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Rabbi Barnett Kiruv Training
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thank you for volunteering to be a
mentor in the Jane Spire uh Kusa program
just want to give you a a short set of
guidelines to help your Kusa go more
smoothly some Asos uh to help you be
more effective so the first thing you
have to know as in all Cur of um
activities the number one idea the
number one uh point that we have to keep
stressing again is it's all about
relationship 95% of Outreach perus
learning being a mentor to somebody is
about relationships now it's interesting
because theusa the learning which we
often we understand that's the goal
that's the job that really just provides
AAS it provides you a set time to
develop a relationship with somebody and
to move them along in a care of process
so that's how you have to look at it's a
cavas you're they to establish the
relationship so particularly in the
beginning when you learn with somebody
what you want to do is you want to shmoo
with them you want to get to know them
you want to make a connection to them
and become a friend that's going to be
the background the backdrop of of your
learning with them so you want to take
that time to start uh with shooing with
with reconnecting always with connecting
to them now some people particularly
ladies are so great at shooing and so
great at relationships that they forget
to move to the learning it is a good
idea to always try to Pivot at some
point to sharing some learning with them
to sharing some wisdom with them because
you don't want it to be just about
relationship about going out for coffee
about having a new friend you wanted to
have a new friend but you want to be
able to move it in a Yiddish k um type
of a way now sometimes people think you
know U if you haven't done this before
you're not used to cure of that you have
to convince someone of your position
when you learn with them or you have to
argue or you have to be the defender of
the Orthodox position you don't really
have to do that at all you're not
presenting yourself as a teacher you're
not presenting yourself as an expert as
a rabbi or a Ritson you you really are
presenting yourself and should present
yourself as someone who's sharing the
learning process with you I might know
more than you you might know a little
less than me but we're going to learn
together you'll learn what you don't
know I'll learn I'll learn what I don't
what I don't know you should also uh
realize that often the mentor Kusa
relationship will wax and Wayne a little
bit um sometimes you'll be learning week
in week out or every every two weeks
every 3 weeks whatever the case might be
and then you'll get busy or they'll get
busy and it'll wait a little bit so it's
important first of all for you not to be
discouraged not for you to be
disappointed not for you to think that
they're not interested most of the time
it's not that they're not interested
it's just that they got busy just like
you got busy then to go back to you know
a point really I should have made at the
outset it's it's probably a good idea
for you to touch base with your Kusa
weekly that should be your goal you
should try to learn weekly um but at the
very least touchbased weekly I'll tell
you why because if you get in the habit
of touching Bas and saying hi you know I
know we can't learn this week but I just
want to say hi and maybe here's an idea
you might leave them with or you might
give them a idea about Shabbat or
something like that it makes it much
easier to pick up the learning again
with them when they're available or when
you're available in other words if you
haven't seen somebody or had any contact
with somebody for for weeks on end it
becomes a little awkward
picking up the learning so you could
text you could call you could email just
make sure you keeping contact that's the
idea just like you would in any normal
relationship uh you would keep
up you you would keep up the
contact now to that extent you know
sometimes what I what I always do
whether I'm in a waning period or I'm
just uh in a normal period of my Kusa is
every once in a while I'll send a really
good article or a video that I will see
you know on h.com or other websites that
I think would interest them now it's
very important to not in in dat you know
there are always people who send you uh
it seems like they send you 15 emails a
day and you never even open up the email
anymore you don't want to be that
stalker with your partner so I have a
kind of a rule of thumb don't really
send anything more than twice a month
unless you know that they want to hear
what you're sending them in other words
if they love Israel or they're they're
totally fix fixated on what's happening
with Iran and Israel you know send them
those kind of Articles send it to them
or if they love history or if they love
any particular thing that you can send
them but if not try not to send them
anything more than twice a month and
never send it as a chain email that
you're saying to a lot of different
people always make it personal because
