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Rabbi Avi Neuberger Shovavim Lecture - Shmiras Einayim in the Digital Age at Bais Medrash Ohr Chaim
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okay good evening
um so uh the topic is uh how to appear
here
for I in a digital age so
um this topic something I spoke about sh
the last couple of years but this
specific sh a digital age so I said how
do you prepare for such a speech you
obviously you have to prepare with uh
with with technology so uh my Microsoft
Word now somehow has something called
co-pilot which is the AI application and
you just thought Microsoft Word you
could put in whatever you want and
they'll write a speech for you so um so
I put in I said make a make a speech
about in the rabbi y y Jacobson style I
figured if I'm speaking sh this this is
the way to do it on the spot it came up
with for for very very disheartening I a
page in have Dasha about what he would
say um with three differentes quot says
where your thoughts are is is that where
you are this profound wisdom teaches us
that our sights direct our thoughts and
our thoughts shape our reality M right
away uh R why why Jacobson
D um but then but then I said listen has
to start with a joke so I I asked I the
make it give me a joke they have no idea
they thing was just turning turning
after two minutes it saids no jokes they
can't think joke you imagine e even AI
can think joke not a j it's not a joke
yeah it's a serious topic um okay so
last year we spoke about in the context
of of and
um that should be a different topic but
I just want to stress one inion from uh
from last year U cuz it a a different
angle came up over the course of this
year and I think it's very important I
was want I always try to stress this
idea um so
I I
guess let the secret out of the bag I'm
the Rob mishak magazine I'm on the rical
board of the of mishak Magazine For
Better or For Worse and um so I get to
read a lot of fascinating articles some
of them by me most boring ones by
everybody else and um there was a
fascinating article by a lady Allison
Joseph Allison Joseph is a she's a b and
she uh her her Z started out anyways
that she tries to sell yishai to the Fri
world and to the secular world to show
that it's a beautiful religion because
there the the way it's depicted in the
Press is very oppressive and very
backwards and very you who knows what uh
uh you know not not modern and and crazy
ideas and oppressive so she tries to
depict and she does a beautiful job of
depicting yish in a very positive manner
um from that her organization changed
into something called Project M where
there's people who are going off and
there was an
organization you can't say the Bas
matter an organization that helps people
who are cish become
fry organization and that's a a non for
profit that's what they do they help
them secularize and become part of the
gelt so she made an organization called
project mom which is a place where if
you're not if you don't want to be be
you I mean the liter may not be but
we're still Orthodox you know so so she
no she she helps that ex that become
still be sh M and see the beauty of yish
even though you don't want to be per
anyways but in that
article she says that almost every
person that she came across uh leaving
the the otd or people on the way off NE
had suffered from something that she
called um insecure attachment or
emotionally absent mother basically
which she M about is that there's a
somebody wrote a book about this some
secular writer wrote a book about this
that the people that go up to D are
people who did not have a warm and open
relationship with their mother and
therefore they uh whatever happened um
whatever happened to them whatever traa
they had was Amplified and exaggerated
by the fact that they didn't have a
mother that were close to and that's
then she's m about that and of course
the whole because it's as if you know
people the want blaming the mother and
she said I'm not blaming anybody I'm
just saying if that if you have that sh
it would work that's that was the whole
thing and it seems to was
yes what I want to just reiterate from
last year is that and I feel this very
strong and I always try to try to any
form like an open form like can say I
try to say it is that my herish is that
the the from a father perspective and
especially is very often much more in by
boys than by girls um social media might
be by girls than by boys but by but I
was maybe more by boys but the
protection the best protection you can
have for your kids is developing a very
vable relationship with with your sons
and with your children meaning that it's
not about loving your children anybody
who's normal loves his children you have
to be m not to love your child it's
about liking your child about enjoying
their presence about sharing with them
that like if you see hear a good joke so
who do you want to share with you want
to share with the guy in school you want
to share with with your friend no you
should want to share it with your kid
you have to make your relationship with
your kid as one of friendship one of
Vite one of acceptance and validity and
it's not about learning with your kid in
fact learning with your kid very often
undoes and ruins the relationship I
would think that the best part of is not
the learning is theing you want to learn
