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okay good morning
can i give you thank you
so uh we're going to be continuing what
we're learning last week
and the topic was uh israeli
independence day in terms of our
attitude and whether one may say hello
let's just briefly review some of the
arguments we gave last week we began
with what the sicilia ezra said and
that in 1967 a a rabbi and a moshav
asked him whether that moshav was
allowed to say hello for the miracle
that occurred that they were spared from
the uh
the oncoming
arab army and uh that cecilia first said
that he suggests that they include their
halal in a general burkha sagaima
that somebody should be appointed to be
uh go up to the almond and say
um
based his sock on a mice that happened
in the times of sam seifer where the
sephora also uh did such a thing then
the title yesterday gave an argument not
to say hello because he said it would be
improper while many uh jews are
suffering the loss of the relatives who
fought to defend the country and they
themselves were still reeling in pain
and in suffering for from their children
or their friends and family it would be
inappropriate for uh other year then to
be singing halal i mean how could it be
some people are mourning and some people
are singing hallo and we brought in the
argument of rabbi yosef that that would
be analogous to that which we say that
on
you now to say
because
then we brought in another argument from
the tzitzel yes and that is based on
what we say in guinness that we're not
authorized to establish a new day of
mourning for the tragedies of the
crusades because
once a certain period in jewish history
has ended we're no longer authorized to
add new days new days of commemoration
new days of memorial and in fact that
says eliezer
makes reference to the concept of the
rosh hashanah that says that if many
original days of mourning are ended
we can add new days right we quoted the
letter of
said that for anyone in this generation
to get up and be que veya to establish
to be guys there to make a new day that
comes from a fundamental lack of
understanding of our unworthiness and
our the fact that we're full of sin
compared to earlier generations okay
then we got into a halachic reason now
we're going to
begin again this week this is
number 12. and this comes from the
in
and let's take a look again
and basically that argument was based on
the fact that we are only authorized to
say hello for a miracle that happens for
all of claude israel not for a small
section of claudia so not for the
majority of kalisa you need all of
claudius
that's the argument of the qidah look at
number 12. we read it last week in the
now we're going to see the synopsis in
the sha's of truth
number 12.
we find further
s
that we say hello for every sorrow that
we shouldn't have to face
israel
it has to be a miracle that happened to
all of kaiser and that is why for some
reason you could look through the shanar
you could look through the rambam you
could look through the rift nowhere do
they bring down that if a miracle
happens you say hello
why does the rambam leave out that why
does the rift leave
why does
you know why because it's not irrelevant
because once the goddess happened and so
scattered all over the world there will
never be a miracle to all of christ so
it's impossible that's why they leave
out
because it's not relevant ever to say
hello for a miracle it's just an
irrelevant
that's what he does
countless times in jewish history
miracles happened in jewish cities
or in jewish countries
and they even made yamantai them the
yeshikawa yamataviyan by beyond vietnam
even made megillos there are cities that
composed books of chronicles that they
read on the day the miracle happened we
will never find throughout two thousand
years of jewish history until 1948
anyone who had the audacity to think to
say hello
this is 200 years ago
a miracle happens to a city you could
say that's the opinion
but we don't agree to the mirror the
rush the rift around them they disagree
the haki
why didn't the raman put down that when
the miracles of uh mashiach come
we're going to say hello
perhaps because what day are we going to
say hi and say hello every day well that
may be true we're not going to have to
remember yatismith with the same
obligation because of the miracles of
mashiach but is there going to be a
specific day that we say hollow perhaps
not perhaps not doesn't
ask the question why we don't say how
well on forum and the memorians is
because it's fitzgerald
yes
it doesn't give any of these answers
well no no why because there was a
miracle for all of clarison
because all of kaiser was endangered
because ah the verse
right every last jew is in danger so you
can't give this argument over there
right because it was it purim taka was a
miracle for allah
right so it's a good point but but yeah
that would be the one exception where it
was an s to
on our
own what kind of fillers for example uh
let's say they
made it so that you can take all the
sugar
every day
you should say
no
no you can so we do it every day here
you know let's say in fact it gets to a
point now that children think that this
is part of the darwinian already
that's why the gura even writes
hashem all that can't say
it so
on the other hand there are certain
hundreds of years of tradition that sort
