Asara B'Teves - In the Worldview of Rav Yonasan Eibeshutz

this torah class is brought to you by torahanytime.com okay ah welcome everyone asar bhatteves so let me share with you a few thoughts from hagon robinus and ibisets who was one of the most brilliant minds who ever lived he was also one of the greatest marabitsa torah in in europe in the times of sun even his detractors say that he taught more than twenty four thousand tau medium in his career so reviews wrote the aristowash which is a famous safer of drush and he refers to the uh the famous comment of the avojoham every everybody likes to talk about the avodraham what does that say abujam says that even though us orbites cannot fall out on shabbos but if it were surya would fall out on chavez you would fast even on shabbos why because the navi says the question is yeah okay he says but you can't pass out but shabbos is uh it's a demon attire how do you fast on shabbos so the best yosef says well maybe what the uh means is it says by sarah and it says just like yom kippur you fast on shabbos so to ah sarah teves you would fast on shabbos but the base joseph is bothered you know that abu jahme is a great man but he's not a tana he can't make xero shava so what exactly does the abuja mean why would you fast on shabbos if as-sarah bataves would come out on shabbos there's a famous shadow of the cypher we'll get to it later let's first say over what ravionis and ibishit says let's get the lush another positive positive sounds like this shauna hatchis on the tenth day of the tenth month right now is the tenth month davis is the tenth month and i survived the tenth day of the tenth month ben adam why is he called the son of man that might be a guild goal of have al who is write the name of the day this very day what happens the king of babel siege you shine on this very day okay so the question is um why does it say like it's repetitive it says shame hayoim you know it's superfluous it's repetitive so he quotes the fei tayar who says that shame hyoim is the day of the week what day of the week was it and that's the day of the month so it's not being repetitive the navi is recording two important pieces of information write the day of the week and write as adsen right the day of the month so has two jobs you know i'm sure he could handle it it's not a big deal you write the the day of the week and the day of the month the question is ask the vienna ibishits and that is we don't find the torah ever saying what day of the week something is you ever noticed that not anywhere now separation doesn't ever say it happened on a tuesday it happened on a thursday it happened on a shabbos no day of any week is ever mentioned by any event in kotori it says you know i'm re-shining you i'm shaney it doesn't even say sunday monday tuesday you know you wouldn't even know that it's sunday monday tuesday if not for the fact that the seventh day right it doesn't say this happened on you right the the creation creation yeah right doesn't say you know on a tuesday the malachan came to abraham on thursday hashem decided to destroy saddam you know it's interesting why the gemara says in rosh hashanah baseball is on the day of the week and this is the only instance in hawtanach which according to the fei tayyar the navi's asked to write down the day of the week why so says that got me thinking what day of the week was it right i don't think i never heard this before what day of the week was the siege of the first day samaktas so he says like this there's a you xiaomi and it's brought the torah and i i admit i wasn't familiar with this that the first base hamikdash was destroyed on aleph of it must be printing mistake the tour says it was destroyed in aleph i thought it was the store i mean yeah bring the torah i mean did i do we have they never told me that in yeshiva that the first place in register the gemara says they were both destroying tishabab i'm assuming he means on a sunday then and it was a sunday i mean if you could look at the words that we're reading the same way he says that the first place was destroyed on uh aleph of it's hard for me to remember every single tour you know um i don't know i don't know i have to look it up later okay that's what he says i don't even think we need it for the piece he just quotes you xiaomi and the tour that the base amigos was drawn to aleph of and matsushavus was nakhrav it was okay so basically destroyed on a monster shabbos so now it says let's make it according to the say there are the months rosh hashanah following the corbin that means if the corbin tish above was a sunday then the following rosh hashanah was a wednesday obviously why obviously i don't know but that's what he says he says that if tish above was on a sunday then the following rosh hashanah is wednesday okay that means so far i don't know why how about the roshana before that's the big question how about the rosh hashanah we know the roshan are following us what about roshana before what 59 days away so what is it yeah yeah but eight weeks later is 56 and then and then you add thursday friday what so it's destroyed on a sunday so monday tuesday wednesday i'm counting if you say it was destroyed okay so you're saying the the first baseman was destroyed on aleph and it was destroyed on a sunday so then it comes out rosh hashanah the following year was a wednesday 59 days later okay and what about when was rosh hashanah the year before so there's a clown the gemara what four days apart when cain roshan is later fine that means the previous rosh hashanah was on shabbos is going to come out on shabbos okay