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PURIM ON FRIDAY: COMBINING BOTH SEUDAS PURIM AND SEUDAS SHABBOS - HOW TO DO IT?
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Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner on Purim at Bais Medrash Ohr Chaim
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falls out on a Friday something that's
unique does not happen often at all
though
in pum to be on a Friday is pretty often
but for us out of your dollar to be on a
Friday it's not often it did happen four
years ago the time before was I think 13
years ago before that the next time perm
is going to fall on a Friday is going to
be in 20 years 2045
we should
be I spoke earlier this morning what's
the most time to make a suda P when it's
Friday on a regular year the ra says the
normal is he making in the afternoon and
he says don't start right before the
night and the afterm that's a regular
year a year that it's Friday chabas we
spoke about it
the says to really start
before the says to start before serus is
before 404 that's a separate discussion
it's available on the sh's website and T
anytime that's not we're talking about
today what we're going to speak
about is the that's brought in
thees what are we talking about before
we're going to go through the steps of
pades where do pades come in it's Nea
anytime you middle of a suda Friday
afternoon and shabas comes but it's yet
relevant
now is
Friday to make a Friday and if you
didn't get a chance to make the Su in
the morning you make it in the afternoon
and if you didn't get a chance to start
you SU
at 4:00 you eat it at 5:00 and if you
start and if you didn't start your sua
at 5:00 or at 6:00 at 6:30 you have to
have the suda however it's important to
know like this the is that when you have
a suda
Friday comes shabas you can no longer
eat it's not like shal that when you
start shalas before the you can eat shal
way into if you didn't
wash have but for KES it's not like that
comes this you're not let to eat anymore
and that's the same thing P also
regardless of when you started the suda
when the is to eat the suda the fact is
you started eating suda and you're
holding now by the of chabas you are no
longer allowed to eat you're no longer
allowed to eat so what do you do one
option would be is you bench you bench
you finish the
suda you go go
to that's one option but then there's
another option that the gor
sayses that
brings it's a short sh I don't want to
go through the whole gamorra but when
the gamorra speaks about it before the
but before when the back and forth the
says so even though
thees has nothing to do with P has
nothing to do it's any Friday afternoon
comes the sud shabas you're not let to
eat anymore either you can bench or the
gar says however interesting the gar
does bring before the PK fine
when do you have to stop eating theas is
in shabas you have to stop eating by the
or or if you shabas which
means lition 644 is a few minutes after
7 by around 7ish you have to stop eating
if somebody's 630 stands up in middle of
the Su and he says I'm Mak shabas you
Mak shabas he has
she's not let to eat anymore or the
ladies that are M and
with by not let eat anymore
so what is the definition
pus pus MAA MAA is a tablecloth pus MAA
we you pus MAA tablecloth we the pus in
the PO your
pus the same like every shabas you put
on a on the that's the
p p however there are that
say means a tablecloth over the whole
entire table we'll soon see the reason
of the differences why but the p is pyus
MAA if you're going to be next week
Friday afternoon and you're going to
want to do Pusa the P Pusa means you put
your Kal over the
kala why do you have to be pus MAA and
then we'll see to understand the
difference of P why do you have to be
pus so on a regular
shabas these two reasons why we have
a why
either so the same is also the the same
is also the cover the mon came had a
cover on the top on the bottom out
Theon and another reason this reason is
actually brought first is not to be
the really you're supposed to be washing
eating the first comes first however you
need to make KES you need to make KES to
be able to eat the so you cover the
maybe let's say you're Mak
KES so then the reason of the you should
still put a but the reason of you don't
have but that's that's not that's in
general so every shabas you cover so
these two reasons
that you cover so then you cover the
also and you stop now middle you're
stopping so you're going to make KES so
you you cover either because you need
that even on a p ER of shabas and the
same is also as we soon see because you
you're going to the wine and not using
the these a third
reason there's a third reason one second
