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Q&A: The Right Therapist, Married for the Kids, Influencing Difficulties - Rabbi Daniel Schonbuch
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welcome to marriage matters my name is
rabbi Daniel shun Bock I'm a licensed
Marriage and Family Therapist based here
in New York and around the world via
Skype each week we try to answer your
questions that come from readers all
around the world that want to learn more
of that marriage about relationships and
family therapy this next letter comes
from a reader who made aliyah she now
lives in Israel she's married with
children she's having a difficult
marriage had tried therapy once or twice
but to no avail
and she wants to know what she should do
next dear rabbi Shawn buck I currently
live in Israel with my husband and six
children we are married for almost 11
years now we have had a lot of ups and
downs but since we Italia five years ago
our marriage has been deteriorating our
status right now is that we are together
for the kids my husband does not want to
seek help anymore and I'm willing to
keep trying because I long for good and
healthy relationship we have gone for
professional help once for very short
but my husband was not ready to invest
what do you suggest I do
please help dear viewer I'm so sorry to
hear that you've been going through a
hard time I can just imagine how much
energy you put into making alia going to
live in Eric's Israel but still having a
hard time in your relationship with your
husband some of the points that you
mentioned I like to explore with you
number one is is it possible that the
therapists that you saw wasn't the right
therapist you mentioned your letter that
your husband only went to that therapist
perhaps one time that's kind of a alarm
kind of went off in my mind because
perhaps the therapist wasn't the right
therapist for you or for your husband
and that's very possible it's kind of
like a up you know just because you
set up in a off doesn't mean it
necessarily works sometimes you have to
go in several seducin before you find
your Bashar doozy book so I would
suggest
first of all that you do some research
and look for another therapist now this
is a bit tricky you know the expression
three-strikes-you're-out so we don't
want you to go to just another therapist
and make a big mistake rather I would
suggest that you go yourself the first
time explain the situation to the
therapist and see if it's the right
match try to figure out the person's
presentation their emotions their
mannerisms your level of comfort his or
her level of understanding of
relationships in your marriage and I
think after one or maybe two sessions
you'll begin to see if this is the right
person for you and I've seen it so many
times over so many years a couple could
go do it even good marriage therapist
but for some reason it's not exactly the
right match also it depends on the
gender of the therapist some people need
to see a woman therapist and some people
need to see a male therapist it all
depends on various different
psychodynamics which are too difficult
to enumerate tonight but just to inform
you that it's possible that the
therapist that you saw reminded your
husband of a difficult parent perhaps
where there was a mother or father
perhaps that your husband is projecting
his problems from his childhood on the
therapist and isn't comfortable with the
therapist so I would not give up hope
what's really important here is to
continue the therapy and I would suggest
you look around choose one and then see
what happens the other part of your
letter is extremely important as well
you mentioned that you have burkas m6
beautiful children and that you wouldn't
want to break up your marriage because
so much will be lost if you do so this
is a very very important question you
didn't tell me in the letter what you're
really experiencing and I've dealt with
many hundreds of couples that have
similar situations and I try to revise
them to make very careful steps to
evaluate what they're really going
through in their life but let's start
with one of the most important parts of
this I have to know more
is your husband abusive does he have
addiction
is he does he have a tremendous temper
in the home is he extremely controlling
these are very very important questions
because that will help me as a therapist
and other therapists understand whether
that marriage is worth continuing if
he's abusive that has serious addiction
or serious issues that may be highly
disturbing to the children and one has
to evaluate very very carefully if
you're putting another generation of
little innocent children in the line of
a lot of dysfunction but that's not for
me to decide that's something you have
to do a lot of careful research about
but if he's not in that category of a
very dysfunctional abusive individual
then one has to look more carefully at
trying to keep the family together for
as long as possible as long as you don't
feel you're being abused in the
relationship and that means working to
find some compromises in this
relationship pushing yourself just a
little bit further because it will make
a very very big difference in these
children's lives whether the parents are
married or divorced and if there's a
possibility to keep this marriage
together I suggest you try to do the
best that of course will include gone
for therapy but it may also include
reading books about marriage and
relationships so therefore I suggest you
go to the Jewish bookstore and find some
books that of authors that you trust
good from authors from psychologists
that have good advice on how to have a
good marriage and how to have a good
relationship and I would suggest you try
to do anything you can whether it's in
reading or in workshops or in therapy to
try to make this relationship work that
may mean improving your communication
skills with one another it may also mean
spending more quality time with your
spouse and taking some small vacations
from your children if that's financially
possible it may also mean going out a
little more frequently there is a great
expression instead of going on a
vacation go on a staycation meaning
instead of spending just a lot of money
to go in fancy and expensive trips just
go away for one night to littell go for
a trip to another city clear your heads
see by doing so if you can gain a little
more
active on your relationship I find
sometimes just sending people away for a
little bit of a time and having fun
together does wonders for the
relationship and then when you go back
into the home a person as a new fresh
attitude is able to look at things from
a different perspective
and I'm hoping this may help your
relationship as well and the other thing
you mentioned was that your marriage had
deteriorated since you made aliyah this
is of course a very very big question
that I believe numerous people
experience when they move to Israel
because it truth is it's hard on the
children and it can be hard on your
family as well
there are many cultural changes you've
perhaps went through you may also be
experiencing lack of proper finances in
Israel many people find it hard when
they left their jobs abroad and came to
live in Israel and so therefore it's
possible that the cultural changes and
the financial stress you're going under
is making your marriage that much more
difficult if that's true then you have
to have an honest discussion with your
husband if he's the breadwinner in the
house to really empathize with him and
talk to him about what he's going
through at work perhaps the change in
language was difficult for him perhaps
you didn't find the same type of quality
employment he had living outside of
Israel than he has in Israel but it's
often true that many men will experience
depression anxiety or sadness from
having a very hard time at work they
kind of feel crushed by their employer
or crushed by their financial
environment or social environment and
therefore coming back to the house at
night in a very difficult mood so if
that's true then one has to explore that
especially with your husband to find out
if he's really suffering financially or
professionally and he's bring that home
and banging that back to the home at
night and the other question for you as
well to see if you can limit some of
your expectations perhaps you yourself
are not used to living on the standard
that you're living now perhaps outside
of Israel lived an IR standard perhaps
you're not living on that same stands as
well today if that's true perhaps if you
could change your attitude
towards your expectations but it's
important to in life maybe even
compromise a little more than you
expected that may also contribute your
husband feeling better and improving
your marriage as well welcome to this
new series of Vita Brut called marriage
matters my name is rabbi daniel shomba
and I'm a licensed Marriage and Family
Therapist based in New York and around
the world via Skype on this important
series I will be answering your
questions you have about marriage
relationships dating parenting and about
any issue during the family
relationships but more than what I have
to say I want to hear what you have to
say so please email to this address and
sending your questions and I'll try to
answer as many questions on this Michel