Sukkos in the Desert

this Tower class is brought to you by torahanytime.com and the main place in the Tyra yeah the main place in the car that speaks about the anthem of sukis is pasius Emma and uh the end of parishes Emma in parag you have it on your sheets we have a number of very interesting circuits on the 15th day of this seventh month is seven days what are you doing on the first day to make a koi Dash ivacion Hashem you bring carbonos for seven days and then again it says and then it almost seems to end off the antifiglamid Zion Hashem and we would expect this would be the end of the antif we don't hear anything in other words this is all we need this is all it says it says on the 15th day what do you do on circus well the first day is and the last days Michael Kardashian finished and then all of a sudden in pasta glamor test the Tyra wakes up and says oh forgot to tell you I forgot to tell you what you have to do on circus oh yeah on the 15th day of the seventh month notice this time it doesn't say hazette right in the beginning and this time it doesn't say just says by the way what do you have to do um we have we have something left out over here tomorrow so here's the Torah here the tire is telling us something very interesting the tire is almost waking up out of the blue moon after having told us all about the empty of circus completely forgetting to tell me about any of the Mitzvahs that you have to do on circus and then all of a sudden at the end of the parish it says oh by the way make sure you take your little Vanessa again base it says why is that in other words we have to ask ourselves a number of questions over here number one why is it that the first time it tells you the date of the antif of circus it says a and the second that's impossible on the test it doesn't say Hazard just says and even more importantly why does the Torah break up Lucas into two parts it gives you the date it tells you now do malacha it doesn't tell you anything about the about the Mitzvah sayom and then it tells you the date a second time why does it have to tell you the date twice we already know the date everybody said impossible the date is the 15th day of the seventh month why does it have to repeat again in plastic llama tests and why the first time it doesn't say anything about the Mrs and the second time it does tell you about the mississaug I mean what's going on you don't have anything analogous to this by any of the other Yemen Titan okay and even more strange is if you take a look in your hamashim foreign [Applause] questions okay let's take a look at what it says by Rosh Hashanah and possible in the first month yeah it says it's PESA so first it says and then it says first it tells you the Mitzvah and then it says right and then it says in other words first it tells you the Mitzvah and then it tells you or take a look at plastic test it talks about the IMAX it tells you you got to bring the armor and then it says till you bring the eye Miami and then it says okay so let's take a look at Rosh Hashanah it gives you the date it tells you Rosh Hashanah has a day of blowing this Cipher and then it tells you like sasu in other words in terms of the order of operations first it tells you the Mitzvah of the and then it tells you that is let's take a look at yamakipuram it says so so first it tells you what you got to do and then it tells you you know how to do work and when it comes to the empty of sukis we have the exact opposite what is the tablet of circus and pasta climate hey and it doesn't say one word about any of the Young Thugs until the very end of the parasha so these are three problems that we want to examine number one why does the Torah break up suck us into two parts it gives you the date it tells you you're now Zuma and then it gives you the date a second time and it tells you about the missiles of the of the sukha and the down meaning why is it breaking it up number one number two why the first time does it says and the second time it doesn't say haza and number three why is it that first it tells you about the Institute and then it tells you about the missiles of the yamta okay let's take a look at some of these questions in number two this is from the safer is if you take a look at them that talk about the antifas you will wonder very quickly in other words you'll immediately be bothered by the following questions why is it by all the other Yemen Thai them first Hashem tells you what to do the past academ until the very very end of the segment Sherry rack so it's never a second the only thing the circum says and then it almost ends right you think uh you know you could go home you think you could go to sleep but it's it's Messiah right that's like the closing line you would think after it says you would think you know you're finished for the day it's a positive that seems like a conclusion Adam it appears like Adam have concluded the main passion of redness only afterwards concludes afterwards the toy goes back a new thing right in other words what is all of this verbosity why all of these words just say on the 15th day sit on the sucker take your dollar meeting and