Orchos Chaim of the Rosh #21 Don't Speak Before Hamotzi, Greet Every Person First

this torah class is brought to you by torahanytime.com okay good afternoon everyone we continue in the akhashem of the rush we are up to ois of the rush we saw from rebecca levenstein that there's a concept that the rush wrote it really for himself so this is not necessarily um according to the letter of the law or baseline but rather these are the pies practices that the rash demanded of himself and for us to aspire and emulate okay so we're up to is one should not speak between washing their hands and making ha might see and one should advance greetings to all people which includes a gentile actually that comes from the uh rabbi kim and zakai in ignorance zayn that nobody ever greeted rabbi menzaka before he first greeted them and that's a pretty impressive uh feat as rebellio destro writes that rabbi ahmed zaka was so involved in learning the gemara says he learned to all kala tarakula and he's the guadalajara and he's the roy sanhedrin at the time of the corbin and the whole responsibility for the jewish people rested on his shoulders and yet it never happened that he lost his vigilance to always greet the other person first even anakri bashak question is what do these two things have to do with each other don't speak between the tians yadayyim and hamitzi and greet everyone first i mean these seem like uh two random halachas that are being juxtaposed the first thing we see from here is contrary to what people think you are allowed to greet someone between nithyanandam and making hamasi that's what the rush says don't speak between the tel-si and greet everyone first that implies even between the talisman and hamilti greet everyone first it's a very interesting um now regarding not speaking between uh till sudam and mozi that's not unanimous by the way it's brought in brings two opinions some say that you don't have to be careful not to talk you just can't get involved in some kind of asec or some kind of other occupation and um but it would be permitted to talk and then the makhabar brings the yay showing which happens to be the opinion of the rush and that's what the russia is saying over here that you should be careful now according to this latter opinion the mission brothers says even sicho muettes even a small conversation would be prohibited now in robert salo julte's commentary on the rush that even this latter opinion who says uh you should be careful it's not me it's only a humra and therefore it's pashat that you're allowed to greet somebody in between if let's say a rav walks into the house you absolutely are you greet them between the tel siddhaim and hamasi because according to the first day you're allowed to talk and according to the second daya um it's only a okay now here's another halacha that is misunderstood if somebody did speak randomly between and hamilti as long as you are not messy it's not a problem now very often many people oh if they talk out they go to wash again why in the world are they washing again where'd they get this halacha from let them reserve their no talking for the basaknesses i think people have confused not talking in shul with not talking after the telstra dying not talking in shul is may iker hadin not talking after the telsidam is a homuraba alma so if you only have within you a certain amount of non-talking ability save it for the basic nessus and if you need to converse at a not acceptable time save that for an entire dime again it's better not to but first of all there are circumstances again you would be shy absolutely somebody and what exactly is the connection between aliyah being and being marked shalom it seems as follows remember the headline of the arkhashayam of the rash is he says hadvaram the things you should be careful to turn away from the pitfalls of death and to be illuminated in the light of life meaning there's certain minor infractions that are literally the pitfall of death and there's certain minor good customs that are the really bring a great eternal illumination and sometimes they seem to be somewhat contradictory there are some times that not speaking is a trap of death namely in between the telstra and sometimes greeting somebody although it might seem innocuous and minor is actually the um brings to eternal light okay base levare bless your creator that he satiated the soul that yearns if people curse you or fool or they shame you al yash of him don't respond allah love him be from those who tolerate so again the rush seems to join two unconnected ideas one is to thank hashem that he satiated your soul and number two don't curse someone and don't respond to insult so let's talk about these ideas the ramban rights in davarim that in the mid bar we didn't eat bread and we didn't drink wine and the ramban says from the time the mon fell until we got to adam we didn't even eat bread at all however in the 40th year as we got closer to human settlement there were adoimi mayavim who would bring us bread and water and the gadola yusra would buy bread and they would eat latainog not to be satisfied but just to enjoy what is the ramban talking about the gadolim broadband bought bread you would think the ameharets bought the bread and they didn't eat because they needed to they ate for enjoyment so it doesn't matter isn't that counterintuitive if you would have expected a report about who bought the food that wasn't needed and who bought the food for the enjoyment you would have thought it was the ameharez but no that's not what happened only the godola israel bought the bread as they were near the land of edom so rav goldberg uh explains in his commentary to achieve the rash that we know that the ibanezham created the world le hasaneg as the messil but hashem baseline created man for enjoyment the purpose of the enjoyment is that we should recognize it and thank him now the goddaugher israel who who ate the man recognized that their eating of the man was just to keep themselves alive but they wanted to have enjoyment to be able to thank hashem so they were the ones who went out of their way to buy extra food that wasn't needed to enjoy to be able to thank hashem but the regular folk who didn't feel they were on the madriga to eat extra just to thank hashem they figured if they're going to buy extra food it would be just to enjoy so they didn't do it it's an amazing thing that it comes out that the greater person is the more enjoyment they're allowed to have provided that the enjoyment is in order to thank hashem so here the ramban the the rash is saying bless hashem that he satisfied that soul that desires now what is this referring to surrey kenyawski in his commentary to the arkhasaim of the rash he says this is referring to saying burkha mazza in bikhavana that one should be careful levarec goldberg does not accept epshad because the focus of the words of the rush is not thank hashem that he was masbiyah your goof but rather he says al-hazbas hanefesh and he instead prefers to learn like that god infused in food not only the ability to satisfy the physical guth but to also sustain the neshama because everything in this world needs food physical and spiritual and therefore hashem put in food the kayak that sustains not only the goof but sustains the ruach as well and that's how a person is nourished the physical component of the food nourishes his body and the spiritual component of the food nourishes the soul and this what goldberg says is what the rash means that you should thank hashem when you eat not only that he nourished your body but he also gave nourishment and kayak to your soul through the spiritual power which is attached to the food now we'll speak tomorrow more about this concept to be among those who are insulted and not among um and not to react but what does that have to do with berks hamas so goldberger explains that somebody who recognizes and feels that he is not entitled to anything in this world and the food that a coach barclay gives him is a gift to satisfy his body that yearns and his soul that yearns so that attitude will allow one to be min hannah love in the in him of him but somebody who doesn't feel the need to show gratitude barco because they sort of take it for granted and they feel entitled to be able to eat so that will prove to be very difficult to be able to tolerate insult and lack of okay we're going to hold it over here thanks everyone for joining we'll see everybody does hashem tomorrow same time call to have a great night you've bye-bye experienced another torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com