again it's a way to move your
relationship forward and it it just
keeps a backdrop of yish kite a backdrop
of
ideas um now
one one important thing is um if you do
have disagreements with your kuso or
they're just not you know at your level
at this point from various observances
try to validate them in other words for
I give you an example if someone says
their their daughter or their um their
niece you know their sister's daughter
just had this sort of trb Mitzvah in in
Israel or whever it might be and you
know it's not the way you would do it or
I would do it just try to validate them
to the extent of you know it's really
amazing that many people today wouldn't
even choose to have a bar mitzvah so
many people don't even care it's amazing
that you still care that you're able to
do it now you didn't you didn't um
validate or say the way they did it was
great but you really validated them and
their Jewish expression they don't you
don't want to ever let them feel judged
that's one of the things that kind of is
in the back of their psychology that
Orthodox people judge them so you want
to be validating s similarly when they
ask a question even if it's a
challenging question or they make a
statement you always try to validate to
the extent you can boy you're really
thinking that's really an important
issue that's really a sensitive issue if
they demonstrate good MOS you know they
they particularly don't gossip or when
uh or they're very good at kav aim Tre
try to stress that and try to say to
them you know that is an amazing you
know uh character trait that you have
and it's really something that's very
much stressed in our tradition they'll
feel like a million bucks feel very good
about that
another very important thing is don't
let the Cur of that you're doing outpace
the relationship the relationship is
like the foundation of a building if you
have an example a very small Foundation
you can't put a huge first floor on that
foundation so for example if someone
would ask you a very challenging
question something about homosexuality
as an example something about women and
Judaism something that you find very
very challenging it's almost almost
aggressive so at the right time with the
right Rel relationship that you have
with your partner there's almost no
topic that cannot be addressed
everything is on the table when you have
a good relationship because it's not uh
they don't take it personally if you
have a very little relationship there's
almost no sensitive topic that you can
talk about so it's very important always
keep putting into the relationship keep
putting into the relationship and then
you can um in a commensurate way move
along the cir for example at some point
you could ask your Kusa if they'd like
to spend the Shabbat at your house a
whole Shabbat now if you did that right
off the bat that would probably be
outpacing the relationship but if you
did at the appropriate time it would be
a natural
extension of the
relationship um and another way to deal
with some controversial issues or
questions that you don't think they're
ready to deal with is push them off I
always do this now one of the ways to
push it off very nicely is just saying
you know that's a very important Point
very valid question you have you know
and again validate the question or the
idea but say you know that has got to
you have to develop a context you have
to know more about Judaism about Jewish
philosophy to really put this piece in
the puzzle in it's a very important
piece like in an example sadic varala
rushab vovo that's a very important
philosophical question that many people
are bothered by but you kind of need to
know who's God how does God run the
world what is the purpose of man to be
able to really understand that properly
it can't be taken out of context so
that's one way to push off I also push
off with humor all the time I'll give
you an
example someone will ask me you know a
lady will ask me a question typical
question you know Rabbi how come women
are second class citizens in Judaism and
I always make a bit of a joke and I say
you know I'll i' be happy to answer your
question but but why you asking me I'm
part of the I'm on the opposite team I'm
one of the oppressors you that's what I
tell them they laugh you know but I but
but what it does is it sort of once you
make a joke and once you you throw it
off it sort of you you reduce the
challenge I know rev nor Weinberg Z he
used to always say when someone ask a
question he wanted to know if they were
serious he would say ah you'll think the
answer is crazy and when they were
persist three times and saying no I
really want to know similar to what you
do with a gar you push them away three
times he'd finally say okay you want to
hear he'd tell them the answer and they
would say Rabbi that was the craziest
thing I ever heard he said I told you so
that's what you would say but again it
disarms him totally and what it does is
it qualifies the question when it's it's
really a question because often
sometimes throw out questions they just
uh they're not really bothered by
something or they want to push you off