of
you know we started here
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and now
well let's see those yeah that's the
landing i mean
yeah they say
in the uh yeah
every single day or during certain
periods of time i know let's say yeah
they will make you know if there's a
danger in arizona they'll say say
capital
right every day but there are tools
is
you ask you know people bigger than me
about uh you know i didn't instituted
and i'm not questioning it whatever was
uh instituted but that's cool
before chris
if necessary
if necessary but to make a takkano that
every single day there's a new part of
davening i think it was a trouble and
that's as well so we started saying it
and we didn't stop saying it
but it has to be clear that it's not
part of this
it has to be clear it's not okay
here's a big question you asked about
for him
how could you say hello on hanukkah
was hanukkah a miracle that happened to
all of khalifa absolutely not
absolutely not
hanukkah was in times of when
second base had made us there were jews
already in europe all right so how could
we use it
good but we're learning now you can only
say hello if it's all of cloud
so how could you say hello hanukkah but
even in
the rory jews in in in europe correct
um
in the times of purim he ruled over the
whole world so oh everyone was in danger
the jews in bara park even in the times
of purim were in danger
but in the times of
what
by the time
she didn't rule over
absolutely absolutely he
means everything it was like
he never ruled in spain sure he did
absolutely gemara says in fact if some
sofa says on the opening of the megillah
why do we need tanaka ruled over the
world
that was the whole miracle of purim that
he ruled over the world why because if
he wouldn't have ruled over the world
let's say he would have ruled over the
whole world except for monroe so then
you know what maybe he would have been
successful in carrying out his plot
because hashem could have said you know
what they'll still be jews but now that
he ruled over the world and hashem
never destroyed claudius so hashem has
to save us so the biggest miracle of
purim was possible
yes
now it can't happen that's what some
server says but what about
the greek empire did not spread over the
whole world so why don't we why are we
allowed to say hello okay
he asked this question
and you know he answers he gives a good
terrorist the hate divasher curse of
shamble targets us he answers very
nicely
you're right
khannaka was not for all of kaiser but
the kivan show your rights in mahakarab
since the greeks wanted to destroy the
basha mikdash saras call israel makeri
that's considered a tragedy for the
entire jewish people
the kivan shlain nakarav had solas
since the temple was not destroyed
hat solas call you almighty that's
called the salvation of holy islam
is bothered by a question if you can
only say hello for a miracle the heavens
parole of khalifa how could you say
halal on chanukah the answer is you're
right there were jews all over the world
but it was a tragedy for all jews
because they wanted to destroy the base
hamikdash and it was therefore a
salvation for all of kaiser so here you
can say the same thing and the earth
israel is belong to all the jews
okay
to be intellectually honest that might
be a good point
that maybe you can make the same case
that
if pharisee swirl is in danger of being
in the hands of the
and then we gain a certain control over
israel could we not make the same case
then that this is considered yeshua for
all of kai as well
but on the other hand
it's not a matter of
it's just a matter of control of the
land
did the nation's world want to destroy
arts israel no they wanted it for
themselves so to extend the same logic
to 1948 maybe but it's a stretch it's a
stretch it's not the same thing as they
wanted to destroy the base to make this
after all we know the ramadan right
samara
that why doesn't the torah tell us where
the bay samitis is going to be built
right look throughout the hamish doesn't
say where the where is the basement
the place that i choose why doesn't
hashem say it's a new shalom
because if hashem would have said where
you shalom is and where the way
something is going to be all the 12
shots would be fighting over it we want
it we want it done would say we want it
after he would say we want it so hashem
left it undecided until the final moment
so the truth is based on mikdash belongs
to everyone right there's an opinion
like
but to extend it to knight to
independence as opposed to
foreign sovereignty
it's not exactly the same although you
could stretch it i could hear such a
thing i can't argue if you want to say
well the fact that i saw was under the
dominion of the golem and now it's under
our control could we not say that that
would be a salvation for allah okay but
the the better is built on on the on the
land of binyamin
no
it's built under shiva but in terms of
itself
was it
in other words yes you shall i am half
of it is in yehudas and half of it is in
vinyaman but who owns it
who owns the vasa
public property
it's not you can say yehuda owns it or
it's in you who does territory it's in
his airspace but he doesn't own it it's
an international zone right
international exactly exactly
okay
let's just see one added point that the
qidah makes and the kida says
opinion was not to say hello for a
