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Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 124 Seif 2-3 Do You Need To Wait For The Rabbi To Start Davening?

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okay good morning friends we're continuing we're learning we're middle of the said in that that comes to a and he sees that the is ding quietly and he has to already it's time for him to say k he'll go straight into the kar and he does not have to repeat and first say the silent or if it's a you're afraid this will pass then you could immediately and the Will D with him word for word until after however it is best in that situation that one of them should be appointed the up to the in that case we're basically you know four minutes to and you have no choice the has to say the now because you cannot do everyone and then you're going to have because what what will happen then is uh the is going to miss the so therefore you start the right away but then nobody and everyone is going to be and uh saying it along word for word the problem though is nobody's answering aain to the shots is bra so what you do is everybody um you you leave one person over to be able to answer to the says that's in a situation so you'll ask in other words what do you mean you have one guy left over to answer aain but when's that guy supposed to D so I would have said okay you find the guy who D already but the says it's not so pressing you're just afraid maybe the time will pass but if it's very pressing it's enough that children will say or if it's appoint someone that already DED to answer if it would be easy um if it would be easy otherwise otherwise don't be on this at all and let everybody just and ask we say in that if you don't have nine people being to the it's close for to being so then why why over here do we say only if you could get someone to answer you should otherwise it's okay without it they already quietly the guy saying only for but here this is the guy so if nobody answers big deal it's not such a big deal if nobody answers a m because this is his silent in this case he's only ding one time so what's the big deal if he doesn't have somebody to answer a because he's not ding again anyway a community that they D and they're all do you need to say nevertheless the needs to go down and he DAV again in order to the if there are individuals in the community that are should not wait for them even if they are important if there are in the that are in their then the should not wait for them even if they're likewise if there's a minion in a Bas don't wait for the person who's running late so two saying if you have a bunch of you have some individuals that there are being in their should not wait for them even if these are people and like wise if let's say you have a minion and it's ready to start just person didn't roll in yet don't wait for him don't wait for him so this even though everyone's a you still look earlier in I guess if he's telling us to look there we should look there that's the laws of P Al that if there are people that they daved each one by themselves and they didn't hear not kades kadus then they could be P okay to repat the rabbis didn't require okay let's do a search now are there any in the raise your hand if you're a full-fledged so we can know if we should say they can't do it that way always repeats the they were Ming it because maybe one time there'll be someone who's not ay and the shots will be okay why do you not wait for individuals that are still D because of nowadays we wait until Waits until the abz finishes his and nowadays um most people too quickly so he the gives the shots waits for because most people D too quickly someone who every word won't be able to say therefore they wait for the all those people that finish quickly they're not doing the right thing if there's no you need to wait for someone who says every word don't wait for someone who DAV a lengthy DAV for someone who DAV each word carefully the if meaning someone who actually says every word let's say like in many places the is let's say the they say every fourth word right as just like a token gesture to the concept of so if you if you say every fourth word you're able to finish in the allotted amount of time so it's saying how long should you wait don't wait for a guy that's Mar wait for a guy that says every word now if let's say sh was waiting for the rabbi and it's disturbing the rabbi that you know the pressure that the was waiting for him so he could motion go ahead now it's interesting said earlier that if someone's still doing you should wait for him even though you have a minion so that he can answer kades says if he if he's you don't away from him for him and says here we're talking about for kadus and for kadha even if you start right away he still has time to finish up but regarding kades if you start then he's going to miss the whole Kadesh by the way the the remash says that the should also not be in his so okay now the M continues an example of a very long is like what they said about I'm sorry the RAB even though he DED a long when he down with the D short someone who needs to D long and he's afraid they're going to mock him he's allowed to take three steps back when the shots begins even though he did not finish his then he takes three steps forwards and he finishes and in all these circumstances is if your it's okay now why how you allowed to take three steps back in because you're so distracted that if you don't do that you won't be able to now if there is a minion in the sh don't wait for an even if it means that you're not going to even as an individual need so that the time doesn't pass because once 10 people are in the so who are you waiting for nowaday to wait for the the reason today in Jewish cities the Min is to set a time with to learn after daving if the minion would have starred right away before the gets there then by the time ding is over people are going to run home and they're going to lose out on the then everyone is going to go on his way it's going to and set learning after is a great indan you should not delay because of this meaning the reason we're waiting for the AZ to start is because if we don't wait for him and he and theor starts then you're he's going to be running behind and when the ding is over people are going to leave and they're not going to stay learn with him but you should only wait for him as long as you're not going to miss says the rabbi has to make sure to come early to so they don't have to wait for him so even though yes they should wait for him so they don't lose the the she he should he should come early so they don't have to wait for him so I guess they have to come on time to the shear also okay RAB say have a great is this lit only what to do same thing with if the if the r gives it's not all because after just that's the I that's what we do do they I mean the doing starts at a certain time no not true I every day truth is wa for am minutes that point uh I think in many yeshivas the T the man is this man you know I think in this man is this man so you know when the time is Cold they start yeah and