one second there a third reason T brings
for every shabas a third reason T says
the reason why we cover the Kal is to
show that this suda that we're going to
have now isover chabas just not just a
regular supper it's a cover chabas so
three reasons why you cover the Kal
every single chabas let's now go now to
see when we say pus MAA Pusa before
mades pus MAA what do you mean pus MAA
out the man so it's the same it's you
have that out the
reason we'll see a little bit more about
it cuz could you don't even make that
maybe is not applicable we'll get to
that but that's the reason to show that
it Su the
shabas you have to cover you have to
cover to show your middle of a bigm sud
and you want to continue now into shabas
to show that wait a second this sh this
sud is now a shabas suda you have to
cover over the Kala
says why every shabas do you cover to
show that it's a that it's a shabas sud
because in the olden days they used to
bring in the table after KES this is the
shabas now it's big tables we don't do
it so you cover it
over and Andes is that even just
covering the is
enough if you're in middle of a whole
big PM suda he a sad baby you have to
cover the whole entire table
but just to make it clear very
clear I just gave a little background
because is a she me to cover the whole
table to show that when you're going to
open up the tablecloth now we're having
a sh so means you cover over the for all
the different reasons you cover over the
that's good so far but getting to in a
minute very good step by step another
few more minutes just clear if
somebody's going to be p to know what to
do number one you cover the we said
reasons be cover
thees very clear how does The KES look a
regular shabes The KES
is and
then this is
all if you're in middle of a suda and
you drank wine so you already made ourin
you don't make another our clear so you
you're holding now B that shabas came
it's 7:00 you take your you cover over
the you fill up the
be but you don't makeen you don't makeen
because you're ready you middle of you
drank if you drank wine if you drank
wine you don't make a Goin if you didn't
drink wine you make our
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goin good you a pus MAA and you makadesh
she made KES but now now we have to go
to the shabas sud so you have to eat a k
first of all so it should be
KES so make sure if you're being pades
and you had a whole sud after
KES doesn't just mean that you make KES
then after you have to have you have to
eat eating shabas means at least
a first of all you have to have a k
so it should
be you also need
a because that it should be you ate
earlier was for you have to eat a
k so you and you made KES now you're GNA
have Kal do you make on the
Kal oh you made ready you made already
so this you shouldn't have to make very
good made middle your you
made brings two one side is not to make
a just like you don't make our goofin
you don't make our already made the
other side is yes to make our why should
you
make because when KES comes 7:00 when
shabas comes you shabas you can no
longer eat you're not let it eat you're
not let it eat if you're not let it eat
that's a you have to make a
very good beautiful the same the is for
the there is
no cuz the second that you not eat
anymore you go straight to
KES you can't eat yet you have to first
make KES and then go to but KES the wine
there's no stop you have wine you fill
up the back you're continuing in the
wine you don't make if you drank wine
before
it's not
complicated you don't make so so far so
good it's pretty
simple you have to stop asab you cover
over the you make KES
not brings it you don't
make you asked very good do you need do
you need
says he
need says it depends if you have to
make if you have to make so you're
making but if you don't have to make you
still have to eat a but you don't have
to make you
don't we is the play if you don't need
make you have to eat there's in eating
if you're
making we don't
make so but you still
need if you want you can
have even if you're not
making say you don't need it could be
the
we're going to get to that also very
good the other brief few minutes and
we're done
bem before my we're holding first the
middle the suda Tak we're going to get
the my so you ate the suda good whatever
your regular shambas Su is as much as
you could
eat you're holding now by the end of the
Su the
benching
in what do you say do you
say
both says you
say he doesn't say that you don't say
it's hard to say that you don't say
because if you forget R you have to
bench over so it's not say that you
don't say but the says you
say the says you say both he say spells
it out clearly if you're going
to you say both
in Bening
and however a long list
of a lot
