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Saying Barchu After Davening Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 133, 134 Seif 1

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Okay, good morning everyone. And we're continuing in here's what we're going to do today. We're going to begin and we'll see if we have time to jump into the Okay. By the way, um my friend Raashim uh asked Well, where is this that the Rama says where the Rama doesn't even quote the whole PK. So, so sorry about that. I was learning last night and on my bookmark it has the it's in par it's all the way in the beginning of okay so the that references just um the beginning of the first two words the Why doesn't the Rama bring the whole because you're supposed to know that's that we assume that you know if you're learning. Yeah. Okay. Fine. on you do not say after the final kadesh that implies that during the week you either do say it or you can say it on you don't say it says even in a place where the minute gets to say it during the week maybe a few guys miss the You don't say it. Why? Everyone comes to before. So what about the people who don't come to before? They're they're just not part of the everyone. But the the Ramos says that during the week it could be somebody might come after on Shabas. There who are there are there are no such people. Says Mr. In some places the minute gets to say after the completion of the And they didn't hear the said for this reason that if you're going to say you should say mish at the end of ding because you want it to be as late as possible because you have the guy who rolls in as during the Cuz of course it's considered davening with a minion as long as you get there while people are taking off their no just joking. It's only considered ding with a minion if you start with let's say you come an hour early you say from a that was written by somebody who went to the mikvah 30 times after that you saydal you say everything in the only thing is you didn't start with no sorry he's a he's a nice guy he's a good guy he could paint your house if you want to hire him to paint your house he could paint your house if you want to hire him to change your oil or your transmission. Also, you could buy life insurance from him, but he didn't dab in with a minion. He didn't with me. Anyway, I thought I I might get that in. Anyway, um therefore the says that in you should say after however in the it says the to say after now in the pl in where they say after the final kadesh the brought in the even if everyone heard in the beginning you could still keep the minhog Meaning let's say there is no one who came late. So you could still say it um as to not to be make a but if you're not worried about then the shots shouldn't just say unless somebody didn't hear. Okay. So very important. Don't just like be the guy who says bar. You need to you need to make an assessment that somebody needs to hear it. The fact that this is your contribution to the to to Jewish life. Okay. that that could be a very nice contribution but you have to make sure that somebody else needs it. Nobody else needs it. Now if if you have a guy who's going to start a mas then you could do it you're not worried about you have to make sure someone needs it. So therefore by shakus it's very questionable whether you could really do it unless you know that somebody missed by though um it's it's pretty common or usual or typical that there's going to be somebody who walks in after bar. Okay. Um now so I we asked the question really on nobody comes before I mean in what city? In what city is he referring to that nobody came after? No, the mish says even if a guy came after his stomach he he heard from someone who got so therefore by the way on Monday and Thursday you need to be very careful before you say after ding because in all likelihood everyone who came has already been there at least has been there for Okay, fine. Do therefore says that init on Monday and Thursday or on a day that has do not say after the ding. That's you do not say after the doning. What if somebody says after the ding? You tell them not to. You say you did the wrong thing. No, you don't have to shoot him, but you should tell him, right? It's the wrong thing to do. Now, what about in America? I don't know. You can't say it's not the min. It's still not the right thing to do on Monday or Thursday. Um now by the way it's interesting that the said that on Shabas if you don't say after kadesh basra why didn't the say on Monday and Thursday it seems like at least form which they do I think they do say it even on Mondays and Thursdays even though you could ask what do you mean they probably heard But maybe not. Maybe uh somebody came late after Chris. But Shabas, you know, you have to come pretty late because besides the, you know, there's a long shakas and the drussa. You know how long that druss was? Oh, sorry. No, I'm not going to I'm not going to uh impugn the Okay. Yeah. The order of and hagba. The order of and hagba is to say to the on Monday and Thursday. That's how the Rama starts. By the way, why are we on Monday and Thursday? I think some people say, "Well, Monday and Thursday you may days of so so we have to say no." I believe he went up to Shayim on he always went up and came down on a Monday and Thursday. Mondays and Thursdays are therefore okay in some places the min is before to say what if you're ding in a that they say and your is not says you you should uh change your minhug and do what the does. You have to you have to follow that. What if you usually say and you're ding so that they don't say it. Mosha says the way you say has to be in a way where people don't know you're doing it differently than the therefore if you're ding in it is to do that for it's likewise vice versa if you're dabbing um so if you daring inkul you cannot start clapping you cannot start doing you cannot do something that it's nicker that you're doing differently than likewise if you d and they're doing you can't be belting out. You have to do it in a way where it's not that you're changing from the also on a regular a regular day if you cannot clap. Likewise says, "Yeah, you want to do veto, it has to be yes without hakka agrees." Ver continues, okay, you say, you say it out loud. If you don't say it's standing, you're violating a legislation, you're considered breaching offense. Don't think it's a small thing. Oh, I'm tired. I'm just going to sit down now. No, it's a serious infraction. If you sit when you need to stand, it's a serious infraction. You're called a pirates especially for the long says the the way it was enacted was through a great miracle like it's brought in the it's published in the where the how the was legislated you need to say with intent and patiently and not quickly. The says if you don't stand for you're called says some say no you're not called a god there that's only if you didn't say it at all but if you say it sit sitting no you're not going to be called a parat a parad What if you evaluate that if you say the you're not going to be able to say it's better to say and skip and you'll make it up after. So in other words, if you're saying and they start putting their head down, put your head down. You'll make up the rest of later. And that could be a very relevant and because there are some shs that maybe they're not saying it It could be you'll find some places they don't say the words very slowly to say it standing. Oh says that is the min to say the standing says also the short that is said after you also have to say it standing because we say we've sinned. Now I want to share with you something amazing. I just saw on Shabas from you ever notice that short that you say before that has nothing to do with it's not connected to it is a vid that you say before you open up the final words are this is calling upon the Malik to show the ashes of referring to the remaining letters are the writes in the safe that this is the you should have when you say it is trying to encourage to show the rib A shall is the cherub 208 is and the final remaining letters spell out. Okay, I'll hold it over here. Recording stop.