don't do malacha no the time has to say on the 15th day of this month don't do malacha and by the way Hashem now the tire says oh I forgot to tell you about what circus is all about and take it down meaning okay so what's the answer to these questions the answer is a very controversial answer and this answer is offered by a great going and a Dash and his name was and he offered the following answer and that is like this he wants to say that when beneath swell were in the mid bar for 40 years they did not sit in the sukkah why because of the whole purpose of sukkas is to commemorate that God protected us with the ananya covered you don't need to commemorate something that is presently happening what are you going to sit in a sukkah to commemorate that why commemorate that on that covered why why distract yourself from enjoying the actual what are you gonna do you're gonna sit in a booth to commemorate do that uncover over your head it wouldn't make any sense to sit in a booth commemorating when you have an ankle so therefore the monogamously toxins suggests that when Bene Israel were in the mid bar for 40 years they did not have to sit in the circus close this annoying what they did he's taking on one side no everyone agrees they sat on Circus the question is what are we commemorating right so why would they need to sit in Circus ah what about the dollar meaning so he says like this they also did not take down and meet him in the mid bar why doesn't the Thursday very clearly it says when you gather the produce of the land in other words when do you take the dalaminum when you gather the produce of the land but hey buddy when you're in the mid bar you hadn't you haven't been in the land yet you're still in the desert so if you haven't gone into the land the Torah is saying very clearly the Mitzvah of valid meaning does not apply they have not yet so therefore suggested toxin that when bananasra we're in the mid Road guess what they did on circus nothing at all they did was they refrained from work on the first day and on the eighth day and they were happy that's how you read the second is when you're in the mid bar and it's this seventh month in other words now now right now so what do you got to do what Circus the first day is bring your carbon noise for seven days on the eighth days of micro Cardiff go home goodbye go to sleep you're finished with sukkas don't worry about dollar medium don't worry about it don't worry about bee traps can you imagine no bee traps the whole yamtif Y no no things dangling from the sky no schlocks they don't have to worry about the rain they don't have to send the Suka they have an Antioch cupboard what do they do why would they commemorate on any I covered or why would they commemorate circus mamish if they were sitting and suka's Manish so therefore there was no sukkas other than Israel and carbonis ah but says the Tyra but when you get into erits Israel and it's no longer once it becomes now you really gotta celebrate now you have to take location and so sukis as we know it we did not celebrate until we got in Terrace Israel is does the midst of all these myths got wine today sure why we don't we don't we don't do all these other things that require it but we don't do that right that's just the trigger once we started Gathering to us ours the same way we find by other Mitzvahs when you enter Earth it says right the Mitzvah is triggered once we got into Earth as well however once we got there once we made it in then uh we're good that's a straw but if I live it depends if it depends if it's tally but if it's uh if it's uh watches that go on and watch it back because once once we enter There It Is Well it's triggered once it was triggered it's triggered for good is suggesting the fact that the tire breaks up circus into two parts Part A the Tauruses there are two chapters in the history of the youngest of circus chapter one is the 40 years in the mid bar that during that period all you had to do is refrain from work bring your carbonus chapter two began the US become that's what he says take a look at number two foreign the reason we sit in soccer is just come around now they are covered like it says so in the mid bar you don't have to make azaker to something that they were doing papaya what about the dalan minimum he wants to say that they were not in the mid bar either why I've been before us because the perfect says clearly that this missile is only applicable when they came into land kefishime like it says so now we understand the first time it talks about the seventh month it says because the month that clients while we're in the mid bar they always they only had to do one thing not to malacha and they could bring carbonics once it became that wasn't that is developed okay that was the kiddish of taxon so now here's where the fun part begins there was a Rabbi by the name of rabisraal of balance and he had the honor of being the Advent of Budapest okay he was in a Budapest and he eventually moved towards Israel and he writes to the tutsal yaza he wants to get the title yazir's opinion on this vart can we say such a thing that I that even though Hashem