particularly when I hear men talk about
women's issues I'm like they don't
really care about women's issues I know
it's a push off n out of 10 times the
Holocaust question how could God do that
that's a push off as well so you have to
know when to answer a question and when
not to when not to ask a question and
when the appropriate time is to ask a
question now the the other thing that's
very important is when you don't know
the answer to a question the best answer
is I don't know and it's very
underutilized but again as we said
before if you don't hold yourself as an
expert or a rabbi or a Ritson or someone
that you know is quote unquote the
Orthodox Authority then you should be
more comfortable saying I don't know and
I don't know is a tremendous validation
of the other person when they hear I
don't know and you you follow it up with
well that was a great question and
sometimes you'll even say you know
that's something that I've done by wrote
my whole life and I really should know
that I'm almost embarrassed I don't know
that they feel tremendous then you could
say and we'll find out about that
together that's a great question that I
should have asked a long time ago and
we'll find it out or it's could be also
a very good opportunity to connect them
with a rabbi connect them to an article
connect them to a person that really can
answer that question and if it was a
rabbi or a Ritson or someone in the
community that's a whole another uh uh
Aid in the Cure of process that you've
then you know grafted on to your tree so
that's that's a very very best answer is
I don't
know now one thing I would recommend
this is totally up to you it won't make
it won't necessarily make you less
effective Kusa is that you really can
always work on your knowledge base your
cure of knowledge base you know if you
were to to look um through the book uh
the H h.com book cure of primer it's
called the eye of the needle it's a fell
time book fantastic it'll go through
almost any issue that a new B Chua will
have women's issue issues of Torah and
science proofs of God proofs of Torah
how to approach Kim like Kash and so on
and so forth It's a tremendous book if
you just want to get a basic overview
it's because you're a little unsure of
some of the questions that they might
ask also to go on h.com and to peruse
that website say reading an article or
two a week they ask the rabbi section is
also fantastic to build up your C of
knowledge database also the the as the
rabbi um you know uh site is also
phenomenal and there's another website
simple to remember which is also quite
good so this is something you can do to
um you know increase your knowledge and
increase your efficacy in your Kusa
learning I just want to mention as well
if you go on tangents in your learning
and you talk about personal issues and
different things don't think you're not
doing the assignment this is
particularly for the men out there that
are listening to this men think if think
that if you have a job and your job is
to learn if you straight from the
learning it did something wrong it
didn't follow directions that's not true
because in this uh Endeavor in this
relationship building that we're after
the tangents are often the most
important things that will move them
along in a cure of context and I think
you'll find as you learn with people
some of the best sessions were those
sessions when you went off the track and
you didn't you didn't necessarily get to
the learning you were interested in or
perhaps sometimes you didn't even get to
the learning at all you can kind of show
them Judaism in real life in real action
now um what you should also do as as as
you can is to extent possible is look
for other opportunities to get them
involved in yishai beyond your learning
remember the learning is getas but you
want to be thinking what's the next
experience my partner needs should I
bring them um to a Sim I one of my Simas
should I get them for shabas Friday
night should I get them for the entire
shabas should I bring them to a perm
suit what can I do with simplest Torah
what's what's the ne should I suggest a
trip to Israel what's the next
experience I can get my partner uh to be
doing you also want to want to um think
about the wider cure of situation what
about the husband what about the wife
what about the children because you're
going to T typically the Kus the mentor
is a point person to a whole family so
to the extent you can it'd be great if
you can get your husband or your wife to
perhaps come in and help you with the
kir of with their spouse or for example
example they have children that are
teenagers what's ncsy doing in your area
are there any other resources that you
could be a sh and hook up her
significant others in her life um as
well one other very good thing is to
know if the kids are in college who is
the campus marar is there a good person
is there a moreor person on campus I
just had the Good Fortune I've been
working with a good friend of mine for
20 years and his daughter just went off
to University of Maryland I happen to
know there's a great K fellow from a
