Rabbi Avraham Shmuel Levine of Tel Aviv #2- Yeshiva Kfar Chabad, RSC Kesselman- RC Dalfin

I'm here for the second part of the interview with Rabbi Abram Schmool Levan of Tel Aviv who's telling us a little bit about his life story and also his work. We'll hear now more. Continue. So this was so so this was the end of that. Yeah. And then I went to Okay. Okay. 1965. Now I want to give you I want to give you a little background before before I left. Yes. of the they said you're going to so you're going to be he was the yes and you should know that is considered a and because means that he is someone who's not he doesn't consider the rebba as his rebba but rather looks at the the and the as in kabad we call that nifred also because separate because he didn't encourage people to go to the Reb, right? He didn't he didn't encourage the Bakarim to come to the Reba for the holidays for Tish. Right. Yeah. Now what? So friends of yours told you this. Yeah. So they told me so remember you're going to you stay away from him. Don't have anything to do with him because he also become a because you'll become an 16 17 years old. So this you know this makes an impact. So this so that's what happened. I was there and I stayed away and I stayed away for for you know I said shikimum and and all that but I didn't go to ask him questions I I just and I don't remember if I went to his maybe I did go to I sat in the back so that went on for let's say for the first month then I had to write to the rebba so I wrote to the rebba about something and then I asked them a sha a personal Yeah. You asked a personal question in in in way to conduct yourself as serving God. Yeah. So the said based on you should get your advice from the Mashia referring to the moment he told me that the Reb told you that. The moment the Reb told me that everything that my friends told me was right was a abolished is abolished. He was my mashia and I'm going to be close to him and I became very close to him. And what I found out is that people didn't know. Now it's already published in the in the right that the reason that he didn't send people to the bum to the Reb right away. He said first you have to be know how to learn. Yeah. And then you'll be have you be you'll be a to be when you go to the Reb but not and what is now revealed is that this he did on the of the Reb instructed him to do that not not not right right okay now I'm just curious you became close to him um did you see something like you say you were close to then became close to um for a moment could you say could you talk about the was Is there a difference to you? Oh, sure, sure, sure. Was more, you know, before you go account of your day each night. And was about Yeah. And uh but what I saw afterwards, I used to get a letter from the Reb and I would get I would get the Reb would answer me every month. Whatever. Whatever I wrote, he answered every time. Yeah. And uh and he I have those letters. I'm sure. And so I would go to Sham and when I told him tell him about certain thing that I had a question and I didn't show him all my letters but it was a letter that that I had a question. I went to him and I remember that I remember that he said to me just a moment before he looked at it just a moment he put on his gar and then he he he read he looked at the letter. Okay. So that shows you what kind of what kind of nippity he was. Yeah. But I want to tell you a certain story. I I I mentioned this a lot of times that fab people. I remember that year the end of that year there was the ka the older older like the were older than me was like and they were in the when when I was in they were they were in the used to be from pes to pes so they came in 19shin and I still I didn't know them then I I'm acquainted with them but when they came back from he was also that and what I remember is that they were sitting they were apparently Mushba influenced by the atmosphere in 770 that is an and he you know and he you shouldn't didn't pay attention to him. So there was some of the mentioned names before they went to the they were very very close to when they came back they didn't recognize it right and they would be sitting in the back and they would be during and talking and talking hated it very much when he gave a or or it was if you talk irritated it right and they were sitting in the back and talking and they and He didn't say anything at first but then there came a point then there came a point that you know he plots he got up and with tears in his eyes he he understood why they're right he he he he looked at them he addressed them he addressed them and he would tears his eyes he says what do you want from me how can you expect me to to the Reb like you when the Reb previous was my father. I mean I didn't know he was he cried mas but then then it didn't take half a minute he changed over right away he became firm and strong and he screamed at them he says but one thing I want to tell you no matter how much you think you're a Christian to this rebush to him 10 more times than you are I mean that was really that was strong. Very strong. That was you know. Right. Right. So, so um these letters that the Rebba answered you they were in detail or just like general and general wishes? No. One time was there were they were usually there were mols got it too but at the end it was he added some of personal things. Yeah right but let's say you let's if you wrote to him about a personal matter yeah he answered me too. Yeah he answered me too and he um yeah the very I remember the very first I think the very first two letters that I got. So he said that you should you should learn. So I'm sure if you continue to learn so you'll be so it sounds to me like the other the other that went to the didn't tell them to write to him every month. I don't know. I don't know. Probably why do you think he did he told you this? I don't know. Why do you think Well, what do you think? Maybe this is this, you know, because you have to learn. But you weren't a good a big learner at that time. Yeah, exactly. But really, but then I really went into it and I was the years I was inabad. I was fulfilled. Yeah. You completely removed from worldly matters. I I in those days I could never imagine that I would be working in the UN or the Knesset or or an editor in English of the Jewish press or even have to I've never in my I thought I would remain either as a Makia or or as a Mashia or whatever right in or whatever or remain remain in my world and and have my in in in learning in learning or or tasteless, you know, but I didn't you know I I would never think I would go out to the world. Right. Right. Right. Now, how one second before you say how many discourage how many letters do you have of the do you have any idea like 30 40? No, no, no. Take a look. If you every month you wrote to the reb 24 20 20 20 something. Yeah. You were saying something you were saying now. So yeah I was there and so how many years were you? Well from to so two years. Yeah. Yeah. From Yeah. So you were 18 when you finished right? I think a little 19 19. I was there during the six day war. Oh yeah. Yeah. So Schwarz was there. Yeah. Yeah. Schla came later. Yeah. And Brucein Casil Braswankin. I don't think so. What about the name Schwmer? Yosel Schwimmer. No because he was there in I guess it was after you. Yeah. He lives in B park today. He gives you he comes to Dio. Okay. Yeah. So, uh and uh you remember the Six Day War? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember it. Good. And the funny part about it is that you see in the Six Day War broke out in seven. Yeah. Here, I'm sorry. Year 1967. And two months before that, three months before that in I wrote to the Reb that I want to come back to America. Back to America. So the Reb said, "What?" You you knew before that there's going to be a war. No, no, no. Right. So I I wrote to the Reb that I want to go back and you know back to 77 learn something like everybody else. Yeah. So the Reb said to me that since he said speak it over. Yeah. Then the Reb added that since I think this letter is printed in this printed I think it's printed in inos