miracle
but he says even if you want to say
hello
beyonce
even though we should really parallel
the way the original hell was set up and
that is right after
all
concepts of prayer are built and found
in al adenair
on the pillars of the secrets of the
world
in other words if we want to know the
positioning of the thela why does rasha
amar and then
haidu and then mizmar al-asada and then
and then if you wanted to know why that
progression tremendous secrets
tremendous kabbalistic meaning we don't
know what it is every
the flow of the tefila has tremendous
soyuz in it so if you're going to insert
a halal on a day that halo should not be
said
who knows what you're doing to the world
no you know the way i look at it is like
um
imagine if you know you took an atom and
you have you know protons and neurons
and you just wanted to slip something in
between
you blow up the world
blow up the world
so what fila is not as powerful of
course it's more powerful so you want to
and you want to insert something what
you're a nuclear physicist if you're a
nuclear physicist you can insert
something in the atom if you're not a
nuclear physicist you're you're meshuga
to certain anything
if you don't know the power of the tv
the way it feel was formulated based on
the reason
and you're going to start slipping in
this political thing to
you have to be insane you have to mean
that
you have no right to do that because
you can't tamper with the tv
the cabanas
it was all
established with great secrets
were able to do it
they were nuclear physicists they had
the hidden secrets
200 years ago we're simpletons
it's like a guy who walks into the
nuclear room oh what's this button
right so i think you should say hello
what would you know about the way that
philo's position okay
and then he says like this says the tits
i like the way that concludes
that you know what i suggest
look on the third line in the last
paragraph says
may be there right now right i praise
the rabbanimen uh levarno
shakasha iran
in the year
it happened in sara's harass there was a
big earthquake beneath soilu and they
were saved what did they do
they didn't make halal they established
that on that shabbos they're going to
get health got to come in and when they
get up to kuf
they're going to sing it with a nice
they're not adding anything
they're saying the regular tourist
villain they're going to give special
attention with a nice into the
hala hagado bimakum
the same place
i say the same thing that if you want to
celebrate the miraculous salvation don't
say hala on a different day
when you say hello you'll put a nice
tune to the words you know hoydu
and yoitzuzain that's how that's the
conclusion of the hida
rabbavadji yosef is not persuaded by
this by the way
at the end of schwann estrella because
who are we to insert it
so revad yourself this is the number
thirteen in the mass of adja he's down
on the tenth line when we call malcolm
nirlan
writes some lamer hollow if that zebra
wants to say hello you see these words
he doesn't say the rabbi should get up
and say you want to know what to do i
think you should say hello no yourself
says if you're a rabbi
takifa you have a strong hand you should
get up and say don't say hello but not
everyone is in that position so if the
zebra wants to say hello beloy bracha
adam don't throw tomatoes
after right because
what's the proof because don't be so
such a stickler for the don't say by
inserting hollows like you're destroying
the atom
don't we do that
insert hello so you say we have to say
hello no we don't have
just a minute
three quarters of the shoe leaves and
then you have hardly 10 people who say
allah
they're smart they don't know
correct but you said it according to
this oh you know you can't you can't
have both ways
i don't know i that i never saw
i never saw that announcement do it you
won
no would they announce you know whoever
wants to say it said whoever doesn't
want to say that after this they
finished sure
okay
the badges says like this brother says
we do the same thing on
that we've been saying hello for you
know 1800 years
if they could do it then don't throw
tomatoes at the people who do it either
he does
says
this is a kabbalistic reason that's for
those who know so if you're making
you're not going to say hello but we're
not going to start protesting based on
the kabbalistic reason not to say hello
again this is based on this reason
bavaria is not saying don't protest he's
saying if you want to protest because of
this reason al-qidah that you're not
authorized to tamper with the twila
ravages says that wouldn't be a strong
enough reason to protest
okay
let's move on a little another reason
that's all for this reason is offered by
the situation it's offered also by rabbi
yosef why not to say hello on on a day
that a miracle happens for
with which upon which miracle do they
establish it because of what miracle
who remembers what the gemara answers
the war right
now foreign
doesn't say a word about the war
what does the gemara say
let's see the gemara
can we put the camaro on the sheets
i
shouldn't the mishna mention something
you know i asked this question
is there anywhere in the mission that
says you have to wear twillion no does
it say anywhere in the mission you have
the words
no all it starts is when do you have to
say krishna whoa wait wait a second