learn but sit with your kid how of do
you sit with your kid for an hour not
not to often and and very when fighting
with the kid all time it's like because
because it's very noisy and it's
distracting and it's
m it's not die just smooth with the kid
have a good time tell him the story The
the relationship the Ty will come from
Yesa that's that's that's their business
you we outsourced our
our and they do a very good job but what
is what they can't replace is the
relationship that you have with your
child so one get opportunity but I don't
mean specifically over I'm saying
finding just a relationship a open
relationship like a friendly open
relationship if you saw everybody has a
cute clip on their phone they want to
show it to the wife to the friend show
it to your kid every kid has a p a
perspective and there's nothing more
validating than having a real
relationship with your child I think I
may said L I'll say it again because
it's such a such a strong I once said
this over in another forum and a guy
told me that he grew up with a alter
europeia father and you know very uh
removed and you know the old European
style the way it was and um he said that
the most warm
reminiscent nostalgic feeling he had
when he thinks back to his child is was
one time he was sitting by by the by the
dining table and his father was crying
and his like know he's nervous crying
almost crying and his father showed him
I don't know what I'm going to do I lost
my job I don't know what I'm going to do
and he said that moment you think very
scary his father have a job what's going
to be he said so valid he felt so
validated by his father because his
father was sharing with him his own
personal vulnerability his old concern
he was talking like a friend like
somebody he cares about he wants to his
opinion that was very very powerful and
establishing the relationship between
the father and son and again so just
that's always um a very very strong that
she says that Al talking about
mothers mother I'm a father but I do
know as a father the most important
thing that somebody could possibly do is
establish a warm accepting friendly
friendly relationship with with your kid
that you want you like them you like
your child you like your son you like
your you want to spend time with them
that is the most powerful SME that can
any that can ever happen because all
this when in this digital era it's all
over the place it's constant and unless
it's coming from an eternal place of I'm
okay and I'm confident and I'm valid and
I'm then you won't have the power to you
the the strength of will to to push back
against all against everything that
Society is is selling you so I think
that's the first Al B the AL is that to
develop that very powerful relationship
with your child um okay now that's one
thing okay another thing I want to talk
about is that
um like again something I didn't speak
about in the P about how how uh the
digital era affects us in a negative way
is when it comes to daving
um so there's the balat the balat talks
about um I guess this is this is R Jon
without the without uh without co-pilot
no um he says that
sometimes people feel that they most
challenged when it comes to here and so
forth when it comes to daving they come
to DAV and then the come in their mind
he
says don't think about
them jumping head
have to be
happy and he says that the reason why
one when one is ding might come into his
mind is
because people are wrestling
together if one guy is wrestling you
with power then the opponents m matches
the opponent's uh effort
um so when you're trying to connect it's
like you you play basketball a guy
against doesn't try you can't try hard
you play basketball against a guy who's
trying hard then you'll try harder and
the same thing happens when when you're
trying to D you're trying to connect to
that's for what's and don't feel bad
about that means the very fact that
it's when you're trying to D is the
biggest r that the realizes that you're
about to do something very special
that's why he feels the need to throw
the in your mind but I just want to say
how that's particularly relevant in the
digital era like this um a famous G the
G says that at what point did Nas stop
when did we stop having
prophecy within K Isel at the beginning
of the second bias at the end of the
first bias beginning of second bias
that's when that's when the viim
stopped period That's when stopped he
said it's the same period when stopped a
famous that says that there was this
tremendous for
and felt that it was so overwhelmed they
had to they had to DAV that it to stop
and the same time stopped that's the
same time that the stopped
was so ra says
because because that happened that's why
also that's why they
were so I just want to give like a h to
all of this to to to this uh to these
the
B the bit of Nas and also the the um the
the the establishment of
of it's like this the r says that we
there somebody uh we somebody experience
Nas you don't see it if you look it's
not a physical thing you don't look
around and see Mal talking to you that's
not nas is so you don't smell it you
don't speak so where's we in a
person's existence is does a person see
he
says it's the of the imagination that's
where thei that's where talks to
you that's where a person feels uh uh
feels in model that's that's he feels in
