Can You Use Ner Chanukah For a Dvar Mitzvah? Do You Need To Wake Up Family To See A Late Lighting?

this Tower class is brought to you by torahanytime.com good morning everybody we're uh we're already holding within 10 days of the antif of Hanukkah definitely applies but already we're close enough so we're going to talk about uh important halacha the gemara tells us it is prohibited to use the oil of Hanukkah you're now at a get Hana from the oil why so we'll talk about why in a moment first let's get the what what are you not allowed to use the oil for what kind of Taj mishai now are you not allowed to use it for so the tour rights That We're Not Afraid when it comes to narcanica we know on Shabbos you now to use certain types of oil because we're afraid they might not light well and you're going to come to bimata but on Hanukkah we don't have that why Sherry also you're not allowed to use the oil of Hanukkah you know how to make use of its light says the Torah Allah it doesn't matter if it's the use of kadusha kuga and lomide you can't learn by it or any other attachments you know how to roast marshmallows let's say you know after the Nay rice you want to have some family time so you say nah this year no presence you say to your kids what do you where does it say I have to give you presents it says in the I don't think it's going to work but um so instead this year we're gonna roast marshmallows is that are you allowed to roast marshmallows no you can't roast marshmallows are you allowed to learn no you can't learn by it now what does it mean to be my iron into your money so somebody gave me a check this morning for the safer Tyra they thought they were giving 18 but they forgot to put the DOT so that it said 1800 so you sometimes get the Mayan into the into the money so if you want to be my Ayana tomorrow that's also Usher uh however that's the shoot of the tour okay you can't use the narcanica for anything the Bala Ito right only a mundane use but the rush the Torah says to my father the rush he did not agree with the balaitor my father held that it was also to use the nerhanaka for any usage whatsoever could you pass me like just want to speak out how do we pass again and the rush we passed we don't have we don't have Mission bro we have to go all right okay what uh you can use it for anything that's a halacha okay so you're backing up a good tree you have it on your sheet the next page said if you only have one candle one candle for your either for now Shabbos or for nechanica ner Shabbos is because of Shalom bias if it's a choice between nervious and Kiddush by the way that's talking about so kill us Friday night for short trumps but if it's narabasai and Kida Shabba state is better excuse me is better because of Shalom bias so we have the Shiloh what do you do if you can if you only have one candle should you use it for Shabbos or should you use it for chanukkah tigamara says you should use it for Shabbos because of shallowing bias fine that's one one interesting another halacha look on next page about eight lines down now the doorpost on the opposite side of the mezuzah where do you put it on the right side on the left side um now what do you do [Music] what do you do the gemara says you light it indoors you put on your table okay so these are the options option number one is the best places you put it by the doorway on the left side yeah we don't do that really it's not as International soil they do it option number two is you do it by your window option number three if it's a Sakana you put it on your table foreign and the going says regarding this between the rush and the balaitor can you use the nerchanica for tashmir's kadusha could you not use a Photoshop says the Quran going to bring you a refutable proof that you're not allowed to use naranaka for Tash Michelle kadusha what's the proof take a look in the birhagra okay the beer Agra is probably the most concise and jam-packed commentary ever written on anything in a few words of the gra he covers the entire so yeah this is the beer Agron Simon toughrish iron gimmel the third line base if you only have one candle you could use it for Friday night you could use it for narcanica what should you use it for now Shabbos ask to grow what in the world just like one candle use it for now Shabbos let's go martial which one is better why does one have to be better I can't use it for both so now there is a Shyla what what oh Zariah to the shoot the rush that now Hanukkah is fabulous so even though the gemara says what does that means does that mean that if a person is stuck and of course we know by the way we just learned it out from uhse you know what has we learned to have from your zaida Love on who said also so who said he said right we can't we can't have two shovel buckets at the same time first Mary Leia and then Mary Rachel you can't yeah no what the girl once what you're answering or you're saying what the girl is saying no I'm I'm trying to understand can the Gora is trying to bring a proof the grass says according to the Bal ho Itor that you're allowed that you're not that you're allowed to light the a lot of damage that if you only have one candle