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Okay, good evening everyone.
Welcome everyone to
this year's dafishna.
If somebody said parazu
This cow
said
I'm af
cows talk. This won't be the first
talking cow. You remember in the we have
a shir on Purim that there was a cow
that they spoke to the cow. So here the
cow is speaking to them. So a person
said the cow said
if I stand up or
or this door said
if I open
now what in the world is going on? The
guy thinks the cow is talking. You know
we heard about talking fish in
Williamsburg. I don't know about but
maybe a cow. But what do you mean a
talking door? What this means is like
this.
The guy is envisioning.
He sees a cow. The cow is like lying
down all heavy, all laden. And the guy,
you see that cow? You know, if a cow
could talk, the cow would say, "I'm a
ner if I could stand up."
The guy doesn't mean that the cow says
it. What he really means is he is
putting these words in the mouth of the
cow. It's like he's saying it. He's
saying
if the cow stands where the guy's
putting words in the in the in the mouth
of the door
says
he's aeros.
Now this is very similar to the previous
Mishna where the previous Mishna the guy
says I'm a ner from figs. Now that's an
impossibility. The question is Bashame
says let's endeavor to try to make sense
out of what he's saying and B says no
it's nonsense. So it's nothing happens.
Um
says he's a Nazer
and similar to the previous kicks it and
he says no even to B you're not a Nazer.
He means if he makes a that he's not
going to
uh eat grapes or if he assers uh wine
products
even when said that there's an
he only said it if he says
in my medi the cow is user to me as a
carbon if it stands up. So he's
assering. This is not a nazerus.
He's not saying that I'll be a nazer.
He's saying it's I accept upon myself is
on the cow. Meaning now.
Okay. On the cow. Yeah.
Now let us see.
Pisces
parazu
this cow says the the holy tusus
not the holy cow right says tyus
there's a cow crouching before him
it's mashma that it's
crouching
according to the answer.
You could explain the language of the
Mishna as follows. Let's go to Ramar
says gar um if he says the Misha said if
he says the cow said question
does a cow speak
there are books kids speak there no book
cow speak yeah says
you know what we're talking about over
here
the cow is crouching before him
and the guy says says
the cow thinks
that it can't get up
from the flesh of the cow.
If she could get up all by herself and
she got up on her own.
Okay, let's go back to for a moment.
Second line.
We only have to go to about 14 lines
down in the narrow lines.
I'm sorry.
A guy says who sees a crouching cow.
He says
this paraid
the cow thought.
It's not that the cow said it, but this
is what the cow is thinking in her
heart.
She's crouching
and this is probably her thought.
She's crouching so much
she can't get up on her own.
It's not that the cow's actually
thinking this.
She doesn't have das to think and to to
have and to think.
When people pass by and see her
crouching,
they think to say this.
They think this
when most people see a cow just
crouching all day not being able to get
up.
Um
they think
the cow is saying I would be a ner if I
could get up. Meaning the cow is making
a statement like it ain't happening. I'm
not going to be able to get up.
Since those who see the cow think this
about the cow.
When you think something, you then
you then um
you you shine it on the you you project
it. Okay. Projection. When you think
something, you project other people are
thinking it. So when let's say a guy's
domining for the he thinks he might be
going a little too slow. He then
projects that everyone around him thinks
he's dominating too slow. Even though
most of the people if they would be
concentrating enough they might be
thinking that but they're not even
they're not thinking about that. You
know people they look at they they they
put on a suit um maybe the suit is two
years old. They think oh I such an old
suit
I it's so old. What am I? They think
that everyone who looks at their suit
thinks that that you're wearing a
Schleer suit. Nobody knows the
difference. There's no difference
between a suit that's 5 years old and
four years old. Nobody cares about your
suit. No one's looking at it. The last
thing on anyone's mind is what suit
you're wearing. But people project what
what they think that other people are
thinking. So too now the projection goes
so far is that people project their
thoughts on the cow. People are
projecting the cow is thinking this.
They project the thoughts on the cow
itself.
Like in the
We just read that last night. And the
boat thought to break. Really? The boat
Yona was on thinking about breaking?
Yeah. Because the guys on the boat
thought the boat would break. So then
they projected their thought that the
boat was thinking that it's going to
break. Isn't that amazing? Unbelievable.
People project their feelings on
inanimate objects.
The person who sees the boat
thinks on it. It's going to break.
The the people projected the thought on
the boat. So the does
The guy says, "I will be a ner if this
cow gets up." So he's thinking he
projects the cows thinking that
it's going on the person that's
therefore
it says
It
it emits.
What does that stand for? Hey Alf
Micarini
Nazisara in my madness.
What?
>> Maybe ner
maybe.
So the toyus is explaining that the
thought that the person has seeing the
cow is now projected on the cow. Namely
the guy says
this cow says
I'm sorry.
Fine. So Gar continues
goes according to his own opinion namely
of figs have a nazer. You're a nazer. So
we try to make sense out of what the guy
is saying even though he said ner from
groggy.
So too when he says from the
uh from the meat of the cow have another
you're
because in this case what's he saying?
I'm a from the meat of a cow. If you're
a nazer you know how to eat meat. What
does meat got to do with nazer? I mean
really there are two kadush
it's it's it is bashameas that when a
guy says I'm a nazer from meat we give
him the dinner of nazeros but in this
case the guy didn't even say I'm a nazer
from meat he said the cow said I'm a
nazer but the reason he says the cow
says he's a nazer is because he's
projecting his thoughts on the cow even
though you could ask okay he's
projecting his thoughts on the cow But
thinking is not going to make you aner.
