Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 102 Seif 2-4 Walking By One Who is Davening Shemone Esrei

okay good morning everyone we're continuing learning B we're up to some say that this of which comes from remember we had three opinions one should not sit in the four cubits of someone who's daving in front of him on the side you have the distance for am so the first Daya was if you're involved in daving anything not an issue the second opinion was that even if you're involved in learning not an issue the third opinion was that these dispensations is only on the side but not directly opposite and the like the first de that you could be lenient even however other say you should like the that in front of him it's an issue um and one should also be M like the first de that learning is not enough you have to be daving in other words if you want to be lenient uh you would have to be daving on the Side Learning on the side no daving in front no but if someone is's weak you know someone who's known to be weak he's not able to he's allowed to sit because his weakness is uh reflective on him that because of that he sat down to sit on the side of someone who's daving but in front even if the person is weak you can rely on this opinion if it's not easy to EAS if it's not possible to easily distance for so someone who is weak weak let's say um basically if you finish and a person is weak and he's clearly weak he could sit down even though the guy next to him is still ding the grandfather INR if you already sad and then the guy decided okay I'm going to come and next to him so once the guy already sat then uh we don't make him stand up because the the second guy he uh came into my territory get out of my territory who asked you D next to me go ding in the coat room were you ding yesterday no I'm just joking but um you don't have a right to to sit next to me and make me stand up to get up even in such a situation say what the what the guy who wants to DAV he needs to distance himself four cubits from son sitting this then that a guy can come after I already sat down and start Ding and make me get up that's if I'm in my house but if it's a set certainly because this guy this is his so you can't say well he's coming in your he's not coming in your he also has a seat do who it's designated for everyone the D brings down this supplies to women as well even in the woman section what if I bought my spot and you're sitting in someone else's seat so you're coming to my border I I bought the seat you know my father was sitting in the seat my grandfather was sitting in the seat I was sitting in the seat since the times of K no even so it doesn't matter you can't uh you don't have uh you don't have rights that you could say I don't have to stand however if you're already learning then you don't have to if a guy comes next to you and starts certainly is teaching students and then all of a sudden a minion starts they don't have to get up it's not even to get up under these circumstances mid it would beid to get up even if your grandfather in sitting you know why not because you need to get up is because he should not have Davin there so you're causing him to Davin in a way where he's causing you not to get up so to remove the from your friend and your sitting is a g for the listen to this this is a Whopper so you're sitting already he key starts ding next to you do you have to get up absolutely not why cuz I'm grandfathered in is it a is it a gai yeah what you're doing is a gai but I don't have to get up he it's it's on him the gai is on him not on me the gai is what he did he caused someone to be in a sitting position during next to a so therefore the is that I now have on my Aros that I have a certain responsibility that I caused another Jew to create a so therefore it's to get up okay so is sit down within four hour of someone daving s is we're not talking about sitting down now we're talking about passing by walking through um s um so it's user to pass by someone who's daving within his for passing by is only in front of him on the sides you could pass by and you could stand so even though many people there's a certain Mitzvah many people don't like to do it's a very big Mitzvah it's it's a very underrated Mitzvah you know shabas everybody likes to keep but exercise the Mitzvah of exercise many people don't like to do I once heard from aor Miller how do you know it's to exercise says like this if you have to be to keep more shab to be around right let's say someone's life is on the line you have to be to say to save someone's life so he could keep more shabas certainly you have to exercise to be able to keep more shabas so I personally asked him if Inka they did the B did exercise and he said yes every single day I said what kind of exercise do they do he said they would walk to a far away dining room I said should a Jew exercise on chabus he said absolutely he said yes anyway so the thing is many people they don't like to do exercise except when it comes to sh in sh people start pacing so even though yes exercise is very holy activity the sh is not a track and field in sh you're supposed to stay in one spot and especially in not a walk by somebody who's daving but that's only on in front of him not on the sides why says because your someone's by walking in front of him um what do you do ifle a child urinated so he wrote in Simon Sadi you're allowed to be but what what if that means to be from the you have to walk in front of who's daving you do you continue to DAV even though you're in because the