Daf Hashavua - Nedarim 7a

okay welcome everyone continuing in actually is there's some very nice L Pockets or what's the sh the sh is was that do we say that since P compared to carban so there's a of Y by so there's a of Y for or maybe it's only so the r is bothered what do you means only rule number one of is is aish for everything so the ran says that PA is never stated explicitly so even when it's compared to carbon it never says PA explicitly so therefore maybe the heish is only a partial where exactly is compared to the we learned in now if you remember we from who remembers we so that's talking about and then is so there's a heish between Caron and or do we say well it doesn't say pay explicitly so maybe the heish is only a partial heish um is there a or not say it's interesting to me why doesn't the gamar have AA Papa just says or not he says the the now really the million dollar question is what do you mean if somebody says in their mind I am going to give a million dollars to Yesa they have to do it so why do you need y so there no y you committed in your mind to give the Saka okay now in in Yesa maybe we'll have this in the answer the question is what level of commitment is a commitment like everybody has a fleeting thought oh I wish I gave a million dollars to now you're you know do you have to if I'm not mistaken the rashash had a idea you have to say the words in your mind I am in your mind you have to be M I am going not like not like the idea you didn't not like the idea was in your mind so but s is like in other words you're you're liable to keep the the decision of your mind so why do we care if there y for or I believe that's the famous maybe we'll do that in the and one of the answers is you're right if you commit to do something in your mind you're committed to it but once you choose to say it so now you're choosing the dboard track and the dboard track will only work if you're expressing it and the expression is only valid if there's a if there's a concept of Y so if it's where you say this goes to and this also that is in essence saying this will be for going rather for example where you said this and you didn't say also what this also should be for what does mean this should be and that that should be for my personal expenses and he just did not complete his words since is compared to where is compared to while in the same so is so is mentioned in the same context as just like or maybe is only compared to let's take a look at the ran the ran begins on um even though and when you say in all probability you mean for maybe the whole concept of Y is not does not apply for even if or maybe it's only compared for we don't say we don't say there's no he partially just like also doesn't say explicitly okay now next case is there other y for he says what's the that's what we mean to say is if you're going to take one side by we'll have a if you're going to say there are because we're not going to make a halfway he say that's or maybe is different is only for the poor is says the if you're going to take the that there is because since it's even though it doesn't say explicitly what about says the what about why don't we have sh whether or not the answer is there's no it's because is explicitly compared to and since definitely says around are explicitly compared this is what it means later on on one final question Rina now by the way this this in is very telling because we know the the r is that whenever you have multiple Shas in the that the ends off which the gar here is going to uh end off is basically the same thing as says so the r his approach is that you know however if a second sh is you take the following side of the first sh the ra will always like the so the way the r will look like the is since we say the r therefore now the question is what is going to be about well might be so or do we say no it's it's money and so uh there's a very interesting run here about what the but first let's see the basic case had the following we know the is that you're not to say but in order for to be it has to be a bathroom what if it's only designated as a bathroom is that considered a creation of a bathroom what's the case if you're going to say the cas is let's say you say this house should be a bathroom and this one also then that's saying this one should also be a Bas say like we've said throughout the G when you said that means you don't need that's what you're saying you just say and this what do you mean what is the that you say Bally say this one should also be a bathroom you say this should be a bathroom and this this should be uh the laundry room this should be a usage room now thear says wait a second if we have a shil whether they y for B that means if you're ma in a bathroom it would have to be a bathroom the only question is is your statement a designation but that means it presupposes that if you designate a bathroom it will have the status of a bathroom says from here it's it's we can infer that Ravina holds there is designation for a bathroom but how could that be had a question about if you designate something for a bathroom what's the if you designate something for a bath house what's the din Rina was not sure about that does designation help or not so how could Rina have a sh whether y work by a bathroom but Rina had a question whether even designation Works to begin with so the says Ravina had a question one in another within another meaning within the that we have a question are there y not does designation help and the concludes says it means is why doesn't the say say a very interesting principle the language of is different than any other maybe because like we learned in the in it's from the you know so they use different terminology over here but I don't know why but it's different okay now now we're going to do even though this is not a registered run this run we are is we don't have to do this run but I want to tell you even though we don't have to do this run we're still going to do the run okay just pointing that this R is how it's gak it's on the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ninth line from the top all these sh how do weing about all these things the concluded since it's a question that has not been given a decisive answer fine that's simple enough what about why we ended off with the sh of has not been deciphered and the and we hold that whenever there's a of we go what is the ran says this is possibly in the vein of the but here's the million doll question what does ran mean we Pas every of the also holds that way would you say and Saka is isn't it do I have to give do I have to give the do I have to give this person he that's not that's why can't I say and the ran brings AR from where the G says that's not that's and we say and the r brings many other Ras for example on the third wi line where the gar talks about a baker taking of and the applies over there that and the gar assumes therefore that when you're not sure if you have to give mat or mat that's we say that's not therefore the R's conclusion is El I'm on the seventh line sixth line wide line El he I'm sorry you don't give you don't have to give it and by he that's for sure and B is only okay so basically by everyone says by everyone say by and S the and say that and therefore and says and maybe that will be something we discussed in theair right how do you define is it and you have to give it or is it something M and you say burden of proof is on the recipient let's do a little further the mishna says that if you say let's go back to the mishna the said that um he was says would agree that for Lashes you don't get just because he was as a but not to give lashes otherwise if he held that you get lashes have so rather is not but rather if you say which is definitely a of that for if you say then I'm putting you in when do they argue but says it's of and the abundance of sham says the like a guy who is in doubt and he's like scratching he can't like he can't come to a definitive conclusion so is like he's scratching like he's not sure he would he's like tasting his pet to be don't he's because he was it was not clear from here we learn that you could get if that could be that would work even what does it mean would be he's thatan you don't get malus of course not you can't be malus through y it must be you could be through y just is not sure for but again that's if you finish like said earlier um so you have to be able to say if you say everyone says it's m even if you finish off there would be no because that's not of excommunication and an excommunication is not going to answerer the food and that this is similar similarly found in the story we'll see on about a guy I am that this that it doesn't create any argues when do they argue so again if you say that's definitely if you say that's definitely not what about it's both and sh presumes it's a of distancing yourself like but it's just to to say so they argue about RAB says it's a it's ation of nya of and the say it's of sh but they they argue only in this case they don't argue about nidya n that's definitely NE and they don't argue about M that's definitely not NE okay we'll pick it up tomorrow tomorrow hopefully does same time 9:15 okay see everybody tomorrow okay C good night good night recording stopped good night