Journey to Greece 2024: Athens - Philosophy Vs. Science

this Torah class is brought to you by Torah anytime.com okay good morning with your permission can I share with you one more thing okay we're in Athens I want to share with you something that I heard in the name of Ric I want to present it to you I want you to think about it I heard this from reveral Shar personally and I it's also in the biography of and it's based onar I want you to think about it there's a famous would compare himself to the kings of the nations of the world would say the kings of the nations of the world they sit in royalty they sit in pump and ceremony but they're not willing to get their hands dirty but says my hands are soiled my hands are dirty bedam with blood sha vilia a placenta and a uterus in other words like many R sometimes they have to look at Mar so it's not uh you know it's not the cleanest job but somebody's got to do it so literally is saying the the nations of the world they sit in pump and ceremony but I get down and dirty what exactly is saying so would say what is the nuda and the difference between yav and is the yanim believed that the greatness of man was only in his mind thought philosophy probing the mysteries of the universe for them menial labor was considered demeaning working the land was considered demeaning therefore when the Greeks were trying to discover the mysteries of the universe they wanted to know about gravity they thought about it they wanted to know about the water system they thought about it they wanted to know about biology they extrapolate they thought about it but we don't philosophize is they do experimentation is follow science they experiment when says my hands are dirty with SH V because we don't believe in philosophy we believe in experimentation so what does that mean it sounds almost the opposite it sounds like we believe in science we believe in experimentation I want to share with you ran the ran in the beginning of Al asks you know there's a a Shila in the gamar could could a trfa live or or not could a traa survive or not you know what a trfa is tra is an animal that has a mortal wound and the question is could an animal survive 12 months or not and the ramban asks the question how do you can't have Aus about that get a thousand animals and do an experiment say will never argue in you know why how do you argue in reality just experiment the gamar is full of experiment that conducted but the Greeks would never experiment they would philosophize they would think they would probe and whether their conclusions actually were coincided with science or not was not relevant to them to them the reality of what they saw before their eyes did not have bearing on what their minds told them but in there's a famous rule in lambas anybody who learned in Yesa knows you can't have a why so one of the reasons is because just experiment mean the ramban is writing the ran is saying the would never argue what a tra is cuz they could easily take a thousand animals put them in a pen and see whether the TR live or they don't live now by the way a support to this idea is from thear that we uh that we learned yesterday the thear says asked and they were discussing how long it takes for a snake to give birth so said seven years so the Greek said three years the Greeks said we saw so says your experiment was faulty because everybody knows whenever you experiment it has to be an authentic experiment but those snakes were already four years pregnant so again that shows that the Greeks were not transparent in their process of experimentation so this is another idea of the difference between and in other words we will not rely in just based on philosophy alone it has to be something in other words this is in a certain sense the opposite of what many think uh intuitively but when it comes to the will integrate the real ity of experimentation even more than any other nations of the world okay good you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by Torah anytime.com