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The Chazon Yechezkel & R' Shmuel Rozovsky on Why The Ran Did Not accept the Raavad's Approach

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PR okay good morning dear friends today we're going to analyze the r and the rivid uh not a long share today but something uh substantial in the sugya of [Music] however if somebody makes in the TOA then we say is making an by the parchment it's meaningless but if you say then you mean mean the names of Hashem in it the way the ran learns the Su you take a look in the ran um it's about eight lines down the is he says we're not talking about Nadar we're talking about a you made a you swore by the t t the the call someone who swe someone who makes like I wrote earlier and the reason why thean says that we're talking about a is because a is not a so how you supposed to swear by a to the reason a to is it's not a so talk and your intention is the names of Hashem that are in it because when you swear you have to mention the name of hm there two ways to swear you could say you swear or you could say by the name of God I'm not going to do this that's how the ran learns the ran learns this whole Su is talking about shua we mentioned that the rivid on the fourth wide line disagrees and he learns the gamar simply that we're referring to making a NE I what NE are you making how could you be madf by a Tyra the answer is you could because the names of the r considers let's see the r inside it's quoted in the on the fourth line it's an actual if you say this to me by the it's meaningless because you're only being by the parchment but if you Say by what it's written in it this Kar is to me with what is written in it it's like someone who why because your mind is on the mentions of's name and then the mentions of's name because through the writing K and the preparation for kadus Kad they're holy so the rid learns the gamar is simply we're we're not talking about the subject of we're talking about the subject of I it's not it is you are m your mindset is for the mentions of's name and the mentions are why because by writing preparing it for Holiness if you say you mean the sanctity of that's not exactly like the rid the rivid says the names of not the okay that is the of the rivit that the gar does not have to be we don't have to learn the gar in an unusual way but means so so now the question is why didn't the ran learn like like the rid why would the ran uproot the simple reading of the gar and say we're not talking about and you mean to swear by the names of God that are mentioned in it why doesn't the ran feel it's reasonable that the names of hasem in a are considered a so we have a few different Pim we have the P of rski in the in his commentary to Thea again we're trying to understand we mentioned the rid learns the that we're talking about somebody who made a and you made a by the name of hem which is according to the rid why didn't the ran learn this way and the ran was the simple reading of the gar that we're talking about soes abramsky says that this would not be considered a it's true that the Kad of the names of the person creates but the person creates it through a not any kind of Declaration that he's designating it Kad it's through AA so if you need AA that indicates it's not a says you can't make it in a through what you say with your lips only through an act of writing inski I just saw last night said that of all the the one which is most uh glat in terms of it is rovski the rski says that we see from the rivid that a certain position is taken in the world of the riv says since through SOI points out the names of AEM Are Holy but they're not AER so how could you be ma aren't you matus in the element of the aspect of prohibition you're matus in the element of Holiness so we see if you could be from we see that works even on something that just has Holiness without any prohibition so this would explain the Ran's position the ran would hold no you can't do hatasa on something that just has Kad it has to be with however rski points out if you look in the he brings from that you're not allowed to be from that are and even itself that the shame of it is written B so you can't get Han so there is in the so it is by the way so then the question would be then why if you're manad in the sa itself and the is but the also has I guess how would toski is quoting fit into aramara but again he's just bringing up a that maybe the opinion of the ran is you can't be mad on the because this would be a that maybe is not user again even though he's bringing there is a that there is an in the kadus maybe that's not unanimous here's a third interesting uh aspect that the sa brings you're being Mist in the name of Hashem okay so does that mean just like you can't erase the name of Hashem you can't destroy that Kar is there an in the kar are you to be not just even if you want to say that there's an okay you can't get Han on the kar but if you're M from the is of the shame of hem so does that mean you can't be Mas the kar he says the names of the Asar are only holy but there's no iser simply you should not be able to be m in Kad if there's no is so he brings from the that maybe your mat in the so he says really your your matf from the the Kad which produces the is is so you're going to learn out just like you can't erase the name of hm you can't eat how do you extrapolate from an to an is a so now the question is so would that mean there's an when it comes to the anyway these are two possibilities of why the r did not want to learn the Su like the r again the does say so why did the r say we're talking about a the rid was able to learn the that we're talking about so either like the says that is not in because it comes not your words or like rovski points out the are but they're not necessarily they're not necessarily unless like that of that there is that's just one point in and this week we learn about have a good day everyone