through there so the question is
um second now
AAR when we look atar we think this is
the most bizarre strange thing ever How
Could You POS possibly make an and say
that
you you're my God you made you know that
you yourself fashioned this and now
you're believing that this thing that
you yourself made became your God it's
like bizarre so weird and and the tells
us that that that Masha came to one of
them in a dream and he said that if you
would have been there you would have
picked up your codes and your Co would
have run like crazy what's this does
make any sense we look at
as but obviously it was a it was
tremendous T that to do it so what does
it mean so they and they and they took
down the tar but let me ask you
something when it comes to when it comes
to advertising Madison Avenue so how
does Madison Avenue work they make free
associations and because of those
associations the Mind somehow tells you
that a certain product is K why because
if you have LeBron James drinking Pepsi
and everybody knows LeBron James is Su
successful guy and he's drinking Pepsi
you have to drink pep now you know
that's ridiculous there's no con there's
no connection at all like so why does it
work but they wouldn't pay him millions
of dollars to wear his sneakers or to
drink Psy if not for the fact that it
Mish works but how does it work doesn't
make any sense you know it doesn't make
any sense but it seems like that the way
the mind works is that it makes an
association that once you see a
successful person together with a
certain product you can't you can't
disassociate it and it's so SL that it
generates sales for they spend they
spend billions of dollars on on
advertisement these these things that
don't make any sense nevertheless work
there used to be an advertisement um way
back you can take
um Salem out of the country but you
can't take the country out of Salem
there was there was a cigarette called
men Salem you can't and and is because
they they had they had a picture of of a
guy smoking Menthol Salems in the
country so you could take Salem out of
the country but you can't take country
out of Salem and they're right because
if you saw a guy smoking Salem in the
country in your mind there's Association
and you can't disassociate it that's the
way we're hardwired there's Association
you know P dogs they they can't you
can't you can't disate it's automatic in
your brain I makes no sense so as tough
lock that's where it works it seems that
before I'm saying this from
he writes this in a book called the
antidote he says like this he says that
it seems that before
before minimized and took away the the
of imagination was so strong it was so
strong that a person could put deity
against godliness onto something that he
himself made ice muga yeah M so it's no
different than than than advertising the
the of mad was so strong the mad
imagination was so strong that a person
could project deity
onto and therefore when they when had to
take that away
because the same effect also took away n
because also is in imagination so ifite
that you we don't have the imagination
with
that there wouldn't
be they couldn't be that's way was a TI
for the the lesson the lesser of
imagination took away both things it
took
away so that's
why had to
establish because like the talks about
daving is nothing more or primarily
than you have to before you you sit down
to DAV you have to realize you have to
imagine you have to use a imagination
I'm talking today
it's an imagination that's true but you
have to you're holding a phone and it's
the first time somebody ever saw
somebody talking on their cell phone
he's talking to a piece of plastic
what's he talking to there's there's
nothing attached there no wire even
right but El you hear a voice on the
other side so before you sit down to DAV
you have to imagine that I'm talking to
somebody who is listening to me I'm
talking to
the says this when when that you have to
before you die you have to think
you have to imagine that you're talking
to your friend because you are you're
talking to somebody who cares about you
you have to put that into your
brain he used to make he made up a song
from those World from those words of
when he go to D
about made a song out of it some
song but but this idea that that before
you D you have to imagine in your mind
that uh that that you
and and since imagination was much more
minimized and diminished after came
around there had to be to help you out
you couldn't we couldn't D without
without because we didn't have that
anymore because because it was
minimiz interesting observation that's
it's not that are better davers than
than than than the ash like had once I
went into one of these and he crossed
his leg by daving you know he just he
cross the leg was sing in the Square
there and one of the out came over what
do you thinking you in a restaurant over
there like how me to cross your leg by D
there a certain they understand what it
means so it reminds me of a joke I once
heard from Yer y Miller said that uh
that um he that it was ay fellow who
went to to be and he climbs up the
climbs four steps and he opens up to
and whatever and
and
kiss and he starts backing down the
steps and he trips and he falls down and
he gets up and he
says if you don't want you don't want
don't push me down the stairs so but it
