The Univesal Reverberations of Banging For Haman - History & Halacha

Okay, good morning everyone. This is our final Sunday before the umpt of Purim. Before we want to thank uh Gordon for picking up the breakfast. If anybody wants to sponsor today's breakfast, it's available. Make sure you don't have any cellular devices unless you're a member of the Mossad and Donald Trump personally called you that you need to be on call 24 hours only and you get asked permission. Could you have your phone? Otherwise, there are no exceptions to the rule. And for sure, no beepers. You can't for sure no beepers in the time like this. I don't want any beepers in the shaw, even at any time, even downstairs. Okay. No beepers in the vicinity of the shaw. Okay. Okay. We're talking about the uh the minhug of banging by Hmon. It is known that the Rama says that one should Oh, thank you. >> [clears throat] >> The children, they put pictures of Hmon on wood, on stones or they write the name Hmon on them and they hit in order to wipe out his name like it says and uh shame. Okay, so this is not specifically the the min of banging by hum. This is the min of writing the name Hammon or um making pictures of Ham and banging and the Rama says there are two reasons for that either or but the Rama also brings down the custom of an unusual custom. Usually there's not that much audience participation during the davening and the only exceptions you know I mean the the balkari says and everyone chimes in even though you're not they're not allowed to do that they're not allowed to do it even though I have a shir to explain why they do it that doesn't mean they're allowed to do it you're not allowed to do it >> remember you know on the leaning on sukus Um uh you don't remember that >> so it was a long time ago >> it was a long time ago but that's many people do that what during >> they really do it I don't whether they do it really or as a joke I can't ex you know um what other audience participation >> um Abraham Everyone chimes in Abraham. They're now to do it. It's not like bringing a phone into a It's not bring a phone into is but chiming in. It's just silly. Why do When else do they do it? They do. Also, you know, you know how to chime in. Also, they do Um again we don't say everyone chimes in. No you there's no this is not audience participation time. Be quiet. You're you have nothing to do. Stay quietly in your seat respectfully. But people like to chime in even though they're not allowed to. But there is a a element of audience participation. The Rama brings to bang by [clears throat] and the Rama says don't be mal in any min says don't be anyhug it was not established for nothing. Okay. So if it wasn't established for nothing why was it established? That means Rama is saying that banging by Hmon was established. It was established to bang by Hmon. So the question is why? Why was it established? So we're going to share a number of very interesting and surprising reasons in the Hagim of Isaac Turn and in Hagimila Migillah. It says that you should bang by Hmon to be mazal in his name because shame, right? So let's say for example um something was in the news yesterday. Let's say I don't know they let's imagine if they would have killed Kmeni Kmeni you know you should bang there would be no difference between Hammon and Ki you know sh when you hear the name of Russia you're supposed to bang to be mazal in his name the name of the wicked should rotat the name should rotat you know some y dare rashima they want a darian you know, he's like he's like Hmon gets to say it's you know it's and is you know he's so so people want to make comparisons but when you hear the name of a Russia you're supposed to bang the mata the marshal he brings that many reasons and rais and the minog in France and in province was to bang bang now in France and Provence they're not going to bang when they say Kmeni that's for sure there they cheer Kmeni you know but and anyway but they did they bang I don't mean the Jews I mean uh the minhug is uh because of shame rashim there's even a re in the to bang you know what it is bin hak harasha okay that talk about banging hako is h. So there's a remedish to bang by why shame. That's one reason. That's reason number one. Reason number two is brought in the bay in the name of the of that what you want to wipe out a malik. You want to wipe him out. Hammon. He's a Malik. Bang. You want to wipe him out. Even though you could ask, "How are you wiping him out?" Because you're banging on the table giving the guy next to you a headache. It's not really wiping him out. How you wiping him out? But it's it's I to signify you want to wipe him out. I guess you can't. You're in shaw right now and you don't know who he is. So maybe we could use, you