That the Voluntary Offerings of the Nazir Become Part of the Nezirus Process

Okay, welcome friends for coming Sunday afternoon just to revisit some of the blot we learned in the past and to uh dig in just a bit the gumar on the bottom of the page said that the way to interpret the Mishna of somebody who said this cow says I'm a nazer if I get up where this door says I'm a nazer if I open bishame says you're a nazer. Bis says you're not a nazer. Ra says it doesn't say if it gets up on its own. Rather interprets interprets it the cow is crouching and he says harbon harban. [snorts] So the rush asks the following question. The cow is crouching and he says harban. And this is the perush. The cow thinks that it can't get up and it wants to rest and it excuse me it wants to make an that if it gets up either on its own or someone else that you'll bring it to the azara and you'll bring it as a carbon nazer. So we mentioned this question as when we were learning it. There is no carbon nazir from a cow. [snorts] The carbonazer is uh there's no big animal that's brought as a carbonazer. A par is not brought as a carbonazer. The rush said they would typically bring [snorts] um on the day that they shaved carbon free will offerings and where is this learned out from? It's learned out from the milad [snorts] besides what you're able to afford. So in other words from the we learn out that aside from the standard carbon of neros they would typically be manad other carbon. So what the awam are bothered by is it's very nice that he would typically bring other carbon great he would typically bring other carbon but nevertheless what does that have to do with carbon nazir these added carbonates that were brought how does that fit into the words harini nazer [snorts] so actually the first ion I want to show you is uh very interesting and it took me a little while sorry for the delay but Um they quoted Maran Rizalei and I figured it must be so I was looking and the reason I couldn't find it is because it's not a on so that's one of the reasons that I was delayed. I could not find the Grizz and I usually for at least the I want I want at least you should see it inside. So this this is quoted by the rash. Um the rash says let's see if brings it. they would be rugged to bring it's like it says at the end of um the last parag like Rashi explains from the okay so the rash is referencing this that we learn out from that aside from the obligatory carbon of they would also bring discretionary offerings. So the question is how does that fit into his words in the Mishna he said so the briskar quotes first he quotes says from the that you could bring many carbon now from the this is the somebody says says, "I'm going to shave bringing $100." He has to bring him on that day. The interprets it that the is that all the carbon that you're not there to bring it's on the carbon that they have a den of carbon that you can't drink until you bring those carbon. [snorts] So when the guy says harini noir even though normally you don't bring a cow as part of the carbon nazerus it's not just well I could offer free willing free will offerings it's whatever carbonus your manad to bring before you shave those carbon that you uh that you offer to bring generously have a den of carbon nazeros that you're now to drink wine until you bring it. So they are they do become you're not even allowed to drink wine. Furthermore, even if you didn't make another at the time that you accepted the carbon to bring these extra carbon, but then on the day that you finished the nazeros, you were these carbon, you must bring them. And these carbon have the den of carbonus nazeros meaning they're banan holds like this that if it would not be possible to add onto the carbonus of nazeros then you couldn't make such a nether. So the fact that the saf darian according to the rabban that it's possible to make another at the time of being the nazerus that means you could even be mobban afterwards meaning the fact that you could be manad in the beginning means you could be manad uh later [snorts] and and according to the raan the briskar interprets that you would not even be allowed to drink the wine until until you bring those carbon. So this just explains much better how you could say about a cow hari nazer that you're bringing the animal as a carbon nazer. How is it a carbon nazer? Just to say well they would typically bring other carbonus on the day they completed the nazeros. That doesn't explain how those carbonis are carbon of nazeros. Unless you say like this Ramban brought by the brisker of that once you're manad even if you're manad later you really you can't even drink the wine until you bring them those carbonis have a den of nazeras. Okay, that's the first that's Ian Shir Noir Dafi recording stopped.