eight news stories seven of them were terrible stories about keratin the eighth one was about an earthquake and i said couldn't they find some way to pin that uh a uh a secular american sociologist uh wrote a book called the real jews and he says the level of hatred that he encountered he couldn't believe it and he says i was looking at a collection of political cartoons of chrism that were right out of the sherman the the the they were the anti-semitic caricatures that that anti-semites have used throughout history and they were being used by the creator uh and and listen you know they they put they presented in the in the knesset recently a video of the difference of how the police are enforcing the corona regulations among the religious and uh and among the secular and there was that painful video of this 13 year old girl who lowered her mask take a drink and two police run over and and and start abusing her until she burst into tears and when they saw people were filming they drove away she's sitting there with her two younger siblings one in a carriage and they juxtapose that with pictures of policemen and secular neighborhoods giving out masks now this is not surprising to us i mean we live here there was a rally some years ago against the oppression against the religious jews and uh i remember seeing uh an interview on israeli uh television they said these people are the forces of darkness they represent darkness and the real jews he tells the story he says they were making a minion at the back of the plane you know he said so i had to push past him to get to the bathroom okay okay inconvenience i i i'll be inconvenienced for people even though i'm not religious and you know and one of the stewards looks at me and he says i'll open the door you push him out i thought to myself who talks that way who talks that way why would you say that about another jew the levels of hostility are tremendous tremendous [Music] a friend of mine goldberg yeah he was on a bus that was blown up by a terrorist but uh he went to uh represent um israel in the trip to the federation united federation and so the group meets beforehand so they could all get together and he said there was tension because he was afraid he says why don't you like foreign have you met they said including you yeah one he says and am i like that no you're the exception how do you know you haven't met any i was going to speak at a birthright group and uh they said to me leave your hat in the car and i said if my hat stays in the car i stay in the car he says no it's just when these people see a black hat they make an association i said i know and that's what i'm trying to dispel it's uh it's painful painful to be the most incredible thing the same israeli who will ignore me at best and abuse me at worst in this country when i go to america and i meet them in in walmart or target [Applause] it's an amazing thing and there are many stories of israelis who move to america and they want their kids to learn hebrew so they end up sending them to the local day school they end up joining the synagogue because they want to they want to have some kind of jewish life here they don't have that problem and suddenly their attitudes begin to change it's an amazing thing so so between the religious and the secular between the the the sphere and the ashkenazim yeah and not so much anymore but once upon a time between the even between what they called the lichfisher you know yeshiva uh group and the khasirishi group that used to be these kind of fights and that was not so much there were there was a time when digo torah broke off from a good i think was 1992 or something there was all kinds of tensions like that but uh yeah you don't really see that today but um a little bit a little bit you know definitely among sometimes justice groups on their own there could be fights and arguments and you know and problems but okay that they have an american too [Laughter] but there's this and the thing is that whatever it is israelis ramp it up you know they move it up to a dead now there's a reason for that there's a reason for that israel is very intense i mean that in the best way yeah it's described as a land of hills and valleys and as somebody said well you're either going up or you're going down but you don't stay in the same place yeah my wife comes from two garden hills the difference between the hills and kilgourd hills and the hills in the arnold is unbelievable here you need equipment to get from one side of the neighborhood to the other my wife went to uh seminary invited forgotten and when we first moved here you know i had checked out the neighborhood beforehand you know and uh she's looking she's looking right at the the support walls here are larger than the buildings we had might have begun there's ups and downs there's no question about it life here is very intense listen you know it's very much life and death here you you so many of the people are in the army you know and like i say i have a friend of mine who was on a bus that got blown up you know terrorist attacks i live in hard north up the up the up the street for me was uh was the shul where where these uh terrorists came in and then started stabbing and shooting um it's right up the block for me i know the people it's uh it's amazing so yeah life is life is very real here i'll tell you a story i i grew up in new york and i moved out to la for a couple years again this was in the late 70s i don't know what la is today but when i moved out there new york was in the middle of a blizzard and i come out to la it's in the 70s they're palm trees you know i was staying in a hotel near the airport so this was kind of a bad neighborhood there were birds of paradise plants growing i mean it was just unbelievable and i rented an apartment yeah two-bedroom two-bathroom apartment furnished which of course meant that we had hanging wicked chair you know it's a bean bag in the corner you know it was so cool i was so happening two bedroom two bathroom furnished apartment with utilities 310 a month i had roommates i only had to