gave the Torah to Claud Israel and her Sinai nevertheless these two minutes were not applicable until they came in Terrace Israel is this a um correct presumption so the city like Zion similar he writes the following you take a look on your sheets number three Budapest Ries okay I want to do your will foreign you wanted to get my opinion on the following issue now why does this web Israel vowels want to get his opinion because we saw violets wrote in a journal called tell tapios in Tevis tough tough race which is when what year is that 1928 Bishop hectic yeah 28.7 there this whole Verde is published in the name of in the name of a Menachem City toxin and if you take a look in the next column that would be so Valance wrote this and um Praises this comment because could you ask a major question could somebody please tell me Hashem tells my shabino tabane Israel take the take the um Astro take the love take the Hadas and take that Rivals where in the world did when they saw get them from what they had you know in the mid bar on me you know on Main Street different booths of kids selling love him where'd they get them from you know what the answer is the answer is they didn't get them they didn't have they didn't have dollar and minimum in the midbrain but this word created great controversy why we are negative people had a hard time swallowing that in the mid bar the class so we're not commanded to sit in the sukkah and to take the Darwin and people had a very difficult time except accepting such a thing and therefore this created great controversy so revistro vaults wanted to support this vart from the words of the rambam in the morning the rambam in the morning writes the following you could take a look take a look in number four the rambam writes in the morning the rambam rates thou shall nearly it would seem to me the arbas what's the union of the four meaning of love this is a celebration a celebration for the fact that they left the mid bar a the midver was not a place where anything could grow utena you couldn't get a fig over there of a Geffen you couldn't get grapes for remind you couldn't get pomegranate so my mind and where do they enter they entered El makoimatze they entered a luscious country and they entered a country flowing with rivers therefore Hashem commanded them therefore we take as a remembrance we take the most beautiful of fruits and the most fragrant of fruits and the most beautiful leaves and the most beautiful of grasses in other words the S Rogue is the most beautiful of fruits and the hadasim are the most aromatic plants and the lulav are the most beautiful leaves and the arrivals are the most beautiful grass hey and these four medium include three aspects number one is the their abundant um ability to find them if anyone was able to attain them so the ramam seems to be saying very clearly what's the union of the midst of the down meaning it's a celebration of entering Arts Israel when they're in the mid bar nothing grew they couldn't get a fruit they couldn't get a vegetable they couldn't get anything that grew and now they enter a lush country a country that's fertile a country that produces so many beautiful fruits and plants and trees so by entering Arizona taking the down medium this is a celebration of their new existence so isn't it pretty clear from around them that the they did not have dalan menom in the mid bar if they had dollar medium in the mid bar then how is taking the dalminum a celebration of a new existence it's not a new existence they had it the whole time obviously the rambam seems to be saying that Talon meaning was something that did not exist in the midvar it first became available when they came to ss1 that's why we specifically take valid meaning to celebrate the entrance in Terrace Israel so the rambam seems to be saying very clearly like this vart of ramanakham 3 toxin that what that they did not take the dalid minim in the mid bar ah so this sounds rights based on this rambam in the morning says the following take a look at number five zabara Milo the words of the rambam the logic of the Rama are clear did sivoy halakihas that the command and the ability to take the down meaning was only once they came into Arts Israel I can't possibly imagine how anybody could question this promise this is obvious both based on the ramam's fundamental reason which is to celebrate leaving a desolate area to apply a fruit uh a lush area Behavior it's very close to the parish the Mitzvah only began to apply once they left once they left the mid bar that so first of all the randoms fundamental reason for that meeting was to celebrate their new existence that's clear they didn't have dialed Amino and number two why does the rambam say we specifically take these four species says the rambam because they're abundant and are just wrong so isn't that clear that that Savoy only began once I mean it's the reason that I have a question for you why did Torah tell you to pick these four species Survivor says you know why because these four species are abundantly available on Earth Israel so I have a question so then why is everybody should tell beneath sort