brings out the point that there's a
certain
natural uh
that's being manifest by by and that's
clearly true that that you know that
it's a part of the Arab culture that
that you know the is stronger that's why
they say you can't negotiate with them
because and is less scientific there
anyway but the the is very essential for
Ding and that because we have can back
to to technology technology makes doing
very very difficult because we used to
it it it requires you have to slow down
you have to stop you have to give it a
minute to calm your mind down and think
about you're talking to
the and slowly and then you could talk
to but the thing with technology is that
with nothing to do with with prite the
thing with technology is that it's
constantly giving you the new hit the
new endorphins are being triggered
because there's always something curious
to click on clickbait and there's always
something else to keep you because
something looks weird something paid
whatever out brain whatever they call it
you know some there's always something
else to keep you excited and motivated
and and and and and curious so but and
obviously it's it's it's a it's a mile
wide and an inch deep but Lisa there it
with there uh we're training ourselves
and particularly people who grew up in
the digital era not to have the
that's necessary that that you're not
going to get an immediate it takes a
while you have to slow down and you have
to calm your brain and you're not we're
not looking for bang bang bang bang hit
we're talking about a slow thing you
know and ding therefore has become very
very difficult because in people in the
digital
age a Kaplan years ago this is before
you know before the in the Jewish obser
I remember I read this somewhere he says
that daving is always
it's difficult even it's always it's
called for a reason he gives an and I
think it's that's that say over he says
now it's hard to imply to to to apply it
but if you do it works to a degree you
could apply it and that is that he says
the
first we know that each that for each
single word if you by one word the whole
the whole is is bottle um so
so so he says like this he says you know
he was a big Bucky in meditation he
says each word for seven
seconds and think about that word like a
mantra like for seven seconds that's
seven second a long time but he says you
and you can try it if you
stay on each word for seven seconds then
your mind will calm down and the rest of
will just go like because once you quiet
all the noise and all the hyper uh hyper
stimulation that's in your brain and you
just on one
word and so forth you go very slowly
then it calms everything down then D get
half d goes much easier that's I'm just
saying there another another aspect that
that how how how digital how the digital
world has affected us negatively and
there's something that we have to think
about that it's making us Hy
stimulated and we're not able to on what
we should be on it also distracts us
from giving our attention to our
children obviously when you when
everybody's on the phone you know I mean
it's it's a cliche you go you go to a
restaurant you see couples on the phone
they might as well not go out all
together you know it's a cliche the the
degree of of distraction that that it's
that it creates in our lives is
is
um okay well another another Kish that
in the digital era that's the problem
and that is that
um clock um
that the AI so I
start speaking about you know that that
you plug something the AI and the second
something comes
out it's it's astonishing what AI could
do
it's okay I I had a year ago when that
was like I was first first hit the fan
um I um I made a
and um and my son who like who was a
little bit
more knowledgeable of of what was going
on world of technology he plugged into
AI into one of these chat things write a
poem about this was a About a Boy from
Lakewood who uh who got married to a
girl from M and she finds out that her
and he finds out that his fa with Tor so
that was that now I have now in a second
it pumped this out now besid being very
funny but it's a it just show you like
what we're dealing with listen to
this oh okay in lakewood's realm aish
guy with stead foot steps had W to by
his days immersed in t a quest for
knowledge endlessly a s after appeared
from M's land the GU revered but on the
day they both did wed a twist of fate a
tail widespread he learned Hisar his
father-in-law what strings towards quite
a flaw with wide eyes he pondered
confused how could it be he stood beused
aish man from head to toe with strings
his in Lake with hallowed holds they SCA
tradition strict they set them off and
inner struggle Souls debate he s he s an
answer tried to relate to his rebi he
made his plea explaining explaining this
puzzling mystery is it permissible he
sought to know in lakewood's Embrace
could this group truth grow the Reby
Ponder deep in thought a moment silence
lesson sought then with the shuck he
looked up by dear student I shall not
deny though L's ways Traditions Grand
let humor guide expand the land for in
this twist a lesson lies to seek Harmony
Truth under lies unite the Realms ofid
and M with love and laughter let's
decree the the Springs of t let them
stay an emblem of Union Come What May
for in diversity blessing sprout a
colorful tapestry there's no doubt so
laugh their students Embrace this change