before when say you have to say it
says everybody knows they have to say
so everybody know you had to light the
menorah so so what do you want to tell
me you want to tell me the story
everyone know this so random says it was
it was well known it was well known
element there are few added halachus
okay there's more to say about that but
okay the gemara says like look at number
four my hanukkah
on the 25th day of kiss slave what
happened
we don't eulogize we don't fast
the greeks entered the temple tim
they
sully they
one flask of oil with enough
oil to last for one day and it lasted
for what eight days
as the maritz look at number 16
just very briefly
wait a second
why does the gemara say the miracle was
they had enough oil to ask for one day
and it lasted for eight days the gemara
ship said simple the miracle was they
found it
they found it i mean
99.9 percent of the maybe hundreds of
flasks
were impurified so why did they make
america why didn't they celebrate the
fact they found it
you can use it but the gemara doesn't
can use it in a regular chairman that is
uh okay that's also a good question
the fact that they found the tahara one
so you can ask that what the kumar says
also what was the miracle you didn't
need a miracle come ahead it's seven
days
so what we didn't eat it what would
happen if they wouldn't light it they
need we'd like for a different oil oh
yeah yeah so sesame seeds i'll ask you a
different question why does the gemara
not say a word about the military
victory look throughout shots there's
not one word about the military victory
you know what the answer is because the
military victory has nothing to do with
hanukkah
because we don't what's hanukkah what's
the main thing we do in hanukkah
manila
do we do melaka
of course so what's hanukkah hal
so what is a military victory have to do
with hallow you can't say hala for a
military victory a military victory
as outnumbered as you may be
it's couched in the natural process you
have big guns you have big bazookas the
other guy is not a good shooter you
shoot him down bam pal
and you win i but there are ten thousand
year five did anything change did the
moon move out of its place did the kris
yamsa split did nature change no so if
nature didn't change and chanukah is
about how well military victory has
nothing to do with halo you cannot say
hello for anything that resembles the
natural process
that's what the russians says look at
number 16.
says
okay he says like this he was uh the
miracle that he knows the torah yeah
it was very difficult for him to learn
in the beginning
yeah that's the story he says like this
oh yes a little different why didn't
they celebrate why don't they why don't
we say it's a miracle that they didn't
make that flask of oil tummy why isn't
that the miracle vigamar should say you
know what the miracle of hanukkah is
that that flask of oil didn't become
tummy says
doesn't mention a word about the
military victory sigmar doesn't mention
a word about the fact that it was
miraculous that they didn't make that
flask of otame
what do we see from here
look he says
we're not authorized to say hello for
hidden miracles but what do you mean it
was so amazing the jewish people had a
small army in the times of hanukkah 13
men
against thousands of people
but it's not a obvious miracle it's
couched in nature it's couched in teva
and since it's couch intelligent you're
not authorized to say hello
and what in 1948 all of a sudden it was
a murder it was an open miracle sir it
wasn't an open miracle
you had jews who were maybe uh renegades
or they they were not fully equipped
against the big army yes
certainly hashem was on their side
certainly it was miraculous but was it
an open miracle
obviously not no nobody would claim that
open miracles happened nobody would
claim that nature changed nobody would
claim that the moon moved out of its
place if that's the case you can't say
hello that's it finished finished but i
want to say hello good good wonderful
but you can't
put it in
these cells
what what they put oh so why do we say
hello
for the oil because that was an open
miracle there's only enough to last for
one days and it lasted for eight days
there was nothing natural about that so
therefore what the gemara's asking is my
hanukkah what are you saying hollow for
it's not for the military victory
because you can't say hello for a
military victory it must be for the oil
we could be grateful for it certainly
you could be grateful for it but halo is
a specific thing
were there open miracles
yes
but not a miracle you could say hello
for was it more miraculous for the
victory of the kashmir over the evening
no it's hard to make that case the
kashmir were all 13 people
right though whatever they are good and
the israeli army they were you know much
much larger than that
hanukkah was certainly more of an open
miracle than 48
now they do
there was which ones
the secular
we'll see we'll see
no miracle is a generic term it's hard
to in terms of it being a miracle to say
hello no one can make
no one could make a logical argument
that it was more miraculous than
hanukkah nobody could say that could
anybody say that
anybody really say honestly that
hanukkah was more miraculous that 194 is
more back than hanukkah how you can't
say no
and hanukkah the gemara says you can't
say halo 4.
