Daf Hashavua - Nedarim 10b

right okay good evening everyone we're continuing in we're learning we just said what's the reason they made for and and because we're afraid if you use the word carbon you're going to come to say carbon Lem then you're going to come to say LEM and you're going to stop short and you're going to say hashem's name in vain V the last words on the last words on we learned in how do we know a person shouldn't say but instead Lem this way because if you're going to say lb who knows what could happen maybe the person will pass away and will be if this guy he was only to sayem's name on a carbon he didn't have cavana to sayem's name in vain he just had kavana to sayem's name am of carbon the tah says first carbon then to say's name all the more so now so therefore we we say these we say this way you don't say caran and you end up saying it's interesting in says well if you shouldn't start off with hashem's name why do we say shalom shalom is the name of so they're M that you that you greet your friend with hashem's name sh but you should say sh sh why because in the that you're being shom to your friend you'll have you won't you won't die after you said the word Shalom but your friend he's the second guy he's just responding he doesn't have that so he has to say sh in other why doesn't he say sh sh sh you know I say good morning you don't say morning good you say also good morning so sh is so you won't pass away the responder though he has to say okay says says the r nope no R let us say that the between of what let us say that this is a why says what if it's not a nickname what if it's a nickname of a nickname so instead of K it's or something like that what about a nickname of a nickname what's it's a foreign language so since it's a foreign language so the nickname of the nickname is also some kind of you see we asked before if it's a foreign language then of course it's it should be effective what's the the answer is it it's a foreign L it's somewhat slangy so kinu are even slang of the slang you know they only speak it that way in the hood so kinu are just a regular slang and kinu are a really full slang so says that would be user and B says no [Music] um the are a language rabbis made up they invented it and they only invented K they never invented the k everyone says that it's the language that is a foreign language and the question is like how significant is this slang of the slang how many people are really speaking it says enough people are speaking the that this language the are not speaking and if you want you could says maybe really no one's speaking it but even though nobody's speaking it and really should not be effective we make a says the say no the don't speak this SL even if some do speak it it's not that they're arguing in M but B even if some speak it they don't speak it as a primary language some people they have the corrupt version it's not a language they hold like they hold like says that it's a language of the we also that are like B right so we hold we hold like that it's and we hold that's how we because at first the gar wanted to say they argue whether it's says no everyone says it's which fits into who we pasing like and we also hold so even though some speak that but it's not they don't speak it as an language fine the gar continues what is an example of K which is somewhat difficult what do you mean what's an example of who cares only B says are unless you say look you know when mhia comes we're going to pass like B so we need to know that's uh some say that's somewhat relevant to Kana that there are certain things on Kaneka that we do that were concerned for B and for example just in the kav of let's say the second some say when is in that to do the like and there might be an idea on which is like of the so B plays an even more important role if you remember the says and the says there were two one did like one did like so and the rift brings that down one did like one did like why would the Riff bring that down so in the that that even though we always like B but that's by but this is a question about Mah it's not so for that you could go like B you see there might be an idea that fora certain ideas of are taken into account even though some say the whole is okay in any event the what so would be would be and would be be so in other words becomes what about that what about do you mean do you mean does the guy mean or does guy mean cinnamon do you mean chicken nest or maybe it's a of it's a of remember what meant in is the question stands and said is would be of sh say that's a guy's name that's son uh so then that's takes out the word m you said that's meaningless V if you made a by if you said by Moses only by The Vow that he made that is a for let's see the r says a holy r on top okay that we saw he's coming to explain the when it says it's not where you just said alone The Vow that took therefore we learned in the made therefore the mishna said remember we we said the ran said he's going to explain this later and here it is we're talking about of so why would it say we're not talking about we're talking about the answer is if we would say that would be if all you said was that would also be it's not enough to say mha's name you have to say the vow of mha but you don't have to use the word NE of course you could use we're talking about a but you can't just say okay now we're just going to read the next the final mishna and we'll explain it with the next week on um it's a very short let's just read the mishna we'll explain it more fully on one who says not that I'm going to eat from you that's equivalent to or what I'm what this food that you're that that I have is not Kosher now this is a new process the first m talked about y half of statement then we talk about kinan nicknames now we're talking about a full NE but it's called where you're not making the ne directly and saying this item should be you're referencing another thing which is and you want that to extend to the permitted food so that which I'm I'm eating not or or Pure or really the it should say not you say it should be or or like leftover or that was brought with improper or you say it should be in all these cases they're that it should be like the Sheep of Kim like imra like a the like the animals of in the Corral that are designated for like the wood of the of the like the fires of the one who made a invoking any of the apperences of the carbon even if he didn't mention a carbon carbon it says as if he made a NE in a carbon if somebody says this should be then that's meaningless he didn't say so that does not have meaning this will explain more all the RS are on and that's where we're going to explain this more fully okay we're going to hold it here you're welcome to join us at 10 p.m. we're going to have a short she of new material that we never said everyone