of among many others say you do not say
both you don't
say now I'm not going to go into it now
but you could all ask me is it the same
thing as shab going into this coming
is a
few it's for a separate discussion but
should be the same thing it's a little
bit different maybe it's it's a
different we're not going to go into
clearly by benching the is when you
bench you do not
say if you don't say it if you saying
because the that say that you say it be
then if you don't say it cuz it's heart
of the saer
so so then you don't say it what it's
not a problem saying
it to maybe should
say now we so good so it was very clear
you you you ate you're holding
byes no you didn't make you ate sud you
benched Pas you only say
asked very good so what's with what
happened with over here obviously goes
without saying before the sud because
you're going straight
into earlier what's about so theas is in
the middle of the sud you you allow to
continue this sud but you
justes nothing with that's the that's
the however in in Z when he explains how
you do he says he
says the expands on it a bit more the
says
that every sud is supposed to come
after Friday
night in the
morning is also a lot of people are to E
after is supposed to come after even
this
year and we eat the sud there a lot that
are Mo to eat pis to
be after
the okay
that's you should have a of earlier you
should have a m of
earlier earlier the say before p before
you continue to sud the says at
least not just not just to make Kish
before you make Kish even if you're
going
toab you should say you should say
shabas
at
what we'll get there in a minute that if
you take a big break you lose a certain
mile of P we'll get to that m in a half
a minute
one thing is important to note that if
you
P you have you always have to be careful
when porm goes into shabas to make sure
to empty your pockets with M but if you
have the suda whatever time you're going
to have it at 11:00 at 2:00 at 3:00 you
finish the suda you clean up you prepare
for shabas the person has to be very on
top of it and you're still eating the
perm and you're drinking also it doesn't
say that a person you know be even
shabas the person has to really be very
organized going from the perm into
shabas
that's and with this I
conclude so we have over
here pretty
clear you want to
beades this is what you do it's pretty
clear my maybe is a little bit inant
because they have to D
earlier should you be PES yes or no
asked she P so is what you do to be P
but should one be P mad or not I just
want to bring out one more Point what I
started in the
beginning there's no Shila that the PM
is a on Friday and even if it's an hour
before shabas this has nothing to do
with pus MAA you didn't get a chance to
eat the P suda till 6 o' Friday
afternoon you sit down you eat the Suda
you're middle sud you could continue
into
shabas so is like this in
pus says that was Dominic and says these
many places that are like that not only
many places are to say that now
that is a hard thing to say because the
say
however however before you go and do it
you should just know the maril says the
maril says
that
says which means you should try to eat
the Su the
early because he's a lot
of L says like this
this is the previous year spoke about
time to make the
sud if you make the suda earlier you
don't have to really go into pus MAA
it's an exciting thing it's not going to
happen for 20 years when else is's a pus
MAA I hear but you don't have to get
involved you can learn you can know
about it you don't have to get involved
in being Pusa but one thing I do want to
say is these are s also being p and with
this I
conclude the says what's the mile of pus
MAA you see if you're going to eat a
suda you're going to bench and then you
have to eat another suda it's not only
it's not and it's very hard you just
finished eating and eat another suda
it's
hardus the idea ofus is you're still
eating you stop and you make Kish which
means you don't go out for you you make
kiddish and you continue eating then you
still have the appetite to continue
eating so I'm just saying that
Mal if a person's eating it turns out
that sud shabas was 6:00 in the sud per
was 6:00 in the afternoon and now it's
you know just about shabas that will be
able to
eat
however even if a person ends up eating
the sud at 4 5 6 o' and he benches and
he's not going to be Pirus MAA you don't
have to eat the sud right away Friday
night the Mish says
clearly if
you're supposed to come at the shabas
oven but if you're not you can't eat the
sud yet so comes Friday night you go out
you go to to sh to DAV might even be a
long cab of shabas you come back you're
not ready you'll eat to sud in two three
hours have a wonderful shabas