pay 155 but you know it was and so many of the apartments i won't say all of them i don't generalize but many of the apartment buildings were built like a motel there was a big pool and the building was like a you around it and your apartment was these little doors to go into it look just like a motel and somebody told me that the furniture on the west coast you know in l.a is 40 percent lighter than the ones in the east because um people move so much same for just lighter a lot of wicker i guess i don't know but but i said compared to new york l.a was like just an extension of disneyland yeah that everything was really beautiful green grass and trees and it all looked like a hollywood set looked like i was gonna roll it up and take it away i don't know what it's like today but when i was there it was it was uh it was amazing so i said that that i felt new york was much much more real so um i come third so and trials and tribulations trials and tribulations don't get me wrong i don't regret it at all not for one day with all the problems i just i just wish i had known before what i was getting into but of course that would require advanced planning yeah but when i left my house was my brother bruce who's inside who uh has never denied it but i was under the impression that my father on his deathbed said take care of david because he can't handle anything himself i've asked him this directly he's never answered it but you know but um uh so uh he says i can't i said i came to your house after you left if you moved to israel yeah and it looked like a crack house that just gotta call the police on the way you know there was food in the freezer like a cigarette burning in an ashtray and i was like it was like everyone just picked up this stuff and ran to a certain extent that was true we we didn't do a lot of planning it wasn't if i would do it over again today of course it would be different i would at least plan and then probably do exactly what i did but at least i would plan it yeah but um uh you know so i i had no idea yeah anyway one time in the camp and the cab driver says which hotel are you in and i said uh i need garpo i told her [Laughter] and if you don't know what i'm saying just put on google translate or whatever and he says to me you live here are you crazy he says i'm doing everything i can to get a green card to get out of here and you moved here why would you move here so i went to the hebrew academy of national county it was a good sign to school so i just you know i knew my speech ready you know started humming hatha in the background the jews are returning to their land the children are coming home the land is our land you know so uh he says but there's but there's the wars and there's the terrorist attacks and there's the crime and there's the economy it's so difficult here so i told them my story about l.a new york and i said real life is always harder than make-believe that's one of the reasons that we don't believe in a honeymoon right a honeymoon you have the wedding the two of you get on a plane and you go off the disneyland or club med and you have a great vacation then you come home and you're like oh my gosh we don't do that in judaism we make you stay home surrounded by friends and family in small overheated apartments with little plastic chairs that are all next to each other eating breakfast and parva ice cream you know people making long droning speeches you know why because when you're in trouble those are the people who are going to be there for you mickey mouse isn't going to come and help you it's your family and friends that's what reality is we try to be very based in reality so i said real life is always harder anyway we we piss a husset on the street and he says you see him he hates my guts i said i don't know if he does or he doesn't but i know that i have a brother who hates my guts but i would give up my life for him and he turns which is unfortunate because he's driving he turns and he looks me and he says and i would give up my life for him and i said we are one sick dysfunctional family yeah he has a lot of tensions in society but when i go back to america and everybody's very polite to me i know that they would kill me in a second and that's why i always say let the person who hates me be a jew yeah jews have a certain rahmanis that you just that you just don't find i was on a naked bus and he stops in the middle of the street and the people in the back are screaming the people in front of check it check it i was like guys what's going on so look at the window it's hard to believe this would happen in any other country maybe it would i don't i don't can't say the driver stopped and he there was a blind man he stopped in front of his house and walked into the to the street gotham to the sidewalk and got back into the car when i came here in 1975 a pregnant woman walked onto the bus an older person walked on the bus he jumped up immediately and gave him to see it wasn't even a question like i say things have changed or catching up to other countries a friend of mine was on a bus and this pregnant woman comes on and she's standing there so the hug stops the buzz and goes here lady take my seat so someone's like okay okay [Laughter] listen i've got terrible stories when they get bus drivers also i could tell you terrible stories too but this is something about yes are we a dysfunctional we are let me tell you something you know grave desecration bad thing 100 yeah uh in most countries in the world grave desecration is illegal in israel you're allowed to describe graves if they're old and they're in the way there was a story here in israel where they came on an old jewish graveyard and uh the chief rabbi of jerusalem had been brought into germany because they found an old jewish graveyard where they were going to build a mall and they called him the cheap rabbi and he says you can build it but you're going to have to put it on stilts and you'll have to do it like this and the whole thing and they said it's going to add to our course but we'll do it not to desecrate a graveyard