she'll use it for National so use it for Hanukkah use it for both just like one candle and look how to make two brothers there's a child according to the how would you make the but you'd make let's say you like or yes he's suggesting that's only uh that's only or like what to have this month but let's say the candle's only big enough okay you can't you can't blow it out if it's exactly a half hour so if you blow it out now it's gonna be 29 minutes so you want to do what like the nail shop is first why do you have to blow it out for what for what purpose what are you accomplishing by blowing it out so make the breakfast make two broccolis make two brothers yeah right right so maybe the the husband makes the Hanukkah and she makes the bracha near Chavez but or you make two brothers why can you make two brothers what's the issue with making two brothers I mean there's no personal you're doing it on your table who's the public it's the last resort your family you've made two brothers you're telling them this is for both that's true you're not supposed to but guys no money so does that mean he's not you I'd say there's a reason why you can't do it you can't say the reason you can't do it because you can't do it together you can't do it together but why is this not a good it's about the other according to the according to the banglaitor that you're allowed to use nerchanica for a Mitzvah right the balita says you could use then a guy who's poor why is this not an option to light one candle for both foreign possibly yeah well okay so so so let's come to the following uh Shyla okay the gemara says and it's uh it's time to hear the megillah says and you come to light and you come to hear micro Magilla so all the Ocarina mask the the safraim and everyone talks about the Shyla what does and you come to hear the megillah the McGill is Tyra it's not a book in Tanakh Miguel is Torah you know it's part of Torah every time has to know it which by the way you know everybody today everyone's they have to learn Shas yeah you have to learn Shahs and you have to learn halacha you have to learn but you also have to learn that's like the basis it's like the foundation how you know Avada in our College broccolias Bristol you saw a little bit but knew not only the tanak he knew every single truck on every word of Tanakh you can ask him what's the Trap and that possible he could tell you of course anyway so Miguel says there is Tyra so why is right I'm sure you heard that Kasha so what's up Sean mcclurger's answer says you can't be you'd say two Mitzvahs at the same time it's not physically possible to be you'd say two minutes of simultaneously so if you're a middle of doing the midst of talmatira and now you say I'm going to read McGillis Esther we're going to ask you one simple question what do you want to be accomplishing by reading Miguel assessor do you want to get the midst of talmatara yeah you're not used to limit somebody you want to be right to the midst of Mickey Magilla you don't get the midst of tamatira that's why the gemara says because there's no way to be mikayem to Mitsubishi simultaneously that's the that's the answer of Sean mcclurger so the gura is coming to say well according to the baloitar that you're allowed to be mishtamesh with the narcanica so why don't you just light the narhanukkah foreign in other words the garage is refuting with the baloitor the girls refuting the battle eater the balita would have to stay back I hold like the hidden the girl apparently does not hold like because the girl is asking light the near chanukkah foreign against the Great khidash or maybe not is the Mitzvah to lighten their Shabbos or is the Mitzvah to make sure that there's light on and if there's light on then you're exempt from the Mitzvah right there's a big shadow when a woman likes candles could she make a bracha why should I why she lighting candles do you think she adds light the lights are on already it's not doing anything so some people are Mac but they turn off the lights turn off the light she lights the candles she then flicks on the lights and then she uh makes the bracha some people do that we don't do that because we say it does add something it makes it more it enhances the ambiance something like that he took me to a big Rabbi recently mccobel don't ask and the lights were on but he had candles going why it was much more spooky it was definitely more spooky did it add more light no but it definitely added to the atmosphere now in restaurants they don't want you to see the food you think it's because it adds to the Ambiance no it's because if you would see their the Health Report from the government of what what they found in the back in the kitchen in any restaurant you would never go there again so they turn off the lights so you don't exactly see what's going on over there what was not to see the bill right okay so so what the question is what does the balho eater hold the balita either holds foreign I'm learning as a student so you're chewing that's one my son and then you're talking while you're learning or you're thinking so in the makshava of learning and the act of chewing you're making the Sudan now eating a