this chance let joy and unity forever
dance and lakewood's realm a lesson
shared the ties That Bind when laughters
dared for when two War Worlds Collide
with Glee Traditions Blends and souls
Run
free in one second to produce this thing
but the but I want to point something
out not only did it what humor is it
that in Lakewood it's not normal to wear
and that he's going to I the question
was simply WR a poem about a guy from
lak who with
it it that that that that that it's
weird to in Lakewood and that the guy's
going to be uncomfortable with it and
that the way to get out of it was to
speak to his rebi and that his rebi
should it's a stupid machine like it's
it's AUM like how did this how did this
happen so and like if you would have
said two years ago before AI came out
like what's what makes a human into a
human what makes human to a human is his
creativity his creativity his capacity
of
saying but
is not that way I I I I I I went through
this a little bit the the scientists who
made it have no idea how this happened
they all they did there was it just next
word technology that that like know like
when you say when you type in your phone
I'm going to be home and then it suggest
late because that's a normal thing that
the word home I'm going to be home the
next word is late that makes sense so
they they put they they they plugged a
lot of information in and they gave it
like rewards K that if it gets to the
answer F faster than it's good for the
machine somehow whatever means it gets
better
connections and but then it figured out
like not just the next word the next
whole inion like the whole topic it it's
like thinking like and then you have to
think so what's between between being a
person and being and being and being
machine like it it it it it raises very
existential questions about what's
what's this digital interacting with the
digital world has made us wonder what's
what's it meant to be a mench like
what's what's the point of saying a I'm
I'm going to sit down and write a poem
when when when when when the machine
could do it better than me a million
times faster like it's very it's very
disturbing I mean it's it's it's cute
when you see it the first time but can
you imagine people who grow up at this
and and realize that whatever they could
do a machine could do a million times
better is very disheartening it's very
disheartening and and um and it's scary
so like you have to like now think about
like what does it mean to be a mench and
what does it mean to be a and why we
here for because like like what's thees
like what could we do that a machine
can't
do so obviously the one thing is empathy
I imagine that a few that and they might
be able
to talk machine can talk in empathetic
language but they can't really feel
empathy maybe I hope and but but but I
think but I think the main thing is and
this and and and and it's scary but it
really I think what it comes down to is
that we do a lot of what we do we do we
do it because it's and it's we'll learn
come with
you know a sense of fulfillment and you
know eventually we'll come to
but we're here for a reason we're here
to
be
through and and the only way the only
way we could do that and and to grow as
people and to listen to and
the cre the Creator should be similar to
that which you created and we have to do
things and because of this technology we
have to get to earlier because the fal
motivations are falling away the fal
motivations of of feeling good about
myself those are going to fall away
quicker because of the fact that a
machine could do it better than you so
it's it's for us to do things much more
because the the of satisfaction are
becoming under assault let's say it that
way it's become we have to work on being
better to be better
hidden because the of feeling Gish and
feeling satisfied and those things you
know those things are falling away so
like what what can make you feel
satisfied the real stuff
sh has to be something that more focused
in our mind because the because the has
taken a big hit with this Ai and and
it's a problem it's like something that
we have to we have to deal with um okay
I have another couple of minutes I just
want to
um um talk about the fact that Lisa when
it comes to in when it comes to of
technology and it come
to we we're going to fail it's you know
it's we're doomed to failure this this
whole Su we're doomed to failure and
it's it's not
otherwise because there's nobody in CL
Isel from top to bottom that's not going
to struggle with this from the most he
to the most lowest person can't say well
I'm top of the he I'm done with it he'll
struggle with it and person at the
bottom of the Heap can't say listen I
failed so many times so I'm done I'm
throwing the towel I'm
done you have to fight from beginning to
end and it's something that all all of
CH all has to fight with from from
whatever my you're
on but the and that's like the the
says is that usually you know when when
you're looking when you're going for a
race you're trying to get to the end
line not when it
comes you're not going to get there's no
end line you're never you're never
catching up to you're never going to get
to the end line there's no it's a it's a
constantly when it
comes it's something that will never end
it's a it's
a but the struggle itself has
value
with brings from uh
