The Chakira of the Taz Regarding One Who Was Born Circumcized & the Question of Sha'agas Aryeh

this Torah class is brought to you by Torah anytime.com okay welcome back this is a second point of and this is a really fundamental aspect of the bris of someone who we know the said that raun said that someone who's does not really require someone who pulls their fores skin to cover where their Mila was cut to make it look like they they only require and they are only precluded from eating Trum presumably the reason they don't have to do Mila is because they already were circumcised is that the reason or is the reason they don't have to do because they don't have an Arla is it because they were already circumcised and you only have to be circumcised once or is it because no technically you have to be circumcised as many times as need be but this person does not have an ARA to cut they just pulled it listen to this question the Taz this Taz is found in the Taz talks about the following case am if someone was born circumcised and they caused the blood of the Covenant to drip and because the kid was so fat this RAB his uh skin got bigger now you can't see the corona even when the in other words the kid was born gal he was born circumcised and but we still have to dois but then he became does he need a he doesn't need a but he was already no he wasn't circumcised mean what's the reason M doesn't need um mil is it because he already was circumcised so this kid was not circumcised he was born M and he only had so maybe this kid needs mil or is it that is not an meaning should we say now we got to cut the skin with a knife here you can't say he already was circumcised at that time he didn't have an isn't this like that the says if let's say you sh an animal and you cover it the blood and then it gets uncovered you don't have to cover it again but if the wind covers it and then it becomes uncovered you have to covered again don't get pushed off this is exact parallel case you're right the kid was born Mah but that's like the blood being covered by the wind so now the kid has an ARA you got to cut it we don't care that he wasn't fit to be circumcised at the time or do we say no by the case ofam there's blood there that has to be covered but here there's no Arla the kid was born without an Arla I his skin became fat that's not an Arla that's not a natural AR Maybe only in that's natural says the it's that if someone was and then you did and then it was in other words if the kid was but not completely of course if it's you got to cut it off but the Taz has this very interesting we know that does not need a is it because the child already had AA is that the reason and in this case where the kid did not have a Mila he requires a or is the reason why does not require not because he had a but because this is not an Arla that's the suff of the Taz but the Taz has a valid um possibility that if a kid was born already circumcised and you did have toughest and then it was you have to do mil because the kid never had a mil comes a shagas and he seems to blow the Tas out of the waters do you remember the thear had a shla how is it possible that for the somebody may have a child who doesn't have an issue with a and before the a person has a child who does not have a thear says isn't it where the kid was born exactly and the at the time in between the and the a eight days earlier or the kid's fever broke then the gar is looking for a scenario how do you have a case where the mil was not an issue before the and became an issue before the so comes a shagas and he says if the Taz was correct that a kid who was born with a Mila and had tough and then his skin became fat the T has that the kid requires mil then why is the gar searching searching for cases of how is it possible that a kids Milo was only an issue before the but not before the we have a very simple scenario according to the Taz a kid who was born he Hadis he he was a fat kid and then all of a sudden in between the and the he he became says the we have to go to his Kev in France and Mets anyone want to [Laughter] go says to me it's obvious both cases whether he was completely circumcised even though it's like he was circumcised and you don't need to do a ver ver the proof that a kid who was born Mah and then became does not need to do a says how do you have and not and the is looking for a case the kid was born must be that such a Cas such a kid there's no it must be that a kid who was born gal and then became there's no MIT even though he was never gal meaning we see that that's not called an RL we see that's not called an RL that's a shagas AR's bomb question on the Taz so the gitz he wants to answer this question of the shagas he wants to say why would the Tas hold that if a kid was born circumcised and then he became you would have to do Mila why would you have to do a Mila is it that the kid is considered an ARA or perhaps there's still a Mitzvah of mil is it that there's a Mitzvah of mil or is it that the kid is deemed in RL so goritz wants to say that the the side of the Tas of why somebody who became who never had a needs to have a it's not because the person is considered an AR that might not be considered but there is still a Mitzvah of to reveal the he says um he says is required for the sake of circumcision you're not called an regarding the when it comes to the males and the Servants of your household it's not what's you bringing the it's not the it's the like the proves in like the gra proves in the letters that the what's is not the it's uh it's not the mil it's the arelos bottom line is the Tas may be correct that someone who had a and then became requires but NE but nevertheless it would not be because even though you require a Milo you're not considered an RL I have a hard time with this answer for two reasons to me the words of the Taz imply in the Taz is suff the T says do we say that the T says here you can say the child was circumcised already because he didn't have an AR at all and it's like the Taz Compares it to where if the wind covers it you got to do it again or the T says oh you only have to circumcise what's a natural but is not cold in Arla so doesn't that sound like the first that is it is cold in Arla or the gor is learning no it's not cold in but you still have to cut it and would you say that what isave somebody from eating the having a child who's an RL or doing the Mitzvah of I thought the doing the Mitzvah that's why someone who is in who even who even though they are an RL but you can't do the Mitzvah of mil that's not the seem to imply that what's is the of not the status of anyway that's the suff of the Taz that somebody who is born M Hadas and then became whether that person requires do we say they never had mil so now it has to be done like if the r covered it and then it became uncovered you have to cover it or do we say you don't have to cover something with that's not okay thanks for joining so this week Monday night Tuesday night like regular regular schedule and uh we'll see beyond that um have a great rest of the week C hi M oh um one second my volume is very low sorry yeah would it make a difference if he was born circumcised and then no blood was taken out and then the fat or whatever he grew it back and therefore it was never like a closure to it so maybe there there could be you're asking would it make would it matter if let's say the kid never had hatas D so now do you only need D or do we say so that's a third Su that was a very big Su what does do that's another this idea that if somebody's born n mAh you have to be um do what does d bris do does d bris make it that the person has a Mila doesn't have an AA or it's just some kind of like uh um ceremonial uh Covenant of dam in other words what what does hatas Dam bris do does hatas D bris make a person not an RL was a person not an RL already if a person does not have hatas D bris are they in RL is someone who does not have aest down bris are they considered an RL that's also up for grabs that's want like may they go back to square one if they you know if if it grows back so then you're like starting over and quote unquote I that be right right I I just I didn't understand the sh it doesn't seem like it could ever be realistic that the the the skin would fatten up and grow in that time span between it's not it's not a very likely scenario that it would happen then and that time that right yeah but let's say he waited a year I don't know he just didn't he never got to it or whatever I don't he waited two three years I don't know wasn't the is looking for scenario between the and the a so or maybe let's say the person pulled it then in other words they were they not just normally when you're say you only need but what if somebody was and then did between the and the that that could be a scenario okay okay everyone thank you very much call tub have a good day you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by Torah anytime.com