sudan Chavez is not push it what's the Mitzvah some learn the summary so you want to know you eat meat I'm eating meat no it's not you could do sitting in the Sook at anua the answer is you one mice is your your legs are in the position of sitting so so that your legs are doing a lot of Yeshiva and your mouth and eyes are doing the Mitzvah of tamatera but what you can't do is one act cannot get you the Fulfillment of two misses that's the concern lighting the candle right now this is the act the one act of lighting the candle it can't work for both narshadeshanaka you're right in other words let's say can I give one honey with one left hand one honey with the right hand and and and I'm on a bicycle at the same time being the kind you know because and I'm learning it's not that you it's not that you're not a dude that's I think that's more similar to mits us you know no it's one act it's one actilla is that act the Mickey Miguel Tama toyra or is it or yeah because it's it's it's about so it's not the act of lighting it's it's the Titans is Posh this is that's not there is it sad to say if there is already light then you're exempt from the Mitzvah so it could be what the Quran is saying is light the menorah and once you light the menorah now you're exempt maybe we'll agree with someone you can't get too much to say at the same time but once you light them in order you're in a matzah where you're exempt from their Shabbos so it's not that you're Makai in both it's you're makaiim one and you exempt the other here's another possibility that the Bible ether holds this Den that you could put it on your table but this guy it's not a Shasta Sakana he's just poor so could he put the nerconic on his table say well we see from that that's an option for near chanukkah so let's try to understand what does that means it's an option does that mean the midst of near Hanukkah is light the narrow on your desk the only thing is if you're able to light it outside light it outside if you're not able to let us that light by the window if you're not able to light on your table or is the midst of mariconica lighted outside and the option of lighting on your table is only available if you're a second if you're not a second you can't light it on your table so then the gross question doesn't start the gross question is according to the battle etor that you're allowed to be Nana from their chanukkah why don't you just lie down on your table maybe the Bell eater would say because it's not an option it's not a sakona by the way on the subject of Hadlock this is I said every year and I don't know why nobody does that but I it's in the beer halacha I saw it in um it's brought by Rushmore Felder in his conscious and now his sevron and on Hanukkah and it's hard something to think about if you ask somebody and they tell you there's a reason why we don't do it I try to do it brings down which means you have to physically light the whole Wick the way most people lie is they put wick on Wick it catches fire and they move on to the next he says United because the fire didn't yet spread to the part of the it's not enough that it catches and then spreads then you didn't light it you just lit the tip you have to hold it on until Rave of the wick that will catch fire already caught on and that's another like seven seconds per week in other words if you watch how when you light a wick how the fire takes hold first you know you hold it there and it you know it's starting to singe a little bit and then okay you see the little fire but then it takes a few seconds for the fire to spread down now you don't have to wait until it spreads down and covers the whole area it will spread to but the majority of the area the Vera says since you have to physically cause that as opposed to let it spread on its own next Indian okay so that that's in your number one La Mesa Mesa we pass again you can't even use it for attachment kadusha the garage to this is otherwise why don't you just use we pointed out Accord that shouldn't work next Indian let's say somebody comes back from a wedding I have a wedding Hanukkah Thursday night I have a first cousin getting married it's in Lakewood right so everybody knows Lakewood to Five Towns you might as well go to uh erits Israel you know on the flight you know it's cheaper the gas is cheaper the uh I mean the basically the flight costs and the gas to get to Lakewood is basically the same cost the time amount you know anyway um what's alcohol you come back at night or somebody comes back late from the office or somebody was on a trip and they come back one o'clock in the morning and everyone in the house is sleeping and they didn't light probably your wife should have lit she didn't light are you allowed to light the near Hanukkah 2 A.M so you say back in the day when the purpose of lighting is for the people on the street nobody's in the street 2 am you have a possums you have raccoons but that's not personal the Shiloh is do you have to wake people up in the house the midst of narcanic far is same for the people of the house do you have to wake them up okay why is the person themselves now what would the hell if you live in uh East New