Hilchos Purim: Daydream During the Megillah

this Torah class is brought to you by Torah anytime.com okay morning so we're going to speak about today um we have two the first one is subject the second one is okay this one is M and it's somewhat of a frightening onion and uh not not P at all um first of all we know in the there are four opinions of how much of the we need to Lan there's the opinion of and May from from but we pass in like mayor and we discussed this we hold a you need to hear the whole okay you need to hear you have to read from the beginning and therefore the Mish says it's hearing the let's say you came late to and you came when they said right you you you just missed the word you don't get 80 80% credit you don't get 99% credit you get zero credit you didn't hear the Milla you're notah you catch up yourself there are a lot of things you could do but if you didn't you're not y okay now the question is though what if a person did hear every word but he was not really focused and listening to to every word for example let's say a person checks their phone in middle of the Milla or let's say a person learns in middle of the M let's say you get a phone call by the same thing in the she just like you can't check your phone during a Shear can't check your phone first not for the re it's not for anybody else just like you can obviously your phone is off during this year you can't check your phone during the Milla if you check your phone during the Milla why but I heard the word what if a person says you know I'm just going to go into the the and I'm going to listen to M I'm going to learn G while I'm at it see what are you talking about well look at number three this comes from a one of the today it's obvious that if you EST Lish yourself to learn or to look into other things during the one of these these papers on the table I don't know why they put papers out on the table on the sh par papers for what for what you know to do a look at it during Kadesh you not to look at during you're not to look at during when you allow to look at it when ding's over everybody goes to The KES no no I never saw anyone reading a parha booklet during a KES so what what the parha booklets for but anyway if let's say a person looks at the para booklets during the during the Milla well there's no question the sound waves the vibrations that emanated from the hit your eard drums so I heard it what do you want from my life all I need to do is hearid to get there the answer is we have to establish what is listening what is listening listening is not the words hit my eardrums sorry listening is not the words hit my eard drums listening is not that the sound hit my eardrum because I was there listening means you're thinking about what you're hearing otherwise he not listening Okay [Music] so we've just established the following listening is not that the sound hit my eardrum listening is that you're paying attention to what you're hearing he brings a r in the footnote the following R to go hear the Milla I have a very simple question what do you mean Valen it's not you know why cuz I learned during the m and I won't be why does the say I'll learn during the answer is yeah you'll learn but you won't you won't be so you see from here that if you learn during okay we're good with that that's that's the premise of the Shar oh you don't have to follow what long as you pay attention right now we're saying that if you're it's not enough to hear it you have to be thinking about the word that's being said fine the that being the case it is obvious what if somebody is listening to the Milla but in Middle his mind starts to wander he starts to think H when's the basball season starting when is the draft when's NFL draft a lot of things on people's minds when am I how am I going to pay my bills this month a lot of things people think about what's going to be when's the doing going to be over when's the guy one are the people going to stop talking and disturbing there are a lot of things that people could be thinking about if your mind wanders why because the Mitzvah is to hear and hearing we've established is not that it hit your eardrum you're thinking about well the few moments that your mind wandered you weren't thinking about so she said that nobody ever in the history of the un was ever well that's the pro that's that's the issue we need to deal with over here how is it humanly possible to be Migel it's not enough that it hits your e drum you need to be thinking about but who could possibly be thinking about every word I mean everybody most people most human beings their minds will wander during Migel Esther a total of a thousand times right the way the human mind works to wres you know you could you could in Middle OFA you could travel the world right first what you do Isle you think you know I didn't really like breakfast this morning I hope I have a better breakfast tomorrow tomorrow I have a dentist appointment but the D you know the dentist was born in uh New Jersey I have a cousin who lives in New Jersey who just went to South Africa in 3 seconds you ready you traveled around the world right so that that's the way the mind works so how you supposed to be if you weren't focusing because regarding those words it should be like you didn't hear it see you say you're being very M over here you're telling me that a listener needs to be focused on the word for it to be considered hearing why should that be maybe we have a more liberal definition of listening listening means that you it hit your eardrum and you like the fact that it hit your eardrum how do we know we have such a strict definition of listening ladies ladies please no conversation thank you um so that that's the question how do we know halachically that the definition of listening is that you need to focus on the word that is being said okay so we're going to bring a number of Ras that Hally that anytime you utilize if you Daydream does not work so this is a very important let's say during KES if you're not making KES you're listening to KES you have to be are people really listening they're there in the room they're somewhat listening are they focused on the words being said not really not really well that's a problem but it's not as much of a problem as M you know why because KES if you space out for certain words of Kes as long as you heard the in the beginning and at the end you're good to go so you missed a few words in the middle but it's the most thing you have to hear every word so if you space that and you didn't hear every word that problem well let's try to let's try to bring uh some substantiation to this idea that listening has a higher definition look at number four let's say someone