Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 99 Seif 1-3 Davening After Drinking Wine

okay good morning everyone we're continuing in thank you raber for giving last couple of days we're in middle of sim T we're up to the in we're learning the of a drunk for for the said that if somebody drank wine or AAS he sh not DAV until the the effects of the wine are removed and if you drank more so if you could be then if you DAV your is a and if you can't DAV then uh your is a to and you need to Davin again when the effects of your alcohol have been removed now I want to correct myself because last time we saw the m who said that when a person do when they're drunk that their is a the added that it's also considered like you served so I understood it that by definition means and therefore applied it to somebody Who Davin if they have to use the bathroom however I don't think that's correct um by shik the gar has an explicit liod A It's A and B it's like your by when they have to go to the bathroom thear only says it's like a thear does not say it's like your okay and so if you are not able to be your your is not effective and even if the passed then is afterwards like a so up to the like you're allowed to make you're allowed to make even though you're drunk that's interesting to know other you allow to make even though you're drunk kishma the of kishma have the same as kishma to me that's very interesting because I was just in a situation on two occasions where I was M whether I should or not on the way to Australia think about this on the way to Australia you have a situation where the day changes but there's no new Sunrise it's a new day you cross the time Z your timeline not just the international timeline you crossed a Hal timeline it was Monday and then it becomes Tuesday do I need to dve in shakas again so that's a change in calendar date or weekday without a change in Sunrise on the way back at the opposite where there was no no change in the day in the calendar day but there is a new Sunrise so when I'm coming back from Australia to California so I'm going from day into the night so I'm experiencing a new Sunrise but it's still the whole time it was still uh Sunday so basically both of those are whether you DAV again okay so I'm gonna say I'm not gonna say cuz I can't make a okay you would make I go along with so if I'm saying once to say we had this before I'll tell you the truth I wasn't able to because there wasn't enough time in that small amount of time between sunrise and and Landing but I could have okay so whatever I'm just telling you this Mr says so in other words other you can make as a not will usually have the same Asma itself okay that is someone who's drunk so in other words what does it mean it has a d of that can't say says there are those who are lenient with why is different because you're requesting your needs I would have said a different reason why we could be make by because by it's not we had this many times when you're not so maybe you say sh as a drunk I'm not sure why that is not used over here men you will write down the question and according and according to uh the words of the okay I'm sorry second line explains thisi at L according to his words masi therefore you should be careful that you do not come to this namely to say to be in a state of when it comes to if you were drunk kishma do not exempt yourself from kishma m like says now I don't know why he's invoking and you the says you are all to say if you're drunk we'll see in a minute what the says if the wine if the effects wore off before passed then you should say over the in other words if you said sh is a sh and then the effects of the wine were off then say sh again nowas he mentioned two of so say even by the first not so Dr right but would the second thing apply where you're not able to be what for sure so I'm saying why when um so that when the says that's only if it's but if it's then he wouldn't be lenient way I'm not sure um because he's saying is like says no you could be lenient by he doesn't say that's only if and why don't we have a lenient leniency by sh that you're not by the way when when um we say if you got drunk don't P yourself from what about says don't make because why but you allow to make other bras if you're a if you're a shiker um now he the Mish says that you should not be lenient regarding sh to what the says regarding the says since you should say it um okay let's see what is by you could be even though you're a Sher this includes even benching which you can make it but if a guy's a sh he's not part of the minion could be he could be even though look in the is by um to the a is not able to be even now you're allowed to learn to when you're a Sher or a but you can't pass that you should not say um if you're all of this is if you're not a sh like light otherwise everyone would say you're like an imile and your exemp from if you said or you made a you're not exempt because at that time you and you would have to repeat whatever it is you did at that time okay the there are ways to have the effects of your wine wear off namely if you walk a mill or if you sleep so walking a mill which is 18 minutes or a little bit of sleep it wears off the effect of wine that's only if