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>> Okay,
we are
we are continuing in the second perk of
Nazer Perak Bessa
peressa.
Let me just
Okay,
here we go.
So the mission says harini
somebody says I'm a nazer from dried
figs from oppressed cake of figs.
Seemingly this statement has no meaning
whatsoever. What what in the world does
it mean that I'm a nauseir from dried
figs or from pressed figs? You can't be
a nazir from dried figs or pressed figs.
You can only be a nazir from grapes or
wine. So how exactly do we interpret
this statement?
So
says you're a nazer. You're aer. It's a
real statement. The statement has
meaning.
How does it have uh how does it have
meaning?
It's a statement of nazeros. Now he's
going to be allowed to eat figs, but he
is a nazer
says he's not a nazer. And basically
this statement is completing completely
meaningless. Not only
not only um are you not a ner, not only
do you are you allowed to eat dried
figs, you're also
not a
rabbi says. So that's the first uh
explanation or presentation of the
somebody says a very interesting phrase.
So B says you're
say you're not
even when B said
they only said it when you said
behold upon me a carbon.
Even when Bame said that if you say
harini
that you're a nazer, they only said it
if you said behold they are upon me like
a carbon.
Um
which means that
bas that rahuda is explaining b shama
that you're not actually a nazer
but you're assering figs on yourself. So
has a completely turns the whole thing
on its head. Bas the simple
understanding of B is
a statement of Nazirus and will throw
out when you made a reference to figs.
Rabuda said no B only meant where you
said they are upon me like a carbon. So
in that situation
um
you're user in figs but you are not a
nazer but you're not a nazer. Let's see
tus.
Most of the tyus on this page we do not
have to do. There are a lot of tyus but
we're just going to the ones that are so
it's a short it will be a short page.
Saysis
All the laws of upon him
even though he
made an attempt to explain his words
and he never explained anything
will explain what the rationale of
Even when
spoke, they only said it when you said
carbon
argues on the Tana of the Mishna
and he says
that you're not actually a noer for the
Nazerus.
since you didn't make an from what came
out of wine.
You're just a from dried figs and from
pressed figs as if you said
they are upon me like a carbon. Okay, so
we're going to have to explain the
rationale of Bishami in the first
version. According to the second
version, Bishame only answered figs if
you use the expression that I'm
answering them upon me like a a carbon.
Fine, says the garam.
If somebody says
I'm a nazir
from dried figs and from pressed figs
says you are
the merciful one said only what comes
out of the grape of the wine.
Meaning why in the world is he if he
explained himself that he's answering
figs? Figs have nothing to do with
nazeros
says
holds like
that what
holds a person doesn't make a statement
for nothing. So even though he said figs
but at the end of the day he made a
statement.
So we can't discard and dismiss that
statement. Shame holds like that a
person's words have meaning.
In other words, we're not going to just
assume that it was gibberish. A person
has a person means something. By the
way, to me this seems similar to what we
had earlier with Rabaka. Their bik was
dovaser.
The Gomorrah said
that
where did we have that raika is do extra
words that if you say extra words
it has uh it has intentional meaning
said on that base four lines from the
bottom that
is
right says
why is
maybe the guy just saying extra words
Oh, Rabbi Keva holds that if somebody
speaks it has meaning. Now, Rabbi was
the Rebi of Rome. So, to me there's like
a similarity between
being
andor
who says.
Okay.
So now the question is what does Bhill
hold? Why does Bhill say that we dismiss
his whole statement? Now the easy way
out is maybe Rabbi Kiba doesn't hold
like Ram Rabika holds a person would be
Mo of maybe uh B holds Rabi maybe holds
a person would be
but the Gar doesn't want to say that. So
says
um look at first of all
somebody says
I take upon myself the
there is no
the rabbis say you're completely exempt
argues
says
A person knows
that there's no
and therefore what his intention is it
should be I accept the monetary the
retail value of the item
and he gives the value of the
because a person does not just say
things for nothing. Here also
a person knows there's no on dried figs
and therefore he concludes and he that
he's going to he's doing it for nazerus
of wine.
So
the gar is explaining since
he when he said he means he's a
legitimate and that which he said we'll
have to dismiss. So what does B hold
again doesn't say B holds
says Bri
holds like
holds that a person is caught up
meaning a person is responsible for the
way he finishes his statement.
So therefore this nether comes together
with its pes with its opening because he
started by saying
but he ended off by saying
so that's like a pes because there is no
from
says
Now what is where does Rabio's opinion
uh where is it seen says
Haruas
Schlamim Rabio
Rabio's opinion is found by someone who
says this should be in exchange for anah
this should be in exchange for a schlim.
So we say
if somebody says
if we're gonna
pay attention to both things then the
animal can't possibly have kaducas and
so therefore we say you have to let it
graze until it develops
the you sell it
half of the money you use for an
half the money you use for a carbonim
here too
with the completion of his words.
We're gonna tie him to that
since there is no Nazirus by dried figs.
He's not a nazer.
Even though at first he said, "Behold,
I'm
within the same time frame of speech.
It's as if he made a
made he found an opening for the so he's
off the hook.
If you make a nether with a
nether is not even in the first place
the nether is not even. So here are two
also
like that we tie somebody down to his
concluding statement. So he said he then
qualified it by saying
which means basically I'm not a because
there is no figs. So he uproots what
he's saying holds
a person's not going to just say
meaningless expression. So therefore we
give credence to Nazer and
we throw out but can't throw it out
because basil is uh feels that we have
to give extra credence to his final
words. Okay, that's the explanation for
um bhil to which the garra asks, wait a
second, doesn't b shami also hold that a
person is tied down to his final words.
also this is a nether with its opening
with it
Ella. So now we're going to offer
another approach to explain
but rather
that a person doesn't say his words
empty for no reason.
And since he says,
he's so what do we do with the way he
ended off?
But when he says from dried figs or from
a cake of figs,
So he's coming to be mater basically
he's coming to retract retract you're
allowed to retract
goes according to his reasoning
says there's no retraction by hectish
when you're something you can't go to
by
since you can't go to
to retract hectish.
There is no
retraction by
fourth line fourth wide line.
It doesn't mean to be m like to go to
he never came to here, right? It's not
like the guy said I'm and then he went
to he said I'm a and then he said from
figs.
So what this means is
he is re regretting and retracting.
It's like a guy who's asking for
finds a kar
to it's a mistaken.
So it's not mish
a
it's not like he's going to but saying
the words and then it's like someone who
went to a it's like a retraction and
therefore by hectish retraction is not
possible. Therefore
um
by it's also not possible. Why?
is like
so now we have to we've turned the
tables
holds like
I
but then how do you explain his final
statement? Well, he's trying to retract.
We don't allow retraction by Nazerus
just like we don't allow it by hectish.
Yeah. So what does BL hold? So
um
it's a little bit unusual. What do you
mean? He holds there is retraction by
Nazeras.
A way to understand this gamarra is we
need to understand the second version of
of bal because the second version of a
shami it holds that you're user and figs
because you said
so regarding that what does basill hold
and regarding that the is going to say
holds like
exempts
because he did not donate like the usual
manner of donations and that we will
explain further next time we learn which
will probably be
Thursday night.
Okay, this week I'm sorry Thursday
night.
Good night everyone.
feel good.
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>> By the way,
>> that's why he says, "Do you ever uh see
everything counts that comes out?"
>> That's right.
Good night.
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