well why you cannot say that why not now
what's the reason why you can't say
hello for a natural thing so this is a
very important exercise and this is the
gemaran chaba number 19.
looking at number 19. the gemara says
like this
i wish that i would have a share and
those who say hello every day
aye the goomaras
the master said hakoye halab
zamakari from agade
says halal every day is a blasphemer you
hear this you have a guy who says
he's saying blasphemy says he committed
himself to zimmer you could save sukita
zimmer every day you can't say halal
every day
says the gemara why
what does the gemara mean why can't you
say halal on an ordinary day says shah
if you say hello every day what are you
what are you praising god for every
single day you're praising him with the
halal that means you're praising him for
the natural process as if to say
god can't change it
but if you say hala and you reserve it
for miraculous events then what you're
saying is god could supersede the system
if you say halal every day you're only
praising god for the system he put into
place when you reserve halal for
supernatural you're saying god could
override the system so if you're going
to say it every day you're a mecca
you're a blasphemer as if to say god
could only run the system he can't
override the system but we still say
so what would you say what chanukah the
military victory was the nissan gloom or
nissan
it's a nation
1948 you would say it's a nice galois
you can't say that you can't say it but
how could you say it's more of an open
miracle than the military victory by
sanika you see five nations going
against one little puny nation and they
win
something's gotta be amazing it's i'm
not it is it's a hidden miracle
but again in hanukkah there were 13 jews
fighting the war
against hundreds of thousands of people
so how do you explain that
certainly is a miracle but it's not an
open miracle
if it was an open miracle then the gamer
would have said on chanukah you say
hello for the military victory i mean
that's uh that's that's
as strong as nils you can't budge that
but with miracle but you don't say how
well yeah that's what we're saying we're
saying there are two types of miracles
are we here denying that it was no we're
saying it was a miracle couched in
nature and we're just saying we just
don't say howard correct
but when we say it's not the type of
miracle you're authorized to say hello
foreign
we're not here to judge anyone we're
just here to
give the halachic arguments
we're not finished we still have a lot
to do here
we have a long way to go but
it said only the fight doesn't talk
about the the mana the lighting
because in modem what are we thanking
hashem beautiful oh so
we don't mention this because my dam is
not a hollow my dim is thanking god for
hidden miracles we say thank you i could
breathe thank you my heartbeat thanks
the sun rises and thank you for the
military victory but we're not going to
thank him for the oil it's not the time
to thank for the oil maiden is not for
for the supernatural modem is for the
natural
so it fits in beautiful hallel is for
the oil my dim is for the uh well the
mind is for the uh it's beautiful i
never i didn't realize that before but
it comes out very nice
to compose a
molding for
for 67.
oh do you think that could be sanctif is
the rabbis with sanctified and allowed
to be studying
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there's a proton here and there's a
neuron here that would be if you shall i
miss here
you're going to
what he's saying is even to inject it
after schweinster is tampering
even saying it
okay we still have a long way to go now
takes this a step further in an
interesting safer that he wrote called a
terrorist suvi
maisha number 15.