is of daving in front of is more lenient than the is of walking in front of some you hear this why because there is a Chua of the rash not a cha the that the the reason I mentioned this is just you get a glimpse into the of not walking by um someone so you want to know what is concerned in front in front certainly means in front in front let's let's see let's see the next one second even if you're involved in even if even if you're involved Ina um you can't walk in front of someone's daving it's not a different reason it's not because you're disturbing him the guy the guy's eyes are closed he doesn't doesn't know if you're walking in front of him if you're interposing between him and the what about what about you know like 45 de in front of him on an angle is that in front of him or only directly in front of him so or the sides that you know you could he could still see according to the m it's like in front of him according to the the same thing by the said earlier that you have to be and when it's behind you or on the sides only said that if it's like and it's like on the side so this is like a how do you define in front of him who asked RAB ya asked that how do you defin um in front of him the and the M says 45° in front of you is in in front of you um what about 60° I don't know I don't know at what point it starts to become or um I don't know you know it's we I don't know if we find that that's what the m is because you know the the reason for the reasons that's no I I don't know that we necessarily find that not sure sitting is the problem to the side walking on the side ini walking is only a problem in front right walking is only a problem in front sittings a problem on the side walking next to a person is not a problem sitting next to a person is a problem right ping next to person be a problem not what pacing next to next to a person who's ding to an asay or it's not an is to It's just in front pacing next to yeah that's what he says to yeah right saying if you're running so fast if the guy has a Sweat Band on you know and uh you're pacing on the side you're going to interrupt the guy anyways also so if you are yeah um right jumping jacks or St flips okay according to the you can't walk on the side so that's not to pass when it says you allow to walk on the side is you walk and then you stop so that you don't reach in front of him meaning you're walking on the side and you're stopping so you're not opposite in front of him because if he could see you even though it's on the side in front of him it's like in front of him and it's so I'm not sure how that fits into what he just said in according to the oaba is okay and here he's saying it's not okay yeah I'm not sure by the way I want to um I just want to point out if you look in the the of is not only a din in uh A din in he says either or you're interposing by the says you can't pass in front of him when someone saying SH now the says that's only the first POS of shma not the whole Sha then he brings what if the guy's Talis is draped on his face you have many people that they drape their face now in Long Island it's a it's a federal it's a crime now to have a mask on your face so I don't know if that applies to a Talis but so many people they cover their whole face in a and therefore they tal so maybe if the guy's Talis is over his face I am aad to walk or do we say um that the reason is because you're M between the guy and the it's not going to help if he has his tal Z and cup okay covers specifically to yeah but everyone's peeking most people peek what no assuming you're not it's only for the reason you're saying by sh yeah there's no you have to cover your eyes no thear says that rebi rebbi Reb did it but it's not not not required um also the points out that if you look in the he only applies it to the first P but that's not how the says it doesn't say that you know it's only going on the first um now but I'm not sure here why the okay so let's see according to this it's certainly user to go and to stand opposite his face within his for who says so according to the it's and says it's only but to go and to stand it's even so this is another between the one says passing passing STM according to the and according to is not here it seems like there's a little bit of a different discussion where you're passing through and then you're stopping so let's say you're passing through and you're stopping cuz the said and the understood that to mean you stop where you are so you don't end uped because if he's able to see you even sh it's going to be and certainly you can't stop NE but holds you could even walk only but to stop you could do it even directly in front of him I don't think that's talking about me there's another we know you're not to walk in front of someone could you walk and then stop in front of him the M says no says yes I think that's a different than one says and one says can you walk and then stop and the says the D that you're not to walk in front of someone is if you pass by but if you stop dead in your tracks you could do it the reason is because you're being M between him and the why would you be allowed to do that but if the reason is for kavana maybe it doesn't the guy kavana if you stop they're arguing about um there there two there are two one is is that or is that not like but and then there's another can you walk and then stop directly in front of a guy so to that the says you could do that also that's what the says you're not to pass by a okay let's hold it here and tomorrow we'll start with okay recording stop