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okay good evening friends we're
continuing
in the M says there's a within a there's
no within a what is that referring to
you can trigger two periods of neros but
you can't trigger two prohibitions on if
you say you swear you're not going to
eat this you swear you're not going to
eat this and you eat it you're only once
but you could
trigger two periods
ofos if you say
har then you could trigger two periods
of nazas we
had
Runa and Sh rauna said you can only
trigger two periods of nus if you say
when you
say you trigger 30 days when you
say then you're extending the one day
past the first period of 30 days once in
a Zer say one day it's once it's on day
31 it's for a full 30 days however is of
the opinion even if you
say both nuses
are thear asked on
H that why would the mishna then have to
say there's no it should clarify that
not doesn't always
work that it's not always
true fine we're up to that's between
raun
and T we learned in
the there's a within a there's no
within what what are we talking
about if the case is behold I am AER
today behold I am aner tomorrow which
is the way run understands the mishna so
then let's contrast the
case then
similarly by let's say the guy says
I take a oath I'm not going to eat figs
but the second oath can't be I'm not
going to eat figs that's not similar
to if he sore I'm not going to eat figs
then he swear I'm not going to eat
grapes that would be the parallel case
but then the question is why would that
not why would one not on the other it's
a totally different just because you
swore
on on one type of food on figs why does
that preclude you making a on grapes so
what's the
case what would the case be where one
oath is not another oath for example if
the guy
says an O and I'm not going to eat
figs and then he
and then
he repeated that in other words he then
went ahead and
said I'm not going to eat figs the case
would have to be not I didn't I'm not
going to eat grapes I'm not going to eat
figs but I'm not going to eat figs I'm
not going to eat figs and that's why
it's not
so what the case be that is
and it
says meaning what's the case of
Shu will will shed light on the case of
if the case of shu is you made a Shu on
one thing and then on another thing it
should be must be the case of is I swear
I'm not going to eat chant then I swear
I'm not going to eat chant and then it's
not well if that's the case so
then similar to that by it has to be
where you
say and it
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is will say to
you the case of the is a person says
behold I'm today and then he says behold
I'm
tomorrow I the
parallel
similarly where he says I'm not going to
eat fish
figs and then he says I'm not going to
eat figs and grapes so
there even though you're adding The
Grapes
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but he also said first he said I'm not
going to eat figs and then he said I'm
not going to eat figs and grapes so
therefore it's not so the it is parallel
when you say I'm not going to eat figs
and then you say I'm not going to eat
figs and grapes since it's not on the
figs it's not on the grapes however
byus when you
say it is why is it because it's on day
31 and once it's on day 31 it's on the
rest of the
time now
the question would be why would this be
so you know why would it be by Nadar
byos and
not but it's not a on raun anymore
because the case of the mishna is
not I'm not going to eat figs I'm not
going to eat figs
but would work the case is parallel the
case of which is
not and then he
say so that's
not that
is wait a second but it's not so P to
say that the case of the Mish
is
because there are those who say that it
is RAB said
somebody St he's not going to eat
figs he
e the
carbon and then after he's m
carbon if let's say okay so he ate figs
and then he was m
carbon and then he ate
grapes so then he's not for violating
the second Shu why not cuz the second is
he's not going to eat figs and
grapes and by offering the Shu it he's
already done with having eaten figs so
when he ate the grapes he didn't eat
figs and grapes he only ate
grapes so
then by eating the grapes he's only
violated half a she
you don't bring a carbon
for you don't bring a carbon
for what do we see from
here we
see that let's say he would not have
brought the carbon that means if he
would have just said I swear I'm not
going to eat figs and then he said I
swear I'm not going to eat figs and
grapes since it's on the
grapes it's on the on the
figs so how could rauna interpret the
mishna that the case in the
is and
then and say the holds it's not but we
know RAB holds it is in that case so
that can't be the case of the mishna
soar says that's very nice R holds it
good for holds it's
notun does not hold of Raba Runa does
not agree to
Raba okay let's see
the about 10 lines from the top
if he says hold another another
tomorrow similarly
by why would it
not then the run all the way on the
bottom three lines in the
bottom that's the case in that case
must be in this
situation CU if not
my well this is going on the gar later
yeah what you say yeah okay
right fine so gar
continues the first why is
that what I'm sorry why why bring a car
on the first why that no because the he
because the first NE the first was I'm
not going to eat figs so he ate
fig need the right right
right okay good
so if somebody made two na
say what does that mean we'll have to
see I
guess so he counts 30 days Vish
carbon and he's m
carbon
and he
then uh
removes the first na he goes to
and and he gets before he is M of the
carbon so
then the
secondus was already
considered by the first 30 days cuz the
period of the first 30
days was not necessary for him to have
kept because he was sh on it he already
he already asked the now I'm wondering
how the what what was his he if I would
have known that how hard it was he did
it already what like what was the what
was the of the like what what was the
loophole that the got him out of it but
anyway he was to a so we say that that
the observance of the of uh the second
one is counted by him having uh counted
the first 30 days meaning the second
acceptance of nazos was already
fulfilled so says what's the
case then why in the world could we
count the second neros in the first 30
days but the second
started on day two so still has another
day to
go there's still another
day it's rather
obvious and we see that
it's it is
a says
no why does it what does it mean it
counts it means 29 of the days counts he
still T has to do one more
day besides that extra
day or a different story if you
say it's the second one
is but
if then even would
say it's talking about where he accepted
two simultaneously
let's see three the round three lines
the in such a
case
otherwise you mean you fulfilled the
second one the second one's not you you
can't say you fulfilled the second one
by observing the first 30 days of the
second one is in clearly the second one
is okay that's okay very glad we're able
to do this now and next week
hasem uh we'll see hopefully it could be
a regular schedule although there are a
lot of weddings next week okay
everyone record