forgot or somebody let's say or somebody let's say um omitted something that they would have to repeat the right very interesting right here's a guy and he forgot for or let's say it's this time of the year he forgot and he has to repeat very simple stop and wait for and so stop stand with your feet together don't interrupt don't talk and you'll take three steps back why even though normally only but this guy already DAV he forgot he could be fine interesting right that somebody forgot he could just listen to the says the you can't do it why look on the third line of better to D in yourself like we do why most people cannot be and not allow their mind to divert from the beginning till the end who could stand there for five minutes without their mind wandering nobody could do that if your heart if you get if you D dream or you get distracted you don't hear from the a few words then you're what makes a better voice cuz you said it you said it you said it but but now you're being with if your mind well if you say the word the Mitzvah is to say the words I said words you're not going to do the same thing the second go we had another situation there's one second when you say this it's just to say the words I said the words doesn't matter what you think there's know that if you if your mind wanders when you say the words is but now you're trying to be and we've defined what we see from the Miss is means focused on the words not not that you heard the words focused on the words and if your mind wanders for a moment during a word which is so you see from here very clearly very clearly that the definition of Shia is not that it hit your eardrum definition of Shia is what that your mind was focused on the words so let me ask you a question what's longer or M is five times the size and if the shu is saying that nobody could be could do nobody so this is a problem cuz if we're not anymore nowadays using sh on something so long then how could you use it on something much longer another proof another proof look at number six really maker had during mum if you're making a mum the not only says he also says the entire benching out loud and everybody else just listens that's the way to do it not everybody benches not m is one person benches look at number six so you bench I that's why I like to lead fine but I I answered you and I don't bench I just listened you want to know what you should do nobody listen for the next couple minutes of the year it is correct listen to this it is correct that every one of the says quietly with the even the end says really only the should make the everyone listen why is that better no why would it be better if the M makes the and everybody listens why better for one person to do it than for everyone to do it separately even though really the answer is is that nobody could pay attention anymore and therefore already in the times of the He suggests that let everybody say the benching themselves because there's no way that a person is going to be able to listen the whole time to [Music] the now here the Mish doesn't say the exact reason we said earlier that people can't focus he says worse than that people are going to talk maybe the reason why he says that is because in the times of the we know people could focus the is the one who gives the that if you're not sure if he said it listen to the the but here the Miss is bring another issue here's another example here's another example look at number eight the tour I have a question question in hillquest when they D in does everyone D in or just says the and everyone just listens everybody everyone down here in h in Hill Crest everybody D no you know why the rush says that's that's the right thing to do we say it with the the why for the two minutes it takes to say Anda there is no human being alive who could focus for that long after all it's the ADHD generation who could focus for 2 minutes back a thousand years ago nobody could focus that long and therefore they you should say it together with the shot but you'll say what about the few people that could focus even if you did listen to the shots but what if your mind your day dreams for a few moments in in in Middle if your mind wanders it's not so here we have as as clear as they black and white the tour says that if you're using and your mind wanders and here he saying it on a two-minute thing and he's saying you can't be whatever you say because your mind's going to wander but if you said the words is not integral so here we have three examples the is bothered over here who cares if your mind wanders so you missed a few words but the it's not right there's no if you missed a few words the middle it's not the end of the word the world even if you omitted them completely you could still be okay that's that's an issue that the deals with but here we have three clear proofs that in the world of it's not as simple as you think okay everyone's standing at the table standing at the table that doesn't cut it are you focused on every word that the leader is saying and if you're not then then Le what makes the Milla at that level that if you mind wand a little bit of any word me time Milla even though you understood the basic concept of what happened we pass like may we passing have to hear every word and we're just proving what makes it that level what do you mean what makes it I mean reading this Torah yeah you also have to hear every word uh but it's not it's not okay if you miss the word it's like a hybrid on the on the has to hear every word you can't you can't walk out for one word you walk out for a word can't you can't leave unless you have an oess butel the has to read well I'm just proving to you we have three Ras that when you use it is necessary not only to hear the words it's necessary to focus on the words that you're hearing which is a problem because if it's not humanly possible to do and you can't even do it on a three minute thing like how in the world are you going to be what about chauffer it's not you don't have to say words but you have to hear same with same thing witha if you're looking in a safer duringer you're not I mean as long as you heard uh the basic 30 or whatever or maybe but even with the 30 I mean takes you have to be focused you have to be focused on the you can't you can't be thinking about other things it's very no it's notare it's fair that people don't do it what's on the to be to be the people but that's only a one time kavana in the beginning he doesn't have to think every word for them for them for them it's one time one mindset in the beginning but if he's not focused he doesn't have to be focused he said the words what does he have to be focused no if if he if he's not he doesn't have