number 15.
we're going backwards
are you ready to say something okay
we're gonna have to do a lot of uh
unteaching
of of our youth to learn uh the history
of
israel and the history of our nation it
wasn't a miracle that was not there was
an oil
there's a lot of excitement and a lot of
the enthusiasm generated by uh the story
the way we tell it and i'm gonna tell
you as well we found an extra
an extra flask of uh we're not
saying not to say hello is not trying to
minimize the enthusiasm we're not trying
to use halal as a political statement
and we're not trying to not say hello as
an anti-political statement it's a
matter of technical halacha there are
certain things you say hello for certain
things you don't say halal for it's not
a matter of your allegiance to the
country it's not a matter of your
feeling of the importance of israel it's
a matter of understanding the hillary
process the
process has specific requirements to say
hello and one of them is it has to be a
change of nature
and a war as miraculous as it may be is
not a change of nature
if you have three guys with guns
shooting a hundred guys with guns and
the three win are you going to say it's
an open miracle the gemara in chaba says
hanukkah's military victory was not an
open miracle
i think you need to speak to rabbi
okay
let's see
i think continues
um so the mauritius says
that this concept of only saying halal
for an open miracle
is what we see clear in the gemaran
chandras when the gemara says
the milita the the miracle of the oil
and then the maritzkies takes it further
okay very interesting very interesting
the gemara says in the rosh hashanah
and that's
in the second paragraph we don't say
halal on rosh hashanah
anyone here say hello
the books of life and death are open
you're going to sing la la la la la and
god is you know judging your life
says there's a deeper meaning
what is halal halal is
god could change nature
what happened on rosh hashanah
god created the world he created man he
set nature into motion
to start singing that god could change
nature the day he created nature
is incongruous it doesn't make any sense
it's as if to say god you know the
nature you created wasn't good you had
to supersede it you had to change it
how could you dare say halal on rosh
hashanah which is the day that god sent
nature into motion
as if to say god you know the nature you
send to motion it doesn't really work so
well that's why you have to change it no
you want to say hello different day on
the calendar fine not the day that god
created the world rosh hashanah is the
day he created the world it's the day he
set nature into motion why would you
praise him that he could change it as if
to say there's something lacking in
creation that's what he says he created
from also foreshadows
what before shabbos that day also he
created the nissan yeah but
to get you know allow
allow the natural process to work first
it's as if he's saying is to say hello
would be to say hashem that which you
created
there's nothing wrong with it because
you immediately had to change the system
no hashem changes it if necessary if
needed that's it's an interesting
thought very interesting thought and
then he goes on to say hey are you ready
for this
he goes on to say
that remember when yaakov avina was
wrestling with the sari shalesa with the
ministering angel of asap and the
ministering angel laser says sorry
yaakov gotta go adios right gotta leave
why
my day came to sing shira
well that's a good excuse he came up
with jaako is wrestling with imagine you
know you're in the you're in a boxing
match and all of a sudden you say gotta
go i have to say hello i haven't said
hello yet i mean that how do you come up
with that excuse
me you know you're in class the
teacher's like did you do homework sorry
i didn't say hello yet you're
right all of a sudden this
he he says i haven't said hallo since i
was created and now all of a sudden he's
wrestling with yakov now of some he has
to go and say hello well what happened
what happened so the maurizio says like
this
when a person is born
he should really say hello he's born
into this world he opens his eyes he
sees the sun rising
wow how who's pulling the sun where's
the string i don't see a string causing
the sun to rise you should say hello
right do you know why we don't say hello
because we're born in this world without
any seiko without any intellect and we
don't realize what's happening so by the
time our saha is fully developed we're
already used to it but that's the only
reason we don't say and once we're used
to it it's a natural process we can't
say hello anymore but
come into this world with full sacha
fully developed that is why
the moment the mallet is born he says
hello
why
because all of a sudden he sees the sun
rising the sun setting the water process
evaporation photosynthesis he's shocked
by the miracle of it he says halal but
on day two he realizes this is a natural
process he no longer says how
adam harishon was born what