you drank or less if you drank more then certainly the Sleep makes you more drunk and the walking makes you more confused this that walking exacerbates the effects of wine if you drank more than that's if you walk on your feet if you're riding on an animal then the riding does cause the effects of the wine to wear off says the which is it causes the effects to wear off that is whether you're walking or riding some say when you ride it's only mil sleep will make if you drink more than the will make you more drunk that's a little bit of sleep if you drink a lot if you sleep a lot it will cause the effects to wear off another to remove the effects of wine brings later on that you should anoint the palms of your hand and feet with oil and salt or you should smoke tobacco why not sure probably because smoking tobacco kills you so once you're dead you won't be able to be drunk but you still might have a hard time uh you still might have a hard time uh davening anyway the K says you could drink vinegar that does it every time or eat cabbage or bitter almonds fine but riding will definitely be that it's not such an occupation see walking is harder so if you drank a lot it uh will make you more drunk not so riding on an animal um and here the Miss that's if you ride three M it all depends how much wine you had if you drank really a lot the walk is not going to cause the effects to wear off anyone who is drunk it's enough in accordance with how he feels he is able to dilute the effects of the wine ha meaning it's a personal thing it's very subjective and it's uh dependent on many considerations therefore nowadays we are not that careful with our wines which are like you know they're like grape juice nowadays if you drank more thanas you could DAV so that's interesting because we saw in the in the the is M by the so the question is you know nowadays let's say by the SAR somebody drank four cups of wine so then what you can't make the on the fourth cup because you're you're half a Shar according to the gr with the gr say you can't make that not why because our wines you know you have this to rely on our wines are not that strong and we D even if you drank more than other certainly if you in a we're not worried about a little drunkenness says this is going on someone who drank wine someone who drank wine is only we said he so him we say that our wines are not so strong and someone who's drunk who feel is an Abomination certainly you should be careful even for us I don't think uh people at a sar have a din of a shiker you know they're not a Sher even though you may have drank you know you drank before the meal oras or even less sometimes roas then you had a whole meal so what are you dealing with already you're dealing with the third and the fourth cup I don't think if you're a Sher after the third and fourth cup pal you know man it up I don't think you should be a Sher after three gimel and do so then you could you could rely on theama that what that our wines are not so strong that's to answer the custom that people are lenient I'm come it's still not correct after more than even though you drank a little bit there's no way to really wait until the wine wears off certainly nowadays nowadays anyway we don't have so much you don't have to be mid if somebody drank wine the also says that since will even in such a since you're so the question is would that apply to PM let's say somebody drank on PM now if he's a sh but if somebody just drank drank a lot of wine and now they want to dve so can we say they're being theah they have of okay they could have followed the to drink but there are opinions to drink so could the person who's A in such a state according to the that there's or you could say there's aah and actually it's not aah it's it's a to have it's a mitvah to eat meat it's a to have so then even though there's also there's no to do the sheer of more than you could rely on that in other words if somebody drinks a lot they're not drunk if you're drunk you can't D it no way around it but you're just a little bit High there's to rely on that that it's a okay okay R so we'll hold it over here and we'll pick it up tomorrow in Sim okay where where oh I missed that thank you so y um is um per is like why very good thank you say like you have both reasons you have the reason of I mean the perm is over so now what I'm not going to be able to wait until the wine wears off and number two wine we also don't have we also have wine yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure but according to the back in the day or for those who drink things on Perm other than y the thing is then you don't there's no Mitzvah to do that there's no indan to do that so you don't have you don't have the reason of uh the Mitzvah yeah what what you say ACC to the the wine wasn't real wi four giant giant ofne ass at the [Music] end well you mean the guy's a shiker or also according to the gr by the way it's only it's only but it's already you have to drink the wine so like what are you going to do that's situation of the of that are like is only so you know in this type of situation it could be it's what are you you know you have no choice you have to drink the wine okay say have a good day everyone call recording stopped