know, the old cheer. You want to do the mitzvah and you can't do it. So, Hashem considers it as if you did it. How many could you could you get rid of already? But this way you could show you want to get rid of all of them. Hashem considers it like you did. Also, the says we say even from on wood and on stones. Which by the way um Daniel asked how many times does it say 54 I'm sorry you know I'm going to wipe out the 54 times is in the migilla if you want in the humble safer in the first chapter it goes through all the different 54s how many times Esther is in the migilla there 54 four words in there 54 words in the first par of that's why says in the morning before they say shama because she knew the 54 words of shama will wipe and also there 54 letters in the there's a whole slew of 54 fine therefore the mat says don't mock any Jewish practice it was not enacted for nothing They say from why do we bang by ham listen this is very interesting every mitzvah is rooted in the which means whenever the Tory says a word for both meanings of the word it says what does mean one meaning is lifting up one meaning is waving it so the say do both because when the says a word you want to fulfill every possible meaning or is literally means atonement. But what else could mean a circle? That's why the girls dance in a circle is also it says one meaning is bang I'm sorry one meaning is wipe out but um can mean to bang like in like in God smites and he heals he bangs and he heals. So since it says and could be translated as banging. So it's a to bang by which according to this is so you say yeah 54 times they have to have kavana to in the midst of no only one time. You only have to think the first time. Um [snorts] and then he brings down a story a story that there was once a governor in Istanbul and he made a decree not to bang by ham because this guy in Istanbul was Misera Amalik. Interesting. Maybe we could find his children. And he he put guards by every shul and there was one old man in the shul and he insisted on banging by Hmon. And the Jew says, "No, you're putting us all in danger. You're jeopardizing the whole community." And he said, "I don't care. I'm going to bang by Hammon." And he banged by Hammon. And the Yeshua wanted to storm the Shaw. And they couldn't enter. And there was an earthquake in Istanbul. And it was brought to the the leader. What the leader of Turkey is called? The >> Sultan. >> The Sultan. They brought it to the Sultan. And the Sultan said, "Why is there an earthquake here?" And they said, "Because your governor tried to stop an old Jew from banging by Hmon." And he said, "Hang the governor." And the governor was hung. And the old man who insisted on banging by Hmon was Eli. It says it in this, it says it in the book. Okay, that's reason number two. Either to wipe him out. But now, now we're saying a little bit differently. Tim means to bang. means to okay now there's another tradition that we have the say in the name of it's brought in safer from the students of the he heard from Mashulum that one time a hegmine a governor asked why do you bang the wall when you mention hmon he says every time We bang by his name here. They punch him in ganam. So the governor says how do you know that? So he said come to this doorway and the governor opened the door and he saw that's we have a tradition from the sh that when we bang by hammon they bang ham and gehennam. So you know some people they they really so according to that it doesn't to go it's not don't do that you're not you know cuz he's getting off easy then you not do that it's better not to bang you know according to that you know don't throw like party open up what is it called confetti you know that's not going to that's that's helping him if you're going to bang you better give a good bang I mean according to the reason of shame of so you could you could you know you don't have to give such a hard bang but at least one time during the migillah you should give a real strong bang but you have to be careful not to get hurt you know this [clears throat] there was once a guy in no I don't okay the m of ismare brings in a medishah Actually, my wife is a descendant of Rebel Yoho Coen of Ismir. How in the world her great great-grandfather was an Ismir, I can't explain that. But on many of her ancestors on let's say my my father-in-law's great-grandparents here that are in in New York it says anyway he says like this we have a tradition that when you say armon or when you say his name and the name of his wife and his children and you bang Hashem makes h feel the bangings to be Why? Cuz since whoever comes in the world, it's like the miracle happened in their times. Cuz if Hammon's decree would have been fulfilled, we never would have come to the