of take these four species now it's not a good reason it must be that the Mitzvah only kicked in once they came into artist's wrong that's what the um sea of Alex cites to defend this fart that we're learning from that's where we saw about um quotes to defend this fight in other words around them it's pretty clear that the dollar medium did not begin until what until we entered aretz Israel okay by the way take a look let's turn over the menorah Tamar nasama is one of the early sifri muster the Menards Hammer also cites this Rama take a look at number six the menorah Samar baharav hamura right the rambam he reveals to us in his distinguished safer time limits those ice the reason for this Mitzvah today to remember that God brought them Champs from a place where there are no fruits right a salty land an infertile Land locations what do we see from the minara Samar number one he says the number seven well remind me today some are taxi we see two things number one if he is signing the wrong Mom that means he holds up look around them is saying he's praising highly right the highest praise if somebody says over your Tyra what could be a better praise right sometimes people tell you you know Rabbi nice bartora okay but if somebody says Rabbi I said it over at the table right that's the highest praise if somebody says it over that's the greatest hammar is citing the words of the rambam that's the greatest praise what ramama is saying that's the greatest huskama and Sheamus and number two the Minas hamara look how he says over the rambam he's mad Gish very clearly it's in order to remember that God brought them the sole purpose of the Mitzvahs to remember that God brought them ah well this language that he brought them it is clearly that this Mitzvah did not kick in until he brought them because of the midst to commemorate that he brought them if he didn't bring them yet what are you commemorating okay so the title yazar says that he likes this chat so much he's gonna bring additional ammunition to support and uphold this Parish again what we're saying is that in the Midvale you go home the night of sukkas your wife's gonna ask you you know Janko Barrel did the Benes thrall sit in the sukkah in the mid bar did they take the dollar medium in the midbrain and say no they didn't and the proof is the proof's in the pudding because the first time it says that's refrain tale when they're in the midmark and when it says has there does it say any of the midsize doesn't say anything about the sukkah doesn't say anything about the diameter then it goes back and gives you the date of circus again and there it doesn't say hello and then it tells you about the sukkah okay so you're gonna do really good you're gonna have a good yum tip you're gonna really impress your wife and she's gonna bring you at that great dessert that you're waiting for she calls me barrel all right she'll have to get that part straight now the tits are brings some additional ammunition number one from the abar benel that there be no rights and parishes Emma says yeah barbanell why did Hashem command us to take our way nahal The Willows says because they grow on water they didn't have the arena they certainly didn't have it in the desert in other words what you think though when they're walking in the desert where you know no animal could survive all of a sudden you know a rubble started sprouting the khaksiva therefore he commanded so therefore the abominus saying clearly that at least the arovos they didn't have until they got into Arts Israel now if they didn't have arrivals it's not going to do any good to take a asteroid without an Arava and therefore there's another clear proof that the Mitzvah did not begin yet until they got into Etc now the city is looking number nine he says look what I found look what I got um another two commentary they explained um number one is for the Russian Journey that's awesome Maybe okay probably yeah you're right so the first one he quotes is and he says like this he says when he left the mid bar and they came to a place so to remember to remember this the tar commanded them to take the beautiful produce of the hand so basically you're saying exactly what the ramam says and then the about then Cecilia quotes the abarabanel to the effect of what we said that the dollar meaning they did not take when they were in the mid bar but so far we've only discovered we've only brought proof we only substantiated half of what we've been saying fine right we've proved they didn't take the diagram like the ramam says that the purpose of dominion is to commemorate their entry into this fertile Lush land but what about the sukkah do we have any evidence regarding what Finance Israel did with the sukkah in the mid bar so for this we come to the base La Kim basala Kim was written by the ma bits you go to it's fast today you'll see the cover of yeah Rizal and ravenmeister Cordova and right there right next to them is the mabit of Maisha metrani and he says the following he wants to know did the beneath Israel sit in so he says like he starts to say you know what maybe they did not feel a mitzvasuka even the