Daf Hashavua Iyun Sugya: Yevamos 45 - The Halachik Status of a Jewish Women to a Gentile Father

this Torah class is brought to you by Torah anytime.com okay good morning everyone welcome back hope everyone had a nice yump we're going to begin with uh something important on D me da M discussed a very uh important and contemporary subject what is the status of a child whose father was a gentile and his mother was a Jew that was the sh of the gamarra somebody whose father was um that's the bottom of everyone is that in or that lives with a Jewish woman the Vlad is a m so says why would that be it's not a says even though it's not a still Kadin since kadushin is not toy it produces a m but then the gamar brought other opinions that no the vladis ker rebi holds the vladis Kasher and the gamar brought a number of opinions that the Vlad is koser Rua holds the Vlad is mul and um the gamar interpreted that to mean the Vlad is and the gar says on the final narrow line that all the who say the Vlad is is why say who her is is only to not to everyone her child is the child of such a union is that means the girl is so the daughter of someone whose father is a guy and the daughter of of a guy and a Jewish woman uh certainly she would be P Rashi said it doesn't mean it means P the daughter the son has no problem to a uh K because there is no concept of kadus to a fine so the G seems to conclude that most authorities hold that if the father is a go the child could marry a regular Jewish girl however a girl cannot marry a the child is however interestingly on the's conclusion is about two-third of the way down a gentile or a slave who lives with a Jewish woman the vladis koser so interestingly even though the gamar says the child is ker the gamar doesn't say well the child is somehow the from was not Incorporated in the final so let's begin with the Riff I did not make um copies of marments that are found in the back of the gamarra so I hope um I hope you have a regular gamarra if not then let me know next time uh I'll try to put this up the the Riff and the Russ on as well but please take a look in the back of your gamar to the Riff the Riff is found on me it's in the okay the ri says like this um it's about a third of the way down excuse me the says a lot and the conclusion is that's the Riff is just codifying the words of the gamar and then the Riff says some of the conclude this that the concludes that's to a Jewish person meaning if she's a girl she cannot why from the fact that the said before this all who say the they consent they agree if you're going to say it's not a good because when Al lives with a she herself is defiled so when a Jewish woman lives with a go she's also defiled that they become and the the Riff is just quoting thear look on the last narrow line in the Riff so hold that even though the gar in the conclusion did not bring in the that the Vlad is but the already brought it on and therefore many say that a someone whose father is a go cannot marry a Ken but then the Riff says on the last narrow line that since the gar concluded the vlader and the gar didn't conclude with the words of the on that there's a that and therefore the must for some reason be falling off of that maybe there's some that the is not articulating but the bottom line is that many say that even though was mentioned on the child it was not mentioned again and therefore we do not follow that and the Vlad is perfectly ker so what's the bottom line a we're whether the child is P from the fact that we see in the after the whole back and forth the says is and the doesn't add and by the way the is the v p so the gar seems like it's falling off of that so therefore the Riff says we in conclusion yes the child someone whose father is a go can marry a Isel can they marry a it's a why they can't marry a but the conclusion on is did not incorporate that and the conclusion of the Riff therefore is the status of such a woman is suff whether they can marry Luna the ram holds definitively that the gamarra does not bring it into the conclusion and the child can marry a the rush as we're about to see holds definitively that they cannot marry a thear doesn't have to bring it into the conclusion the end thear brought it on and nobody challenged it so it stands that's the of the rush if we could take a look the rush is B excuse me mmad B [Music] in let's see if we can find it take a look in the rush it's peric dalad in the rush o in the editions it's in the it's per o in the rash the rash quotes the Mas that the rush says some authorities hold the Vlad is P from other say the Vlad is ker because the gar does not bring it into the conclusion and the rush says himself this is the middle of the rush in oid by the O in the carbonel uh notations I don't see why there should be a from the fact that the said earlier that all say this child is ker to the they would agree has no reputation nobody argues on it so why didn't the we don't have to in that way the unqualified language of ear concluded that we have we don't have toad is we only have to whether they are so that so we have three the conclusion of the Riff is it's a the conclusion of the ram is the vad ker from the fact that GAR doesn't conclude it on conclusion of the rush is the Vlad also from the fact that we have a nobody challenged it so I just want to bring to your attention how we you know very to have clear you know is going out with the girl her father is a her mother's Jewish she's a Jewish girl she's a finer girl now I will tell you what about a is your friend is going out with a girl and the father's a guy is there anything wrong the gamar says the Vlad is ker but you know we do have to say the gar said they asked R what's the status of the Vlad R said the Vlad is koser so the guy said let me marry your daughter so Rob said not a chance so the guy said uh R said even if you were like Yeshua Bon I wouldn't let you marry so the guy say it's not fair Yeshua benun somebody else would have married him but I have no one else to marry RAV said I don't care the guy kept un bugging him so RAV looked at him and he killed him so even though yes the Vlad is kusher but if you want to know should you let your daughter go out with somebody who the father's a guy you know we can't say this publicly but you know if RAV killed the guy then probably this is not uh you know people have all kinds of Hang-Ups you know does the mother uh use a push fine those things are mishas but that the father should be a Jewish that that doesn't seem to be a mishas right but anyway um the gamar does fine but what about so let's says like this this is inim talking about any of these Gentiles says we in the Vlad Pam who is that like that's like the rush that is like the rush [Music] comes the B this is the is meaning the Riff the excuse me the Riff is mic the ra says the says because of so how do we this is a very important if your friend says that by the way you know I got married yesterday who do you marry I married uh y oh M miss your name where does she come from she comes from Bar Park what's her mother's name spra what's her father's name um Frank Tony really that what's his Hebrew name no that's his name he's Jewish no he's not Jewish why does he need to be Jewish you don't have to be Jewish so you're right now the question is do you have to tell your friend to divorce his wife so according to the rush yeah however there's the of the rambam that she's and according to the Riff they don't have to get divorce so certainly you can't get married a cannot marry a woman whose father is a go if he did they stay married that's the bottom line that's a nice little to be aware of B ham Al mham Bas okay that's the first offering today you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by tor anytime.com