world. Therefore, anyone who comes to the world needs to be Messiah or Hammon. So, Hashem makes a miracle that when you bang by Hmon, Hammon feels it. That's now if you let's say Ki, does he feel it? If he would have carried out his plan, well, when did he go into office? What year? >> 89. >> 89. Before I was born. So, no, I'm joking. So, if he if he would have So, I don't know if that applies to Kmeni. I don't know if you know he feels the banging. >> He started it unofficially 79. >> What? >> 79 was >> he started in 79. What day? Cuz it might be It's Nisa. What? What? What what was the year? What was the what was the date? Anyway also writes in the reason we bang by is that is these says a similar thing would be the says in par that by even dead suffered. What do you mean >> that when they were they were dead firstborns by mak they were also they they suffered in the grave? >> Okay. Um the kafim [snorts] also brings it down that hmon feels the blows. Okay. Next that's that. So that's the third answer that we're making Hmon suffer. Fourth answer and the safer kum Ephraim he brings the famous Ramban that whenever Hashem came to Naveim to prophesy about something Hashem told the Naveim to do a pyion pion is do an act that act will bring the prophecy to fruition. So if Hashem told Yerma that that BL will sink Hashem told Yerma take a stone throw it into the Euphrates and say tishka bevel will sink like this or by Alisha where he put his arm on the bow and he was told to shoot something to so there's a concept that the Ramban teaches which is the the foundation of [snorts] that when Hashem decrees something should come to be for it to come down from the upper worlds and materialize and concretize in this world you need to do an action to bring it to reality by doing an action It brings the prophecy to reality. So therefore simil >> very good applies this toash for God decrees that you should have a sweet year but by eating an apple dipped in honey obviously you're not going to make the on the apple heaven forbid you're going to make the brah on the shivim but when you eat the sweet apple it brings to fruition that you're going to have a sweet year. Therefore, we all want to destroy Amalik. So when we bang by Amalik, it brings uh to fruition Hashem's promise that Amalik will be destroyed. By the way, [snorts] the Niva is Hamishba, we used him extensively this past Wednesday night in Migillas, also brings the Ramban. That's why Hmon made a kamish. Why? Because we know there 50 gates of kadusha and kga the 50 gates of kadusha there 50 gates of tum. So therefore hammon wanted to subdue kadusha and give power to tum. So he made the eights 50 amo as a py cuz hmon learned and he knew that Jews eat sweet apples on rashashana to make them have a good year. So he figured so too by make by hammon was a sorcerer. He knew the Ramban. He knew that by making a tree 50 tall corresponding to the he would give power to the sh and by that he would overcome. So I wanted to say it's in the safer that the was there is a gam of who is it? Rabika is the only one who had the shaun of kadusha. So the ultimate is ham thought he was going to bring down to the world the 50 gates of tum and through him came the 50 gates of kadusha. Okay. So that's a fourth reason to bang by ham. [snorts] It's becoming it's a very big to bang by ham. Fifth the fifth in prehiml he brings why do we bang by ham? You're not actually destroying ham. It's similar to mitzvah. There's a concept. Let's say when you do on an animal or you wave the animal that's not the or you wave the lul. The garra says in sukah it's mitzvah. It's not the actual mitzvah. The actual mitzvah is picking up the lulaf but shaking it is like a small little tiny detail of the mitzvah but it's piran. So too if you're sitting next to a guy who's driving you bananas berserk, he's making all kinds of crazy noises. He's throwing party snappers and he has a tuba and a trumpet and you want to you want to ring his neck. No, don't do that. You should know even though it's not actually destroying it's analogous to mitzvah and it's peronal. And finally, [clears throat] the reason why we do it is we're giving muser to the nations of the world. You you you want to be a bad guy. You know that we're not going to forget it. We're going to be embarrassing you for all eternity by all of our migillas. We're going to be banging. Watch out. Watch out Ki forever and ever. We're going to be disparaging your name. The says in the braha, why do we make such a commotion by hmon? It's malel. It's it's very confusing. He he says he brings in the safer kafaki because kazal we're going to be in the gulus a long time and we're going to have a lot of enemies [snorts] and they're going to want to make gazer like but when they see