You need
maybe this constitutes
by you projecting your thoughts saying
this is what the cow said
apparently that would constitute.
Okay. So
the gar says okay if it is then we know
this already
says
this one time in the previous Mishna.
Now the truth is in B it's a big because
it's not just a guy saying I'm from he
also didn't say I'm from he said the cow
said it but in B hill who says it
doesn't um
in B hill
who says that this does not work
it's for sure not needed because bas
hill would say even if you say I'm a
nazer from Gorus it doesn't work or or
um similarly if you would have said I'm
aer from meat it wouldn't work says
we need two examples and we need three
examples
also taught we need two examples and we
need three examples we need all the
examples
If it would just say the first of the
dried figs and the cakes, the fig cakes
said
because you could mix up figs and
grapes.
They're both they're both
uh meaty fruits. So maybe you could say
that the guy meant to say grapes cuz
grapes and figs are mixupable.
Nobody would uh say meat and mean
grapes. Maybe the reason why when you
say figs you're cuz you meant to say
grapes. But you can't say that when you
say meat you meant to say grapes.
Then says you're nazer. Why?
Because meat and wine. That's like a
good combination.
Meat and wine is like peanut butter and
jelly. So you meant to say wine. You
said meat. You meant to say wine, but
you said meat.
But
you don't eat figs and grapes. Welcome
to my house. Let me bring out some figs
and grapes for you. You have um cookies
and milk, peanut butter and jelly. It's
not like a classic combo. The fig and
grape combo, but meat and wine, those
are like, you know, the main staples.
So,
therefore, in both, even in the case of
figs and grapes, we still try to make
sense of what you're saying. Even though
you wouldn't it's it's not because you
make
even by figs and grapes we'll we'll
still say you meant to be another
said these two
that's when said it's an effective
but
I would think
because
nobody would say uh nobody would
accident mean to say grapes and say
adore it's not like no I really meant
grapes
adore has nothing to do with any
anything of nazirus meat could be mix
mixed up with wine and figs could be
mixed up with grapes nobody mixes up a
door with grapes
so so the the door is the biggest so
just say a door maybe if we just say the
case of the door only by the door
says it's meaningless
only then says that it is not
the other two where maybe you could say
he meant to say grapes
maybe
okay
let's see second wide line two or three
two or three places in the case of dried
figs. The case of the cow in the case of
the door
all the cases
explains
dried figs
because you mix up with grapes
or they're both fruits.
Maybe in your mind you meant to say
grapes
and you had a Freudian slip and you said
dried figs.
Meat and wine are the staples of the And
they get confused.
Let them argue by the case of meat and
wine without the cow standing in its
spot.
Askis, what in the world does it have to
do with a cow talking? Just say a guy
said
why do you have to have this whole thing
where the cow is crouching and you saw a
cow and you said to me it seems like the
cow is saying I'm a nazer. There's
nothing to do with that. Just keep it
simple. Just keep it to a case where the
first Misha says you make you're making
nazerus from dried figs and this Misha
is making a from meat and then you're
from a door
and then
and it's
could have that's what we're doing
just as a is teaching me
that the is that if it gets up on its
own it'll
This will be part of the question that
we're ask
the person is saying I'll be a nazer if
the cow stands up by itself but ra
says does the Mishna say that if it if
it does get up on its own. Look the says
he said
but the Mishna doesn't conclude if it
gets up on on its own then you're
so the question so why didn't the Mishna
say if it does get up on its own then
you're left that out if it's contingent
on the cow getting up on its own why
wouldn't the Mishna say so if the cow
cow gets up on its own, you're a nazer.
Why would it just say that the guy means
that the cow is saying if I get up on my
own, I'm a nazer? Okay, so the mission
should say that then if it does get up
on its own, then you're a nazer.
of
you know what the case is.
The cow is crouching in front of him and
the har like carbon
and the guy says I am going to bring a
carbon if it gets up.
What does this mean?
Let's see.
Does it say
look at the Mishna?
The guy says,
"If I get up,
it just says
if it would say on my own, I would
agree."
the fact that the mission leaves out.
You cannot explain it that that's the
case.
Is asking that we're adding to the words
of the Mishna. According to Rava,
Rava is asking why would the Mishna
if if the Mishna like means that he's
accepting the zeros if it gets up on its
own. The Mishna should have said if it
gets up on its own. So Ra is saying that
the person saying something else. He's
saying
that
I'm not a nauseier if it gets up on its
own. I'm thinking
that since the the cow is having a hard
time standing,
then the cow is saying I will be a
carbon.
Not that I'm saying the cow is saying
the cow will be a nazir and I'm
projecting my thoughts on the cow. The
cow is saying if I get up on my own I
will be the carbon of let's try to read
those words intois
I don't mean I'm going to be a from the
cow cuz if he meant I'm going to be from
the cow it should say
cuz it has Nothing to do with it
standing up.
So what does he mean? He means, let's
see what Ra is saying.
I'm going to bring the Nazeros carbon if
the cow gets up. Now, why would he bring
the Nazeros carbon? because he's going
to be a nazir
says
if it gets up
is going to didn't finish it because
it's still going to ask the what's the
question
I understand the cow could be a carbon
you could say that the it's like the cow
is saying
that if it gets up, it's going to be a
carbon nause. Well, at the door, the
door can't be uh a carbon.
So, this is not sh by a door.
Okay. So, we're going to hold it over
here.
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