Mishna Berura DH Siman 85 Seif 2 Thinking in Learning in a Bathroom If You Can't Control It

this Torah class is brought to you by Torah anytime.com okay good morning everyone we're continuing Sim yesterday Simon yesterday we learned even to think in it's us in a and in a and in a place of dirt which is a place that has and and even the laws of aat you're not allowed to learn in aat okay let's see Mish why M You Came the right time finally in P out it did the M didn't really say black and white why the bath house you're not to learn there's a lot of Filth it's like so I have to write that down you know in Sim we were trying to figure out exactly what's the issue with the the last words of but he never said outright that it's like now we're learning that filth is like by the way this opens up a whole new Avenue cuz I know of other places where I you know you can't put your finger on it but there's no better way to say it than there's like than there's Z or and here the saying it's what about DAV in a place where there's the that by the way it could be very common some hospitals they have uh I don't know a cross is not really aara actually course notara but they could have they could have icons R has a CH that cross is not aara okay um V what about going into right if you're like sort of uh thinking about and then you walk into a bathroom then the says it's m even though for you can't do it okay some someone who is so in learning someone who can't help it it's m what does that mean it's m you're anus of course it's m you could even you could do any a what's the what's the basic saying it's m what's of saying it's m he's saying that you don't have to distract your mind you don't have to go out of your way other words if you're not trying to think and Lear you just can't it's just going on its own he's saying it's let's see some say the some say even talk and learning you're never let it you're not talk in any situation about it means that you didn't do you have an obligation to distract yourself and certainly you're not a now there are two things going on over here there are namely the pr the the rejects that the the you could push off but the goes so far is to say that o means that if you did it and you couldn't distract yourself then you're but there to distract yourself I would humbly ask so then what's the of saying what I that there we know it says if somebody is a woman she's not because she's an we we all know there's something called we don't need the to say the din of O applies to Herer in the bathroom it applies to much worse things then Herer would be saying the preer wants to say that o allows you to talk the simple words of the B seem to be saying it might not allow you to talk but onus means you don't have to avoid it but the says no you do have to avoid it what what does it mean that o allows you to talk you talk about by accident it pops into your head so it's okay it's just sometimes when you're thinking of do you talk to yourself I want to ask you a personal question do you talk to yourself sometimes I talk to myself I I do I do sometime if I'm thinking about something I will I'll talk by the way look research it it's a it's a good thing but if a person talks TOS it's uh reflective of good thought process you could you could read up on that but do you talk I want to know do you talk to yourself it's it's good to answer yes so make believe you do okay it's it's it now you do it on purpose like do you try to talk to yourself or it's sort of more SP it's it's spontaneous although you probably could help it right it is spontaneous there are things a person does spontaneously that they do have control not to do even though I mean they're doing it out of spontaneity although they could stop themselves so the what the pra means is if you're a ruton and you're learning and you're thinking about it you could even let it flow you could let it flow in the bathroom I mean nobody unless realize you're no longer an what you realize you're not as soon as you realize what you're doing you're you're no longer so what are you allowed to do here is very strange you don't have to press the brakes then then it's not B anymore you're been amazed talking you're learning the bathroom I'm not B amazed it's it's it's it's msas it's msas could a masas stop himself is there any accountability on a masas it's a question whether a masas uh needs kapara yeah I think uh there's what to there's what to think about here V exactly what is this o what level of O are we talking about why can't the person and control himself and according to the that you B you have to do everything you can to avoid thinking about it so what exactly is saying of course okay you could talk about the Yankees in you know they used to have they used to have a a dial in to get the Yankee scores in yides and the highlights you know you call in and they they give you how many RBI this player had the whole thing wasn't either seriously so Ines you could talk about secular things Ines um to and I think we saw yesterday that if you speak in Israel it's not even to be if you speakes then it's not unless you say it's telling about if you speak not if you speak modern Hebrew yeah um where do we have this oh he brings the f the names that can't you can't say there if it happens to separate someone from in the bathroom you could do so even in Hebrew we'll say we'll see what this means the riv says's okay but not in a different language it's permitted since it's not that it doesn't matter what language it's in certainly names that are not that you cannot erase any name sh you can't say there even in a different language even though has no sanctity in its letters and your it's if you mention it in a dirty place like the name sh you're allowed to erase since has called it even though he's not designated by it you can't mention it if your intent is for peace and especially that for many things to um got or hashem's name in other languages has a of Shame Shame for other things for for example swearing or to say God's name in vain right you're not to say OMG oh my g-d you're not to say that it's user to say that it's prohibited to say that if you want to say oh my gosh then you stound you stom sound like a farmer from Nebraska it has no meaning why would you say that that's even worse I say that's even worse it's worse to be a fool than to be to violate an iser this is a well-known a well-known according to the B it's worse to be subhuman than to violate the T anyway moving right along what about to sayem are you allow to say hasem in the bathroom are you allowed to say Hashem fine you're allow to say them why sometimes people are called by these appellations that's only if you say as a the compassionate one the compassionate one because that's a proper reference or the says the says it's you could be let's say you are having improper imod thoughts and the only way to save yourself is by thinking about Mish question how you allow to do that you're allowed to think about t to save yourself from a why why you allowed to do one one AA to save yourself from a different AA you allow to think about learning to save yourself from herur what why you allow to do that bring more why actually it's not forur you're not but if you think about to in the bathroom it's it thinking is worse you ready for this what's the you're not allowed to learn and you're not to say's name in the bathroom it's a it's not a it's a b to the name of hem it's a what if it's not a Biz what if I'm doing it I'm honoring because I don't want to do an a meaning we asked what's in the that you're allow to you're allowed to think of's name what you me you're allowed to do anything but what's I need the to say so the goes so far as to say there's a not to to distract yourself but many say no maybe the is if it's it's not a the is you're not utilizing because it's an but you hear didn't say if it's everybody knows that says M what's m the is the is is based on if you're an it's not a b that's the in those who argue with the they say if it's against your will you don't have to go out of your way to distract yourself why it's not a business I'm not being M what do you want from me it just came into my head I'm not being M the name of hem maybe I mean that this would explain why you're allowed to be M the very T to be M you from otherwise how can you do one iser to save you from another iser okay think about it we'll hold it over here okay youve just experienced another Torah class brought to you by Torah anytime.com