York I don't think too many people live in East New York these days but I know a guy he has his offices in East New York but um and there's nobody around even Chabad is not around could you make a bracha let's say you're the only Jew you live on an island you're the only Jew could you make a bracha if there's nobody around yes what for yourself so now the question is okay once we've established that if I'm the only guy in the neighborhood I'm allowed a light with the bracha so now I live in Cedarhurst how many Jews in Cedarhurst three thousand I have no idea I don't know nobody even wants to give a guess okay anyway so I live in Cedarhurst but the problem is I'm the only guy up so I should be able to make a bracha Misha Bruce says no I have to wake people up okay look in this is Simmons says so if I come home 3 45 A.M whoever said there's something called gazocina where did that come from right who said there's something called gazocina it's definitely not the I have the why you're waking them up so I would I would say okay are you allowed to wake somebody up so let's say now how many should you wake up the mission bro just doesn't wake Emma wake him up everybody so what you have a you have a baby three-month-old kid you know you bring them down they're like what are you supposed to do well that's you you know it's the guy's problem that he's showing up 3 45 a.m right instead of making Taco noise uh the way they should make the kind of where you let it go but right okay anyway the Charlotte ceiling says like this Charlotte says um that's the mug in avram okay this is wake up two or three viadlik now why two or three I never even thought about this why two or three what's a halacha El Savannah should you do with the minion you should try to do with the minion what if let's say it was cloudy and you can't come you know the minion's gone we're supposed to do it but seabor baraben does anybody know what is the minimum three three two you and you and there's a y or three maybe that's better that it's in front of a uh it's I'm not sure I'm here okay good but the khandel moisture says if you can't wake them up if they say huh huh no you know you know I'm gonna die the next the next minion right the image will keep some if you can't wake them up you could make a bracha not like the mission bura Mr Brewer says You must wake them up says try if you can you can make Hawaii listen to the mosh that you have to wake them up what if a person would live somewhere where Nobody's around yeah we don't find that listen to the argument is saying if you live in a neighborhood all by yourself you'll animate so if I if everyone's sleeping I should also be allowed to make a bracha you hear his argument against the mishnaburah Mr Brewer says You must wake up household members says you should try to but if you can't you don't have to the right is if you live by yourself with nobody around you could make a bracha so likewise you shouldn't have to wake anybody up you try getting this kid up right okay one's EF share one's not so what's the difference but the the charity and says try to wake them up but if you can't you can make says that if you can't wake them up don't make a bracha but if you want to be Noah we're not going to throw Rotten Tomatoes at you but let's try to explain the sheet of the mishaburra but the bottom line is Mission Brewer holds that if you live in Brownsville you light with the bracha but if you live in Cedarhurst at 3 45 a.m you're not your mahuv to wake up your household members why so I once heard as far many years ago the Mitzvah of presume Nisa is you need to spread it as much as possible so if you live in Brownsville this is the the presume Anisa available to me is me if I live in Cedarhurst to presumably Elise of ultimate is my household so I'm required to wake them up if you can't Rouse them yes feels their analogous and you could light with you come home late at night try to wake up so I wonder what would the mission Brewer say if I could only get one guy up um what now I would say the mission Bureau would say I have the ability to wake up my ha I have the availability of my household now I don't think Mr Jose have to wake up everybody I need to wake up in a representation of my household that's significant but I it seems like if you only get one guy up you can't get two guys up you can't make a what you can't make a broccoli so bottom line is if you come home from the bottom line is tell the the people in Lakewood you'll go to a chef after Hanukkah but if you can't pull that off and you come home late at night what yeah your pin class is volunteering to come over I don't know if that's going to cut it I have a question I have a question let's say you can't get up your household but you could get a penthouse I couldn't or let's say somebody starts a business 24-hour Round the Clock on call to come to your near Hanukkah but you can't get your household members you know they're like you know because they're like copenhas laughs what would be in other words you have to dafka beam mepharasima to your household or is it enough to be mafia's name that would be interesting would be enough to call somebody for anytime.com