so first place of english reviews destroyed on a on a uh aleph of on sunday which would then come out that the following rosh hashanah was a wednesday and the roshana before was a very interesting so now we know the year that siege that very day was shabbos so that means the original as-sarbath was the shabbos ah now we know why it was so important to write what day it happened because had it not had if it didn't write what they had happened we never would have known that if a sarah tavis would come out on shabbos you have to fast on shabbos why would you fast on shadows how could you fast on chops but now we know that the original asarabhatebase was not only the atsam hyoim on a sarah batavis but it was also as the pastor says which was shabbos so therefore it must be if that's obvious we'll come out on shops you have to fast because that's that's how it happened okay so something bad happens on chavis that's enough to trump shabbos in other words like a tightness would be the same type of idea well you usually not you know there's a famous casa why doesn't every tinus trump hashabas why because you're right shabbos is the raisa but eating on shabbos who says he got to eat on chalice doesn't say in the torah you have to eat in chaves it's the navi ishaya navi shaya says the kerasa the shabbos and the navi says you have to fast which navi the navi zakaria says so now you have you know a clash between twin of him so what do you do nobody are you screaming at you don't eat nobody shy screaming at you eat eat eat because so who do you listen to what are you doing you have tuna vehement conflict you can't act so what does shavalt has to say don't eat so every single tiniest that comes out of chavez you should not eat right that's the cash so once we're on that cash show we'll stay over so so so far let's just come back to be honest honestly is that the reason why if a sarba tavis would come out on shabbos you would fast on shabs because the original sarah batevis came out on shabbos and that is why the navy says day of the month that's why it's the only time in tanakh where the day of the week was written let's come back to the milkha you have navi against navi no view against navi zakariya who's going to win shabbat so whenever a fast comes out on chavez you should always fast so this is one of the many questions from which derives that no navi ever said what day of the month to pass the navi only picked the month and the later picked the day so the navi zakaria just says fast in the fourth month the fifth month the seventh month the tenth month he doesn't say fast on the 17th day of the fourth month doesn't say fast on the ninth day of the fifth month he just says the month late and every ones you could fast the first ones you could pass the second as long as you get it in the month you're following the naviem so now the nova ushaya says eat on shabbos and zacharia says don't eat this month say how could you fast you're not listening to anybody right because the navy navi's not telling you to fast today the rabban on our thing to pass today so navi versus alumnus this is all fine and dandy for all the other tanis the navi doesn't just say the month yeah the navi zakaria says girl says so now the navi's telling you the day so now that your high school is saying fast the navi you're shy you're saying to eat what do you do you fast that's the reason why that vodram says that if the servatives would come out on travis you would fast is it because you're back to them you should always fast when a fast day comes out on shabbos because navi versus navi shabbat and the only answer is that navi doesn't pick the day but i serve at tavis and now he did pick the days no victory day you're back to him you could fast that's maybe what the ava means says it's not making shava a servative to m kepper is saying the navi picked the day since now you pick the day you're back to the you're back to the um so i heard that islam this many years ago from somebody with shlaim a warman but since then i've seen the the says it okay let's come to the shot of the helicopter which i'm sure everybody's familiar with but it's kadai to say over and that is some safer says that you know there are two types of tane sim there is by other the imai the art site and there is a tiny one you could fast on shabbos one you can't fast in charms yom shame you cannot fast on shabbos tennis halloween you could fast on chalice what's the difference what's in afghamina so some servants says in afghanis you can't cry on shabbos over spilled milk because maya hanya is not accomplishing anything but you could cry if the crying is going to create accomplish something constructive so yamcha makes by of ima it's a terrible day but what are you crying for something that happened in the past your tears are not doing anything so you can't uh you can't fast on shabbos however says that means when you fast for halloween you're accomplishing something you're you're erratic and you're abolishing the ominous effect of the dream so from here we're learning aside on shabbos you're not at a fast over the past but you could have fast if it's going to accomplish something for the future so the server is my gala tremendous side what the makara's and that is that on tish above is a terrible terrible day but on tissue of you crying over spilled milk so if tishava comes out on childhood you can't fast shavasana town is a terrible day you're crying over spilled milk the breaching of the walls you can't fast on chalice asaraba teves sarah batavia says some safer is the beginning of the process stamina by the way before