rabbi from a on that campus I made the
sh it's been tremendous how she's grown
and how my friends family has grown so
think about the uh other people in the
family that you can help move
along now another thing is you know at
some point it goes beyond relationship
you do want to try to help them not only
have more great Jewish uh experiences
but you also like to help them increase
their observance and again if you have a
very strong relationship it's no problem
asking people um about mitah observance
the way I do it I think I have a very
good mahalik in this is that you say
have you ever thought of dot dot dot
have you ever thought of keeping kosher
have you ever thought or considered
about sending your your child to Day
School you're you're posing it as a
discussion amongst two friends you're
giving them credit for their SE for
their their knowledge for them being a
mature person who has and they they take
it that way it's a discussion and often
they'll say you know I did consider once
a long time ago keeping kosher but you
know now I'm considering it even more
strongly and you have a wonderful
discussion now if they decide to take on
the Mitzvah great if they don't take on
the Mitzvah it will not hurt your
relationship at all it really will
strengthen it if it's if it comes from
this uh this kind of approach have you
ever considered the ball's in your court
I'm not telling you to do anything we're
just having a discussion about it I'll
give you another idea that I use
typically Russ shayam Kipper but it's uh
good for the whole year round it's based
on the Mahar um commentary in the mavos
that the world stands on three things
Torah aod and he says that represents
three different relationships in the
world Torah is your relationship to
yourself aod prayer is your relationship
to God and the third relationship is is
your relationship to your fellow man and
I say to them just like a stool needs
three legs to be able to stand so to
human being to be holistic to to be a
full holistic Jew you need both all
three of these legs Define um so I say
we should always have something
in that we're doing some way we're
reaching out to other people we should
always have something that we're doing
in our relationship to God whether it's
the Sha whether it's prayer whether it's
fill in Maza something expressing our
connection to God and we should also be
learning Torah that's that's related to
myself and my growth my character
development I finally think is a
tremendous thing this it takes it from
being overwhelming the 613 to be saying
I should be doing three Mitzvah always
working on three areas of growth uh
Torah a
and I just find this is a very nice way
of helping them along in Mitzvah
observance the other thing that we just
want to mention particularly now I'm
happen to be uh giving this year um
right on the cus of Hanukah starting
tonight every um holiday provides a
tremendous cure opportunity Hanukah is
one of those great great holidays that
also has this idea of giving a gift
which is American culture in the guil
but we can use it to our advantage as
well you can get them a very nice little
book a Jewish matters it's in the it's
in the air a season of giving so to give
them a gift to give them a book Russ AA
time to give them honey to give them an
easy Outreach gift that project Inspire
is always um bringing to the market um
this is a tremendous opportunity to have
them over over your home for a MBA where
you're candle lighting to bring them
over to your home on soot for a um for a
meal in the these are great
opportunities that we have you know
every few months to have to to bring
someone into your home and have an
enhanced care of experience um so this
is just a short overview of um of uh
Kusa relationship a mentor relationship
um also just one one other idea about
what to learn now we have we have a
curriculum called The Higher Ground uh
Jewish life curriculum which is uh a
taus Kim curriculum dealing with
pleasure and love and relationship
self-esteem you're welcome to use that
and we have that posted on our website
jar. but also if you don't often what
what uh appeals to people is kind of
what you're interested in they say that
words that come from the heart into the
heart so you're passionate about and
you're interested in and what you feel
you can kind of give over and feel
comfortable with typically your partner
will like that as well I just I find
that many people don't really have uh
such an answer to what do you want to
learn and it's really so much about the
relationship but we do also at uh at
project Inspire have a list of books
that we can give you if you want to
learn about prayer you want to learn
about any other topic we can give you
that list and always you know I find
peros and Kish are two very good tried
andr areas to to to learning from which
you can use the jump off points to go in
any any which way any direction you want
so if you need any more information
please get in touch with me RA Sim
Barnett at sarett Pro Inspire uh.com and
we'll be happy to help you further with
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