from um and the story is like this that
he was a man sitting in the back of a b
Mar somewhere and U the r was was
sitting in the Sho and some some B comes
running into the Sho and he's besides
himself he he's crying he doesn't know
what to do he said the what's going on
what's going on with you and he says
that um what happened was last Friday I
was I was uh away you know doing some
sort of work and I was I was trying to
get home for shabas and then my the
wheels of my of my uh wagon got stuck
and I had to unstick it and then
afterwards uh and and I got stuck and
then afterward something else happened
the horse broke its leg and then it got
money and this and that and by the time
and I lost of the time and I by the time
I came home I didn't and I came home I
was I didn't realize that that that that
I
I and he beside he's crying I know what
to do rabbit tell me what to do for
kapara so the so so the r says don't
worry about it you made a mistake people
make
mistakes the sh needs candles there's no
lights they candles donate for next
Friday night you'll donate the candles
and uh that'll be a kapar
so I mean you know pretty bad you know
so okay he just sits there quietly and
the guy next Friday he brings he he
brings the the candles good he's sitting
there again sometime during the week we
and this guy comes running it again to
the re not what happened last Friday
night I I donated all the cand to the sh
and before they got a chance to do
anything a door came and ripped all the
candles away and the whole had to D in
in the in the dark because because it
didn't work that the candles the candles
got taken away and doesn't want my TR he
doesn't want me he's not interested in
me I'm done so the said no like these
things happen sometimes the dog the dog
likes the the the the candles
calm down it's fine just do it again
bring the candle the second time and
you'll be and and and'll be fine the
second time he he brings the candles and
again you can imagine something he put
the candles out and somehow there was
something wrong with the with the
candles Friday night just they melted
down in one second they were down to
nothing the whole had to dive in the
dark again and this guy said this is the
abish doesn't want my uh that doesn't
want my chis crying and and and again
the says no
don't don't worry about it and
back you know they made the guys of
anyways and um and he said just do it a
third time of course you can imagine the
third time again it didn't work out that
as soon as the guy lights the candles
Friday night a big wind comes a huge
wind comes and blows all the candle out
again to D quietly at this point the
says you know what uh I guess I don't
know something is going on here maybe go
to the balem to to to to to to see uh to
see what the story is um okay so the guy
go to the next town over to to to to
visit the BM and B said no you the r is
right don't worry about
it don't worry it's fine but there was a
there was a Yer man sitting in the back
of the shore the whole time this they
were saying every time you ran in I want
to speak to that guy to the guy sing in
the back so he gets a message that b
wants to see him that guy has to go so
on so on the next the next and it was
Friday so he he he he gets he leaves
early in the morning he wants to get to
the
and would don't you know on the way
there's car well that car his his horse
breaks down and uh and then he got stuck
in mud and it's raining and it's pouring
and it's whatever everything one thing
after another and
Mish not but he goes crazy running
through the many just just in time by
the time he get to B's house he was
freezing and cold it was raining and was
he knocks on the door and B invites him
in and he says
and tells him okay take down sit down
calm down you know and he
said do do you how you doing he said I
you know but I'm okay he said but what
how do you feel when when
you he said the problem with you is that
you never realized you never felt what a
real who does have on his on his a
really feel that deep horrible feel
feeling cuz you did a various and you're
struggling and and that deep feeling you
never felt
that you never felt that type of karata
and now you felt it now when you came to
me you felt it you should realize you
you can never underestimate the of never
underestimate that and and that's all
you needed there wasn't the the the box
of waxes were perfectly fine it's the
the herish of feeling bad for what
happened that's enough for to
that's what wants and when it comes to
something like this where the when it
comes
to where very often we'll fail and we'll
fail again and we fail a third time and
very often the way that it most manifest
itself in when we fail is that we can't
D you know that's for sure I'm after
after after all of this after all these
struggles it's a mistake it's a
mistake understands that we're going to
struggle and we and he can't put us here
and we know he knows that we're humans
and we're and we're flesh and blood and
we're and and we're drawn to carnal
things that's the way it is but the
point
is when we talk out to keep on
struggling and keep on fighting and
that's the ultimate that's what that's
what it's all about it's just about the
strugg it's about the fight and if you
talk to never give up the fight always
fight further and
uh should take our
as a as
a
and and