to be focused he could be thinking about any he could be thinking about pizza the whole time you see say he could be in outer space he reads the words there's no is not is not again is not but is and in order to do you need kavana there's no there's no in of but if you're not MIT because you had a failing of some sort are you still y say other people what do you mean for example again I just said he doesn't his mind doesn't during the so he's kind because be yeah because yeah he's just he's not same thing with the one that's fing the Milla the Miga the guy is why would he not be but if his mind wers I just said kavana is not kavana is not but is so the question that we have to deal with first which is a little bit of a safety hatch is that if we brought three proofs from three different that doesn't work if your mind wanders then why doesn't could somebody tell me why doesn't anybody say this by I mean says says that you can't be because your mind will wander and the says you can't be benching because your mind will wander and the rush says you can't be because your mind will wander so could somebody tell me why didn't anybody say that you can't beill because cuz your mind will wander I mean that's 10 times as long this is not practical it's impossible so he should have said you're not y exactly yes so what do you want him to say so so what's your alternative that they are y you're not y but it's not true it's wrong so why doesn't anybody say that not no don't say that that that's no just not not correct thinking why would why would the miss that one should read the Miga right after the fast and not break his fast first cuz he can't eat before he do a Mitzvah the everybody concentration okay you concentrate better when you're fasting then 7:00 at night once you eat your mind is clouded with with all kinds of R your mind is clearest on a Tinus bottom line is if all the P say you can't do you can't do you can't do you can't do benching then how are you supposed to do why doesn't somebody say you better be Focus well the says like this it could be the reason why the don't mention [Music] it because there's a cloud by migu that we don't find anywhere else that is let's say you hear two people blowing Sher at the same time let's say you hear people two people laning at the same time let's say you hear two people saying at the same time but if you hear two people laning in The Mill at the same time why so beloved it's possible to hear two things at the same time are they Ling huh you show not no are they Ling the same works together yeah or even yeah or even if not maybe even if not how could how could you heard both you could hear two things at the same time because you love it so much you'll be able to pay close attention so could be the reason why the Pim do not mention this is because it's obvious nobody's mind is going to wander there's so Migel Esther is so endeared by people they'll be so focused on it it's not necessary to say don't do because people's mind people listen to M on what basis do we make that assumption based on the cloud because the gar says it's kiv we have a cloud by Milla we have a principle it's kiv but practically man it's very difficult to say such a thing it's not true man people's mind want wanders I don't think anybody here will say yeah I love meler so much my mind doesn't wander and that is why there's a CH the who theover of of [Music] um after shapo he if you sat and You by the Milla and your mind wandered so the problem is now the good news is that at least you'll get three you get you get and you get sud but according to him unless you're laning the Milla you ain't getting M Milla I assume by that yes they had no noise during by mam because that clearly will be a disruption and cause your mind to wander it's impossible not no no but if you made no if they made noise to to to okay so that's why the B repeats the word Ham on after and this way he writes very clearly that the definition ofia is not that the sound hits your eard drums but rather you are focused on it which is a big problem which is a big problem how in the world are you supposed to be so well you're going to say that no one in CL so except for thear can't say such a thing but what are you supposed to do the says you can't you can't even do on the rush says you can't even do it on how are you supposed to do it for M it's almost he's telling you you have to read it yourself it's the only way if you read it yourself say the yeah so if you're saying it quietly along with the then you're good if you can hear the words no even what well you have to hear your own words right well if you don't hear yourself saying it it needs to be it needs to be but your neighbor going to get angry the pro here's my here's my problem with people who lay the Milla to themselves most people are not about they will not pronounce the words correctly do you know if it's or if you don't pronounce it correctly you're for sure not even change the meaning of the word um or it depends depends where it depends when changes the meaning of the word now that some of the make that the word means what it's supposed to mean it doesn't mean the way you say it that's good but still the yashab the Y there's no question you're not y if you don't pronounce it correctly so you're going to say it along I don't recommend saying it along with the B unless you know you're confident that you know every word so the question is how are you supposed to be melas Esther so that's what we're here for today now I just want to I want to clarify this idea that listening is not just the sound hit your eardrum but there a certain level of understanding is this is needed to be considered hearing yakob tell me something in Persian something I don't know you asked me to repeat it I may not repeat it correctly yeah very good tell me some other stuff I said CH I thought it was LE okay will you tell me a sentence in another language even though I heard it I may not even be able to repeat it why cuz if I don't understand it I'm not even hearing the words you know if somebody speaks very quickly in another language if you're not familiar with the language you didn't you it hit your he jums but you didn't hear it that means Havana is needed for sh he brings even in English you go down south a real Southern and they L to Southern to speak many times you can't understand because the accident so what do you see what do you see from there you see that hearing is not just the sound waves hitting your eardrum hearing requires for example in the paragraph in the middle of the paragraph someone who hears and is not does not hear at all those words proof is if you hear a language that you don't recognize now don't you understand