midst of tsukushi REM is on Ani kavod which is an allusion to the ananya coaches that surrounded them for 40 years it's possible that it applied in the mid bar every year in other words yeah maybe they did sit on the sukkah on um circus why but they have that on air cover yeah but they have ananya covered the whole year by sitting specifically in the sukkah during sukkas that would focus their mind on a benefit that they currently have the same way they commercial you know again the same way they celebrated with the mountains the same way before they were taken Adam and Shrine so too cloudy as well they sat in Asuka even while they were surrounded with ananya covered however the basala Kim does not conclude this way if you take a look in the next paragraph VF sure even though we will make the case that they ate the matzah and they celebrated they did not sit in the Sook on circus why is so you say what's the problem there's a halachic reason why you can't sit in the sukkah if you have ananya covered the mission soccer says if you have a Suka your past is possible that's why the Torah says that future Generations should know but you you don't have to do anything to know you know very well because you just look up into the sky you see the ananiac of it it's not for you one says what's the real thing you said they said in Circus it was hot why did they hold it's hot it's hot like Fiona I remember when uh oh why they need it so um so there were cats as I said in sukkas in the war against had already departed at the end of the 40 years not in during the 40th okay but that's a big discussion so therefore the base La Kim says very clearly they did not sit in Circus ah foreign but the way he understands the basil Kim is the shoe by Kim is retracting and he writes as possible they didn't ah so four lines it already entered the mind of the base look at the city ah however says it's let me tell you what you should not say okay until now we were saying nobody saying that why did Hashem command us specifically in the dialed meaning when once we entered arith Israel because we're celebrating the entrance into Earth's throne the dollar meaning is a celebration of the entrance into Earth Israel Cecilia says why can't we just say very simply that you know why they didn't take it down meet him in the mid bar because they couldn't get them there was no there's no way to get them well they're estheroga orchards in the mid bar there were Rivers growing with our Rivals coming at them where'd they get them from says it's Cecilia that's not a question you know why because Thai Swiss tells us the mid bar was fertile it blossomed in fact that's the Texas says in Hulen so if that's the case we're not going to say that the reason they didn't take the dominoes they couldn't get them they could get them but they didn't take them because the concept of domino is to celebrate the lushness of Arts Israel not that they were unavailable in the midmark so tell us the rights ulam in the last piece it's a common to try to prove it if you want to try to prove it because you're bothered by a question where'd they get it from this ain't approved why not why is this not a proof says you have it on your sheets of number 12. now when Bene Israel came to the mid bar the mid bar blossomed or we have an emendaris in shashiram the plastic says remind him which teaches us the matter says that the air through the well many types of plants and growth and truths grew for them how do we know this because in the time Miriam died and the bear stabbed they said oh we don't have figs we don't have dates we don't have grapes why dafka do they wake up now because before Miriam died they had all this stuff because this was not just a moving well this was a moving well that irrigated and caused the mid bar to sprout forth also the alcohol shimani tells us that when beneath Allah the man fell the slav came down the bear brought up for them in every single shaved it made its own River and they drew forth from the bear and they planted figs pomegranates grapes and even apples by the way when the gemara she uses a lesson of apples do you know what that's referring to massage the tightness it talks about it's natural okay so it could be the dollar medium group for them or they could have gotten them from in Getty you know the Arabs could have brought them from from ain't Getty because um we find in the mattress where do they get wine for the nasakim they got it from the crummit so it could be they got another down meaning from angeri also but be it as an a to zelia says I am a big fan of what we learned today and that is the reason why the tar breaks up the umptive into two parts first it says do they have ah no that would mean him no sukkah but then has a ustralia once you enter Earth Israel then you have it down a medium then you have the midst of sukha and that is why the Tauruses so that future Generations know but the DAR in the mid bar they didn't need a commemoration they had the actual ananya covered they didn't need there's nothing better than the real thing okay we'll break over here you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com