we get to some sofa the venezuela says straight up ascata de paranusadifa asarbatives was the first step of the process that's when they surrounded the walls the first step of the process is always the most bitter and therefore it's so bitter even if it would fall out on shabbos you could fast but darko explains that since it's the beginning of the process every asari batave hashem convenes bezen shamala and he decides whether the procedure and process of hormone will go into effect this year right we know the the calendar the jewish calendar it's a living calendar it's not just things that happened in the past if there was corbin then every year on a sarah but it's like the enemies surrounding you shall i and breaching on shiva also burning on tisha every asara batavis the day that the surrounded the wall hashem convenes besides milo will there be a tish above this here therefore says some soy fair it's not like tisha b'av and it's not like you're not crying over spilled milk your tears and your fasting could make it that there won't be corbin this year and therefore you allowed a fast on a sarbatives if it would come out on shabbos just like you're allowed to fast on um for a bad dream that's i'm safer so last year actually common growth showed me another piece in the yaristinash and he just says something very interesting i copied it today this one is in what we learned so far is in jerusalem everybody knows when is mashiach it's a madrish was born so the question is so when was mashed conceived so you would say nine months earlier so nine months earlier is the ninth day of khajban yeah kislev it was seven months so meshiach was uh the heroine of mashiach as far as i know nobody else says this it's a tremendous thing now so i was wondering well last year when um sean mccommons showed this to me like how do we know that meshiach was the heroine was the makutan so i found in another soifer that some services roived sadiq are born early why because for most people it's about right it says better not to be around right because uh you know you're not doing anything good in this world but toys says that's for hashem but for sadiq and it's sadiq they want to get out fast so sam sophia says so then maybe we could assume then limako time and that means the heroine of mashiach is amazing so it comes out the most tragic day of the year is above meshech is born the next the most tragic deal here conceived i found in another sofa that you'd say in baton rouge you know what happened in the azian botamos boyas lived with rose and euvaid was conceived so it's interesting maybe it could be media it says it will be basically why the basic why not for college you know why the emphasis on basic huda somehow latent in these days is a besides the fact that it's a young simple for all of kaiser but specifically for malcolm's based of it was conceived will be conceived will be born on tisha maybe that's the emphasis on so it comes out let's just explain it comes out very nice that the same way that some soifer says the beginning of the process of horben is when a sarbatives right that's the tish above is the grand finale it's the grand finale for corbin but it's also grand finale for binyan born asar betavis is the hasshala of corbin this is a very important day this this day is like mamas break it or make it or break it either we set things in the right motion meshiac is conceived and you know we're we're setting ourselves up to be in a good situation or we're preparing ourselves for disaster but putting together this idea of revenues and ibisits that meshiach has conceived with some sofa that this is the beginning of the process of corbin so like you see how asar teves plots the chorus and then tish above it comes to fruition so then let me show you i saw today now let's look at the whole year okay the year is what 12 months every three months it's like zelu um on the 10th day of the month 10th day of tishrei um that's the 10th day of tishrei three months later is what sabotage the beginning of the end three months later exactly your nissan classical and third earth israel and what else shabby sagado the beginning of the gula right because they even ask shabbos hagado the only time that we commemorate a day of the week why don't we commemorate your nissan the day that it happened so either the ta's or the magana run brings down that we don't commemorate your nissan because you need some people are going to think it's because that's the day we cross the yard right but it happened on your nissan and then three months later is what tess tamos which is the breaching of the walls by right yeah so it's like good bad good bad um first you have yum kipper on the tenth day and then three months later you have sarba teves and then three months later you have cs mitzrayim and then three months later you have the breaching of the walls that's the observation revenue synapses but the truth is based on what we're learning even us probably each day has its you know has it in itself right so then what what are what is the redeeming factor of your day in thomas we said that's when oived was conceived what is the so now what about yum kippur yum kipper you know it's a wonderful day but there are hasimas probably that are not so wonderful and and what happened on yo nissan that wasn't that wasn't so good i don't know we don't need to know but that's the idea that's the concept so we should talk about in the few remaining moments of asava terrace we hope that ben david should be misaber the you've just experienced another torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com