Telz - Rabbi Gifter & Lubavitch

a good Avvo we are between Pesach shiny and lot very my pace is saying being Friday my beard is coming week two very special days in our calendar very significant and very powerful we're surrounded like a sandwich between the kedusha of the two I want to continue our history series on tells and Lubavitch in the last segment we spoke about tells as it came to America and we'll pick up there tell started in Cleveland Ohio in the earth in the 1940s by son-in-law and another individual who are the cats and at my books I think grandson who started to yeshiva there in the 50s and 60s rabbi mordechai gifter came to the yeshiva and was a mainstay in the yeshiva in fact my father's as I doesn't maybe well received his visa to come to America because of the achievement tells by Salman Schneerson physical abuse cousin was had a good relationship with with the lead fish world and they're above him because many of them received help from him when he was in Paris he was a tremendous asking and atomic Aukerman a Hasid but he helped everyone not just Sid Amanda Babbage acidnam and because of that he was able to call upon them when he needed help as well and my father benefited from that relationship so in 1958 he finally after six months he was able to get the visa and he came to America he came to the river and then he went to Cleveland to thank the yeshiva and to thank the administration for issuing him the visa to come to America when he came there he met rabbi gifter it seems like he was in charge of that program in addition to being one of the maguey determinacy fevers and he he a big iftar said to him I see you on the battery so he said to him I'm a gift it was a very sharp he had a very sharp tongue he said for them publicly - a keen eye visitors come and oh this is two two two two fellows son of a and you know me didn't for this I needed to give you a reason to build a barber chair to come here mia give him visas so debugger inverse vila madalena we give visas those that want to come learn now your she even tells my father said he's not able to that that's what he wanted but he's not able to because of various reasons and he thanked him profusely but he detected the rabbi gift errs words kind of you know Alabama - should go to the Babbage what do you need tells for this was in 1958 okay now we know the Shapiro family rabbi Lipa Shapiro and his and his children his wife and children the labels appear absorber Shapiro the other Shapiro brothers Paul Tommy the Commandant personalities in their long right today a burning slew him Robbie Shapiro the father that belief of Shapiro had a close relationship I was told with a big iftar and once grab a gift er called them over and set in gates opted in the Babbitt endeavoured when you when you have a chance kind of go and share this with her neighbor I said governor Ibaka there was a student who I heard spoke against that ever I called them into the lunchroom privately and I asked him what did to connect and connect them to a barbecue there but did you speak against Allah by the chair ever and the buckler said yes a big iftar said pack your bags take the first Greyhound bus to New York go to the river take your shoes off and ask Mithila asked for forgiveness for what you did and when I hear that you did that I'll take I'll take you back to the Asifa and he told her he told her believers appeareth to share this with the never the next time he was a believer Shapiro was in New York for the for you trot yeah you see this and he told that ever I have a message from robbery gifter for you so he told the river what are the gift is said that ever sat back in a chair usually when he this in that fàbregas Lepus at the front part of the chin didn't lean back so he said like you mean back for a moment and the broad smile was on his face and he said yesterday aapke Gandhian Helen the Hester see this something like that now a great concealment upon casitas has been removed no interpretation is needed that's what that's what was said meaning that raba gifter tells the literature yeshiva recognized kind of you know the data percent of the way the Baal Shem Tov an hour a babe and that have been the Babbage and everything else another person who was very close to grab a gift her like I told you several times during these last few weeks was rabba a kyon good Nick of Australia who learnt details in Europe and whose older older brother in a sense was rather gifter who took him under his wings and he taught him while in you know in Intel's and rabbi maybe good Nick was kind of also on Leah an emissary broker whatever you want to call it with messages from rather gifter to the rabbit and I beginners 1960s had certain complaints on the Babbage you know why don't they join the brisket or tell you to and why why'd you test you so it's considered haha game and and you know holiday of holidays is what's the greatest holiday and without it there's no other holidays how could you say that and and then such a you know arguments and positions and questions Arabic good Nick presented them to the Rebbe I believe in 1963 or 64 when he had his first you see this with the rabbits was private audience and then up answered him and the rabbit told them you know various things to to to reply to and bring back to rabbi gifter there were several students in the 1960s that today Allah babbage's that learnt in tells a bi from Glick of Australia and I mortify mati burger of Canada Ontario all of a sudden and I borrow Rubenstein and Rabbi mattes Cantor today of Crown Heights and several others who learnt over the years I'm talking now about late 50s and 60s in tells of Cleveland tells had a policy that Bakken don't wear beards only the Russia Shiva's wear beards McGee be shootin the ones giving the lectures the rabbi's the scholars but the the average student doesn't wear beard and they didn't kind of allow you to have a beard well one of these students that I mentioned he had a beard and when he came to the Achieva and he was sent to the yeshiva to tells by their ever he wanted to go to the Babbitt even for whatever reason that ever told them and instructed him twice to go to tells in fact in 1963 I think January 1 of 63 there was a fire in one of the dormitories and tells and the that ever had told him to go to tell so he wanted to come to the Shiva and they told me they don't have place in the dormitory so he told their ever you know that there's no place and he'd like to go to the Bible teach even that ever told him basically to you know to stay where he was where he was until then which wasn't the yeshiva cough it's time of Baltimore and then wait and go the next man after they do open up in Rome in the registration because they rebuilt that the dormitory go to tells so it's clear that there ever the rebels pushing him and encourage him to go to tells during that time anyway he got the tells and he got there with a beard and he was he was the one who used the word persecuted but he was really bullied by the Bufferin and not by the Han Hall I asked him not by the administration but by the buffer him they gave me this other sister tells her students they really gave him a hard time they bullied him and and they badgered him and they made fun of him and it was really you know not nice at all so he wrote to the tablet he was in a quandary maybe he should take off the beard because it's it's against the policy of the yeshiva and they never answered him with a few short words certainly you should not take off your beard not if that was the Rebbe his words and of course he didn't take take off his beard and he told me he was in the yeshiva for 13 months from September of 64 and he told me she was a very good yeshiva he was there 13 months and he learned very well and he really lauded the yeshiva that's after the fact that he was badgered and by the students but as far as the learning and and the rabbi's and their Shiva he had a good relationship with them we we see that there was so what I'm showing you is there was like a a mixed kind of approach tells tells of a Babbage hat tells hat Tula Babbage my preliminary discovery and findings is that rubber gifter by a large was accepting of the Babbage until the late 70s and early 80s when rabbi shakhov of Bnei Brak became by the late Fisher world the God Allah door and he had these accusations of the Babbage and the rebel and everyone knows it was a big feud and at that time Rabbi gifter became a proponent an opponent and very vocal I mean he was always a very vocal person very sharp very bright he could he spoke very well and he was considered in the late official world a loss of Shiva that you know born in America went to Europe received his education from the from the big receivers of Europe came back to America and became the minister Shiva who he was he with several others of such nature were kind of the the new generation of Russia Shiva's because the other is the old generation of Europe passed on he positioned himself as being a leading supporter of the receiver Parnevik company brac and that meant to oppose the Babbage endeavor however had not convinced that that was his real real self people are complex and complicated and to know what one really believes and really who one is is a is a difficult thing and yet it's a sham in the next clip again I'm tells and the Babbage will share a few other stories and try to put this all together to walk away with a clear perspective have a great week a frail who my brain man and could died up Shimon miss McAuliffe we can rely on a shipment to bring the gear over at the end this Tarou played in which you have machines at Cana because of mom-ish or mainly on me