Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 89 Seif 1-2 Can You Greet Someone Before Shachris?

recording in progress okay good morning everyone we're continuing so last night I was at a and I on the way home I was in a car with RAB risen so I asked him some of the questions we've been dealing with firstly you know it's very interesting the said in in that if somebody made a mistake and he violated and he daved after 4 hours He he'll get credit for for but not for which is the same for a woman in other words a woman who DAV then a woman who DAV then will not get credit for man now the Mish said if you're going to DAV after four hours it's not P you're allowed to you should DAV as a because some say you're not allowed to DAV so Risman should women be told not to D then he said absolutely yes of course you're to tell women that they're not allow to do that they can't do it moreover you need to tell them that you're not to say kishma you're not to say kishma women cannot say or men you cannot say if you DAV after the so not only do you not get credit for daving you can fully DAV now the go is me by the way the gr is me which may be why in uh in some girl schools they tell them that they could it's not we say A and B you're not allowed to say after the uh next we wanted to know why the Mish uh did not sort of endorse the ofuda that if you're dingak after you can make a t Nam like this if I'm still allowed to DAV cuz it's not yet so I'm going and then in a half hour this will be the this will be the and I'll be daving shakas later in other words El I'm not allowed to DAV Shak this will be the Min I suggest that maybe the reason the Mish BR doesn't like it is because even if you're not a Dak because it's but it's not so you're not ding yes so [Music] um he heard that okay we're continue B in s Bas we read so far that once this man comes you're not allowed to go to your friend's door and say sham because Shalom is the name ofes but you're allowed to say morning of the master is good or in English we say good morning by the way it's very that we could we could learn an important from here that after daving yeah when you see someone what do you say you say good morning right you see a very important after this man if you see someone then you say good morning now even to say good morning before this man I'm sorry even to say good morning after this is only M if you had other reason to be near him but if you only went to him you can't say good morning you can't say you can't say you can't greet him in other words you can't go over to your friend before you once comes and say good morning now we're going to see what about if you said yesterday we saw in the Mish that this begins this prohibition begins from and it's not only going to your friend's house it's also leaving your Mak K and going to his Mak K and it doesn't matter if he's your father or your rebi fine now if you bump into him you could be if he's a to say shom because if you bump into somebody it might be permitted now we're up to the name of it's not permitted it's not it's not proper it's not proper to mention the name of God and to honor God or I'm sorry and to honor your friend before you honor so it's not permit it's not proper to mention God's name on a person before you honor hasem what if you say peace what if you say peace unto you meaning again you're not even allowed to say good morning if you go to his door first but if you have other business where you're allowed to say good morning the question is are you allowed to see peace onto you M that if you say the merciful one shall mercy on you or the gracious one should be gracious to you that's permitted by the way what about what is this talking about that then it's permitted why is this permitted you're because you're being with the name of hem but you're not how to say shalom maybe because that itself is a way of being you're saying the okay so to go to your friend's door you're not allowed to say shalam to say good morning that you could do if you have other reason to be to be there what about to say ma the says ma is different it's not like saying Shalom and even on I saw on somebody has a you're allowed to say ma that's not called greeting them okay you have to go through your friend's Courtyard to see whatever you have you go and you say it's sa what about some people by an they uh what's the yish expression what do you call when you you bring the to and you sing him to the what steelin I think okay sh Shin the shin not called bite to yeah that yeah that how do you like that yeah you like that okay um fine so so he brings over here if you want to escort the to shabas morning the brings it could be you could sing but you can say good morning you can't say why you have other business I have to be here anyway to to sing you to the to the sh I have to Shield fair in you anyway once I'm there I might as well say good morning anyway everybody knows that if you wish somebody good morning on chabas it's like you're a guy you know you can't say good morning shabas more good morning forget it you'll never get your family is doomed if you say say good morning to someone shabas morning are you allow to say good chabas you allow to go to someone's house and say good chabas no it's like saying good morning are you allowed to wish someone good chabas on the way to yeah of course cuz you're going to sh anyway are you allow to say to someone on the way to sh Shalom absolutely not you can't do it he's not going to talk to you he doesn't talk to you anyway you know no but you can't you can't say sh to someone on the way to sh you can't say sh someone on the way to sh right because it's only the heter of good morning is first of all only if you have other business so I'm on the way to show will call that other business there's no heter of saying Shalom to somebody even if you have other business so on my way to sh say good morning come up there other greetings top of the morning DAV and good it's great to see you you look wonderful you look terrible whatever you want to say but don't say sh don't say you look terrible either what we didn't we this is so far what we learned the M then says now let's say you ready start making if you already began to make the you don't have to be so concerned what does this mean then you're allowed to Bow if you don't go to his door to go to his [Music] door so now if you according to this if you started to say the what does that mean started to say the which let's say you said is that the is that good enough I would say I don't know if this is true that if you if you said with which you'll be then you could greet someone now which what do you need you need and I'm not sure I think we say it does do it does it so if you said and you meet someone on the street you could say sh but what if you know the guy didn't say shal is he allowed to say sh let's say you didn't say sh and a guy says and you didn't say yet are you allowed to respond of course not no I I'm not sure but I don't think so you say [Music] or you could hang you could have a you could have a card that says on it or better yet say before you go to fine now the M continues are you allowed to respond say I can't say I can't respond is that is that we had you didn't say you to respond I can't answer you because I didn't say like in the bathroom right we said that over there you you respond M that's her is going to be there's whether you're allowed to learn before okay let's say you don't go to his door I'm sorry I'm sorry [Music] um I I skipped the first de holds that if you're going to go to his door you can't bow some say you can bow even if you didn't go to his door even though you didn't go to his door you can't bow as a sign of deference the his if you began to say the you don't have to be so concerned so one second I just want to clarify the reading the first day of holds you can never say sham what or you can't bow some say um you can't bow right the first day holds you can't bow when you go to his door some say you can't bow even if you meet him now then the says if you said you don't have to be so concerned to do what then the says you could bow when you don't go to his door but to go to his door or even if you began is so you can't go to someone's door after and say sh but by the way which means you can't go over to someone in after and say sh even according to this DEA even according to this de if you said you still can't go over to him in sh so what's the Kola of this de the Kola of this de is that if you were Mas you could do or you could say sh and if you don't go to his door but you meet him you could give him shalam is that only if you began bra or even if you didn't begin bra and does the first de argue on this yes and when the says is that only going on I feel um Korea is that only going on it's going on the that Korea is even if you don't go to his door some say that even if you meet someone on the street you just say good morning so that you realize that you should not engage in other things before you D Ina it's going to come out like this if you see your friend in the on the street May you'd be allowed to say but the is not we don't do it we don't do it why just so you don't get C caught up in other words we're going to sounds like we're going to P in like the that um but this and who is that who is this this is of LUN however the the and the r says that if you see your friend in the street you shouldn't say sh that's even if you always do why even though not to do what you usually do now this is very interesting what if somebody usually [Music] says e e e