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Mishna Berura DH Siman 114 Seif 3-4 Is There Any Way to Correct a Mistaken "Mashiv Ha'ruach"?

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progress okay good morning everyone we're continuing in we are learning Simon we began it yesterday the said if you said that makes the wind blow during the summer you didn't say makes the wind blow in the rainy season you don't go back because wind and do are never with likewise do you mentioned it in the rainy season say the do is not uh the even if you didn't finish the yet you don't go back since there's no obligation at all to mention when then do is going according to you don't go back since the the did not obligate you to say this and we we do not mention in the summer of we don't say okay let's see that in the when we ask we say even though do is never withheld but it's not always so we make sure to ask that it should be and in the summer we don't say if you said the words so in other words someone who if they accidentally don't worry you'll it's okay you so whether you mention it or you ask for it okay says the continu some say that stops mentioning in of the first day of P during M he stops mentioning why because the issue is we're not allowed to stop mentioning until it's announced but like we mentioned before you can't say don't say so stops mentioning it the mentions it in the sound they don't stop until because they already heard from there's no he to we discussed this that according to where there is no uh announcement when it comes to stopping in could say say but we don't say so then they have to wait until they hear it from the let's say like this a guy started late so he didn't get a chance to start musim until after already didn't say then he will not say anymore an individual who lives in an outlying area he should try to quickly before the so that he could not say like we were yesterday in the that there's an imperative to do the the way it's supposed to be done however if you D in then D you should wait to D because if you D too early you might have to still say what if you're not sure you're living in the hick in the bondock you don't know if the shav or not if the then you don't say if the didn't then you do say it better not to say if you're not sure what to do then don't say it that's very interesting it's better not to say it that's what the the end and you didn't say you don't have to go back because even if you miss of the first night of P you wouldn't go back because already you stop mentioning rain the first night okay if you said in the rainy season you have to go [Music] back and you go back to the beginning of the so like this you said in the summer you have to go back and to the beginning of the and if you finished the you go back to the beginning of even if you're in a place where they need rain in the summer if you mention rain instead of you go back likewise if you mentioned rain says the holy if even on the first day that they stopped mentioning rain let's say on the first day of P by if you mentioned or by the when he says the he also if he says he would have to go back how how is the allowed to in mus on the first day of su on the first day of P not say who announced it for him who announced for thein that he is allowed to not say isn't it to what does he say he says so that's his announcement okay so let's say he says so why can't what doesn't he have to say then not yet because he's saying he is the announcement what what why is that a problem you're right he's the announcement but what what's what do you mean he is the announcement what's the announcement he's leading the and telling her this is now what we're changing to what is he saying he's omitting but he's not allowed to of course you're allowed to make an announcement but how do you DAV saying you're use as a way not in his silence he he said it right in his he said wasn't he was saying a private okay and now that he's saying a public his job as the to you can't omit until you until there's a and there is no by the way there's no in there's no is there is what is the if that's the then why can't we announce before the because no because we don't say but we say it in the so announce it before DAV okay um so if you have to go back and you go to the beginning of the if you said you go back to the beginning of the and the reason is rain is bad for the world during the summer by the way even if you rememberin and there's no way to fix it in other words if you say and you remember now what do you do you say oh just joking you know how do you change that you're done you're toast there's no way to fix it it's only meaning you go back and you say because is not a but is a so there's no way to fix it says yeah why not just go back to the beginning say and say that would be worse than would be better mentioning it is a of is better you ask for something that it's a bad sign I think that's worse you know the I hear andash says the way you're Ming it is you say but why would I say because I I messed up I said why would I would ask why would you have to say just go back and say say said why do you have to why do you have to fix it by saying wrong words just fix it by omitting it it be longer than to say those to go back no I by the time you get back to the to that spot we have to say no just say you don't have to do the just go back to of itself that's okay once you start the the process to work maybe he means if um okay let's see um okay so if you made a mistake and you have to go back to the beginning of the but if you didn't go back to the beginning of only to uh you don't have to go back if you already finished if you already finished after you said the words that no that if you said you're not toast yet it's only if you finish the and you said meaning everyone says if you said you have to go back to the beginning of the but what if you didn't say what if you just said the of the is only if you finish the but if you didn't finish the maybe you could correct it by saying and that's the opinion of the but the says that after you say you cannot go back and correct it with now the here is not but earlier on but in later on and he does say that when you ever go back whenever you go back if you just said's name you could finish okay why do you have to go back to the beginning of the first three are considered like one and you don't have to go back and say the okay but I'm I'm not sure if somebody said so says there's no way to fix it Reb Yash says you could go back um and say is that or go back okay have a great day