so they were building a highway here in europe i am and uh they came to a graveyard so teddy college says i'm as good as the germans i'll bring in the chief rabbit to decide so he studied the problem and he says you can build the overpass but you're gonna have to move it here and you have to do this and teddy says forget it came in the middle of the night broke up all the grace took all the bones put him in sacks took him off to the rockefeller museum the supreme court passkind here in israel that a jewish cemetery is not a holy spot you could take the bones out it was so interesting when this took place so um uh so somebody went over and threw paint on yetzkerbin's grave they arrested him and and the guy said how long does someone have to be dead before it's okay to desecrate their grave anyway this is a uniquely israeli experience so there was they were doing construction by a graveyard and there was a demonstration and the police came in and i have to tell you this this is documented go and go on online and check it out um israeli police are very violent yeah um there was a guy who was in a right-wing demonstration and it was filmed policeman stuck two fingers in his nose and ripped it open it was filmed uh i i was teaching in yeshiva and this is when there were demonstrations on baillon and uh these guys were coming back from shabbos a van they weren't even done by a line they were on the side street has van of policemen come up with billy cubs and stuff beating them it's just mathias and the demonstrations just now in remember you know somebody uh said to said to the cop you know why aren't you wearing a mask and the guy punched him in the face it's a video about police brutality yeah so they start carrying signs karate lives matter but um uh but there was uh uh you know a certain level of violence anyway so these people are demonstrating oh the policeman comes in they start beating them with clubs throw them into the van drag them off to jail now here's the thing these people who are protesting grave desecration are also part of the organization that when there's a terrorist attack they collect the body parts because they take they take a jewish death very seriously whether the person is already dead or has to be buried true story so they beat up these guys throw them in the van take them to jail and then there's a terrorist attack so the policemen take them out of jail put police vests on them put them back into the same van and drive them to the terrorist side to collect the body parts knowing that tomorrow will just switch sides again it's it's crazy it's crazy we i think it was matty burger who observed you know in america there are two parties in england there are three four parties in israel there are 20 parties four right-wing parties three religious parties you know uh you know the three left-wing parties nobody can get along there's this tremendous amount of tension and for people who are more easy going and it's rough it's rough now i have to say to a certain extent the more americans move here the more the sensibilities are changing because we're by nature more tolerant we're more tolerant and uh and uh we don't get no some people obviously do right right the two or three crazies will keep writing the hate mail obviously if you compare ireland it's rarely lies down americans we we we have much more of a live and let live kind of an uh attitude it changes the generations but you know there's a certain this is a certain uh culture that comes with that so um these tensions exist they're real and uh and it's painful it's it's painful when you see kids walking down the street and they run away from the police because they're afraid of them you know officer joe you know walking down the street twirling his billy clover hey there billy and here you know they might just come home punch in the face or beat you with a billy club you're not even doing anything it's uh it changes perspectives changes perspectives so uh that's enough it's a rough thing now things are changing things are getting better there's no question about it but um people who are soft-hearted might find it a little rough like i say you know um always used to say to me uh one person changes the world avril vito was one person he changed the world if he saw salanta was one person one person can change the world and we can make the world a better place so we can make israel a warmer more tolerant place but if you're coming in uh like it's interesting that in israel tommy is a bad word yeah he's a dummy he doesn't know any better yeah you gotta you gotta know you gotta know that there are certain problems that exist in society and i've got some more to talk about next week but i do think that's an excellent suggestion that we're going to bring in some professionals to talk about the current situation and it shall be these different these different issues and again i'm i'm only here to to uh to let people know that there are issues not to say therefore therefore i don't have to consider it of course you have to consider it that's why i'm talking to people considering it they ask me what do i have to be afraid of what should i take into account yeah so we're just going to we're talking about issues issues and that's it i went over time i don't know why i don't know why i went over time so uh everyone should uh should be well stay well and uh you know what can i tell you as they say in motel 6 we'll leave the lights on for you so if if you feel like i really want to make my life here in earth's shell then [Music] there are no obstacles no problems there are challenges that we need to overcome but uh if you're not so uh gung-ho [Laughter] then you should know beforehand that there are issues and make sure that you're prepared okay that's it for this week if you want to find out more about the show you go to rubylovsky.com you can make a comment uh you can contact me you can sponsor an episode and uh you can uh after tishbob you can listen to the jingle and that's it for now my name is deborah 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