the headache that they're going to have to suffer if they start up with us that we're going to be throwing party snappers at their name for all eternity they're going to think twice anyway. Right now um there are many who challenge this minog including the primmaagum [clears throat] he says that it's uh the the big noise of banging by hmon disturbs people and they end up missing words and the mishab brewer brings it down also you know you have people they're still they're still nighing or banging in the middle of you're already up to a paraglater they're still you know making oinking you know in the middle of the migilla so basically There are various customs of how to do this. The brings the is to bang 54 times. The in this week's para says the first time and the last time and the brings it down and that's the min. In the asked him in the places they only bang the first and last time is that violating he says no that you're not that's not called also it's very important when you bang by not to continue to bang by then he brings that in uh in the base of Rev in Sadigar he says and also in the in the Gabby makes an announcement based on the of the Mardasstein they only bang the first T and the last either because it's a by the Tus people are starving and they don't want to wait around until this guy finishes playing taps on his bugle and or because of okay then there's another min the min of by by the litfish they bang only when you say h ben hhammeda or hogi that's what litaks do hammeda or hogi in the safeimina >> and how many times is that >> I don't know He brings then the city of Chavis no to bang with the feet whenever it says Benhamogi or then the Kazin repeats it. Maybe you missed it. Why? And also by the way the says that he says the to bang when you say like it says in And but you can't do it on your own also is only when so and also descendants of umamifer the The Imra of Elo he files the custom of his chuva only if it's Hmon with a description but not just Hmon. Oh, I guess when it's just Hmon, it's just a name. But when it's something, he cares about his lineage. And we want to show, oh, we care about your lineage to destroy Jews. Maybe he brings from here this from Hagim. The rem is from the bin is Han. Now some bang 52 times. The Ram is bin I don't know why you would bank 52 times. I don't I thought there 50 there 54 Hmons. Ah so says the Reb from that according to his custom that we only bang when it's Ben Hamasa. So you only it could also read you know when if it says it with Ben Ben Hammed or okay that's another custom um in the safer which is very early safer you only bang when H is mentioned in the context of his wickedness but it's not clear what is he referring too. So maybe when it talks about vi or does it mean when he's doing something bad or when he's described as bad some only bang when ham is having his downfall like when you when he's going downhur the father of the schlah says in by regarding banging by hmon don't bang every time hum is mentioned only when he's having his downfall like in the kilo and there are some shows I'm not going to say where that the min is to bang all 54 times unless the bal could slip in a couple of them before the kila realizes I can't say who does that and what that one is based on that one is based on really we do bang but if we could save a couple of them you know we'll go for Anyway, so we should be to the downfall of all the enemies of Kali Israel and we have a tradition that Malik is destroyed and Nissan the Bikdash is built. So, so far looking pretty good and we should see the ultimate Yeshua for the bias. >> We're adding on a very important from Dr. Fuches that according to this it's not to make to make a trumpet to make a to make a musical note. It's not going to help. Look, if the reason is shame, you want a tarat if you want to bang. So, it could be if it's a such a loud noise where you're literally you're disturbing people's uh eard drum. So, it's like a bang. It's like a sound bang. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's like a soundbang. If it's because hmon is getting pained in gehennam, so if you make a really loud annoying noise, that could also, you know, cause him tar in gehenn if it's right. So depending on what the reason for the banging is with definitely if you start playing the star spangled banner it's you know you're not mim the the Indian. What about if you make animal noises >> catg guns? >> It depends if it's something that's annoying. If it's something annoying then uh but no it could be you're mocking him also. He's suffering humiliation. You're mocking him. So that that's worse than hitting you know. Um is worse than uh actual hitting. So could be it's even a h could be it could be it's like a to Yeah. Okay. Uh,