it you can't even hear it even if let's say I start saying it along with you I'm not going to say it correctly the only time you'll be able to repeat what the person said is if he enunciates extremely carefully but if he doesn't if he just speaks Kad you won't even hear it let let alone understand it so therefore says the K Glover in the paragraph that begins the AL see [Applause] that someone who understands m if he's not paying attention and his mind wanders he is not considered listening so what do you do their answer is there's only one you ready for the now only listen if you want to be someone who's looking in [Music] the if every time you check yourself you are following along in other words if every time I catch myself I'm up to the right place that meets the threshold even if your mind wanders because that means you're focused on the word being read enough how do I know I'm focused because I'm up to the right place that level of focus he paskin meets the threshold of Shia in other words the whole time my mind could be what I'm going to break my fast on but obviously my mind is enough on the Milla that I'm able to know which which word I'm up to then yat but if let's say middle Milla I'm like where are they up to oh here hopefully you be to M tomorrow morning well that's what I try to do so I have a Kos Milla I try to you don't need a kosha Milla okay but I'm telling you it's difficult especially when the kids make noise with the Hummer you're listening to to try to follow along and be exactly on the same word as the as the Valk it's not simple you don't have to again not to say along no no no you just to follow with my eyes it's very hard you there's always some sort of distraction you miss it and you're behind a word or two and you try to catch up in your on mind to where the B is it's always some kind of especially if you have little kids in the what can I tell you this is what he this is his he says um you don't need to C me this no have to know is be right up to the right place otherwise um how in the world could your mind be focused on the word that the in other words if you're looking in the at a different word than he's saying there's no way that you're you're focused properly that means your eye is this the faculty of sight is drawn after the faculty of hearing in other words the fact that your eye is up to the correct word means that your faculty of listening is drawing The Faculty of sight that's enough considered listening to be say the mitvah look if your if your mind is wandering but your finger is on the right place so certainly if your finger is on the right place the whole time you're definitely well if your eye is on the right place the whole time you're but if you know every so often you sort of remove yourself from Dreamland to try to figure out where the is up to I don't know what to tell you doesn't it seem from all these sources that I mean if we find by that if your mind wanders momentarily then those words don't count then why would Miguel sester be any different ouch right is what kishma they say by right kishma is not and M during the day might even be more than it might be um it might be so for example it's very interesting we know that the is the day reading the day reading is certainly cabala right the night reading maybe it's not it's not [Music] says so some learn the it's a late which is very difficult to say not like that cu the later on says and thear says what about the the reading at the night the says the mishna is not talking about the reading of the night that means the gar feels that there was a reading of the night even the times of the mishna it seems to be against the but the says and others the reading of the night is is is not late not a late from but early from but I'll tell you between the night laning and and the day rating someone is mic during the night did I hear the Milla or did I not hear the Milla you don't have to hear it again so during the day says you have to hear it again it's a major between the night and the day so let's see bottom line raer says besides looking inside is pointing you should look in the and put your finger on every word that if you look in the Milla and every time you remember you you you're you find yourself you're look in the right place even if your mind wanders it's good enough what's the what's the rationale why why do we say that if your mind wanders but your following in the right word that's good enough he says the rationale is how is it possible that that coincidentally you happen to be looking at the right word that the was up to wow you know if if you were a betting man and you had to guess is will a random person in the SCH be looking at the same word that the is saying it's only possible if the guy hears if he didn't hear it would never happen must be the sense of sight is drawn after the sense of hearing and then ra Felder concludes he heard the same thing for Cutler that if every moment a person knows where they're up to that's called I'm not here I'm not looking to bust your chops make your life miserable I didn't say I didn't I just say I'm not here to do that but this is something to really think about seriously that this is not like an invented we have who says you can't use by you have a who says you can't use it by benching you have a tour who says you can't use it by follow Bening the answer because there's a much simpler solution there say it yourself again but by Milla that's not an easy solution because most people don't have their own Milla um most people are not familiar with how to pronounce every word of the Mela it's not such a simple you better with I I think on off the Record or on the record I think you're better off with a because if you have a Milla you're right if you miss a word you could catch up with a Milla but if you don't pronounce the word correctly you blew it but you have a and you miss so you didn't read the whole thing it's cons right if you have a it's like saying those words but if you if you read like less than half of the m one major assumption in that statement yeah that is that the people who are reading the Milla for the and theor are saying it correct right in other words they don't say it correct forget it all you whatever the does with their finger or yeah absolutely to make sure you hear Korea many don't CU they're not so well it depends look S and A yat K and Kyle yat I mean ba and ba that's a that's a very uh that's a significant sh significant Shila I happen to see this here says it's okay the word means what it's supposed to mean and not the way the person happen to emphasize but I don't know if that's so um but certainly it's proper 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