fully developed with complete safa that
is why the day that he was born what did
other mauritian do
ms marshall
he said
he said shira
but we weren't born that way we're born
without seika and that's how we don't
say this
he said shira the first day of his life
but he hadn't sang shira since he meets
a human being like yaakov
who is able to elevate himself so much
that he could be greater than an angel
the angel says wow the natural process
has been changed now i have to say hello
very interesting approach from the
mauritius but what we're learning from
him is the concept that halal is only
authorized to be said for an open
miracle
rabbi look at number 17
that sits eliezer
that sits eliezer um
quotes the maritzkios word for word
and he concurs with this approach look
five lines from the end from the first
paragraph to number seventeen the
tselano after quoting them
only on a complete miracle
leaving mitzrayim
blood grasshoppers lice frogs those are
open miracles splitting of the sea those
are open miracles clouds of glory those
are open miracles okay
but if there's even a little bit of
nature in it
oh you ready for this
this is also a very strong argument
in the times of the second temple the
jews return to aras israel they gain
independence they gain what we call
atzmios
is there any memorial day to commemorate
the jewish people's return in the time
of the second temple no
didn't when did more jews return to
israel 1948 and tour in the times of
ezra
48 the ramban says
most jews did return the times of ezra
that's not necessarily the authoritative
opinion we learned to come and hurry us
last summer that only minority of jews
returned they're unbanned and some
resham learned the majority of khalifa
returned
why is there no
holiday commemorating the return from
the goddess in this time of the second
temple
we weren't happy that we did we gained
there to smile
that's only because tish above was made
for a specific reason that no longer
applied but there was no day
commemorating as a holiday
why didn't they establish hallow
why don't they establish hello you know
why says it's
because when there's
when the natural process is involved you
don't commemorate and you don't say how
so bachelors bring up maybe because they
knew it was temporary they knew that
regionalists and ibishits and biafra
we don't find that any memorial day was
established or that they they
established hello uh
right
to get makusho said when the way she's
built it's a salvation for all of kali
israel oh yeah so why'd they say hallow
the day they built the second base
and according to
most of kaiser was there
the
national history
because it was natural
how about
if one city wants to set a date not for
all of kalasong let's say there's one
moshaven that wants to say we were saved
on
and that was the day the arabs
surrounded us and hashem made a miracle
for us could we make a holiday just for
us
yes
as a private thing as a prime minister
you can establish for all of kaiser but
we find the rambam
some cypher we find that when salvation
occurs to one individual or a small
group of people as a private thing they
could make no hallo no halloween
when they built the first place in
english now
no
all right
okay
and he goes on to say look on number
page six okay page six
the bottom paragraph on the right hand
side this is something to say from masa
iwaya masa ibaja is a collection of
and uh and shirim from abravadio seth on
uh contemporary issues
number six
okay
page six
in the independent form is
if let's say the jewish people would
have attacked the iran and the arabs
would have suffered casualties and the
jews would not have suffered one
casualty then you can make the case it
was an open miracle but that's not the
case
there were jewish lives that were lost
the community
many precious lives were lost in qibla
even
okay
this is this is what we'll call part two
of the share
part three
is a little touchy so you know you'll
decide if next week you want to get to
part three part three we could advance
with uh what you said calls
whether the establishment of the state
of israel we could call ascata
we'll see
he makes reference to a safer that i
happen to have called hatakufa hagadola
which is a historical work by ramanakam
kashar
the malacham kashir was one of the
great disciples of the rugged shower
and in this is big safer about the uh
epic period of uh independence he brings
down a letter from basically many of the
majority of the israel
in 1948 about whether the establishment
of the state was in fact asgartha the
gula
and signed here
are many many israel
franc
rabbi michael tikicinski
who was a young man at the time
and about a hundred other israel
signed to the letter that
it is considered
now we'll have to see
what the ignition say about that
we still have to see the opinion of the
samara
and um
also with marcia feinstein
and uh we still have electrical so if
you would like to explore that let me
know and we'll save that for a different
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